Re: Zoom

On 1/31/25 23:13, to...@tuxteam.de wrote: I just wanted to dispell the impression that "there's no choice". That's what a commercial entity's marketing department wants you to believe -- after all, they get paid for that. As another encouraging datapoint, there's Senfcall [0], a not for profit s

Re: Zoom

On 1/31/25 01:50, Hans wrote: Hi folks, I am following this discussion here with great interest. We all know, that Zoom is not quite secure and we all know, that our data are transferred int the US (where they probably will be processed further on). Thus, many alternatives were mentioned li

Re: Zoom

On Fri, Jan 31, 2025 at 10:26:45PM -0800, D MacDougall wrote: > On 1/31/25 02:46, to...@tuxteam.de wrote: > > Thing is -- you always have some. Use it. Sometimes it's direct, > > sometimes via advocacy groups, the best being to combine both. > ... > > Most of the time, the "normal" size is 30s to 4

Re: Zoom

On 1/31/25 02:46, to...@tuxteam.de wrote: Thing is -- you always have some. Use it. Sometimes it's direct, sometimes via advocacy groups, the best being to combine both. ... Most of the time, the "normal" size is 30s to 40s of users. And I have seen BBB perform surprisingly well there. Two exam

Re: Debian 11 DVD ISO install requires mirror to avoid installation failure

On Fri 31 Jan 2025 at 23:30:52 (+), Andrew M.A. Cater wrote: > On Fri, Jan 31, 2025 at 02:55:56PM +0900, Mailing List wrote: > > I believe I've found a bug in the DVD ISO installer logic which affects > > 11.11 and earlier but in theory could affect 12.x as well. > > > > Description: > > > >

Don't set APT::Default-Release to backports (was: Re: Firefox and Video DRM)

On 01/02/2025 02:34, Eddie wrote: In Synaptic go to "Settings" - 'Preferences" - "Distributions" then select "Prefer Versions From" - backports Do not do it. It is not a supposed way to use backports. It is therefore recommended to only select single backported

Re: /usr/share/perl5/Publican/TreeView.pm has problem in runtime

On 1/31/25 5:57 PM, Henning Follmann wrote: Please do not post html formatted mails to the mailing list. On Fri, Jan 31, 2025 at 01:43:52PM +0330, Mohsen Pahlevanzadeh wrote: Hello , When I‌ run publican version 4.3.2-4 on debian unstable, I get the following error message: ###

Re: Debian 11 DVD ISO install requires mirror to avoid installation failure

On Fri, Jan 31, 2025 at 02:55:56PM +0900, Mailing List wrote: > I believe I've found a bug in the DVD ISO installer logic which affects > 11.11 and earlier but in theory could affect 12.x as well. > > Description: > > A default installation of Debian 11.11 (Bullseye) from the official DVD ISO > f

Re: Firefox and Video DRM

On Fri, 31 Jan 2025 22:52:18 +0100 (CET) Roger Price wrote: > deb http://deb.debian.org/debian/ bookworm-backports main contrib > non-free > > Note the http and not https. Is this critical ? Normally, not. It may if you use an apt cache such as apt-cacher-ng. Those cannot inspect an HTTPS str

Re: Firefox and Video DRM

On Fri, 31 Jan 2025 22:41:29 +0100 (CET) Roger Price wrote: > Should I add allow-insecure=yes or allow-downgrade-to-insecure=yes to > sources.list, or is there some better way? Neither. Your line was incorrect. Also, best practice is to create a new file: root@hawk:~# cat /etc/apt/sources.list

Re: Firefox and Video DRM

On Saturday, 01-02-2025 at 09:01 Roger Price wrote: > On Fri, 31 Jan 2025, Jeffrey Walton wrote: > > It is bookworm-backports, not debian-backports. See > > . > > My error, I corrected my sources.list. Command apt update then ran > correctly, > and comman

Re: Firefox and Video DRM

On Fri, 31 Jan 2025, Jeffrey Walton wrote: > It is bookworm-backports, not debian-backports. See > . My error, I corrected my sources.list. Command apt update then ran correctly, and command root@maria ~ apt -t bookworm-backports install yt-dlp youtubedl-gu

Re: Firefox and Video DRM

On Saturday, 01-02-2025 at 08:41 Roger Price wrote: > On Fri, 31 Jan 2025, Eddie wrote: > > On 1/31/25 12:40, Henrik Ahlgren wrote: > > > Packages from backports are pinned with low priority (100) and never > > > installed by default. So in order to install a backported package, you > > > need t

Re: Firefox and Video DRM

On Sat, 1 Feb 2025, George at Clug wrote: > # apt remove yt-dlp youtubedl-gui I successfully removed yt-dlp and youtubedl-gui with this command. My sources.list contains the line deb http://deb.debian.org/debian/ bookworm-backports main contrib non-free Note the http and not https. Is this cr

Re: Firefox and Video DRM

On Fri, Jan 31, 2025 at 4:41 PM Roger Price wrote: > > On Fri, 31 Jan 2025, Eddie wrote: > > On 1/31/25 12:40, Henrik Ahlgren wrote: > > > Packages from backports are pinned with low priority (100) and never > > > installed by default. So in order to install a backported package, you > > > need to

Re: Firefox and Video DRM

On Fri, 31 Jan 2025, Eddie wrote: > On 1/31/25 12:40, Henrik Ahlgren wrote: > > Packages from backports are pinned with low priority (100) and never > > installed by default. So in order to install a backported package, you > > need to do it like: > > > > apt install yt-dlp/bookworm-backports > >

Re: Firefox and Video DRM

On Saturday, 01-02-2025 at 03:57 Roger Price wrote: > On Fri, 31 Jan 2025, Henrik Ahlgren wrote: > > > On Fri, 2025-01-31 at 21:53 +1100, George at Clug wrote: > > > The same (now that I am using backports): > > > $ yt-dlp --version > > > 2025.01.15 > > > > In fact, 2025.01.26 just landed in b

Re: Debian 11 DVD ISO install requires mirror to avoid installation failure

On Fri 31 Jan 2025 at 14:55:56 (+0900), Mailing List wrote: > I believe I've found a bug in the DVD ISO installer logic which affects > 11.11 and earlier but in theory could affect 12.x as well. > > Description: > > A default installation of Debian 11.11 (Bullseye) from the official DVD ISO > fai

Re: Debian 12 and AMD Ryzen 9 9950X with X870-E chipset kernel support

On 1/21/25 23:23, Johannes Krottmayer wrote: Hi! I have planned to upgrade my (very old) system. The new system will be a mainboard with X870-E chipset and a AMD Ryzen 9 9950X3D (the CPU isn't currently available), so have written AMD Ryzen 9 9950X in the mail subject. Has somebody such a combi

Re: Firefox and Video DRM

On 1/31/25 12:40, Henrik Ahlgren wrote: On Fri, 2025-01-31 at 17:57 +0100, Roger Price wrote: I followed the instructions for synaptic at https://wiki.debian.org and added the repository deb http://deb.debian.org/debian bookworm-backports main contrib non-free I clicked on ¨Reload" to rel

Re: mc problem with EXTDIRHELPER variable

On Fri, Jan 31, 2025 at 14:05:02 -0500, Frank McCormick wrote: >I am running Trixie. Should have made that clear before. > What I can't understand is MC would open and browse ZIP files and DEB files > but would not open PDF files. > At any rate the offending macro was in the mc.ext.ini files in

Re: mc problem with EXTDIRHELPER variable

On 1/31/25 1:28 PM, Greg Wooledge wrote: /tmp/mc-frank/mcextELJ902: 11: @EXTHELPERSDIR@/doc.sh: not found It would help if someone were to show us the offending file, though I don't quite understand why there's something that appears to be either a shell script or a perl script in /tmp. Hh

Re: mc problem with EXTDIRHELPER variable

> > > /tmp/mc-frank/mcextELJ902: 11: @EXTHELPERSDIR@/doc.sh: not found It would help if someone were to show us the offending file, though I don't quite understand why there's something that appears to be either a shell script or a perl script in /tmp. > > Hhmm, looks like it is looking for doc.s

Re: Firefox and Video DRM

On Fri, 2025-01-31 at 17:57 +0100, Roger Price wrote: > I followed the instructions for synaptic at https://wiki.debian.org and added > the repository > > deb http://deb.debian.org/debian bookworm-backports main contrib non-free > > I clicked on ¨Reload" to reload the package listings and searc

Re: Firefox and Video DRM

On Friday 31 January 2025 01:50:52 am George at Clug wrote: > Does anyone use Firefox to watch DRM protected Video content? > > Is it normal for DRM to display lots of ads whenever Firefox is > loaded? > > I did enable DRM once, a long time ago, and I started getting annoying > ads whenever Fire

Re: Firefox and Video DRM

On Fri, 31 Jan 2025, Henrik Ahlgren wrote: > On Fri, 2025-01-31 at 21:53 +1100, George at Clug wrote: > > The same (now that I am using backports): > > $ yt-dlp --version > > 2025.01.15 > > In fact, 2025.01.26 just landed in bookworm-backports today. I followed the instructions for synaptic at h

Re: mc problem with EXTDIRHELPER variable

On 1/31/25 11:21 AM, Frank McCormick wrote: On 1/31/25 9:42 AM, Hans wrote: Hi Frank, looks ok here with MC on debian/stable.     Upon further investigation, the problem seems restricted to PDF files. MC will open ZIP and DEB files. If I run MC in an xterm I see this: Enter some *.pdf

Re: mc problem with EXTDIRHELPER variable

On 1/31/25 9:42 AM, Hans wrote: Hi Frank, looks ok here with MC on debian/stable. Upon further investigation, the problem seems restricted to PDF files. MC will open ZIP and DEB files. If I run MC in an xterm I see this: Enter some *.pdf will open it using okular as pdf-viewer. I ha

Re: finding package for reportbug

On Fri, 2025-01-31 at 16:12 +0100, Franziska Menti wrote: > Dear all, > > I would like to make a bugreport. This is my first time trying to > file a bug report. Reportbug is asking me for the name of the package > in which I found a problem. Since I am a novice, I don't know. Also, > I wonder if i

Re: mc problem with EXTDIRHELPER variable

On 1/31/25 9:42 AM, Hans wrote: Hi Frank, looks ok here with MC on debian/stable. Upon further investigation, the problem seems restricted to PDF files. MC will open ZIP and DEB files. If I run MC in an xterm I see this: Enter some *.pdf will open it using okular as pdf-viewer. /tmp

Re: finding package for reportbug

Sorry, I hit the wrong button. On Fri, 31 Jan 2025 09:02:37 -0700 Charles Curley wrote: > You did not mention what sort of hardware you are running. Running > lspci as root should give us what we need. Something like: root@peregrine:~# lspci -vs 1f.3 :00:1f.3 Audio device: Intel Corporation

Re: finding package for reportbug

On Fri, 31 Jan 2025 16:12:55 +0100 Franziska Menti wrote: > My debian problem: My inbuilt microphone of my laptop stopped working > since about one month. It worked smoothly for months before then. I > believe the issue > appeared after an update. You can check for what packages were upgraded ab

finding package for reportbug

Dear all, I would like to make a bugreport. This is my first time trying to file a bug report. Reportbug is asking me for the name of the package in which I found a problem. Since I am a novice, I don't know. Also, I wonder if it would be better to just post my issue in a debian forum and not

Re: mc problem with EXTDIRHELPER variable

Hi Frank, looks ok here with MC on debian/stable. >Upon further investigation, the problem seems restricted to PDF > files. MC will open ZIP and DEB files. If I run MC in an xterm I see this: Enter some *.pdf will open it using okular as pdf-viewer. > > /tmp/mc-frank/mcextELJ902: 11: @EXTHE

Re: /usr/share/perl5/Publican/TreeView.pm has problem in runtime

Please do not post html formatted mails to the mailing list. On Fri, Jan 31, 2025 at 01:43:52PM +0330, Mohsen Pahlevanzadeh wrote: > Hello , > > > When I‌ run publican version 4.3.2-4 on debian unstable, I get the following > error message: > > # > > > mohs

Re: mc problem with EXTDIRHELPER variable

On 1/31/25 7:51 AM, Frank McCormick wrote: Noticed this morning that  Midnight Commander doesn't open zip or pdf files aaymore. It appears that a variable @EXTDIRHELPER@ is not being set for some reason. The variable is used in the mc.ext.ini files. Can anyone help ? Upon further inve

mc problem with EXTDIRHELPER variable

Noticed this morning that Midnight Commander doesn't open zip or pdf files aaymore. It appears that a variable @EXTDIRHELPER@ is not being set for some reason. The variable is used in the mc.ext.ini files. Can anyone help ? Thanks -- Frank McCormick

Re: Firefox and Video DRM

On Fri, 2025-01-31 at 21:53 +1100, George at Clug wrote: > > > The same (now that I am using backports): > $ yt-dlp --version > 2025.01.15 Due to the nature of this program (Google plays the cat and mouse game), new versions are released fairly frequently. In fact, 2025.01.26 just landed in book

Re: Ente Auth install problems

On Thu, Jan 30, 2025 at 04:51:18PM +, Andrew M.A. Cater wrote: > On Thu, Jan 30, 2025 at 04:14:00PM +, Michael wrote: > > Thanks very much for your help and suggestions. > > > > I am running Debian 12 on a desktop. > > > > My aim is to set up and use a TOTP authenticator app called Ente A

Re: Firefox and Video DRM

On Friday, 31-01-2025 at 21:42 Bret Busby wrote: > On 31/1/25 18:19, George at Clug wrote: > > > > > > On Friday, 31-01-2025 at 20:41 Henrik Ahlgren wrote: > >> On Fri, 2025-01-31 at 19:24 +1100, George at Clug wrote: > >>> I have two answers (which might not be good answers, if so someone may

Re: Zoom

On Fri, Jan 31, 2025 at 01:10:39AM -0800, D MacDougall wrote: [...] > I wholeheatedly agree in principle and in circumstances where one has some > amount of influence. Thing is -- you always have some. Use it. Sometimes it's direct, sometimes via advocacy groups, the best being to combine both.

Re: Firefox and Video DRM

On Friday, 31-01-2025 at 21:30 Bret Busby wrote: > On 31/1/25 16:24, George at Clug wrote: > > > > > > On Friday, 31-01-2025 at 18:57 Bret Busby wrote: > >> On 31/1/25 14:50, George at Clug wrote: > >>> Does anyone use Firefox to watch DRM protected Video content? > >>> > >>> Is it normal for

Re: Firefox and Video DRM

On 31/1/25 18:19, George at Clug wrote: On Friday, 31-01-2025 at 20:41 Henrik Ahlgren wrote: On Fri, 2025-01-31 at 19:24 +1100, George at Clug wrote: I have two answers (which might not be good answers, if so someone may be able to correct me) 1) For some time now yt-dlp has been unable to

Re: Firefox and Video DRM

Thanks for your reply. The DRM that was install, I believe to be Google's as per Firefox's default settings when enabling DRM content. It has been some time since I gave up watching DRM content and was only using it for a few news sites. My current stance is 1) DRM is insecure, 2) Any content

Re: Firefox and Video DRM

On 31/1/25 16:24, George at Clug wrote: On Friday, 31-01-2025 at 18:57 Bret Busby wrote: On 31/1/25 14:50, George at Clug wrote: Does anyone use Firefox to watch DRM protected Video content? Is it normal for DRM to display lots of ads whenever Firefox is loaded? I did enable DRM once, a lon

Re: Firefox and Video DRM

On Friday, 31-01-2025 at 20:41 Henrik Ahlgren wrote: > On Fri, 2025-01-31 at 19:24 +1100, George at Clug wrote: > > I have two answers (which might not be good answers, if so someone may be > > able to correct me) > > > > 1) For some time now yt-dlp has been unable to download videos which I

/usr/share/perl5/Publican/TreeView.pm has problem in runtime

Hello , When I‌ run publican version 4.3.2-4 on debian unstable, I get the following error message: # mohsen@debian:~$ publican Attempt to call undefined import method with arguments ("abs2rel") via p

Re: Zoom

Hi folks, I am following this discussion here with great interest. We all know, that Zoom is not quite secure and we all know, that our data are transferred int the US (where they probably will be processed further on). Thus, many alternatives were mentioned like Jitsi, Jami and BBB. But I won

Re: Firefox and Video DRM

On Fri, 2025-01-31 at 19:24 +1100, George at Clug wrote: > I have two answers (which might not be good answers, if so someone may be > able to correct me) > > 1) For some time now yt-dlp has been unable to download videos which I wanted > to download. If you're on Debian Stable, please be aware

Re: Firefox and Video DRM

On Fri, 2025-01-31 at 17:50 +1100, George at Clug wrote: > > Does anyone use Firefox to watch DRM protected Video content? > > Is it normal for DRM to display lots of ads whenever Firefox is > loaded? Hi! What type(s) of ads are you seeing? In other words, are they for random consumer products

Re: Zoom

On 1/30/25 23:33, to...@tuxteam.de wrote: On Thu, Jan 30, 2025 at 11:02:25PM -0800, D MacDougall wrote: 4. If you want or need to join Zoom meetings that you do not control you [...] Or convince your partners to move to Jitsi. Or BBB. Sometimes that effort works out, and this is *definitel

Re: Firefox and Video DRM

On Friday, 31-01-2025 at 18:57 Bret Busby wrote: > On 31/1/25 14:50, George at Clug wrote: > > Does anyone use Firefox to watch DRM protected Video content? > > > > Is it normal for DRM to display lots of ads whenever Firefox is loaded? > > > > I did enable DRM once, a long time ago, and I sta