Ten Weird Things You Shouldn't Do [was: Testing]

2024-09-28 Thread tomas
On Sat, Sep 28, 2024 at 03:46:34PM -0500, Mike Waters wrote: > Testing with Gmail to see if I absolutely need to install mutt. Don't do those things - use gmail. Google ain't your friend. Nor mine. - hijack a thread (if you are too lazy to enter the mailing list, at least delete the relevant he

Re: Testing

2024-09-28 Thread Peter Ehlert
โ“˜ ๐˜ ๐˜ฐ๐˜ถ ๐˜ค๐˜ข๐˜ฏ'๐˜ต ๐˜ด๐˜ฆ๐˜ฆ ๐˜ต๐˜ฉ๐˜ช๐˜ด ๐˜ค๐˜ฐ๐˜ฎ๐˜ฎ๐˜ฆ๐˜ฏ๐˜ต ๐˜ฃ๐˜ฆ๐˜ค๐˜ข๐˜ถ๐˜ด๐˜ฆ ๐˜บ๐˜ฐ๐˜ถ ๐˜ข๐˜ณ๐˜ฆ ๐˜ถ๐˜ด๐˜ช๐˜ฏ๐˜จ ๐˜ข ๐˜Š๐˜ฉ๐˜ช๐˜ฏ๐˜ฆ๐˜ด๐˜ฆ ๐˜ฎ๐˜ฐ๐˜ฃ๐˜ช๐˜ญ๐˜ฆ On September 28, 2024 1:47:23 PM Mike Waters wrote: Testing with Gmail to see if I absolutely need to install mutt. Pardon my intrusion. :-)

Testing

2024-09-28 Thread Mike Waters
Testing with Gmail to see if I absolutely need to install mutt. Pardon my intrusion. :-)

Re: ifupdown and inet6 gateways for inet interfaces

2024-09-28 Thread Andy Smith
On Sat, Sep 28, 2024 at 07:25:37PM +, Andy Smith wrote: > I got a reply on Fedi basically to that effect, by someone who had > recently presented on the subject And here's Tobias's presentation (21 minutes; link to slides on that page): https://ripe88.ripe.net/archives/video/1358/ -- ht

Re: ifupdown and inet6 gateways for inet interfaces

2024-09-28 Thread Andy Smith
Hi, On Sat, Sep 28, 2024 at 04:37:31PM +0100, Tim Woodall wrote: > Fascinating! I had absolutely no idea you could do that! It is fun. ๐Ÿ˜€ Having users, even if it was supported in ifupdown, netplan etc I'm still not sure I would do it just yet as it may be far too unexpected for them. > I suspect

Re: Problems with fresh 64 bit Debian 12.7

2024-09-28 Thread eben
On 9/28/24 13:48, Richard Owlett wrote: On 09/28/2024 12:13 PM, Andrew M.A. Cater wrote: On Sat, Sep 28, 2024 at 11:35:34AM -0500, Richard Owlett wrote: Underlying Problem: Debian is *TOO* good and reliable ;}! 32 bit Debian 9.13 has given yeoman service. But I want some features that weren't a

Re: Problems with fresh 64 bit Debian 12.7

2024-09-28 Thread Andrew M.A. Cater
On Sat, Sep 28, 2024 at 12:48:41PM -0500, Richard Owlett wrote: > On 09/28/2024 12:13 PM, Andrew M.A. Cater wrote: > > On Sat, Sep 28, 2024 at 11:35:34AM -0500, Richard Owlett wrote: > > > Underlying Problem: Debian is *TOO* good and reliable ;}! > > > 32 bit Debian 9.13 has given yeoman service. >

Re: Problems with fresh 64 bit Debian 12.7

2024-09-28 Thread Richard Owlett
On 09/28/2024 12:13 PM, Andrew M.A. Cater wrote: On Sat, Sep 28, 2024 at 11:35:34AM -0500, Richard Owlett wrote: Underlying Problem: Debian is *TOO* good and reliable ;}! 32 bit Debian 9.13 has given yeoman service. But I want some features that weren't available in the Jurassic. Having a low da

Re: Cleanup in a bash script

2024-09-28 Thread Michael Kjรถrling
On 28 Sep 2024 16:28 +0100, from debianu...@woodall.me.uk (Tim Woodall): > Hmmm, I've managed to fix it. The problem seems to be related to using > echo in the exit trap itself while both stderr and stdout are redirected > - e.g. via |& tee log > > If I change the echo in the trap function to /bin

Re: Problems with fresh 64 bit Debian 12.7

2024-09-28 Thread Andrew M.A. Cater
On Sat, Sep 28, 2024 at 11:35:34AM -0500, Richard Owlett wrote: > Underlying Problem: Debian is *TOO* good and reliable ;}! > 32 bit Debian 9.13 has given yeoman service. > But I want some features that weren't available in the Jurassic. > Having a low data cap, I went to local library and download

Problems with fresh 64 bit Debian 12.7

2024-09-28 Thread Richard Owlett
Underlying Problem: Debian is *TOO* good and reliable ;}! 32 bit Debian 9.13 has given yeoman service. But I want some features that weren't available in the Jurassic. Having a low data cap, I went to local library and downloaded [ seamonkey-2.53.19.en-US.linux-x86_64.tar.bz2 ]. This morning's in

Re: ifupdown and inet6 gateways for inet interfaces

2024-09-28 Thread Tim Woodall
On Fri, 27 Sep 2024, Andy Smith wrote: Hi, Here is a manual network setup I have created by use of the "ip" command: $ ip address show dev enX0 2: enX0: mtu 1500 qdisc mq state UP group default qlen 1000 link/ether 00:16:5e:00:02:39 brd ff:ff:ff:ff:ff:ff inet 85.119.82.225/32 scope glo

Re: Cleanup in a bash script

2024-09-28 Thread Tim Woodall
On Sat, 28 Sep 2024, Greg Wooledge wrote: On Sat, Sep 28, 2024 at 14:53:10 +0100, Tim Woodall wrote: Is there a way in bash to guarantee that a trap gets called for cleanup in a script? #!/bin/bash trap cleanup EXIT cleanup() { ... } This works in bash -- i.e., it calls the cleanup functi

Re: boot Debian Gnome, Debian KDE, and Mate, XFCE

2024-09-28 Thread George at Clug
Hi, I decided I should again test setting up 'multi boot linux installations' on a single PC with multiple disk drives, to verify my previous failures at doing this. The result of this test? It seems that Grub does a great job of booting from multiple linux installations. For testing I creat

Re: Cleanup in a bash script

2024-09-28 Thread Greg Wooledge
On Sat, Sep 28, 2024 at 15:17:47 +0100, Alain D D Williams wrote: > On Sat, Sep 28, 2024 at 10:13:59AM -0400, Greg Wooledge wrote: > > On Sat, Sep 28, 2024 at 14:53:10 +0100, Tim Woodall wrote: > > > Is there a way in bash to guarantee that a trap gets called for cleanup > > > in a script? > > > >

Re: Cleanup in a bash script

2024-09-28 Thread Alain D D Williams
On Sat, Sep 28, 2024 at 10:13:59AM -0400, Greg Wooledge wrote: > On Sat, Sep 28, 2024 at 14:53:10 +0100, Tim Woodall wrote: > > Is there a way in bash to guarantee that a trap gets called for cleanup > > in a script? > > #!/bin/bash > trap cleanup EXIT > cleanup() { > ... > } > > This works i

Re: Cleanup in a bash script

2024-09-28 Thread Greg Wooledge
On Sat, Sep 28, 2024 at 14:53:10 +0100, Tim Woodall wrote: > Is there a way in bash to guarantee that a trap gets called for cleanup > in a script? #!/bin/bash trap cleanup EXIT cleanup() { ... } This works in bash -- i.e., it calls the cleanup function regardless of whether the shell exits b

Re: Cleanup in a bash script

2024-09-28 Thread john doe
On 9/28/24 15:53, Tim Woodall wrote: Is there a way in bash to guarantee that a trap gets called for cleanup in a script? I have a script that works perfectly normally and cleans up after itself, even if it goes wrong. However on trying to debug something else, I wanted to run it like this: ./

Cleanup in a bash script

2024-09-28 Thread Tim Woodall
Is there a way in bash to guarantee that a trap gets called for cleanup in a script? I have a script that works perfectly normally and cleans up after itself, even if it goes wrong. However on trying to debug something else, I wanted to run it like this: ./script |& tee log and now it doesn't

Re: Color shifted desktop in testing with LXQt desktop

2024-09-28 Thread James Bielefeldt
Thanks for the suggestion, but it times out no matter what I do. Its a very old testing install that follows testing. Its likely fubar because of the move from qt5 to qt6. I will just have to rebuild the install, and its not hard if I save the config files. Its just finding the time now to do i

Re: Change file picker in browsers

2024-09-28 Thread J
My bad. See now. I will try thx "Each setting can have the following values: - 0 โ€“ Never - 1 โ€“ Always - 2 โ€“ Auto (typically depends on whether Firefox is run from within Flatpak or whether the GDK_DEBUG=portals environment is set)" ัะฑ,

Re: Change file picker in browsers

2024-09-28 Thread J
Thx all for the replies! Why is it 2 and 1, and not 0 and 1, is it not binary? Have a look at: > > https://wiki.archlinux.org/title/Firefox#XDG_Desktop_Portal_integration > > Changing widget.use-xdg-desktop-portal.file-picker in about:config from 2 > to 1 gives me the kde file picker. >