Re: Can someone explain containers, pods, docker, etc. please

2024-11-07 Thread songbird
Chris Green wrote: ... i haven't needed them and also haven't gotten into them. > I'm particularly interested in a way to run (say) Debian Bullseye > within my Debian Bookworm system. I'm looking for something slightly > 'lighter weight' than a full-blown virtual machine like virtualbox > tho

Re: Can someone explain containers, pods, docker, etc. please

2024-11-07 Thread Nicholas Geovanis
On Thu, Nov 7, 2024, 3:53 PM Roy J. Tellason, Sr. wrote: > On Thursday 07 November 2024 08:19:55 am Chris Green wrote: > > I'm trying to get my mind round the various ways of wrapping/isolating > > collections of code and programs in Debian (well in any Linux I > > suppose) and I'm really not und

Re: kmail + akonadi + trouble

2024-11-07 Thread Chris Green
I have been doing something somewhat similar to provide a backup for my mail server (I get mail delivered directly by SMTP to a postfix server on a home machine.) I have simply duplicated the postfix setup on the two machines, then I change the port forwarding in my router to deliver it to either

Re: Can someone explain containers, pods, docker, etc. please

2024-11-07 Thread Roy J. Tellason, Sr.
On Thursday 07 November 2024 08:19:55 am Chris Green wrote: > I'm trying to get my mind round the various ways of wrapping/isolating > collections of code and programs in Debian (well in any Linux I > suppose) and I'm really not understanding them very well.  When you go > to the home of any partic

kmail + akonadi + trouble

2024-11-07 Thread Hans
Hi folks, I am now working for hours, to get kmail running again. Problem: I have two computers running kmail. And I want both running the same configuration with the same mails on each computer. In other words: I want a clone of kmail on the other computer. Thus I rsynced all my mails to th

Re: Can someone explain containers, pods, docker, etc. please

2024-11-07 Thread Detlef Vollmann
On 11/7/24 14:19, Chris Green wrote: I'm particularly interested in a way to run (say) Debian Bullseye within my Debian Bookworm system. I'm looking for something slightly 'lighter weight' than a full-blown virtual machine like virtualbox though I guess I can use virtualbox if I have to. I do

Re: systemd version 256.7-2 on Debian testing disabled UTMP support

2024-11-07 Thread Jens Schmidt
> I am guessing from the version number that this is on trixie/sid. On Correct, thanks for guessing. > November 4th, systemd 256.7-3 came through. Have you tested whether > that fixed the issue? Nothing has changed with that version (note the "-UTMP"): , | [~]$ systemctl --version | systemd

Re: OFF TOPIC How can I help a friend remove coPilot?

2024-11-07 Thread Alain D D Williams
On Thu, Nov 07, 2024 at 09:38:25AM -0500, Dan Ritter wrote: > I'm pretty sure: > > a) Andy lives on an island generally considered part of Europe > b) you are sufficiently dedicated to being off topic that I'm > putting you in the killfile now. Please do not feed the trolls. The fun is over so

Re: OFF TOPIC How can I help a friend remove coPilot?

2024-11-07 Thread Steve McIntyre
mindaugascelies...@gmail.com wrote: Enough. The initial question didn't belong on this list in the first place, and you're making things worse. -- Steve McIntyre, Cambridge, UK.st...@einval.com Can't keep my eyes from the circling sky, Tongue-tied & twisted, J

Re: Can someone explain containers, pods, docker, etc. please

2024-11-07 Thread debian-user
Chris Green wrote: > Todd Zullinger wrote: > > [-- text/plain, encoding quoted-printable, charset: us-ascii, 25 > > lines --] > > > > Chris Green wrote: > > > I'm trying to get my mind round the various ways of > > > wrapping/isolating collections of code and programs in Debian > > > (well in

Re: OFF TOPIC How can I help a friend remove coPilot?

2024-11-07 Thread Dan Ritter
Mindaugas wrote: > Yes, yes. After all, you yankee imperialists with world savior syndrome are > very fond of going to psychotherapists and taking the drugs they prescribe > for you. > > On 11/7/24 08:09, Andy Smith wrote: > > such as your therapist's > > office. I'm pretty sure: a) Andy lives

Re: OFF TOPIC How can I help a friend remove coPilot?

2024-11-07 Thread Mindaugas
What difference does it make whether he is a yankee, an anglo-saxon, or their mental slave? On 11/7/24 16:38, Dan Ritter wrote: Mindaugas wrote: Yes, yes. After all, you yankee imperialists with world savior syndrome are very fond of going to psychotherapists and taking the drugs they prescrib

Re: Can someone explain containers, pods, docker, etc. please

2024-11-07 Thread Chris Green
Todd Zullinger wrote: > [-- text/plain, encoding quoted-printable, charset: us-ascii, 25 lines --] > > Chris Green wrote: > > I'm trying to get my mind round the various ways of wrapping/isolating > > collections of code and programs in Debian (well in any Linux I > > suppose) and I'm really not

Re: OFF TOPIC How can I help a friend remove coPilot?

2024-11-07 Thread Jeffrey Walton
On Thu, Nov 7, 2024 at 9:42 AM Mindaugas wrote: > > Yes, yes. After all, you yankee imperialists with world savior syndrome are > very fond of going to psychotherapists and taking the drugs they prescribe > for you. Lol... So true. Jeff

Re: Can someone explain containers, pods, docker, etc. please

2024-11-07 Thread Todd Zullinger
Chris Green wrote: > I'm trying to get my mind round the various ways of wrapping/isolating > collections of code and programs in Debian (well in any Linux I > suppose) and I'm really not understanding them very well. When you go > to the home of any particular one it seems to think you know what

Re: OFF TOPIC How can I help a friend remove coPilot?

2024-11-07 Thread Mindaugas
Yes, yes. After all, you yankee imperialists with world savior syndrome are very fond of going to psychotherapists and taking the drugs they prescribe for you. On 11/7/24 08:09, Andy Smith wrote: such as your therapist's office.

Can someone explain containers, pods, docker, etc. please

2024-11-07 Thread Chris Green
I'm trying to get my mind round the various ways of wrapping/isolating collections of code and programs in Debian (well in any Linux I suppose) and I'm really not understanding them very well. When you go to the home of any particular one it seems to think you know what it is already and thus goes

Re: Options for running a legacy python 2.7 app in Debian 12

2024-11-07 Thread Chris Green
Loris Bennett wrote: > Chris Green writes: > > > Andy Smith wrote: > >> Hi Chris, > >> > >> On Wed, Nov 06, 2024 at 10:54:17PM +, Chris Green wrote: > >> > I have an OKI scanner which has a neat little linux app for running it > >> > from a linux desktop. However it hasn't been updated fro

Re: Options for running a legacy python 2.7 app in Debian 12

2024-11-07 Thread Loris Bennett
Chris Green writes: > Andy Smith wrote: >> Hi Chris, >> >> On Wed, Nov 06, 2024 at 10:54:17PM +, Chris Green wrote: >> > I have an OKI scanner which has a neat little linux app for running it >> > from a linux desktop. However it hasn't been updated from python 2.7 >> > days and I'm looking

Re: Debian 12 installation - installation USB stick boots to grub prompt

2024-11-07 Thread Chris Green
David Wright wrote: > On Mon 04 Nov 2024 at 17:17:44 (+), Chris Green wrote: > > I have found how to get it to install, I removed the other (SATA SSD) > > disk drive. It now boots successfully, phew! > > Good. > > > I've no idea why that second drive breaks things. I installed it when > >

Re: Options for running a legacy python 2.7 app in Debian 12

2024-11-07 Thread Chris Green
Xiyue Deng wrote: > [-- text/plain, encoding quoted-printable, charset: utf-8, 61 lines --] > > Chris Green writes: > [snip] > > > > The ideal would be some sort of mini virtualbox type of environment > > that supports python 2.7. > > > > Using Docker/Podman to run a container with an old vers

Re: Options for running a legacy python 2.7 app in Debian 12

2024-11-07 Thread Chris Green
Andy Smith wrote: > Hi Chris, > > On Wed, Nov 06, 2024 at 10:54:17PM +, Chris Green wrote: > > I have an OKI scanner which has a neat little linux app for running it > > from a linux desktop. However it hasn't been updated from python 2.7 > > days and I'm looking at ways I might get it to run