Re: Installing old Debian releases

2025-04-03 Thread Michael Paoli
Info can also be used for upgrading (much) older releases (notably older ones beyond both main and LTS support) On Mon, Mar 31, 2025 at 12:51 AM wrote: > For comparison, some research and portability tests I'd like > to install old releases of Debian, i.e. versions 8, 9, 10. > Are there archives

"solved" in message subject

2025-04-03 Thread Max Nikulin
On 02/04/2025 05:17, Jeffrey Walton wrote: I see the changing of title or subject to add things like "SOLVED" is not included in the FAQ. I am neutral to this recommendations. Just some considerations... I rarely use Gmail web UI, but this time I was curious enough to check its behavior. I

Re: Perl module Digest::SHA256 and Debian package libdigest-sha-perl

2025-04-03 Thread Michael Paoli
(response bits in-line): On Wed, Apr 2, 2025 at 4:08 PM David Christensen wrote: > I would like to use the Perl module Digest::SHA256 on Debian: > # cat /etc/debian_version ; uname -a > 11.11 > Linux laalaa 5.10.0-34-amd64 #1 SMP Debian 5.10.234-1 (2025-02-24) > x86_64 GNU/Linux > # perl -e 'use

Re: Failed unmounting disk mes. on every restart

2025-04-03 Thread Max Nikulin
On 03/04/2025 22:05, J wrote: And i want to ask again: can these problems lead to information loss? It depends on details you (likely) may find in logs. If an application is terminated by SIGKILL (from your description I suspect that it happens sometimes) when it is writing data then you can

Re: Ethernet interfaces ignoring 'Connect Automatically' setting on Debian 12 (Bookworm)

2025-04-03 Thread Michael Stone
On Thu, Apr 03, 2025 at 09:38:29PM -0400, Jeffrey Walton wrote: ... when a cable from the server is connected to the Ethernet port of a client device, the Debian server will automatically recognize the new physical connection and then automatically activate that connection. It sounds

Re: DHCP and static addresses, nothing to do with Re: Who:Bookwormv.Trixie

2025-04-03 Thread Greg Wooledge
On Thu, Apr 03, 2025 at 22:15:57 -0400, Jeffrey Walton wrote: > Yeah, I'm going to lookup what Stevens has to say about the hosts file > in TCP/IP Illustrated. I need to figure out where the confusion lies. Here's what the Debian manual has to say about it:

Re: DHCP and static addresses, nothing to do with Re: Who:Bookwormv.Trixie

2025-04-03 Thread Jeffrey Walton
On Thu, Apr 3, 2025 at 10:13 PM Michael Stone wrote: > > On Thu, Apr 03, 2025 at 12:59:19PM -0400, Jeffrey Walton wrote: > >I think the idea is, software can always use 127.0.1.1 to find the > >host's fully qualified domain name, without the need to know real IP > >address. (And what to do with mu

Re: DHCP and static addresses, nothing to do with Re: Who:Bookwormv.Trixie

2025-04-03 Thread Michael Stone
On Thu, Apr 03, 2025 at 12:59:19PM -0400, Jeffrey Walton wrote: I think the idea is, software can always use 127.0.1.1 to find the host's fully qualified domain name, without the need to know real IP address. (And what to do with multihomed hosts?) It literally doesn't matter. The host knows it

Re: Ethernet interfaces ignoring 'Connect Automatically' setting on Debian 12 (Bookworm)

2025-04-03 Thread jeremy ardley
On 4/4/25 09:38, Jeffrey Walton wrote: It sounds like the client is connected directly to the server via ethernet, presumably without a cross-over ethernet cable. So both ethernet ports would need to auto-sense the configuration. Can you run the same experiment with a hub or switch in between?

Re: Ethernet interfaces ignoring 'Connect Automatically' setting on Debian 12 (Bookworm)

2025-04-03 Thread Jeffrey Walton
On Thu, Apr 3, 2025 at 9:32 PM wrote: > > Background Information > === > > Debian 12 Bookworm has been freshly installed on a laptop. The laptop is > functioning as a simple home server and has three Ethernet devices, two USB > Ethernet adapters and a built-in Ethernet adapte

Ethernet interfaces ignoring 'Connect Automatically' setting on Debian 12 (Bookworm)

2025-04-03 Thread coffeeforblood . pardon117
Background Information === Debian 12 Bookworm has been freshly installed on a laptop. The laptop is functioning as a simple home server and has three Ethernet devices, two USB Ethernet adapters and a built-in Ethernet adapter. Ethernet cables are permanently inserted into ea

Re: Ethernet interfaces ignoring 'Connect Automatically' setting on Debian 12 (Bookworm)

2025-04-03 Thread jeremy ardley
On 4/4/25 06:56, coffeeforblood.pardon...@slmail.me wrote: I noted that systemd-networkd service is not running by default. For testing purposes I enabled and started this service, but there was no improvement. systemd-networkd is a competitor to NetworkManager. You need to run one or the

Re: Ethernet interfaces ignoring 'Connect Automatically' setting on Debian 12 (Bookworm)

2025-04-03 Thread Charles Curley
On Fri, 4 Apr 2025 00:56:05 +0200 (CEST) coffeeforblood.pardon...@slmail.me wrote: > Is it normal for 'systemd-networkd' not to be running by default on a > fresh installation of Debian 12, as a general rule? I disabled it > again after troubleshooting this problem. Yes, it is. Installation does

Re: OT: Re: Web server access

2025-04-03 Thread john doe
On 4/3/25 21:43, Van Snyder wrote: On Thu, 2025-04-03 at 15:16 +0200, john doe wrote: On 4/3/25 01:19, Van Snyder wrote: On Wed, 2025-04-02 at 15:24 -0400, Greg Wooledge wrote: I added port 443 only because my router converted the port 80 request to a port 443 request. I eventually worked

Re: OT: Re: Web server access

2025-04-03 Thread Van Snyder
On Thu, 2025-04-03 at 15:16 +0200, john doe wrote: > On 4/3/25 01:19, Van Snyder wrote: > > On Wed, 2025-04-02 at 15:24 -0400, Greg Wooledge wrote: > > > > > > I added port 443 only because my router converted the port 80 > > request > > to a port 443 request. I eventually worked out the reason f

IPv6 and loopback addresses (was Re: DHCP and static addresses)

2025-04-03 Thread Andy Smith
Hi, On Thu, Apr 03, 2025 at 01:28:43PM -, Greg wrote: > On 2025-04-03, Dan Purgert wrote: > > Indeed, the entirety of 127.0.0.0/8 is the virtual loopback adapter > > (i.e. "localhost"). > > I thought IPV6 opened up the flood gates of assigning "real" ip > addresses In IPv6 you still need lo

Re: DHCP and static addresses, nothing to do with Re: Who:Bookwormv.Trixie

2025-04-03 Thread Greg Wooledge
On Thu, Apr 03, 2025 at 12:59:19 -0400, Jeffrey Walton wrote: > I think the idea is, software can always use 127.0.1.1 to find the > host's fully qualified domain name, No. Absolutely not. You have it exactly backwards. The purpose of putting the "127.0.1.1 my_hostname" line in /etc/hosts by de

Re: DHCP and static addresses, nothing to do with Re: Who:Bookwormv.Trixie

2025-04-03 Thread Dan Purgert
On Apr 02, 2025, David Wright wrote: > On Wed 02 Apr 2025 at 09:12:24 (-0400), gene heskett wrote: > > [...] > > Experimenting I find the duplication does not seem to generate an > > error, other than I now had to ping itself by address, since the name > > is now found at 127.0.1.1 by pings lookup?

OT: Re: Web server access

2025-04-03 Thread john doe
On 4/3/25 01:19, Van Snyder wrote: On Wed, 2025-04-02 at 15:24 -0400, Greg Wooledge wrote: I added port 443 only because my router converted the port 80 request to a port 443 request. I eventually worked out the reason for that was because my server had started running a firewall that blocke

Re: DHCP and static addresses, nothing to do with Re:Who:Bookwormv.Trixie

2025-04-03 Thread gene heskett
On 4/3/25 06:55, Greg Wooledge wrote: On Wed, Apr 02, 2025 at 22:28:24 -0500, David Wright wrote: 127.0.1.1 coyote.coyote.den coyote [...] I don't see the point in leaving it there. If you want to send something to coyote.coyote.den, why do you want the LAN address when 127.0.1.1 is just as good

Re: DHCP and static addresses, nothing to do with Re: Who:Bookwormv.Trixie

2025-04-03 Thread Greg
On 2025-04-03, Dan Purgert wrote: >> That's what you want: as the address is in the 127.0.0.0 network, >> pinging it will ping itself, and it gets a reply. It doesn't >> require your LAN to be set up, and AIUI it's like localhost >> (127.0.0.1) in that it doesn't touch the network hardware. > > I

Re: Perl module Digest::SHA256 and Debian package libdigest-sha-perl

2025-04-03 Thread Nicholas Geovanis
On Thu, Apr 3, 2025, 6:38 AM wrote: > Greg Wooledge wrote: > > On Wed, Apr 02, 2025 at 16:07:36 -0700, David Christensen wrote: > > FWIW, it seems that the author of the older package has died. :( > You know I can't help it, every time I see something like that I think of Ian Murdock.

CLARIFICATION -- Re: Documentation for NetworkManager 1.30.0 -- Where?

2025-04-03 Thread Richard Owlett
On 4/2/25 8:41 AM, Richard Owlett wrote: I am running Debian 12.8 with MATE 1.26.0 . When right-clicking on the Network Manager icon's "About" button it identifies itself as version 1.30.0 . There is a link to http://www.gnome.org/projects/NetworkManager/ which results in a 404 error. I have

Re: Perl module Digest::SHA256 and Debian package libdigest-sha-perl

2025-04-03 Thread debian-user
Greg Wooledge wrote: > On Wed, Apr 02, 2025 at 16:07:36 -0700, David Christensen wrote: > > But installing libdigest-sha-perl does not provide Digest::SHA256: > > They are different modules. > > https://metacpan.org/pod/Digest::SHA256 > https://metacpan.org/pod/Digest::SHA > > Digest::SHA256

Re: Documentation for NetworkManager 1.30.0 -- Where?

2025-04-03 Thread mick.crane
On 2025-04-03 01:57, Charles Curley wrote: On Thu, 3 Apr 2025 05:34:35 +0800 Bret Busby wrote: The version of the applet in my taskbar, shows as 1.24.0 (copyrighted to Red Hat,and I believe that I have not used Red hat, since v6.0), from the About item in the menu, running on Mate Synaptic sh

Re: DHCP and static addresses, nothing to do with Re: Who:Bookwormv.Trixie

2025-04-03 Thread Greg Wooledge
On Wed, Apr 02, 2025 at 22:28:24 -0500, David Wright wrote: > 127.0.1.1 coyote.coyote.den coyote > [...] > I don't see the point in leaving it there. If you want to send > something to coyote.coyote.den, why do you want the LAN address > when 127.0.1.1 is just as good. If the line is correct, it do