Re: Newbie to Debian 12.7

2024-11-05 Thread Timothy M Butterworth
On Tue, Nov 5, 2024 at 7:54 PM Timothy M Butterworth < timothy.m.butterwo...@gmail.com> wrote: > > > On Tue, Nov 5, 2024 at 4:57 PM Gregory Forster > wrote: > >> Hi >> >> I have an older 14" HP Probook 440 with Intel core I3-4000M, 1TB >> HDD, 12GB RAM. After several weeks of debating and sw

Re: Newbie to Debian 12.7

2024-11-05 Thread Timothy M Butterworth
On Tue, Nov 5, 2024 at 4:57 PM Gregory Forster wrote: > Hi > > I have an older 14" HP Probook 440 with Intel core I3-4000M, 1TB > HDD, 12GB RAM. After several weeks of debating and switching back and > forth between Debian and Fedora, I settled upon Debian 12.7 with the > Cinnamon desktop, f

Re: Opening a URL with NetSurf from another application

2024-11-05 Thread Stefan Monnier
>>> On 05/11/2024 11:08, Stefan Monnier wrote: default browser: how would you get it to open a new tab in an existing window when, e.g. `xdg-open` needs it? Max Nikulin [2024-11-05 23:51:21] wrote: > Is your problem that new window is opened instead of new tab in response to > "xdg-open

Re: absent last login report on vtty login

2024-11-05 Thread Charles Curley
On Tue, 5 Nov 2024 13:37:26 -0500 Jeffrey Walton wrote: > I believe the message in SSH is due to /etc/ssh/sshd_config. Search > for "banner." I think not. My sshd_config files on both bookworm and trixie have banner commented out. According to the man page for that file, the default is no banner

Re: Newbie to Debian 12.7

2024-11-05 Thread Charles Curley
On Tue, 5 Nov 2024 11:21:25 -0600 Gregory Forster wrote: > However, there is one question I > have regarding Debian. How do I get another repository for more apps? > Or, how do  I get certain apps, such as: Bible Time, KeePass, VLC > Media Player, Audacity? Ask and ye shall receive. charles@h

Re: Newbie to Debian 12.7

2024-11-05 Thread Michael Kjörling
On 5 Nov 2024 11:21 -0600, from debian4g...@gmail.com (Gregory Forster): > How do I get another repository for more apps? You should avoid third-party repositories if possible, especially if you are new to Debian. It's _very_ easy to end up with what is colloquially known as a FrankenDebian. https

Re: absent last login report on vtty login

2024-11-05 Thread Jeffrey Walton
On Tue, Nov 5, 2024 at 12:00 PM Charles Curley wrote: > > On Tue, 5 Nov 2024 07:15:50 -0700 > Charles Curley wrote: > > > On Tue, 5 Nov 2024 08:17:57 -0500 > > Felix Miata wrote: > > > > > This used to be a normal announcement on vtty login. On Trixie it's > > > missing. > > > > Odd. It's presen

Re: absent last login report on vtty login

2024-11-05 Thread Felix Miata
Felix Miata composed on 2024-11-05 08:17 (UTC-0500): > This used to be a normal announcement on vtty login. On Trixie it's missing. > What's responsible for it? Is it different on Trixie? On Tumbleweed it's a > separate package lastlog or something like that. Search for similar for Trixie > comes

Re: Newbie to Debian 12.7

2024-11-05 Thread eben
On 11/5/24 12:21, Gregory Forster wrote: How do I get another repository for more apps? Or, how do I get certain apps, such as: Bible Time, KeePass, VLC Media Player, Audacity? I have three out of those four, but I forget whence they came. Probably from either backports: deb http://deb.debian

Re: XOFF (C-s) on ptys works by default

2024-11-05 Thread Nicolas George
Marc SCHAEFER (12024-11-05): > > It is very handy on emulated ttys too. You never had the output of > > tcpdump / tail -f /var/log/ / make you wanted to pause to inspect > > something? > On slow, physical VT100 terminals, indeed, I used that over 20 years > ago. On virtual ones they are usually to

Newbie to Debian 12.7

2024-11-05 Thread Gregory Forster
Hi     I have an older 14" HP Probook 440 with Intel core I3-4000M, 1TB HDD, 12GB RAM. After several weeks of debating and switching back and forth between Debian and Fedora, I settled upon Debian 12.7 with the Cinnamon desktop, for several reasons. However, there is one question I have regar

Re: XOFF (C-s) on ptys works by default

2024-11-05 Thread Chris Green
On Tue, Nov 05, 2024 at 09:15:56AM -0500, Stefan Monnier wrote: > Nicolas George [2024-11-05 12:11:39] wrote: > > Marc SCHAEFER (12024-11-05): > >> It could have been handy on a real tty > > It is very handy on emulated ttys too. You never had the output of > > tcpdump / tail -f /var/log/… / make y

Re: absent last login report on vtty login

2024-11-05 Thread Charles Curley
On Tue, 5 Nov 2024 07:15:50 -0700 Charles Curley wrote: > On Tue, 5 Nov 2024 08:17:57 -0500 > Felix Miata wrote: > > > This used to be a normal announcement on vtty login. On Trixie it's > > missing. > > Odd. It's present on the VM I recently installed using a recent weekly > build, "testing

Re: Opening a URL with NetSurf from another application

2024-11-05 Thread Max Nikulin
On 05/11/2024 23:26, Stefan Monnier wrote: Max Nikulin [2024-11-05 23:04:16] wrote: On 05/11/2024 11:08, Stefan Monnier wrote: default browser: how would you get it to open a new tab in an existing window when, e.g. `xdg-open` needs it?

Re: Opening a URL with NetSurf from another application

2024-11-05 Thread Stefan Monnier
Max Nikulin [2024-11-05 23:04:16] wrote: > On 05/11/2024 11:08, Stefan Monnier wrote: >> But I'd like to be able to send URLs to NetSurf and can't figure out how >> to do it. Am I missing something? Say you'd like to install it as your >> default browser: how would you get it to open a new tab in

Re: absent last login report on vtty login

2024-11-05 Thread Max Nikulin
On 05/11/2024 20:17, Felix Miata wrote: This used to be a normal announcement on vtty login. On Trixie it's missing. Transition to 64bit time_t? https://www.thkukuk.de/blog/Y2038_glibc_utmp_64bit/

Re: Open links in existing browser window, not in current workspace

2024-11-05 Thread Max Nikulin
On 04/11/2024 22:03, Chris Green wrote: When I click on a web link in a terminal window I want the link to open in my existing browser window (which is usually on a different workspace). [...] I'm running xfce4 and my default browser is vivaldi. Is behavior consistent with the following comma

Re: Opening a URL with NetSurf from another application

2024-11-05 Thread Max Nikulin
On 05/11/2024 11:08, Stefan Monnier wrote: But I'd like to be able to send URLs to NetSurf and can't figure out how to do it. Am I missing something? Say you'd like to install it as your default browser: how would you get it to open a new tab in an existing window when, e.g. `xdg-open` needs it

Re: absent last login report on vtty login

2024-11-05 Thread tomas
On Tue, Nov 05, 2024 at 10:08:51AM -0500, Felix Miata wrote: > Greg Wooledge composed on 2024-11-05 08:27 (UTC-0500): > > > On Tue, Nov 05, 2024 at 08:17:57 -0500, Felix Miata wrote: > > >> This used to be a normal announcement on vtty login. On Trixie it's > >> missing. > >> What's responsible

Re: absent last login report on vtty login

2024-11-05 Thread Felix Miata
Greg Wooledge composed on 2024-11-05 08:27 (UTC-0500): > On Tue, Nov 05, 2024 at 08:17:57 -0500, Felix Miata wrote: >> This used to be a normal announcement on vtty login. On Trixie it's missing. >> What's responsible for it? > I think it's part of /etc/pam.d/login . On Debian 12, that file > i

Re: XOFF (C-s) on ptys works by default

2024-11-05 Thread Stefan Monnier
Nicolas George [2024-11-05 12:11:39] wrote: > Marc SCHAEFER (12024-11-05): >> It could have been handy on a real tty > It is very handy on emulated ttys too. You never had the output of > tcpdump / tail -f /var/log/… / make you wanted to pause to inspect > something? I always use `C-z` for that.

Re: absent last login report on vtty login

2024-11-05 Thread Felix Miata
Charles Curley composed on 2024-11-05 09:15 (UTC-0500): > On Tue, 5 Nov 2024 08:17:57 -0500 Felix Miata wrote: >> This used to be a normal announcement on vtty login. On Trixie it's >> missing. > Odd. It's present on the VM I recently installed using a recent weekly > build, "testing _Trixie_ -

Re: absent last login report on vtty login

2024-11-05 Thread Charles Curley
On Tue, 5 Nov 2024 08:17:57 -0500 Felix Miata wrote: > This used to be a normal announcement on vtty login. On Trixie it's > missing. Odd. It's present on the VM I recently installed using a recent weekly build, "testing _Trixie_ - Official Snapshot amd64 NETINST with firmware 20241028-03:22]".

Re: absent last login report on vtty login

2024-11-05 Thread Greg Wooledge
On Tue, Nov 05, 2024 at 08:17:57 -0500, Felix Miata wrote: > This used to be a normal announcement on vtty login. On Trixie it's missing. > What's responsible for it? I think it's part of /etc/pam.d/login . On Debian 12, that file includes this bit: # Prints the last login info upon successful l

absent last login report on vtty login

2024-11-05 Thread Felix Miata
This used to be a normal announcement on vtty login. On Trixie it's missing. What's responsible for it? Is it different on Trixie? On Tumbleweed it's a separate package lastlog or something like that. Search for similar for Trixie comes up empty. :( -- Evolution as taught in public schools is, lik

Re: XOFF (C-s) on ptys works by default

2024-11-05 Thread Chris Green
On Tue, Nov 05, 2024 at 12:11:39PM +0100, Nicolas George wrote: > Marc SCHAEFER (12024-11-05): > > It could have been handy on a real tty > > It is very handy on emulated ttys too. You never had the output of > tcpdump / tail -f /var/log/… / make you wanted to pause to inspect > something? > It's

Re: Opening a URL with NetSurf from another application

2024-11-05 Thread Jonathan Dowland
On Tue Nov 5, 2024 at 4:08 AM GMT, Stefan Monnier wrote: > Someone mentioned NetSurf recently here and I'm trying it out. > It's an interesting "halfway" point between TUI browsers like Lynx/EWW, > and monsters like Firefox. > > But I'd like to be able to send URLs to NetSurf and can't figure out h

Re: XOFF (C-s) on ptys works by default

2024-11-05 Thread tomas
On Tue, Nov 05, 2024 at 12:49:46PM +0100, Marc SCHAEFER wrote: > Hello, > > On Tue, Nov 05, 2024 at 12:11:39PM +0100, Nicolas George wrote: > > > It could have been handy on a real tty > > > > It is very handy on emulated ttys too. You never had the output of > > tcpdump / tail -f /var/log/ / mak

Re: XOFF (C-s) on ptys works by default

2024-11-05 Thread Marc SCHAEFER
Hello, On Tue, Nov 05, 2024 at 12:11:39PM +0100, Nicolas George wrote: > > It could have been handy on a real tty > > It is very handy on emulated ttys too. You never had the output of > tcpdump / tail -f /var/log/ / make you wanted to pause to inspect > something? On slow, physical VT100 termin

Re: XOFF (C-s) on ptys works by default

2024-11-05 Thread Nicolas George
Marc SCHAEFER (12024-11-05): > It could have been handy on a real tty It is very handy on emulated ttys too. You never had the output of tcpdump / tail -f /var/log/… / make you wanted to pause to inspect something? > It can be annoying because some users will not know that they can > get out of t

XOFF (C-s) on ptys works by default

2024-11-05 Thread Marc SCHAEFER
Hello, Something funny is that on a pty you have XON/XOFF software flow control enabled by default: - if you type C-s (XOFF), output will be paused - if you type C-q (XON), output will be resumed It could have been handy on a real tty -- serial line/port -- although when I was using modems

Re: Edge on debian

2024-11-05 Thread George at Clug
On Tuesday, 05-11-2024 at 05:24 Darac Marjal wrote: > > On 04/11/2024 12:15, Hwa Peer wrote: > > Hello list, > > > > Have you anybody tried MS Edge browser on Debian desktop? > > I would be happy to hear your viewpoints on this app. > > Microsoft Edge is currently based on Chromium (the "Blink