Greg Wooledge composed on 2024-12-05 21:41 (UTC-0500):
> Assuming you use GRUB (I don't know whether a "MacBook pro 2014" is an
> amd64 system), you should be able to interrupt the boot sequence, press
Apple didn't drop Intel CPUs until 2023. My iMac 2007 is an Intel 64 bit.
> the 'e' key to edi
On 12/5/24 18:03, nsrxnst wrote:
while I was at work, chaos happened in my house. my wife cleaned my office, and
her nephew locked himself in there.
my Debian install has never been ideal: the GUI is spotty, but the underlying
system has always functioned just fine, and to that extent, I have
On 12/5/24 21:39, nsrxnst wrote:
> booted a live USB. one of the partitions is now of type "swsuspend". my
> sleuthing has led me to decide it's a corrupted fs.
>
> how do I go about recovering this???
If you do something like
mount /dev/sda1 /mnt/temp -o ro -t ext4
(modify as appropriate)
doe
On 06/12/2024 05:58, Felix Miata wrote:
Felix Miata composed on 2024-12-05 17:52 (UTC-0500):
Here ya go (Pastebinit on Bookworm refuses to accept images.):
https://paste.opensuse.org/a556a79e8015
expires in 7 days, shows DFSee menu open for "Convert an MBR disk to GPT".
Oops. My mistake. Tabl
On Thu, Dec 5, 2024 at 8:57 PM Felix Miata wrote:
>
> Michael Stone composed on 2024-12-05 16:51 (UTC-0500):
>
> > On Thu, Dec 05, 2024 at 16:16:53 -0500, Felix Miata wrote:
>
> >>At least one does. I provided URL to the one I use, for some definition of
> >>"automated", upthread @2024-12-05 12:24
On 12/5/24 21:03, nsrxnst wrote:
> upon selecting the appropriate option from grub, manually or
> automatically, it begins the boot process, displays errors too fast to
> comprehend,
You may be able to read the errors if you video-record the screen during
boot (higher fps=better) then single-step
On Thu, Dec 05, 2024 at 21:03:45 -0500, nsrxnst wrote:
> my Debian install has never been ideal: the GUI is spotty, [...]
> upon selecting the appropriate option from grub, manually or automatically,
> it begins the boot process, displays errors too fast to comprehend, and the
> screen goes to a
aha.
booted a live USB. one of the partitions is now of type "swsuspend". my
sleuthing has led me to decide it's a corrupted fs.
how do I go about recovering this???
On December 5, 2024 9:03:45 PM EST, nsrxnst wrote:
>while I was at work, chaos happened in my house. my wife cleaned my office,
while I was at work, chaos happened in my house. my wife cleaned my office, and
her nephew locked himself in there.
my Debian install has never been ideal: the GUI is spotty, but the underlying
system has always functioned just fine, and to that extent, I have used it as a
home server.
it was
On 12/5/24 10:33, Erwan David wrote:
On Thu, Dec 05, 2024 at 04:26:18PM CET, Max Nikulin said:
On 05/12/2024 16:19, Jörg-Volker Peetz wrote:
1. SSD's have some self healing capacities (discarding defect sectors)
which are performed when the drive is not mounted. Therefore, enter the
BIOS of th
On Thu 05 Dec 2024 at 16:26:45 (-0500), Felix Miata wrote:
> pocket composed on 2024-12-05 22:17 (UTC+0100):
>
> > The real issue is that the efi partition if I recall correctly has to be a
> > primary partition.
>
> The ESP filesystem must be on a GPT partition. GPT is compatible with
> legacy
On Thu 05 Dec 2024 at 22:03:52 (+), Andrew M.A. Cater wrote:
> On Thu, Dec 05, 2024 at 03:15:36PM -0600, David Wright wrote:
> > On Thu 05 Dec 2024 at 20:01:29 (+), Andrew M.A. Cater wrote:
> >
> > > Use the Microsoft tools to create a Windows .iso file
> > >
> > > Install Windows from a
On 12/5/24 17:26, Michael Stone wrote:
> On Thu, Dec 05, 2024 at 04:06:17PM -0500, e...@gmx.us wrote:
>> To find out if the motherboard imposed any limitations, I checked the
>> manual. I found these tables, which I can't see the implications of:
>>
>> M2D_32G M.2 connector
>> +-+--
Felix Miata composed on 2024-12-05 17:52 (UTC-0500):
> Michael Stone composed on 2024-12-05 16:51 (UTC-0500):
>> On Thu, Dec 05, 2024 at 16:16:53 -0500, Felix Miata wrote:
>>>At least one does. I provided URL to the one I use, for some definition of
>>>"automated", upthread @2024-12-05 12:24 (UT
Michael Stone composed on 2024-12-05 16:51 (UTC-0500):
> On Thu, Dec 05, 2024 at 16:16:53 -0500, Felix Miata wrote:
>>At least one does. I provided URL to the one I use, for some definition of
>>"automated", upthread @2024-12-05 12:24 (UTC-0500) in reply to your post 102
>>minutes earlier. :)
>
On Thu, Dec 05, 2024 at 10:03:52PM +, Andrew M.A. Cater wrote:
2. Use gparted to move Windows (maybe apart from the EFI partition) to the
end of the drive - move the blank space to the front of the drive after
the EFI partiton.
I don't understand this step--why are you moving windows? L
On Thu, Dec 05, 2024 at 04:06:17PM -0500, e...@gmx.us wrote:
To find out if the motherboard imposed any limitations, I checked the
manual. I found these tables, which I can't see the implications of:
M2D_32G M.2 connector
+-+-+-+-+-+-+-
On Thu, 5 Dec 2024 22:03:52 +
"Andrew M.A. Cater" wrote:
> 2. Use gparted to move Windows (maybe apart from the EFI partition)
> to the end of the drive - move the blank space to the front of the
> drive after the EFI partiton.
OK, my curiosity is up. Why make a point of moving the Windows
p
On Thu, Dec 05, 2024 at 03:15:36PM -0600, David Wright wrote:
> On Thu 05 Dec 2024 at 20:01:29 (+), Andrew M.A. Cater wrote:
>
> > Use the Microsoft tools to create a Windows .iso file
> >
> > Install Windows from a .iso file. Use Windows drive tools to shrink Windows
> > on the drive to make
Felix Miata (12024-12-05):
> Where else is possible?
Depends on the firmware, of course. If you try to put a GPT on the drive
of a Lenovo Miix 3-1030, it will not boot.
Regards,
--
Nicolas George
On Thu, Dec 05, 2024 at 04:16:53PM -0500, Felix Miata wrote:
At least one does. I provided URL to the one I use, for some definition of
"automated", upthread @2024-12-05 12:24 (UTC-0500) in reply to your post 102
minutes earlier. :)
Automated means something along the lines of "make this mbr di
Michael Stone composed on 2024-12-05 14:50 (UTC-0500):
> On Thu, Dec 05, 2024 at 02:15:13PM -0500, Felix Miata wrote:
>>I have more than 40 PCs with well in excess of a dozen installed distros,
>>each on
>>a partition,
> You have a unique set of requirements. Probably that has little
> releva
Nicolas George composed on 2024-12-05 22:28 (UTC+0100):
> Felix Miata:
>> The ESP filesystem must be on a GPT partition.
> Not always.
Where else is possible?
--
Evolution as taught in public schools is, like religion,
based on faith, not based on science.
Team OS/2 ** Reg. Linux Use
Felix Miata (12024-12-05):
> The ESP filesystem must be on a GPT partition.
Not always.
Regards,
--
Nicolas George
pocket composed on 2024-12-05 22:17 (UTC+0100):
> The real issue is that the efi partition if I recall correctly has to be a
> primary partition.
The ESP filesystem must be on a GPT partition. GPT is compatible with
legacy/BIOS
booting, but not the other way around. It exists because UEFI requi
On 12/5/24 08:55, Klaus Singvogel wrote:
gene heskett wrote:
On 12/5/24 06:59, Klaus Singvogel wrote:
It can be fixed by a Firmware upgrade, and more recently charges of Samsung SSD
980 PRO are flashed/sold with a good Firmware out-of-the-box.
While I am saying that my results with earlier S
On Thu 05 Dec 2024 at 21:01:12 (+0800), hlyg wrote:
> On 12/2/24 19:21, hlyg wrote:
> >
> > Thank Wright!
> >
> > i install inxi and run it:
> >
> > model: Logitech Wireless Keyboard
> > charge: 55% (should be ignored) status: discharging
> > model: Logitech Wireless Mouse
> > charge: 5% (shou
> Sent: Thursday, December 05, 2024 at 2:24 PM
> From: "Hans"
> To: debian-user@lists.debian.org
> Subject: Re: From SSD to NVME
>
> Hi folks,
>
> as promised I send you my experiences with cloning to NVME.
>
> So, today I got my new notebook. As I never used UEFI, I disabled UEFI in BIOS
> (my
On Thu 05 Dec 2024 at 20:01:29 (+), Andrew M.A. Cater wrote:
> Use the Microsoft tools to create a Windows .iso file
>
> Install Windows from a .iso file. Use Windows drive tools to shrink Windows
> on the drive to make some space.
>
> Then use something like gparted to move the Windows to t
On Thu 05 Dec 2024 at 20:24:05 (+0100), Hans wrote:
> So, today I got my new notebook. As I never used UEFI, I disabled UEFI in
> BIOS
> (my first mistake!), then cloned everything to the new drive.
Why did you stick with MBR partitioning rather than GPT?
> Now I am hasseling with the drive, a
On 12/5/24 13:07, Michael Stone wrote:
> On Thu, Dec 05, 2024 at 10:55:48AM -0500, e...@gmx.us wrote:
>> How do I tell how many lanes a given drive uses (preferably before purchase)?
>
> It would be buried in the technical docs. I've only seen 4x drives (but I'm
> sure there may be some cheaper dri
Aargh! I just discovered, the seller did not send the notebook as ordered. I
ordered with NVME and he sent with a SATA SSD (checked the SSD, and yes, it
has TWO nicks, which should be one (for NVME).
Tomorrow I will contact the seller and maybe return the notebook.
However, I will keep you inf
On Thu, Dec 05, 2024 at 08:24:05PM +0100, Hans wrote:
What can I do? I would like to keep the existing partitions. However, I could
shrink them. At the moment, my drive looks at this:
primary partition Windows-boot ntfs
primary partition Windows ntfs
primary partition /boot /dev/sda3 ext4
exte
On Thu, Dec 05, 2024 at 08:24:05PM +0100, Hans wrote:
> Hi folks,
>
> as promised I send you my experiences with cloning to NVME.
>
> So, today I got my new notebook. As I never used UEFI, I disabled UEFI in
> BIOS
> (my first mistake!), then cloned everything to the new drive.
>
> Firts reboo
On Thu, Dec 05, 2024 at 05:22:50PM +, Chris Green wrote:
As I understand it the slots in the M2 SSD connector can tell whether
it's SATA or NVMe or both. I have an M2 SSD which I believe will work
either with a SATA connection or with NVMe, and it has two slots in
its connector.
The M.2 dr
On Thu, Dec 05, 2024 at 02:15:13PM -0500, Felix Miata wrote:
I have more than 40 PCs with well in excess of a dozen installed distros, each
on
a partition,
You have a unique set of requirements. Probably that has little
relevance to basically anyone else.
> As I understand it the slots in the M2 SSD connector can tell whether
> it's SATA or NVMe or both. I have an M2 SSD which I believe will work
> either with a SATA connection or with NVMe, and it has two slots in
> its connector.
IIUC the M.2 slot into which you insert the SSD can support either
On Thu, Dec 5, 2024 at 2:24 PM Hans wrote:
>
> as promised I send you my experiences with cloning to NVME.
>
> So, today I got my new notebook. As I never used UEFI, I disabled UEFI in BIOS
> (my first mistake!), then cloned everything to the new drive.
>
> Firts reboot worked well, no problems. B
Hi folks,
as promised I send you my experiences with cloning to NVME.
So, today I got my new notebook. As I never used UEFI, I disabled UEFI in BIOS
(my first mistake!), then cloned everything to the new drive.
Firts reboot worked well, no problems. But then I realized, that if you want
NVME m
Michael Stone composed on 2024-12-05 13:13 (UTC-0500):
> On Thu, Dec 05, 2024 at 12:24:36PM -0500, Felix Miata wrote:
>>Clearly, because it's a seriously inept volume LABEL selection. Among the
>>following are some better, yet easy enough to remember and type, examples:
>># egrep -i 'deb11|deb 11
On Thu, Dec 05, 2024 at 12:24:36PM -0500, Felix Miata wrote:
Clearly, because it's a seriously inept volume LABEL selection. Among the
following are some better, yet easy enough to remember and type, examples:
# egrep -i 'deb11|deb 11|seye|bull|debian11|debian 11' *L*txt | grep ├─ | wc -l
26
# eg
On Thu, Dec 05, 2024 at 10:55:48AM -0500, e...@gmx.us wrote:
How do I tell how many lanes a given drive uses (preferably before purchase)?
It would be buried in the technical docs. I've only seen 4x drives (but
I'm sure there may be some cheaper drives with fewer). On the
motherboard side it'
On Thu, Dec 05, 2024 at 10:26:18PM +0700, Max Nikulin wrote:
On 05/12/2024 16:19, Jörg-Volker Peetz wrote:
1. SSD's have some self healing capacities (discarding defect
sectors) which are performed when the drive is not mounted.
Therefore, enter the BIOS of the computer and let it running for c
Dan Ritter wrote:
> Stefan Monnier wrote:
> > >> That is a SATA SSD, not an NVMe.
> > > Interesting, thanks. Apparently either it was misrepresented to me, or I
> > > misremembered. That explains some stuff.
> >
> > The switch from SATA to the NVMe interface/protocol happened basically
> > at
Michael Stone composed on 2024-12-05 10:42 (UTC-0500):
>>https://wiki.debian.org/fstab#Labels
> I personally prefer UUIDs because the odds of an existing drive from a
> different system having a conflicting UUID when you put it in another
> system is near zero while the odds that another drive
>> "M.2 => NVMe" (the implication is currently true in the other
>> direction, tho, AFAIK).
> Not at all. We have many servers with U.2 and U.3 format disks,
> which look like classic 2.5" SSDs but use NVMe PCIe connections.
Aha! Thanks for setting me straight!
Stefan
Stefan Monnier wrote:
> >> That is a SATA SSD, not an NVMe.
> > Interesting, thanks. Apparently either it was misrepresented to me, or I
> > misremembered. That explains some stuff.
>
> The switch from SATA to the NVMe interface/protocol happened basically
> at the same time as the switch from
>> That is a SATA SSD, not an NVMe.
> Interesting, thanks. Apparently either it was misrepresented to me, or I
> misremembered. That explains some stuff.
The switch from SATA to the NVMe interface/protocol happened basically
at the same time as the switch from the 2.5" (and mini-pcie) to the M.2
Hi,
On Thu, Dec 05, 2024 at 04:32:30PM +0100, Erwan David wrote:
> On Thu, Dec 05, 2024 at 04:26:18PM CET, Max Nikulin
> said:
> > On 05/12/2024 16:19, Jörg-Volker Peetz wrote:
> > > 1. SSD's have some self healing capacities (discarding defect sectors)
> > > which are performed when the drive i
On 12/5/24 09:59, Michael Stone wrote:
> On Thu, Dec 05, 2024 at 09:42:08AM -0500, e...@gmx.us wrote:
>> Is it different when you boot from an nvme drive? I have what I was
>> told was one and it appears as /dev/sdb or /dev/sda depending how the
>> OS feels that day. I didn't buy it new, it was g
On Mon, Dec 02, 2024 at 03:41:43PM -0300, Bruno Schneider wrote:
I would recommend changing from UUID to labels. Doing so, all you need
to worry is that the new partitions have the same labels as the old
ones.
https://wiki.debian.org/fstab#Labels
I personally prefer UUIDs because the odds of an
On Thu, Dec 5, 2024 at 12:33 PM Michael Stone wrote:
> On Thu, Dec 05, 2024 at 10:53:54AM +, Daniel Harris wrote:
> >So its not actually a crash. On the 2 occasions it has happened, I have
> been
> >away from my computer for a while, and when I return and move the mouse,
> I can
> >see messa
On Thu, Dec 05, 2024 at 04:26:18PM CET, Max Nikulin said:
> On 05/12/2024 16:19, Jörg-Volker Peetz wrote:
> > 1. SSD's have some self healing capacities (discarding defect sectors)
> > which are performed when the drive is not mounted. Therefore, enter the
> > BIOS of the computer and let it runni
On 05/12/2024 16:19, Jörg-Volker Peetz wrote:
1. SSD's have some self healing capacities (discarding defect sectors)
which are performed when the drive is not mounted. Therefore, enter the
BIOS of the computer and let it running for ca. an hour. Then restart
the computer.
I am curious which w
Hi list,
Some of the special characters like :?!| need character mapping in the
cifs filesharing protocol in order to work well with different software
plattforms (Windows mostly). The only exception to character mapping
were the so called "unix extensions", which allowed a unix system to
sh
On Thu, Dec 05, 2024 at 09:42:08AM -0500, e...@gmx.us wrote:
Is it different when you boot from an nvme drive? I have what I was told
was one and it appears as /dev/sdb or /dev/sda depending how the OS feels
that day. I didn't buy it new, it was given to me, so I may have been
misinformed. It'
On 12/4/24 18:18, Michael Stone wrote:
> One somewhat different thing is the
> concept of NVMe namespaces: your drive will be /dev/nvme0, but you'll
> probably be using /dev/nvme0n1 except for device management. Partitions then
> look like /dev/nvme0n1p1.
Is it different when you boot from an nvm
gene heskett wrote:
> On 12/5/24 06:59, Klaus Singvogel wrote:
> >
> > It can be fixed by a Firmware upgrade, and more recently charges of Samsung
> > SSD 980 PRO are flashed/sold with a good Firmware out-of-the-box.
> While I am saying that my results with earlier Samsung have been less than
> g
Karl Vogel wrote:
> Sorry, I'm a bit behind on mail.
>
> On Sun 17 Nov 2024 at 10:50:31 (-0500), Chris Green wrote:
> > I'm running Debian 12 on two systems, on both of them I use large
> > terminal (xfce4) windows quite extensively and I use a light grey
> > background in the terminal windows.
On Thu, Dec 05, 2024 at 07:32:03AM -0500, gene heskett wrote:
While I am saying that my results with earlier Samsung have been less
than glorious. triple layer nand's turning into half capacity for
instance.
There's simply no real value in looking at historic bad models as a
guide to future p
Marcelo Laia wrote:
...
> If any additional information or logs are needed, please let me know. Thank
> you for your assistance!
do you have the microcode packages installed for your
architecture?
songbird
On Thu, Dec 05, 2024 at 10:53:54AM +, Daniel Harris wrote:
So its not actually a crash. On the 2 occasions it has happened, I have been
away from my computer for a while, and when I return and move the mouse, I can
see messages scrolling on a black screen (no X running). I can move to a new
On 12/5/24 06:59, Klaus Singvogel wrote:
Hi Gene,
gene heskett wrote:
interesting comments here. I've been using SSD's since 40G was the biggest.
The 256G spinning rust, now 15 years old is the only spinning rust left
here. And I've drawer full of samsung 860-870 series drives that have all
gon
Hi Gene,
gene heskett wrote:
> interesting comments here. I've been using SSD's since 40G was the biggest.
> The 256G spinning rust, now 15 years old is the only spinning rust left
> here. And I've drawer full of samsung 860-870 series drives that have all
> gone wonky but not RO yet.. I now have
On 12/5/24 02:23, Klaus Singvogel wrote:
Jeffrey Walton wrote:
On Wed, Dec 4, 2024 at 2:47 PM Klaus Singvogel wrote:
Some more details here:
https://www.pugetsystems.com/support/guides/critical-samsung-ssd-firmware-update/
That's interesting (in a morbid sort of way).
Do you know if fwupdmg
On Wed, Dec 4, 2024 at 11:43 PM Michael Stone wrote:
> On Wed, Dec 04, 2024 at 05:11:47PM +, Daniel Harris wrote:
> >Thanks for all your replies.
> >As far as I can tell there are no errors reported using fsck or smartctl
> or
> >nvme
> > and the firmware is the correct and newest version so
Sorry, I'm a bit behind on mail.
On Sun 17 Nov 2024 at 10:50:31 (-0500), Chris Green wrote:
> I'm running Debian 12 on two systems, on both of them I use large
> terminal (xfce4) windows quite extensively and I use a light grey
> background in the terminal windows. This means that the default X
>
* didier gaumet [24-12/05=Th 10:11 +0100]:
> Le 05/12/2024 à 06:52, Ben Wong a écrit :
>> Howdy!
>>
>> On most (all?) current Unix systems I can use `write` to communicate
>> with users logged in over `ssh`. However, now that Debian is removing
>> `mesg` and `writed` from util-linux [1], I'm wonde
There are two things which could be tried with the SSD
1. SSD's have some self healing capacities (discarding defect sectors) which are
performed when the drive is not mounted. Therefore, enter the BIOS of the
computer and let it running for ca. an hour. Then restart the computer.
2. After ma
Le 05/12/2024 à 06:52, Ben Wong a écrit :
Howdy!
On most (all?) current Unix systems I can use `write` to communicate
with users logged in over `ssh`. However, now that Debian is removing
`mesg` and `writed` from util-linux [1], I'm wondering what the
officially recommended replacement is. I
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