Re: Page fault on Trixie kernel?

2025-01-16 Thread Boyan Penkov
Apropos this, can anybody point to docs on what the user-facing differences are between using Nvidia' proprietary driver, and their slowe drift towards the open driver: https://packages.debian.org/sid/nvidia-open-kernel-source ? Cheers! On Fri, Jan 17, 2025 at 1:05 AM Steve Litt wrote: > > You j

Re: British English has disappeared

2025-01-16 Thread Charles Kroeger
I thought they were coming closer after Brexit and all. They are going to start importing all that chlorinated beef and chicken the EU wouldn't allow. This will be cheaper in the stores than English beef. (it's an old story) Maybe they will want to vote next to becoming part of the USA. I doubt Ca

Re: Monitoring a single process

2025-01-16 Thread Stefan Monnier
Thank you for all your answers, this pointed me to tools I was not aware of and to options I was not aware of in tools I knew. `lsof` seems able to give me a lot of info, but has so many options that I haven't yet found a way to give me something more or less useful. But at least I now know that i

Re: Nvidia packages kept back

2025-01-16 Thread Charles Kroeger
This is probably related to needful dependencies not yet available, or available somewhere else. This problem is always sorted out by the passing of time. How much you want to wait is subjective to you I would think. Time is the revelator. -- C.

Re: A warning about rsync in stable: it became broken 3 days ago, is now fixed

2025-01-16 Thread Stefan Monnier
> Why use 3 year old rsync? If you can't answer this question, then you probably will be better served with Debian testing, Debian unstable, or even some other distribution than Debian stable. Stefan

Re: A warning about rsync in stable: it became broken 3 days ago, is now fixed

2025-01-16 Thread pocket
> Sent: Thursday, January 16, 2025 at 9:36 PM > From: "Andy Smith" > To: debian-user@lists.debian.org > Subject: Re: A warning about rsync in stable: it became broken 3 days ago, is > now fixed > > Hi, > > On Fri, Jan 17, 2025 at 03:27:26AM +0100, poc...@homemail.com wrote: > > Actually the la

Re: A warning about rsync in stable: it became broken 3 days ago, is now fixed

2025-01-16 Thread Andy Smith
Hi, On Fri, Jan 17, 2025 at 03:27:26AM +0100, poc...@homemail.com wrote: > Actually the last patched debian rsync version is still vulnerable > https://kb.cert.org/vuls/id/952657 > > rsync 3.4.1 is the latest version that fixes the issues. That page was last updated 15 January whereas the fixes

Re: A warning about rsync in stable: it became broken 3 days ago, is now fixed

2025-01-16 Thread pocket
> Sent: Thursday, January 16, 2025 at 6:40 PM > From: "David" > To: "debian-user" > Subject: A warning about rsync in stable: it became broken 3 days ago, is now > fixed > > Hi, > > For anyone not subscribed to debian-security-announce mailing list: > > 1) You should subscribe to it :) > > 2)

Nvidia packages kept back

2025-01-16 Thread Livio C.
I have Debian 12 installed on a server with NVIDIA ADA RTX4500 GPUs (used for machine learning with Tensorflow via Docker images). When I upgrade ("sudo apt upgrade"), I get the message that a number of packages (all related to Nvidia) have been "kept back". I am not sure what to do: should I upgr

A warning about rsync in stable: it became broken 3 days ago, is now fixed

2025-01-16 Thread David
Hi, For anyone not subscribed to debian-security-announce mailing list: 1) You should subscribe to it :) 2) rsync received a security update 3 days ago [1] with multiple fixes. 3) But that update also introduced a regression in the rsync -H option (preserves hard links). 4) That regression

Re: Debian 12 linking issue with libvukan (undefined reference) with GNU C++ compiler/ld

2025-01-16 Thread Johannes Krottmayer
Hello Greg! On 1/16/25 21:31, Greg Wooledge wrote: > On Thu, Jan 16, 2025 at 20:27:17 +, Johannes Krottmayer wrote: >> $ g++ -lvulkan -o test test.cpp > > If I recall correctly, the library options need to be *after* the object > files that use them. Thus: > > g++ -o test test.cpp -lvu

Re: Debian 12 linking issue with libvukan (undefined reference) with GNU C++ compiler/ld

2025-01-16 Thread Greg Wooledge
On Thu, Jan 16, 2025 at 20:27:17 +, Johannes Krottmayer wrote: > $ g++ -lvulkan -o test test.cpp If I recall correctly, the library options need to be *after* the object files that use them. Thus: g++ -o test test.cpp -lvulkan

Debian 12 linking issue with libvukan (undefined reference) with GNU C++ compiler/ld

2025-01-16 Thread Johannes Krottmayer
Hello, I have encountered an issue when trying to compile and link against libvulkan with the GNU C++ compiler and GNU ld. Get 'undefined reference' errors on all library calls with: $ g++ -lvulkan -o test test.cpp The related package is installed on my system (also the development package libvu

Re: What is going on with firefox

2025-01-16 Thread John Hasler
Roy J. Tellason, Sr. writes: > I run [both uBlock-origin and NoScript], here. Noscript being the > most recently added. It does make a nontrivial difference... Likewise. -- John Hasler j...@sugarbit.com Elmwood, WI USA

Re: What is going on with firefox

2025-01-16 Thread Roy J. Tellason, Sr.
On Wednesday 15 January 2025 09:49:15 pm Max Nikulin wrote: > > On 14/01/2025 17:11, Jean-François Bachelet wrote: > > btw, you need to install noscripts from the extensions panel AND UBlock > > origin or Adblock plus at least if you want to get rid of all ads and > > javascripts code that have

Re: Page fault on Trixie kernel?

2025-01-16 Thread Boyan Penkov
This seems to have been it -- no crashes since the morning... Thanks, folks -- will wait for https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=1089513 to get closed... Thanks kindly, and cheers! On Thu, Jan 16, 2025 at 9:53 AM Rafał Lichwała wrote: > > See my post on "debian testing" mailing li

Re: NVME - slower speed with deactivated UEFI?

2025-01-16 Thread Stefan Monnier
>>Now I heard of, that a NVME drive will only get to full speed, if UEFI is >>activated in BIOS. Is this correct? > No, at least for linux; I can't speak to windows. +1 Stefan

Re: What is going on with firefox

2025-01-16 Thread Dan Ritter
Max Nikulin wrote: > > On 14/01/2025 17:11, Jean-François Bachelet wrote: > > btw, you need to install noscripts from the extensions panel AND UBlock > > origin or Adblock plus at least if you want to get rid of all ads and > > javascripts code that have nothing to with the actual content of the

Re: NVME - slower speed with deactivated UEFI?

2025-01-16 Thread Hans
> New machines may not have "legacy/MBR" options to boot any more. > Mine is a used one, a Dell 5400, and luckily it can still use legacy boot. > A straightforward new installation of Debian should create the ESP and > appropriate means to install under UEFI. If you're installing Windows, > then

Re: NVME - slower speed with deactivated UEFI?

2025-01-16 Thread Hans
> Be sure not to reboot after cloning while both source and target remain > enabled. I always shut down the device completely. then wait a few seaconds. disconnect all drives (Lifefile usb drive and storage) and then start the machine again. In the past I never had any issues doing so. Cheers

Re: NVME - slower speed with deactivated UEFI?

2025-01-16 Thread Andrew M.A. Cater
On Thu, Jan 16, 2025 at 04:17:29PM +0100, Hans wrote: > Hi folks, > > I got a new notebook with an NVME drive. > > As all my BIOS never needed UEFI, my installation dula boot of Windows and > Debian are all without UEFI. > New machines may not have "legacy/MBR" options to boot any more. > Th

Re: NVME - slower speed with deactivated UEFI?

2025-01-16 Thread Felix Miata
Hans composed on 2025-01-16 16:57 (UTC+0100): >> That depends on how you describe partitions in /etc/fstab. If you use >> the device name, then almost certainly yes. If you use the label or >> UUID, then no. > Oh, that is cool, as I am using only UUID in fstab. Thus, just clone the > drive > wi

Re: *****SPAM***** Re: NVME - slower speed with deactivated UEFI?

2025-01-16 Thread Hans
> Those are created at boot time, by udev. I unde5rstand. > > That depends on how you describe partitions in /etc/fstab. If you use > the device name, then almost certainly yes. If you use the label or > UUID, then no. > Oh, that is cool, as I am using only UUID in fstab. Thus, just clone the d

Re: Re: nvidia driver not loaded after install

2025-01-16 Thread Anil F Duggirala
Thanks Dan, I disabled Secure Boot and sure enough, the driver was loaded. I actually decided to make a clean install of Debian on this machine and left Secure boot disabled. I tried multiple times and was unable to get the driver to load. This is strange however because it did work before. I w

Re: NVME - slower speed with deactivated UEFI?

2025-01-16 Thread Charles Curley
On Thu, 16 Jan 2025 16:17:29 +0100 Hans wrote: > Another question, not really important: The device names, like > "/dev/hdX", "/ dev/sdX" and now "/dev/nvmeX" - who is creating these? > The kernel? Must /etc/ fstab be manually changed, when changing the > kind of harddrive? Those are created at

Re: NVME - slower speed with deactivated UEFI?

2025-01-16 Thread Michael Stone
On Thu, Jan 16, 2025 at 04:17:29PM +0100, Hans wrote: Now I heard of, that a NVME drive will only get to full speed, if UEFI is activated in BIOS. Is this correct? No, at least for linux; I can't speak to windows. Another question, not really important: The device names, like "/dev/hdX", "/ d

Re: NVME - slower speed with deactivated UEFI?

2025-01-16 Thread Charles Curley
On Thu, 16 Jan 2025 16:17:29 +0100 Hans wrote: > I am asking, because if NOT, than it would spare me a lot of work, to > create an UEFI partituion, rewrite the bootloaders, fstab, > configurations and so on. The Debian installer (the installer on the netinst CD, not the live CD) will cheerfully

NVME - slower speed with deactivated UEFI?

2025-01-16 Thread Hans
Hi folks, I got a new notebook with an NVME drive. As all my BIOS never needed UEFI, my installation dula boot of Windows and Debian are all without UEFI. Thus, it was easy for me, cloning debian to any other hardware in the past to a ssd drive. Now I heard of, that a NVME drive will only ge

Re: Page fault on Trixie kernel?

2025-01-16 Thread Rafał Lichwała
See my post on "debian testing" mailing list: https://lists.debian.org/debian-testing/2025/01/msg1.html Nvidia drivers have problem with kernel 6.12.* (which is now current kernel version in Trixie) Downgrade to the last available 6.11.* and it works fine. Regards, Rafal On 16.01.2025

Re: Page fault on Trixie kernel?

2025-01-16 Thread nmanca
As far as I know there are some problems with the 6.12 kernel and nvidia drivers. I read by chance this post: https://kenhys.hatenablog.jp/entry/2025/01/13/172405 a couple of days later I installed trixie on a machine mounting a GTX750Ti and actually the login manager didn't started, the conso

Re: Page fault on Trixie kernel?

2025-01-16 Thread Boyan Penkov
Hello Nmanca, Sorry, I don't quite follow... The hardware is a GTX 1080 Ti. Are you saying that nvidia 535.216.03 from testing is known not to work with this model? Recompling the same -- using dkms -- for the 6.1 kernel has booted OK, and so daf has not crashed... (like 2 hours or so..). Che

Re: Syntax error in type_traits

2025-01-16 Thread Jesper Dybdal
On 2025-01-16 13:07, Greg Wooledge wrote: On Thu, Jan 16, 2025 at 12:38:29 +0100, Jesper Dybdal wrote: There is a syntax error (an erroneous ">" character) in     /usr/include/c++/12/type_traits in Bookworm.   So compiling any program that includes the header fails: echo "#include " >error.c

Re: Page fault on Trixie kernel?

2025-01-16 Thread nmanca
Hallo, I saw you loaded nvidia driver. in Trixie they do not work (v. 535 on a GTX750Ti), after downloading the kernel to 6.1.0-29 (from stable), X loaded with no problems. Maybe it's related to that? Cheers! On 16/01/2025 13:32, Boyan Penkov wrote: Confirming that downgrading to 6.1.0-29 f

Re: Page fault on Trixie kernel?

2025-01-16 Thread Boyan Penkov
Confirming that downgrading to 6.1.0-29 from Bookworm makes this go away... Cheers! On Thu, Jan 16, 2025 at 7:19 AM Boyan Penkov wrote: > > Hello, > > Anybody seeing the attached page fault in dmesg on the Trixie kernel? > > Cheers! > > -- > Boyan Penkov -- Boyan Penkov

Re: Syntax error in type_traits

2025-01-16 Thread Greg Wooledge
On Thu, Jan 16, 2025 at 12:38:29 +0100, Jesper Dybdal wrote: > There is a syntax error (an erroneous ">" character) in >     /usr/include/c++/12/type_traits > in Bookworm.   So compiling any program that includes the header > fails: > > echo "#include " >error.cpp > g++ -c error.cpp > > Results

Page fault on Trixie kernel?

2025-01-16 Thread Boyan Penkov
Hello, Anybody seeing the attached page fault in dmesg on the Trixie kernel? Cheers! -- Boyan Penkov [ 2059.005772] BUG: unable to handle page fault for address: e5a98000 [ 2059.005779] #PF: supervisor read access in kernel mode [ 2059.005782] #PF: error_code(0x) - not-present page

Re: Syntax error in type_traits

2025-01-16 Thread Andy Smith
Hi Jesper, On Thu, Jan 16, 2025 at 12:38:29PM +0100, Jesper Dybdal wrote: > There is a syntax error (an erroneous ">" character) in >     /usr/include/c++/12/type_traits > in Bookworm. I do not experience this on my Debian 12. > > In file included from /usr/include/c++/12/bits/char_traits.h:42,

Re: about output from mount

2025-01-16 Thread Greg Wooledge
On Thu, Jan 16, 2025 at 13:18:53 +0200, Anssi Saari wrote: > Urs Thuermann writes: > > mount | fgrep -vf <(awk '/^nodev/{print $2}' /proc/filesystems) > > Thanks. It has the benefit of not showing autofs, for example. But how > to quote that for an alias? The simplest way is *not* to use an alia

Syntax error in type_traits

2025-01-16 Thread Jesper Dybdal
There is a syntax error (an erroneous ">" character) in     /usr/include/c++/12/type_traits in Bookworm.   So compiling any program that includes the header fails: echo "#include " >error.cpp g++ -c error.cpp Results in: In file included from /usr/include/c++/12/bits/char_traits.h:42,  

Re: about output from mount

2025-01-16 Thread Anssi Saari
Urs Thuermann writes: > Felix Miata writes: > >> I have the following in ~/.bashrc for making that easier: >> >> alias Mnt='mount | egrep -v "cgroup|rpc|ramfs|tmpfs|^sys|on /dev|on /proc|on >> /sys|on /var" | sort ' > > mount | fgrep -vf <(awk '/^nodev/{print $2}' /proc/filesystems) Thanks. I