Re: [update] Re: Updating from Debian 9.13 to 12.7

2024-10-15 Thread tomas
On Tue, Oct 15, 2024 at 03:12:30PM -0700, Mike Kupfer wrote: > wrote: > > > > Richard Owlett wrote: > > > > > > > Wandering a chain of links starting at https://wiki.mate-desktop.org/ > > > > leads me to _suspect_ the configuration information I seek is in > > > > /home/richard/.config/dconf/use

Re: How to load new firmware?

2024-10-15 Thread David Wright
On Tue 15 Oct 2024 at 17:43:30 (-0400), Lee wrote: > On Tue, Oct 15, 2024 at 4:20 PM David Wright wrote: > > On Tue 15 Oct 2024 at 20:33:09 (+0100), debian-user wrote: > > > If I click on either of the bookworm-backports links above (either http > > > or https) my browser takes me to http://ftp.de

Re: How to load new firmware?

2024-10-15 Thread Charles Curley
On Tue, 15 Oct 2024 10:57:31 -0700 Xiyue Deng wrote: > To see packages versions available in all your repositories, you can > use `apt policy': > > , > | $ apt policy firmware-realtek > | firmware-realtek: > | Installed: 20230210-5 > | Candidate: 20230210-5 > | Version table: > |

Re: [update] Re: Updating from Debian 9.13 to 12.7

2024-10-15 Thread Mike Kupfer
wrote: > > Richard Owlett wrote: > > > > > Wandering a chain of links starting at https://wiki.mate-desktop.org/ > > > leads me to _suspect_ the configuration information I seek is in > > > /home/richard/.config/dconf/user . [...] > Besides, it might be a bad idea to change the file while the de

Re: How to load new firmware?

2024-10-15 Thread Lee
On Tue, Oct 15, 2024 at 4:20 PM David Wright wrote: > > On Tue 15 Oct 2024 at 20:33:09 (+0100), debian-user wrote: > > If I click on either of the bookworm-backports links above (either http > > or https) my browser takes me to http://ftp.debian.org/debian/ and in > > the dists/ directory I see [D

Re: Request for Clarification on Debian Installation Modes

2024-10-15 Thread George at Clug
Muhammad, I will offer you my quick explanation: You should end up with the same result, no matter which media you use to install to your computer. 1) Live media is for people who want to run Debian from a DVD/USB before actually installing to their computer. This allows them to 1) check that

Re: Request for Clarification on Debian Installation Modes

2024-10-15 Thread Darac Marjal
On 15/10/2024 21:03, deb...@nexgntech.com wrote: Dear All, A few days back, I had the opportunity to dive into the OpenWISP / OpenWRT project, and I learned that it is best supported on Debian. (For the benefit of other list members, OpenWISP appears to be something that installs on top of

Re: Request for Clarification on Debian Installation Modes

2024-10-15 Thread Thomas Schmitt
Hi, deb...@nexgntech.com wrote: > I encountered four different modes of installation for Debian, and I would > appreciate it if someone could explain the differences between these modes > in detail. Specifically, I would like to understand what each mode includes > initially and what additional pa

Re: How to load new firmware?

2024-10-15 Thread Lee
On Tue, Oct 15, 2024 at 1:45 PM Charles Curley wrote: > > On Tue, 15 Oct 2024 11:27:23 -0400 > Lee wrote: > > > # backports so I can get the latest Realtek wifi drivers > > deb https://deb.debian.org/debian bookworm-backports main non-free-firmware > > deb-src https://deb.debian.org/debian bookworm

Re: How to load new firmware?

2024-10-15 Thread George at Clug
On Wednesday, 16-10-2024 at 02:27 Lee wrote: > Hi, > > On Mon, Oct 14, 2024 at 7:30 PM George at Clug wrote: > > > > Lee, > > > > I do not have a solution for you, but as you likely found via Internet > > searches, you are not alone in having issues with this Realtek > > device/driver. > > >

Request for Clarification on Debian Installation Modes

2024-10-15 Thread debian
Dear All, A few days back, I had the opportunity to dive into the OpenWISP / OpenWRT project, and I learned that it is best supported on Debian. While studying, I encountered four different modes of installation for Debian, and I would appreciate it if someone could explain the differences betw

Re: Debain XFCE login issue

2024-10-15 Thread David Wright
On Tue 15 Oct 2024 at 08:56:00 (+0100), Chris Green wrote: > Bala Personal wrote: > > I attempted to log in with the wrong password, and I received a > > notification that my password was incorrect. Is this when typing into a graphical screen? > However, I was able to use > > the correct passw

Re: How to load new firmware?

2024-10-15 Thread David Wright
On Tue 15 Oct 2024 at 20:33:09 (+0100), debian-u...@howorth.org.uk wrote: > If I click on either of the bookworm-backports links above (either http > or https) my browser takes me to http://ftp.debian.org/debian/ and in > the dists/ directory I see [DIR] bookworm-backports/ dists will take you to

Re: If one sets 'Defaults rootpw' in sudoers but no root password is it disaster?

2024-10-15 Thread Dan Ritter
Chris Green wrote: > I'd like to force a different password from my own password when I do > 'sudo -i' to get root privilege. However I'm a bit frightened about > what might happen if I set 'Defaults rootpw' in the sudoers file but > forget to actually create a root password. (This is on systems

Re: If one sets 'Defaults rootpw' in sudoers but no root password is it disaster?

2024-10-15 Thread Roland Müller
I am to tired to test this now - but I guess as prerequisite you should then give the root user a password.  A long time ago I was "providing" root with a password in some Debian or Ubuntu system using 'passwd'. sudo should not cope with an undefined root password, and visudo is just a wrapper

If one sets 'Defaults rootpw' in sudoers but no root password is it disaster?

2024-10-15 Thread Chris Green
I'd like to force a different password from my own password when I do 'sudo -i' to get root privilege. However I'm a bit frightened about what might happen if I set 'Defaults rootpw' in the sudoers file but forget to actually create a root password. (This is on systems where, previously, I've nev

Re: How to load new firmware?

2024-10-15 Thread debian-user
Charles Curley wrote: > On Tue, 15 Oct 2024 11:27:23 -0400 > Lee wrote: > > > # backports so I can get the latest Realtek wifi drivers > > deb https://deb.debian.org/debian bookworm-backports main > > non-free-firmware deb-src https://deb.debian.org/debian > > bookworm-backports main non-free-fi

Re: [update] Re: Updating from Debian 9.13 to 12.7

2024-10-15 Thread tomas
On Tue, Oct 15, 2024 at 10:06:42AM -0700, Mike Kupfer wrote: > Richard Owlett wrote: > > > Wandering a chain of links starting at https://wiki.mate-desktop.org/ > > leads me to _suspect_ the configuration information I seek is in > > /home/richard/.config/dconf/user . > > You can dump the setting

Re: How to load new firmware?

2024-10-15 Thread Xiyue Deng
Charles Curley writes: > On Tue, 15 Oct 2024 11:27:23 -0400 > Lee wrote: > >> # backports so I can get the latest Realtek wifi drivers >> deb https://deb.debian.org/debian bookworm-backports main non-free-firmware >> deb-src https://deb.debian.org/debian bookworm-backports main >> non-free-firm

Re: How to load new firmware?

2024-10-15 Thread Charles Curley
On Tue, 15 Oct 2024 11:27:23 -0400 Lee wrote: > # backports so I can get the latest Realtek wifi drivers > deb https://deb.debian.org/debian bookworm-backports main non-free-firmware > deb-src https://deb.debian.org/debian bookworm-backports main > non-free-firmware The only thing I can see is

Re: Bug in 'more' command

2024-10-15 Thread Todd Zullinger
Jeffrey Walton wrote: > On Tue, Oct 15, 2024 at 3:40 AM Todd Zullinger wrote: >> For additional (and _possibly_ interesting) context, this >> isn't a Debian-specific change. It's part of the upstream >> util-linux-2.38 release¹. It was submitted to the >> util-linux mailing list in 2021² and ref

Re: [update] Re: Updating from Debian 9.13 to 12.7

2024-10-15 Thread Mike Kupfer
Richard Owlett wrote: > Wandering a chain of links starting at https://wiki.mate-desktop.org/ > leads me to _suspect_ the configuration information I seek is in > /home/richard/.config/dconf/user . You can dump the settings that are in dconf with gsettings list-recursively and redirecting the

Re: Bug in 'more' command

2024-10-15 Thread Jeffrey Walton
On Tue, Oct 15, 2024 at 3:40 AM Todd Zullinger wrote: > > Jim Anderson wrote: > > I'm not sure why the Debian developers chose to change the > > behavior of the 'more' command, but the Debian release 12 > > has the annoying habit, upon reaching end of the file, of > > displaying extra empty lines

Re: Bug in 'more' command

2024-10-15 Thread Max Nikulin
On 15/10/2024 11:06, Todd Zullinger wrote: For additional (and _possibly_ interesting) context, this isn't a Debian-specific change. It's part of the upstream util-linux-2.38 release¹. It was submitted to the util-linux mailing list in 2021² and referenced the POSIX specification as the ration

Re: How to load new firmware?

2024-10-15 Thread Lee
Hi, On Mon, Oct 14, 2024 at 7:30 PM George at Clug wrote: > > Lee, > > I do not have a solution for you, but as you likely found via Internet > searches, you are not alone in having issues with this Realtek device/driver. > > Like you suggested, I too once installed Linux Mint Ubuntu to a laptop

[update] Re: Updating from Debian 9.13 to 12.7

2024-10-15 Thread Richard Owlett
On 10/15/2024 05:25 AM, Richard Owlett wrote: On 10/14/2024 06:43 AM, Dan Purgert wrote: On Oct 13, 2024, Richard Owlett wrote: On 10/13/2024 04:57 AM, Andrew M.A. Cater wrote: On Sat, Oct 12, 2024 at 08:27:55AM -0500, Richard Owlett wrote: It has been my habit since days of Squeeze to install

Re: Bug in 'more' command

2024-10-15 Thread Greg Wooledge
On Tue, Oct 15, 2024 at 16:01:41 +0300, Anssi Saari wrote: > For decades, I've had an alias like this: > > alias l="ls -lF|more" > > Convenient, no pager unless the directory listing is long. And now it's > become this code: > > more_version=$(more --version|awk '{print $4}'|cut -d. -f1-2) > if

Re: Bug in 'more' command

2024-10-15 Thread Anssi Saari
Jim Anderson writes: > One time usage is not bad, but if you use 'more' often, as I do, this > behavior is a repeating waste of time. I hope the developers will > revert to the traditional behavior. I doubt that but who knows. For decades, I've had an alias like this: alias l="ls -lF|more" C

Re: Refugee from [x]ubuntu, a few initial questions

2024-10-15 Thread Anssi Saari
Chris Green writes: > No need for that (testing for me), I can try and if it all goes pear > shaped I'll just have to go out to the system in the garage with a > screen and keyboard (and mouse). If the backup system is down for a > while it wouldn't be a disaster. I've actually done a headless

Re: Updating from Debian 9.13 to 12.7

2024-10-15 Thread Richard Owlett
On 10/14/2024 06:43 AM, Dan Purgert wrote: On Oct 13, 2024, Richard Owlett wrote: On 10/13/2024 04:57 AM, Andrew M.A. Cater wrote: On Sat, Oct 12, 2024 at 08:27:55AM -0500, Richard Owlett wrote: It has been my habit since days of Squeeze to install the new Debian to a fresh fresh partition and

Re: Firefox codecs

2024-10-15 Thread Virgo Pärna
On Mon, 7 Oct 2024 13:47:14 -0300, Bruno Schneider wrote: > On Sat, Oct 5, 2024 at 11:46 PM Max Nikulin wrote: >> Do you have libfdk-aac2 or gstreamer1.0-fdkaac (non-free) installed? It >> may depend on whether PipeWire or PulseAudio is used. > Now I'm writing from a computer where Firefox suppor

Re: Debain XFCE login issue

2024-10-15 Thread Chris Green
Bala Personal wrote: > Hi Charles, > > I attempted to log in with the wrong password, and I received a > notification that my password was incorrect. However, I was able to use > the correct password successfully in the terminal on the same day. The > issue I'm facing is that I can't bypass th

Re: Debain XFCE login issue

2024-10-15 Thread Bala Personal
Hi Charles, I attempted to log in with the wrong password, and I received a notification that my password was incorrect. However, I was able to use the correct password successfully in the terminal on the same day. The issue I'm facing is that I can't bypass the login screen; when I enter my