Re: Debian on a VERY OLD hardware?

2025-05-09 Thread gene heskett
On 5/9/25 22:55, Stefan Monnier wrote: the entire argument about keeping antique hardware in operation on ecological grounds makes no sense except in a hypothetical world where only two machines exist. Clearly, there's a limit beyond which it doesn't make any sense any more, but it usually makes

Re: Debian on a VERY OLD hardware?

2025-05-09 Thread Stefan Monnier
> What's the "embedded" CO2 usage of a nuclear reactor, I wonder. And don't forget the energy that will be needed to dismantle it! Stefan

Re: Debian on a VERY OLD hardware?

2025-05-09 Thread Stefan Monnier
> * If a new machine is genuinely more efficient (and we keep being >told that they are!), The capacity of laptop batteries has been stable around 50-100Wh for decades, so the detailed and concrete data about potential improvement in efficiency is readily available in the form measurement of

Re: Debian on a VERY OLD hardware?

2025-05-09 Thread Stefan Monnier
> installing any even remotely current release of Debian (or any other > kind of *nix) on hardware over a decade old probably doesn't have much > practical benefit, and is more of an exercise in seeing > what's possible. Hmm... FWIW, here are the computers I use on a regular basis: - Thinkpad X30

Re: Debian on a VERY OLD hardware?

2025-05-09 Thread Stefan Monnier
> the entire argument about keeping antique hardware in operation on > ecological grounds makes no sense except in a hypothetical world where > only two machines exist. Clearly, there's a limit beyond which it doesn't make any sense any more, but it usually makes sense to keep operating old electr

Re: Debian on a VERY OLD hardware?

2025-05-09 Thread Oliver Schode
On Fri, 9 May 2025 16:43:45 - (UTC) Greg wrote: > > What's the "embedded" CO2 usage of a nuclear reactor, I wonder. > Big power plants are obviously great consumers of power themselves, some of the greatest probably. More notoriously, they'll usually need lots of power to power up, nothing

Re: speedtest ok from site, fails on command line

2025-05-09 Thread The Wanderer
On 2025-05-09 at 16:26, Roger Price wrote: > On Fri, 9 May 2025, The Wanderer wrote: > >>> So it looks as if this will be fixed in Debian 13. Roger >> >> What leads you to that conclusion? >> >> My reading of the bug report I referenced is that the issue is that >> the server is rejecting conn

Re: speedtest ok from site, fails on command line

2025-05-09 Thread Roger Price
On Fri, 9 May 2025, The Wanderer wrote: > > So it looks as if this will be fixed in Debian 13. Roger > > What leads you to that conclusion? > > My reading of the bug report I referenced is that the issue is that the > server is rejecting connections because it's receiving too many > connections

Re: speedtest ok from site, fails on command line

2025-05-09 Thread The Wanderer
On 2025-05-09 at 13:32, Roger Price wrote: > On Fri, 9 May 2025, The Wanderer wrote: > >> This looks like bug #1024830. > > On Fri, 9 May 2025, Kent West wrote: > >> westk@westkent:~$ speedtest > >> Download: 496.67 Mbit/s >> VERSION_CODENAME=trixie > > So it looks as if this will be fixed in

Re: Mouse weirdness

2025-05-09 Thread rhkramer
Thanks for the update on the solution -- it could help someone else in the future. (PS: Sorry about your fall and broken shoulder blades -- I hope they heal completely and soon.) On Thursday, May 08, 2025 04:22:08 PM Van Snyder wrote: > When I reached for that mouse, my forearm was depressesing

Re: Weird keyboard issues with Firefox in KDE6 Plasma Wayland

2025-05-09 Thread Bernhard Schmidt
Bernhard Schmidt wrote: Hi, > I have a very weird issue I can't quite trace, and I have no idea where to > start looking. Maybe someone has a decent hint where to start debugging. It > looks like some keyboard handling issues in Wayland apps. [...] > I tried to pinpoint issues and came up em

Re: speedtest ok from site, fails on command line

2025-05-09 Thread john doe
On 5/9/25 17:57, Roger Price wrote: If I visit speedtest.net and click on "Go", I get 356Mbps download, and 19Mbps upload with multiconnection via Starlink and a server in Paris. But when I load Debian 12 package speedtest-cli I get rprice@maria ~ speedtest Retrieving speedtest.net configur

Re: speedtest ok from site, fails on command line

2025-05-09 Thread Roger Price
On Fri, 9 May 2025, The Wanderer wrote: > This looks like bug #1024830. On Fri, 9 May 2025, Kent West wrote: > westk@westkent:~$ speedtest > Download: 496.67 Mbit/s > VERSION_CODENAME=trixie So it looks as if this will be fixed in Debian 13. Roger

Re: Xsane hangs while acquiring from saned scanner

2025-05-09 Thread mick.crane
On 2025-05-09 15:54, nmanca wrote: Hi, I'm trying to setup a shared scanner in my home LAN from a Debian Trixie server. So far, I followed the steps reported in [1]. I avoided the ipp-usb protocol and relied on the older implementation based on net sane backed as apparently my Samsung SCX-340

Re: speedtest ok from site, fails on command line

2025-05-09 Thread Lee
On Fri, May 9, 2025 at 11:57 AM Roger Price wrote: > > If I visit speedtest.net and click on "Go", I get 356Mbps download, and 19Mbps > upload with multiconnection via Starlink and a server in Paris. But when I > load > Debian 12 package speedtest-cli I get > > rprice@maria ~ speedtest > Retrie

Re: Debian on a VERY OLD hardware?

2025-05-09 Thread Greg
On 2025-05-08, wrote: > >> I'm interested in this topic, so I've done a little research >> online. Many folks look at energy consumption in terms of CO2 >> emissions, as a useful proxy for direct energy use. > > Thanks for the links! I'm interested in this topic, too (and > am mulling to have a d

Re: speedtest ok from site, fails on command line

2025-05-09 Thread The Wanderer
On 2025-05-09 at 11:57, Roger Price wrote: > If I visit speedtest.net and click on "Go", I get 356Mbps download, and > 19Mbps > upload with multiconnection via Starlink and a server in Paris. But when I > load > Debian 12 package speedtest-cli I get > > rprice@maria ~ speedtest > Retrievi

Re: speedtest ok from site, fails on command line

2025-05-09 Thread Kent West
On Fri, 2025-05-09 at 17:57 +0200, Roger Price wrote: > If I visit speedtest.net and click on "Go", I get 356Mbps download, > and 19Mbps > upload with multiconnection via Starlink and a server in Paris.  But > when I load > Debian 12 package speedtest-cli I get > >  rprice@maria ~ speedtest >  

Re: speedtest ok from site, fails on command line

2025-05-09 Thread Thomas Dineen
What is the latency for a Starlink round trip? On 5/9/2025 8:57 AM, Roger Price wrote: If I visit speedtest.net and click on "Go", I get 356Mbps download, and 19Mbps upload with multiconnection via Starlink and a server in Paris. But when I load Debian 12 package speedtest-cli I get rprice@

speedtest ok from site, fails on command line

2025-05-09 Thread Roger Price
If I visit speedtest.net and click on "Go", I get 356Mbps download, and 19Mbps upload with multiconnection via Starlink and a server in Paris. But when I load Debian 12 package speedtest-cli I get rprice@maria ~ speedtest Retrieving speedtest.net configuration... Testing from Starlink (216

Xsane hangs while acquiring from saned scanner

2025-05-09 Thread nmanca
Hi, I'm trying to setup a shared scanner in my home LAN from a Debian Trixie server. So far, I followed the steps reported in [1]. I avoided the ipp-usb protocol and relied on the older implementation based on net sane backed as apparently my Samsung SCX-3400 prefers that one. The scanner is

Weird keyboard issues with Firefox in KDE6 Plasma Wayland

2025-05-09 Thread Bernhard Schmidt
Hi, I have a very weird issue I can't quite trace, and I have no idea where to start looking. Maybe someone has a decent hint where to start debugging. It looks like some keyboard handling issues in Wayland apps. I have switched from bookworm+kde5+wayland to trixie+kde6+wayland a few months ag

Re: System Crash in LibreOffice When Using Large Fonts with Black Text (Debian, Mint, Kali --Suspected i915 Issue on Debian)

2025-05-09 Thread Dan Purgert
On May 09, 2025, Rohin S Nair wrote: > Dear Debian Team, > > I am experiencing a severe issue on Debian and Debian-based distributions > when using LibreOffice with large fonts. > When attempting to display content particularly with large fonts and black > text the system becomes completely unresp

System Crash in LibreOffice When Using Large Fonts with Black Text (Debian, Mint, Kali --Suspected i915 Issue on Debian)

2025-05-09 Thread Rohin S Nair
Dear Debian Team, I am experiencing a severe issue on Debian and Debian-based distributions when using LibreOffice with large fonts. When attempting to display content particularly with large fonts and black text the system becomes completely unresponsive and returns to the login screen and no log