Re: sudo question

2024-11-20 Thread Erwan David
On Thu, Nov 21, 2024 at 07:39:33AM CET, Bitfox said: > > BTW, what’s the difference between [[ ]] and [ ] here? I know only the > latter. IIRC, [[ ]] is a bash/zsh builtin, [ ] is /bin/[ other name of /bin/test -- Erwan David

Re: sudo question

2024-11-20 Thread Bitfox
On 2024-11-21 13:21, Jeffrey Walton wrote: On Wed, Nov 20, 2024 at 9:42 PM Bitfox wrote: In my bash shell script, when I say: sudo echo "something" >>/etc/postfix/virtual_alias_maps it could not run with the prompts: bin/mask.sh: line 18: /etc/postfix/virtual_alias_maps: Permission denied

Re: mail sig separator (was Re: BD backup?)

2024-11-20 Thread David Wright
On Tue 19 Nov 2024 at 15:32:47 (+), Jonathan Dowland wrote: > On Tue Nov 19, 2024 at 3:02 PM GMT, eben wrote: > > That is what I see in the message to which you replied. See the <1k > > attachment. This message also has a space. Is that not what you see? > > I'm afraid not. Looking at your

Re: mail sig separator (was Re: BD backup?)

2024-11-20 Thread gene heskett
On 11/21/24 01:10, gene heskett wrote: On 11/20/24 23:46, John Crawley wrote: On 21/11/2024 05:31, gene heskett wrote: Which is what I am sending from latest t-bird in what I think is plain text, as below, and it works, my too long comment is not greyed out in the incoming echo from the listse

Re: mail sig separator (was Re: BD backup?)

2024-11-20 Thread John Crawley
On 21/11/2024 05:31, gene heskett wrote: Which is what I am sending from latest t-bird in what I think is plain text, as below, and it works, my too long comment is not greyed out in the incoming echo from the listserver. You should see it incoming but not in a reply you make that quotes my ms

Re: Will Trixie include packaged Nvidia proprietary 560 drivers ?

2024-11-20 Thread George at Clug
On Thursday, 21-11-2024 at 01:06 Andy Smith wrote: > Hi, > > On Wed, Nov 20, 2024 at 05:15:47PM +1100, George at Clug wrote: > > Judging by my own experiences, Debian Bookworm and Trixie, is that the > > currently packaged Nvidia proprietary drivers (535) do not support > > Wayland or Steam 3D

Re: mail sig separator (was Re: BD backup?)

2024-11-20 Thread The Wanderer
On 2024-11-20 at 12:08, e...@gmx.us wrote: > On 11/20/24 11:37, The Wanderer wrote: > >> On 2024-11-20 at 11:24, e...@gmx.us wrote: >>> Does anyone using Thunderbird _not_ get trailing spaces stripped, >>> or is it just me? >> >> I don't (see signature below), but it may be worth noting that I

Re: sudo question

2024-11-20 Thread eben
On 11/20/24 17:49, Greg Wooledge wrote: On Thu, Nov 21, 2024 at 06:17:31 +0800, Bitfox wrote: sudo echo "something" >>/etc/postfix/virtual_alias_maps https://mywiki.wooledge.org/BashPitfalls#pf53 Can you help me why the first sudo failed? The redirection >> is being done before sudo is exe

Re: mail sig separator (was Re: BD backup?)

2024-11-20 Thread Max Nikulin
On 20/11/2024 22:20, Greg Wooledge wrote: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii On Wed, Nov 20, 2024 at 10:13:20 -0500, eben wrote: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed This line has one trailing space. [...] This line has two leading and two trailing spaces.

Re: how avoid blank screen after some time

2024-11-20 Thread Max Nikulin
On 20/11/2024 11:31, Jeffrey Walton wrote: Does smplayer or mpv register a systemd inhibitor? Try: systemd-inhibit --list --no-pager --no-legend Sounds like a tool that may help to run rmmod for a TV receiver card before suspend (from a kaffeine thread several months ago) and to wait till

Re: sudo question

2024-11-20 Thread Keith Bainbridge
Sounds like making bin/mask.sh executable by root ONLY might help you forget to use sudo to run it Sudo chmod /bin/mask.sh x=rshould do it -- All the best Keith Bainbridge keithr...@gmail.com +61 (0)447 667 468 GMT+ 10:00 Sent from my Aphone. Please excuse my brevity. On 21 November 2

Re: problem with fwlogwatch.service (debian 12)

2024-11-20 Thread didier gaumet
Hello, it seems possible to increase the verbosity of systemctl for a particular service with the service-log-level command (cf systemctl manpage), perhaps (or not) it could provide useful infos.

Re: sudo question

2024-11-20 Thread Greg Wooledge
On Thu, Nov 21, 2024 at 06:17:31 +0800, Bitfox wrote: > sudo echo "something" >>/etc/postfix/virtual_alias_maps https://mywiki.wooledge.org/BashPitfalls#pf53 > Can you help me why the first sudo failed? The redirection >> is being done before sudo is executed.

sudo question

2024-11-20 Thread Bitfox
Hello, In my bash shell script, when I say: sudo echo "something" >>/etc/postfix/virtual_alias_maps it could not run with the prompts: bin/mask.sh: line 18: /etc/postfix/virtual_alias_maps: Permission denied but, if I just say: echo "something" >>/etc/postfix/virtual_alias_maps and run tha

Re: mail sig separator (was Re: BD backup?)

2024-11-20 Thread David Wright
On Wed 20 Nov 2024 at 11:35:28 (-0500), eben@… wrote: > > So, naturally you use an editor to compose your posts. > > Not sure why you would assume that, but let's run with it. How would I > configure Tbird do do such a thing? I see no relevant settings for "editor" > or "path" but maybe they're

Re: mail sig separator

2024-11-20 Thread Felix Miata
eben composed on 2024-11-20 12:08 (UTC-0500): > BTW I received your separator as "--=20". But that's once saved as eml. > Onscreen it looks fine, and the signature is greyed out. Anyone know how to > get a pure text version, if such a thing exists? Where is your .sig coming from? If it's in a p

Re: Contributing back: Using grub2 to boot CD-ROM images

2024-11-20 Thread Charles Curley
On Wed, 20 Nov 2024 15:46:01 -0500 Stefan Monnier wrote: > IIUC in your case, they can each use their > own partitions. Currently, they all reside on the same partition. I suppose a bit of hacking could put each on its own. An interesting thought. But that's more work than I want to do right now

Re: mail sig separator (was Re: BD backup?)

2024-11-20 Thread gene heskett
On 11/20/24 15:16, gene heskett wrote: On 11/20/24 11:24, e...@gmx.us wrote: On 11/20/24 10:20, Greg Wooledge wrote: On Wed, Nov 20, 2024 at 10:13:20 -0500, e...@gmx.us wrote: Just for kicks: This line has no trailing spaces. This line has one trailing space. This line has two trailing spaces.

Re: Looking for X cursor theme with bigger or darker I-Beam

2024-11-20 Thread Christoph Brinkhaus
Dear community, Am Mon, Nov 18, 2024 at 09:57:18AM + schrieb Eric S Fraga: > Response below/inline for email Chris Green wrote: > > (original email sent 17 Nov 2024 at 21:13) > > > > Felix Miata wrote: > >> I use dmz-cursor-theme in Debian and elsewhere that offer it. It comes in > >> variou

Re: Contributing back: Using grub2 to boot CD-ROM images

2024-11-20 Thread Stefan Monnier
>> In the past I've used the `grub-imageboot` package for that. > Near as I can tell, somewhere along the line the kernel and initrd are > extracted from the (CD|DVD|diskette) image. IIUC `grub-imageboot`s boot entries boot the ISOs by running the `memdisk` program, passing it the ISO. I don't re

Re: problem with fwlogwatch.service (debian 12)

2024-11-20 Thread Jean-François Bachelet
Hello Marial :) Le 20/11/2024 à 20:16, Darac Marjal a écrit : On Wed, Nov 20, 2024 at 05:35:58PM +0100, Jean-François Bachelet wrote: [cut] 'systemctl status fwlogwatch.service' : fwlogwatch.service - Firewall log analyzer Loaded: loaded (/lib/systemd/system/fwlogwatch.service; enabled

Re: mail sig separator (was Re: BD backup?)

2024-11-20 Thread gene heskett
On 11/20/24 11:24, e...@gmx.us wrote: On 11/20/24 10:20, Greg Wooledge wrote: On Wed, Nov 20, 2024 at 10:13:20 -0500, e...@gmx.us wrote: Just for kicks: This line has no trailing spaces. This line has one trailing space. This line has two trailing spaces. In the message I received, none of th

Re: problem with fwlogwatch.service (debian 12)

2024-11-20 Thread Darac Marjal
On Wed, Nov 20, 2024 at 05:35:58PM +0100, Jean-François Bachelet wrote: [cut] 'systemctl status fwlogwatch.service' : fwlogwatch.service - Firewall log analyzer Loaded: loaded (/lib/systemd/system/fwlogwatch.service; enabled; preset: enabled) Active: failed (Result: exit-code) sinc

Re: Contributing back: Using grub2 to boot CD-ROM images

2024-11-20 Thread tomas
On Wed, Nov 20, 2024 at 06:44:50PM +0100, Thomas Schmitt wrote: > Hi, [...] > At similar occasions i created pages in the Debian wiki and asked the > general public for review and comments: [...] noted. Cheers -- t signature.asc Description: PGP signature

Re: Contributing back: Using grub2 to boot CD-ROM images

2024-11-20 Thread Andy Smith
Hi Charles, On Wed, Nov 20, 2024 at 10:21:09AM -0700, Charles Curley wrote: > I think this might make a useful how-to, possibly for the Debian wiki. > Any thoughts on where to contribute it? Sounds interesting and useful. I think you should write an article on your blog, make sure that is archive

Re: Contributing back: Using grub2 to boot CD-ROM images

2024-11-20 Thread Charles Curley
On Wed, 20 Nov 2024 13:01:35 -0500 Stefan Monnier wrote: > In the past I've used the `grub-imageboot` package for that. Aha! Thank you. Near as I can tell, somewhere along the line the kernel and initrd are extracted from the (CD|DVD|diskette) image. My software doesn't even require that. Grub

Re: Contributing back: Using grub2 to boot CD-ROM images

2024-11-20 Thread Thomas Schmitt
Hi, > I've developed a script and suitable grub stanzas to let the user > install several CD-ROM images on a hard drive, and boot from the > CD-ROMs without extracting the kernel or initrd. > ... > I think this might make a useful how-to, possibly for the Debian wiki. > Any thoughts on where to co

Re: Contributing back: Using grub2 to boot CD-ROM images

2024-11-20 Thread Stefan Monnier
> The three images I have been working with are recent netinst weekly > builds, a recent Finnix, and the gparted live CD. All three go on their > own partition, in hope that that partition would isolate them from file > system catastrophes. Nice. In the past I've used the `grub-imageboot` package

Re: mail sig separator (was Re: BD backup?)

2024-11-20 Thread Charles Curley
On Wed, 20 Nov 2024 12:08:02 -0500 e...@gmx.us wrote: > Anyone know how to > get a pure text version, if such a thing exists? Possibly storing one's emails in maildir format. Each email is its own raw text file. Suitable grepping or use of mairix or the like should then locate particular messages

Contributing back: Using grub2 to boot CD-ROM images

2024-11-20 Thread Charles Curley
I've developed a script and suitable grub stanzas to let the user install several CD-ROM images on a hard drive, and boot from the CD-ROMs without extracting the kernel or initrd. This gives the user something of a rescue capability without requiring a CD/DVD or thumb drive. The three images I hav

Re: Contributing back: Using grub2 to boot CD-ROM images

2024-11-20 Thread tomas
On Wed, Nov 20, 2024 at 10:21:09AM -0700, Charles Curley wrote: > I've developed a script and suitable grub stanzas to let the user > install several CD-ROM images on a hard drive, and boot from the > CD-ROMs without extracting the kernel or initrd. This gives the user > something of a rescue capab

Re: mail sig separator (was Re: BD backup?)

2024-11-20 Thread tomas
On Wed, Nov 20, 2024 at 12:08:02PM -0500, e...@gmx.us wrote: > On 11/20/24 11:37, The Wanderer wrote: > > On 2024-11-20 at 11:24, e...@gmx.us wrote: > > > > > On 11/20/24 10:20, Greg Wooledge wrote: > > > > > > If I had to guess, I would guess that Thunderbird is composing > > > > HTML email, and

Re: Contributing back: Using grub2 to boot CD-ROM images

2024-11-20 Thread Christian Britz
Sounds interesting, I would really like to give it a try.

Re: mail sig separator (was Re: BD backup?)

2024-11-20 Thread eben
On 11/20/24 11:37, The Wanderer wrote: On 2024-11-20 at 11:24, e...@gmx.us wrote: On 11/20/24 10:20, Greg Wooledge wrote: If I had to guess, I would guess that Thunderbird is composing HTML email, and then translating it to plain text, with trailing spaces being lost during that translation.

problem with fwlogwatch.service (debian 12)

2024-11-20 Thread Jean-François Bachelet
Hello folks :) I got a machine to look at, so I've issued a 'systemctl status' and see a 'degraded' state. so I've done a 'systemctl status --failed' and see that 'fwlogwatch.service' was never started and shows 'exit code' as reasons... looking at the logs it appears it has never started f

Re: problem with fwlogwatch.service (debian 12)

2024-11-20 Thread tomas
On Wed, Nov 20, 2024 at 05:35:58PM +0100, Jean-François Bachelet wrote: > Hello Tomas :) > > Le 20/11/2024 à 13:38, to...@tuxteam.de a écrit : > > On Wed, Nov 20, 2024 at 01:19:24PM +0100, Jean-François Bachelet wrote: > > > Hello folks :) > > > > > > I got a machine to look at, so I've issued a

Re: mail sig separator (was Re: BD backup?)

2024-11-20 Thread eben
On 11/20/24 10:20, Greg Wooledge wrote: On Wed, Nov 20, 2024 at 10:13:20 -0500, e...@gmx.us wrote: Just for kicks: This line has no trailing spaces. This line has one trailing space. This line has two trailing spaces. In the message I received, none of these lines have any trailing spaces. D

Re: mail sig separator (was Re: BD backup?)

2024-11-20 Thread tomas
On Wed, Nov 20, 2024 at 09:49:58AM -0600, David Wright wrote: > On Tue 19 Nov 2024 at 19:41:25 (-0500), eben@… wrote: > > On 11/19/24 10:31, Brad Rogers wrote: > > > On Tue, 19 Nov 2024 10:02:59 -0500 eben@… wrote: > > > > > > > That is what I see in the message to which you replied. See the <1k

Re: mail sig separator (was Re: BD backup?)

2024-11-20 Thread eben
On 11/20/24 10:49, David Wright wrote: On Tue 19 Nov 2024 at 19:41:25 (-0500), eben@… wrote: On 11/19/24 10:31, Brad Rogers wrote: Your sig separator arrives here as "--". If it leaves you as "-- ", which it seems to be based on your attached image, I'm not sure what's happening. I guess u

Re: mail sig separator (was Re: BD backup?)

2024-11-20 Thread The Wanderer
On 2024-11-20 at 11:24, e...@gmx.us wrote: > On 11/20/24 10:20, Greg Wooledge wrote: >> If I had to guess, I would guess that Thunderbird is composing >> HTML email, and then translating it to plain text, with trailing >> spaces being lost during that translation. Including the trailing >> space

Re: problem with fwlogwatch.service (debian 12)

2024-11-20 Thread Jean-François Bachelet
Hello Tomas :) Le 20/11/2024 à 13:38, to...@tuxteam.de a écrit : On Wed, Nov 20, 2024 at 01:19:24PM +0100, Jean-François Bachelet wrote: Hello folks :) I got a machine to look at, so I've issued a 'systemctl status' and see a 'degraded' state. so I've done a 'systemctl status --failed' and se

Re: apt-get changelog [was: needrestart no longer depends on libmodule-scandeps-perl?]

2024-11-20 Thread Mike Kupfer
Charles Curley wrote: > On Wed, 20 Nov 2024 06:22:50 +0100 > wrote: > > > Hm. "apt-get changelog needrestart" works for me? Since apt delegates > > to apt-get, it should do the same... in fact, it works, too. > > > > What's missing? > > Possibly trixie v. bookworm. Specifically, I think it ha

No display found with Nvidia RTX 4060 Ti

2024-11-20 Thread Christian
Hello out there, Im still struggle with my new Nvidia GeForce RTX 4060 Ti and it seems that it's not the problem with the SecureBoot system. I switched off SecureBoot and it's still not working. First of all again the system consists of MSI Z690-A board with a Intel Core I7-14700, 64GB RAM. I in

needrestart no longer depends on libmodule-scandeps-perl?

2024-11-20 Thread Mike Kupfer
I noticed that after updating 'needrestart' to 3.6-4+deb12u2, the 'libmodule-scandeps-perl' package now shows up in the autoremove list. (In a VM that still has the 3.6-4+deb12u1 'needrestart', trying to remove 'libmodule-scandeps-perl' will also remove 'needrestart'.) Can someone confirm that thi

Trixie, mdadm, and systemd

2024-11-20 Thread Ian Molton
Hi all, Does anyone know if the defaults for mdadm make sense anymore? In particular, the three options for: AUTOCHECK, AUTOSCAN, and START_DAEMON It would *appear* that systemd has timers for these things now. I'm confused as to whether systemd, mdadm, or both need configuring here. Does sy

Re: mail sig separator (was Re: BD backup?)

2024-11-20 Thread David Wright
On Tue 19 Nov 2024 at 19:41:25 (-0500), eben@… wrote: > On 11/19/24 10:31, Brad Rogers wrote: > > On Tue, 19 Nov 2024 10:02:59 -0500 eben@… wrote: > > > > > That is what I see in the message to which you replied. See the <1k > > > attachment. This message also has a space. Is that not what you

Re: mail sig separator (was Re: BD backup?)

2024-11-20 Thread Greg Wooledge
On Wed, Nov 20, 2024 at 10:13:20 -0500, e...@gmx.us wrote: > Just for kicks: > This line has no trailing spaces. > This line has one trailing space. > This line has two trailing spaces. In the message I received, none of these lines have any trailing spaces. If I had to guess, I would guess that

Re: mail sig separator (was Re: BD backup?)

2024-11-20 Thread eben
On 11/20/24 00:29, to...@tuxteam.de wrote: On Tue, Nov 19, 2024 at 07:41:25PM -0500, e...@gmx.us wrote: On 11/19/24 10:31, Brad Rogers wrote: On Tue, 19 Nov 2024 10:02:59 -0500 e...@gmx.us wrote: Hello e...@gmx.us, That is what I see in the message to which you replied. See the <1k attachme

Re: Will Trixie include packaged Nvidia proprietary 560 drivers ?

2024-11-20 Thread Andy Smith
Hi, On Wed, Nov 20, 2024 at 05:15:47PM +1100, George at Clug wrote: > Judging by my own experiences, Debian Bookworm and Trixie, is that the > currently packaged Nvidia proprietary drivers (535) do not support > Wayland or Steam 3D action games. > > If I am incorrect please tell me which Debian p

Re: apt-get changelog [was: needrestart no longer depends on libmodule-scandeps-perl?]

2024-11-20 Thread tomas
On Wed, Nov 20, 2024 at 06:36:08AM -0700, Charles Curley wrote: > On Wed, 20 Nov 2024 06:22:50 +0100 > wrote: > > > Hm. "apt-get changelog needrestart" works for me? Since apt delegates > > to apt-get, it should do the same... in fact, it works, too. > > > > What's missing? > > Possibly trixie

Re: apt-get changelog [was: needrestart no longer depends on libmodule-scandeps-perl?]

2024-11-20 Thread Charles Curley
On Wed, 20 Nov 2024 06:22:50 +0100 wrote: > Hm. "apt-get changelog needrestart" works for me? Since apt delegates > to apt-get, it should do the same... in fact, it works, too. > > What's missing? Possibly trixie v. bookworm. Bookworm: charles@issola:~$ apt-get changelog needrestart Err:1 htt

Re: problem with fwlogwatch.service (debian 12)

2024-11-20 Thread tomas
On Wed, Nov 20, 2024 at 01:19:24PM +0100, Jean-François Bachelet wrote: > Hello folks :) > > I got a machine to look at, so I've issued a 'systemctl status' and see a > 'degraded' state. > > so I've done a 'systemctl status --failed' and see that 'fwlogwatch.service' > was never started and shows

Re: question about apt upgrade facing locally build packages

2024-11-20 Thread tomas
On Wed, Nov 20, 2024 at 12:04:42PM +, Tim Woodall wrote: > That's what I do too. > > +~tjw12r1 > if I've patched the current version. > ~tjw12r1 if I've backported a higher version. > > I scan for newer versions in debian and auto-rebase my changes (unless > the rebase fails) so I'm rarely mo

Re: question about apt upgrade facing locally build packages

2024-11-20 Thread Tim Woodall
On Sat, 16 Nov 2024, to...@tuxteam.de wrote: On Sat, Nov 16, 2024 at 11:53:25AM -0600, David Wright wrote: On Sat 16 Nov 2024 at 15:54:17 (+0100), to...@tuxteam.de wrote: On Sat, Nov 16, 2024 at 03:11:37PM +0100, Patrice Duroux wrote: On Sid, building and installing locally modified packages

Re: how avoid blank screen after some time

2024-11-20 Thread Charles Curley
On Tue, 19 Nov 2024 16:22:44 +0100 Hans wrote: > My hardware is a notebook Lenovo T-520, running debian/stable, fully > upgraded. I also have a t-520, running XFCE, and I have "Disable screensavers" checked. https://www.screensaversplanet.com/help/guides/mac/how-to-disable-the-screensaver-during

apt-get changelog [was: needrestart no longer depends on libmodule-scandeps-perl?]

2024-11-20 Thread tomas
On Tue, Nov 19, 2024 at 11:39:53AM -0800, Mike Kupfer wrote: > Christian Britz wrote: > > > See the changelog: > > * debian/control: Drop Depends on libmodule-scandeps-perl > > Thanks. I had tried looking at the changelog, but Synaptic and apt were > unable to find it. Hm. "apt-get changelog ne

Re: Will Trixie include packaged Nvidia proprietary 560 drivers ?

2024-11-20 Thread George at Clug
On Wednesday, 20-11-2024 at 18:52 Anssi Saari wrote: > George at Clug writes: > > > ​Hi, > > > > What are the chances that when Debian Trixie is released it will include > > packaged Nvidia proprietary 560 drivers (these drivers are currently in > > beta) ? > > I don't know the odds but beta

Re: question about apt upgrade facing locally build packages

2024-11-20 Thread Anssi Saari
Patrice Duroux writes: > But could it be the a nice feature for apt to have a list apart on the > upgrading > (I would say then 'replacing') of such cases? > User can be alerted more easily during apt upgrade that some packages with a > same version could be replaced by the Debian archive ones.