Re: fstrim for LUKS2 encyrypted LVM

2025-02-20 Thread tomas
On Thu, Feb 20, 2025 at 02:48:21PM -0500, gene heskett wrote: > > On 2/20/25 14:10, Marco Möller wrote: > > To my understanding, it makes no sense to perform a TRIM on storage > > which is a LUKS2 encyrypted LVM. The storage device should anyway think > > that each bit is in use after it was fille

Re: Debian 12.9 and use of sudo for regular accounts

2025-02-20 Thread jeremy ardley
On 21/2/25 09:40, Tom Dial wrote: The TL;DR here is that for maintaining personal workstations and servers it makes more sense to log in as root, do the work as required, then log out. Or there is "sudo -i" to get an interactive root shell and avoid prepending every command with "sudo." L

Re: Debian 12.9 and use of sudo for regular accounts

2025-02-20 Thread jeremy ardley
On 21/2/25 09:40, Tom Dial wrote: The TL;DR here is that for maintaining personal workstations and servers it makes more sense to log in as root, do the work as required, then log out. Or there is "sudo -i" to get an interactive root shell and avoid prepending every command with "sudo." A

Re: Debian 12.9 and use of sudo for regular accounts

2025-02-20 Thread Timothy M Butterworth
On Thu, Feb 20, 2025 at 5:46 PM Nicolas George wrote: > Jeffrey Walton (HE12025-02-20): > >and members of sudo can run any command. > > Is it because of this last line: > > > rootALL=(ALL:ALL) ALL > > > > sudoALL=(ALL:ALL) ALL > # User privilege specification rootALL=

Re: Alternative to Debian Repository - extract CSV formatted data from PDF

2025-02-20 Thread Max Nikulin
On 21/02/2025 08:00, David Wright wrote: I dragged the mouse across the Males table and dumped it in a file. David, I recall you mentioned xpdf in your messages. It allows to select rectangular regions. Sometimes it is convenient since this strategy does not depend on order of objects inside

Re: Debian 12.9 and use of sudo for regular accounts

2025-02-20 Thread Lee
On Thu, Feb 20, 2025 at 6:42 PM Jeffrey Walton wrote: > > Hi Everyone, > > I have a fresh Debian 12.9 install. My user account is part of sudo > group, and members of sudo can run any command. No... the "sudo" user can run any command: > sudoALL=(ALL:ALL) ALL I have %sudo ALL=(ALL:ALL)

Re: Debian 12.9 and use of sudo for regular accounts

2025-02-20 Thread Tom Dial
The straight, but blunt, answer here, I think, is to read the man pages for sudo and sudoers (i.e., the /etc/suduoers file that does access control for the sudo command. The command is very flexible and can be tuned to allow specified sudoers to use elevated privilege only to execute specific c

Re: Debian 12.9 and use of sudo for regular accounts

2025-02-20 Thread Xiyue Deng
Jeffrey Walton writes: > Hi Everyone, > > I have a fresh Debian 12.9 install. My user account is part of sudo > group, and members of sudo can run any command. However, I get an > error when trying to use sudo: > > $ sudo ls > [sudo] password for jwalton: > jwalton is not in the sudoe

Re: Alternative to Debian Repository - extract CSV formatted data from PDF

2025-02-20 Thread David Wright
On Thu 20 Feb 2025 at 13:52:06 (-0600), Richard Owlett wrote: > On 2/20/25 11:20 AM, debian-u...@howorth.org.uk wrote: > > Richard Owlett wrote: > > > I wish to extract CSV formatted data from a PDF document. [1] > > > Page ES-7 has a weekly grocery list for males grouped by age. > > > I need only

Re: Debian 12.9 and use of sudo for regular accounts

2025-02-20 Thread Jeffrey Walton
On Thu, Feb 20, 2025 at 5:46 PM Nicolas George wrote: > > Jeffrey Walton (HE12025-02-20): > >and members of sudo can run any command. > > Is it because of this last line: > > > rootALL=(ALL:ALL) ALL > > > > sudoALL=(ALL:ALL) ALL > > ? But does it mean the previous one gives

Re: Debian 12.9 and use of sudo for regular accounts

2025-02-20 Thread Nicolas George
Jeffrey Walton (HE12025-02-20): >and members of sudo can run any command. Is it because of this last line: > rootALL=(ALL:ALL) ALL > > sudoALL=(ALL:ALL) ALL ? But does it mean the previous one gives sudo privileges to all members of the root group? Or is it that the last

Re: Debian 12.9 and use of sudo for regular accounts

2025-02-20 Thread Alexander V. Makartsev
On 21.02.2025 03:29, Jeffrey Walton wrote: ... sudoALL=(ALL:ALL) ALL I've rebooted the machine twice. I know the failure is not due to stale login information. Does anyone know why I cannot use sudo in this case? Jeff Your line misses % for some reason. sudo in your case is the nam

Debian 12.9 and use of sudo for regular accounts

2025-02-20 Thread Jeffrey Walton
Hi Everyone, I have a fresh Debian 12.9 install. My user account is part of sudo group, and members of sudo can run any command. However, I get an error when trying to use sudo: $ sudo ls [sudo] password for jwalton: jwalton is not in the sudoers file. $ groups jwalton cdrom

Re: fstrim for LUKS2 encyrypted LVM

2025-02-20 Thread gene heskett
On 2/20/25 15:29, Marco Möller wrote: On 2/20/25 20:48, gene heskett wrote: On 2/20/25 14:10, Marco Möller wrote: To my understanding, it makes no sense to perform a TRIM on storage which is a LUKS2 encyrypted LVM. The storage device should anyway think that each bit is in use after it was

Re: no package management tool

2025-02-20 Thread Stefan Monnier
Charles Curley [2025-02-20 14:12:10] wrote: > On Thu, 20 Feb 2025 16:27:31 +0100 > Yassine Chaouche wrote: >> >> in order to close as many security holes as possible, >> > Oh, that's a very charitable way to look at it. 🙂 >> That was my honest opinion but now I feel gullible :) >> I don't see

Re: no package management tool

2025-02-20 Thread John Hasler
Charles Curley writes: > Spyware? Snoopware? A back door to allow hostile crackers to bypass the > router's security? > All of which would be hard to detect, and not allowing the user to add > anything would help disguise such shenanigans. I doubt that anyone seriously looking for such shenanigan

Re: fstrim for LUKS2 encyrypted LVM

2025-02-20 Thread Charles Curley
On Thu, 20 Feb 2025 14:48:21 -0500 gene heskett wrote: > Generally speaking, all file systems know exactly whats in use, > they have to, otherwise they would randomly overwrite another file, > The encryption is only for the data in that allocated space. The file > system knows nothing about that

Re: no package management tool

2025-02-20 Thread Charles Curley
On Thu, 20 Feb 2025 16:27:31 +0100 Yassine Chaouche wrote: > >> in order to close as many security holes as possible, > > > > Oh, that's a very charitable way to look at it. 🙂 > > That was my honest opinion but now I feel gullible :) > I don't see how the manufacturer could profit from thi

Re: fstrim for LUKS2 encyrypted LVM

2025-02-20 Thread Marco Möller
On 2/20/25 20:48, gene heskett wrote: On 2/20/25 14:10, Marco Möller wrote: To my understanding, it makes no sense to perform a TRIM on storage which is a LUKS2 encyrypted LVM. The storage device should anyway think that each bit is in use after it was filled with random data when creating th

Re: Alternative to Debian Repository - extract CSV formatted data from PDF

2025-02-20 Thread Richard Owlett
On 2/20/25 11:20 AM, debian-u...@howorth.org.uk wrote: Richard Owlett wrote: I wish to extract CSV formatted data from a PDF document. [1] Page ES-7 has a weekly grocery list for males grouped by age. I need only the first and last columns. Can someone point me in a suitable direction? TIA [

Re: fstrim for LUKS2 encyrypted LVM

2025-02-20 Thread gene heskett
On 2/20/25 14:10, Marco Möller wrote: To my understanding, it makes no sense to perform a TRIM on storage which is a LUKS2 encyrypted LVM. The storage device should anyway think that each bit is in use after it was filled with random data when creating the space. Not only that I cannot imagin

Re: Which web server is installed during Setup/Software Installation?

2025-02-20 Thread Dan Ritter
Jeffrey Walton wrote: > Hi Everyone, > > I need to test a Spring app on Debain 12. I'm installing Debian 12.9. > I'm at the Select Software portion of the installation. The selections > include Web Server. Spring typically uses Tomcat. > > Here is the screen capture: . >

fstrim for LUKS2 encyrypted LVM

2025-02-20 Thread Marco Möller
To my understanding, it makes no sense to perform a TRIM on storage which is a LUKS2 encyrypted LVM. The storage device should anyway think that each bit is in use after it was filled with random data when creating the space. Not only that I cannot imagine how the storage device should Know wha

Re: Which web server is installed during Setup/Software Installation?

2025-02-20 Thread Jeffrey Walton
On Thu, Feb 20, 2025 at 1:37 PM Dan Ritter wrote: > > Jeffrey Walton wrote: > > Hi Everyone, > > > > I need to test a Spring app on Debain 12. I'm installing Debian 12.9. > > I'm at the Select Software portion of the installation. The selections > > include Web Server. Spring typically uses Tomcat

Which web server is installed during Setup/Software Installation?

2025-02-20 Thread Jeffrey Walton
Hi Everyone, I need to test a Spring app on Debain 12. I'm installing Debian 12.9. I'm at the Select Software portion of the installation. The selections include Web Server. Spring typically uses Tomcat. Here is the screen capture: . My question is, which web server is i

Re: Alternative to Debian Repository - extract CSV formatted data from PDF

2025-02-20 Thread Hans
Am Donnerstag, 20. Februar 2025, 15:08:27 CET schrieb Richard Owlett: > I wish to extract CSV formatted data from a PDF document. [1] > Page ES-7 has a weekly grocery list for males grouped by age. > I need only the first and last columns. > > Can someone point me in a suitable direction? > > TIA

Re: Alternative to Debian Repository - extract CSV formatted data from PDF

2025-02-20 Thread debian-user
Richard Owlett wrote: > I wish to extract CSV formatted data from a PDF document. [1] > Page ES-7 has a weekly grocery list for males grouped by age. > I need only the first and last columns. > > Can someone point me in a suitable direction? > > TIA > > [1] https://www.fns.usda.gov/cnpp/thrifty

Re: Alternative to Debian Repository - extract CSV formatted data from PDF

2025-02-20 Thread John Hasler
Try pdftotext. -- John Hasler j...@sugarbit.com Elmwood, WI USA

Re: Alternative to Debian Repository - extract CSV formatted data from PDF

2025-02-20 Thread mick.crane
On 2025-02-20 14:08, Richard Owlett wrote: I wish to extract CSV formatted data from a PDF document. [1] Page ES-7 has a weekly grocery list for males grouped by age. I need only the first and last columns. Can someone point me in a suitable direction? TIA [1] https://www.fns.usda.gov/cnpp/thr

Re: Issues with D-Link DWA-160 network adapter

2025-02-20 Thread Ceppo
On Fri, Feb 14, 2025 at 09:32:25AM +0700, Max Nikulin wrote: > Something might change outside your machine: you installed another > router, more devices have been added to your wifi network, including > ones actively using multicast (IPTV), some of your neighbors installed > new access point wor

Re: no package management tool

2025-02-20 Thread John Hasler
Most likely they simply removed everything not necessary for the thing to run in order to minimize memory requirements and gave it no more thought than that. They would see no reason that any end user would ever need any of those tools. To them it's an appliance, not a computer. -- John Hasler

Re: no package management tool

2025-02-20 Thread Yassine Chaouche
Le 2/20/25 à 16:13, Stefan Monnier a écrit : I can only imagine the manufacturer wants the installation to be minimal [...] in order to close as many security holes as possible, Oh, that's a very charitable way to look at it. 🙂 That was my honest opinion but now I feel gullible :) I don't se

Re: no package management tool

2025-02-20 Thread Stefan Monnier
> I can only imagine the manufacturer wants the installation to be minimal Agreed. > in order to close as many security holes as possible, Oh, that's a very charitable way to look at it. 🙂 Stefan

Alternative to Debian Repository - extract CSV formatted data from PDF

2025-02-20 Thread Richard Owlett
I wish to extract CSV formatted data from a PDF document. [1] Page ES-7 has a weekly grocery list for males grouped by age. I need only the first and last columns. Can someone point me in a suitable direction? TIA [1] https://www.fns.usda.gov/cnpp/thrifty-food-plan-2006 Table ES-1. Thrifty

Gimp xsane plug-in on bookworm

2025-02-20 Thread dmthompson
Hi all, I noticed on bookworm, that xsane is not being loaded as a plugin, even though is being recognised in the initial first run splash screen. Even if I create a symbolic link to xsane in the users .config/GIMP/plug-ins folder, still does not load. From terminal I notice a clash between the

Re: no package management tool

2025-02-20 Thread Yassine Chaouche
Le 2/20/25 à 05:40, tim wade a écrit : Hello I have logged in a router system which is linux. The provider said it's based on debian OS. [...] Hi Tim! Out of curiosity, did you check any of the /etc/ files for the distro name? I use this alias: $ sys.distro Debian GNU/Linux 12 \n \l