Re: kvm/qemu

2025-01-17 Thread George at Clug
On Saturday, 18-01-2025 at 18:01 Richard Hector wrote: > On 8/01/25 12:43, gene heskett wrote: > > Basically, anything starting with a k came from ingo klockers kde desktop. > > Um - I can find one person called Ingo Klöcker, who doesn't appear to > have anything to do with KDE. Wikipedia says

Re: Help with UDF and BluRay disks

2025-01-17 Thread Bob McGowan
On Fri, 2025-01-17 at 23:37 -0800, Bob McGowan wrote: > Hello list, > > I've been trying to figure out how to use my BD disc writer to create > backups of files. > > What I first found were instructions to create an empty file of the > propper size, 'mkudffs file', loop mount it, copy files to it

Help with UDF and BluRay disks

2025-01-17 Thread Bob McGowan
Hello list, I've been trying to figure out how to use my BD disc writer to create backups of files. What I first found were instructions to create an empty file of the propper size, 'mkudffs file', loop mount it, copy files to it, unmount and burn to the BD disc. Doing this resulted in a BD disk

Re: kvm/qemu

2025-01-17 Thread Richard Hector
On 8/01/25 12:43, gene heskett wrote: Basically, anything starting with a k came from ingo klockers kde desktop. Um - I can find one person called Ingo Klöcker, who doesn't appear to have anything to do with KDE. Wikipedia says KDE was founded by Matthias Ettrich. Richard

Re: Are Debian packages updated within a release?

2025-01-17 Thread tomas
On Sat, Jan 18, 2025 at 03:19:16AM +0100, poc...@homemail.com wrote: [...] > Oh I see you would rather stick your fingers in your ears and pretend all is > well. In some cases, that's the right idea, yes. You kind of prove it. > I determine what is right for me, you certainly don't Exactly. T

Re: Are Debian packages updated within a release?

2025-01-17 Thread gene heskett
On 1/17/25 20:30, Max Nikulin wrote: On 18/01/2025 07:34, George at Clug wrote: Would I be correct in assuming this is because the version of Chromium (as in its features) are being updated within  Debian 12 Major browsers are an exception. Security fixes are frequent and massive. The upstr

Re: Are Debian packages updated within a release?

2025-01-17 Thread George at Clug
On Saturday, 18-01-2025 at 12:30 Max Nikulin wrote: > On 18/01/2025 07:34, George at Clug wrote: > > Would I be correct in assuming this is because the version of Chromium > > (as in its features) are being updated within Debian 12 > > Major browsers are an exception. Security fixes are freque

Re: Are Debian packages updated within a release?

2025-01-17 Thread Charles Curley
On Sat, 18 Jan 2025 03:21:48 +0100 poc...@homemail.com wrote: > > Stefan > > > > All your post end up in the spam directory of my account on mail.com. > I need to leave them there. Oh, come on, Pocket. He was trolling you, apparently successfully. Turnabout is fair play. -- Does anyb

Re: Are Debian packages updated within a release?

2025-01-17 Thread Jeffrey Walton
On Fri, Jan 17, 2025 at 8:30 PM Max Nikulin wrote: > > On 18/01/2025 07:34, George at Clug wrote: > > Would I be correct in assuming this is because the version of Chromium > > (as in its features) are being updated within Debian 12 > > Major browsers are an exception. Security fixes are frequent

Re: Are Debian packages updated within a release?

2025-01-17 Thread pocket
> Sent: Friday, January 17, 2025 at 9:10 PM > From: "Stefan Monnier" > To: debian-user@lists.debian.org > Subject: Re: Are Debian packages updated within a release? > > > That is why the rolling release method is superior to the old model > > used by others. > > Yes, and for the same reason non

Re: Are Debian packages updated within a release?

2025-01-17 Thread pocket
> Sent: Friday, January 17, 2025 at 9:10 PM > From: "Roberto C. Sánchez" > To: debian-user@lists.debian.org > Subject: Re: Are Debian packages updated within a release? > > On Sat, Jan 18, 2025 at 02:36:34AM +0100, poc...@homemail.com wrote: > > > > That is why the rolling release method is su

Re: Are Debian packages updated within a release?

2025-01-17 Thread David
On Sat, 18 Jan 2025 at 01:14, George at Clug wrote: > So this means that a patched version from : [...] > deb https://deb.debian.org/debian/ bookworm-backports main contrib non-free > non-free-firmware [...] > Was copied into debian-security as in: > deb https://security.debian.org/debian-se

Re: Are Debian packages updated within a release?

2025-01-17 Thread Roberto C . Sánchez
On Sat, Jan 18, 2025 at 02:36:34AM +0100, poc...@homemail.com wrote: > > That is why the rolling release method is superior to the old model used by > others. > s/superior/different/ > > Most rolling release distributions do the same and you get the latest > updates, features and fixes > We

Re: Are Debian packages updated within a release?

2025-01-17 Thread Stefan Monnier
> That is why the rolling release method is superior to the old model > used by others. Yes, and for the same reason non-rolling release distributions of GNU/Linux don't exist. Actually, for that same fundamental reason, there is only one GNU/Linux distribution (the one that "is superior").

Re: Are Debian packages updated within a release?

2025-01-17 Thread Roberto C . Sánchez
On Sat, Jan 18, 2025 at 12:14:16PM +1100, George at Clug wrote: > > I rarely use backports, but when I do, I like the "adjusted and > recompiled for usage on Debian stable" part, much better that grabbing > packages from other distributions and just installing them, hoping > there will not be issu

Re: Are Debian packages updated within a release?

2025-01-17 Thread pocket
> Sent: Friday, January 17, 2025 at 8:30 PM > From: "Max Nikulin" > To: debian-user@lists.debian.org > Subject: Re: Are Debian packages updated within a release? > > On 18/01/2025 07:34, George at Clug wrote: > > Would I be correct in assuming this is because the version of Chromium > > (as in

Re: Are Debian packages updated within a release?

2025-01-17 Thread Max Nikulin
On 18/01/2025 07:34, George at Clug wrote: Would I be correct in assuming this is because the version of Chromium (as in its features) are being updated within Debian 12 Major browsers are an exception. Security fixes are frequent and massive. The upstream teams do not maintain stable version

Re: Are Debian packages updated within a release?

2025-01-17 Thread George at Clug
On Saturday, 18-01-2025 at 11:47 John Hasler wrote: > In the case of rsync Debian backported a fix. Therefor it gets the old > version number with a suffix to indicate that Debian patched it. In the > case of chromium upstream patched it and released the patched version > with a new version nu

Re: Are Debian packages updated within a release?

2025-01-17 Thread John Hasler
In the case of rsync Debian backported a fix. Therefor it gets the old version number with a suffix to indicate that Debian patched it. In the case of chromium upstream patched it and released the patched version with a new version number. -- John Hasler j...@sugarbit.com Elmwood, WI USA

Re: Are Debian packages updated within a release?

2025-01-17 Thread George at Clug
Hi all, I became confused by comments on version numbers from the rsync discussion. Rsync CVE-2024-12085 https://security-tracker.debian.org/tracker/CVE-2024-12085 bookworm (security) 3.2.7-1+deb12u2 fixed I am still not sure but this is how I understand version numbering for rsync: While

Are Debian packages updated within a release?

2025-01-17 Thread George at Clug
Hi, Are Debian packages updated within a release? After running: "# apt update" # apt list -a linux-image-amd64 Listing... Done linux-image-amd64/stable-backports 6.11.10-1~bpo12+1 amd64 linux-image-amd64/stable-updates 6.1.124-1 amd64 [upgradable from: 6.1.106-3] linux-image-amd64/stable 6.1.

Re: A warning about rsync in stable: it became broken 3 days ago, is now fixed

2025-01-17 Thread Andrew M.A. Cater
On Fri, Jan 17, 2025 at 10:57:53PM +0100, poc...@homemail.com wrote: > > Has the following been Fixed or back ported to 3.2.7? > > fixed handling of -⁠H flag with conflict in internal flag values > > fixed a user after free in logging of failed rename > > fixed build on systems without openat()

Re: A warning about rsync in stable: it became broken 3 days ago, is now fixed

2025-01-17 Thread Michael Stone
On Fri, Jan 17, 2025 at 10:57:53PM +0100, poc...@homemail.com wrote: Has the following been Fixed or back ported to 3.2.7? Stop trolling. If you want to use arch, go use arch and be happy.

Re: A warning about rsync in stable: it became broken 3 days ago, is now fixed

2025-01-17 Thread pocket
> Sent: Friday, January 17, 2025 at 2:11 PM > From: "Andy Smith" > To: debian-user@lists.debian.org > Subject: Re: A warning about rsync in stable: it became broken 3 days ago, is > now fixed > > Hi, > > On Fri, Jan 17, 2025 at 03:42:48AM +0100, poc...@homemail.com wrote: > > > From: "Andy Sm

Re: A warning about rsync in stable: it became broken 3 days ago, is now fixed

2025-01-17 Thread Andy Smith
Hi, On Fri, Jan 17, 2025 at 03:42:48AM +0100, poc...@homemail.com wrote: > > From: "Andy Smith" > > You can verify this at: > > > > https://security-tracker.debian.org/tracker/source-package/rsync > > https://www.cisecurity.org/advisory/multiple-vulnerabilities-in-rsync-could-allow-for-remot

Re: Nvidia packages kept back

2025-01-17 Thread Livio C.
Hi Charles, Do you mean that it should/could happen that, at a certain point, the "kept-back" packages will be upgraded by just using "apt upgrade"? Best, Livio On Fri, Jan 17, 2025 at 5:48 AM Charles Kroeger wrote: > This is probably related to needful dependencies not yet available, or > ava

Re: A warning about rsync in stable: it became broken 3 days ago, is now fixed

2025-01-17 Thread Kevin Chadwick
17 Jan 2025 14:33:05 Roberto C. Sánchez : > Others, for various reasons, choose a stable distribution to which > security patches are backported. In particular Debian testing shouldn't be recommended to users as it is the least likely to have security patches!

Re: Monitoring a single process

2025-01-17 Thread Max Nikulin
On 17/01/2025 11:56, Stefan Monnier wrote: One of my main uses is when a tool is sitting there without giving me any feedback and I'm wondering what it is that it's doing. E.g. recently this occurred with `bup`, where I wanted to see if it was mostly talking to the remote `bup`, or mostly reading

Re: A warning about rsync in stable: it became broken 3 days ago, is now fixed

2025-01-17 Thread Roberto C . Sánchez
On Fri, Jan 17, 2025 at 12:55:19PM +0100, poc...@homemail.com wrote: > > > > Sent: Thursday, January 16, 2025 at 10:34 PM > > From: "Stefan Monnier" > > To: debian-user@lists.debian.org > > Subject: Re: A warning about rsync in stable: it became broken 3 days ago, > > is now fixed > > > > > Why

Re: A warning about rsync in stable: it became broken 3 days ago, is now fixed

2025-01-17 Thread pocket
> Sent: Thursday, January 16, 2025 at 10:34 PM > From: "Stefan Monnier" > To: debian-user@lists.debian.org > Subject: Re: A warning about rsync in stable: it became broken 3 days ago, is > now fixed > > > Why use 3 year old rsync? > > If you can't answer this question, then you probably will b

Re: Monitoring a single process

2025-01-17 Thread Michel Verdier
On 2025-01-16, Stefan Monnier wrote: > E.g. recently this occurred with `bup`, where I wanted to see if it was > mostly talking to the remote `bup`, or mostly reading local files or > writing local files (so as to guess in which phase > it is, and whether it's making progress), or none of the abov