Re: BASH reference for those who are "learning by doing"?

2024-09-09 Thread jeremy ardley
On 10/9/24 08:13, Larry Martell wrote: What are these driving glasses? I can no longer drive at night and would love to know about them. They are glasses that are set to focus at long distance, so no good for desk. They correct for astigmatism, so at night instead of point lights such as

Re: BASH reference for those who are "learning by doing"?

2024-09-09 Thread Larry Martell
On Sun, Sep 8, 2024 at 7:07 PM jeremy ardley wrote: > > > > On 9/9/24 06:23, George at Clug wrote: > > If I required glasses for reading the car's speedometer, then I would > > definitely be using a bifocal pair of glasses. So far I can easily read > > the instrument panel, and since most of the t

Re: Matching grub data in the MBR with the installed grub-pc package

2024-09-09 Thread Andy Smith
On Mon, Sep 09, 2024 at 07:59:58PM +, Andy Smith wrote: > I was kind of hoping that there would be something I could run which > would say "yes, this MBR has grub v and is set to find its > grub.cfg on (hdX)", then I might be able to see some difference in > what the MBR of sda wants to do. I'm

Matching grub data in the MBR with the installed grub-pc package

2024-09-09 Thread Andy Smith
Hi, I've come into possession of a machine running Debian 10 with two drives in it; sda and sdb. These have been labelled with a DOS MBR and partitioned. The first partition starts at sector 2048 of both drives (512 byte sectors). It appears that GRUB has been installed on both sda and sdb: $ sud

Re: BASH reference for those who are "learning by doing"?

2024-09-09 Thread Charlie Gibbs
On Mon Sep 9 09:07:11 2024 Anssi Saari wrote: > debian-u...@howorth.org.uk writes: > >> As a mere bifocal (well vari-focal) wearer can I suggest a different >> approach. Stop wearing tri-focals or any other variable focus specs >> for reading a computer screen. Tell them to get a [very cheap] p

Re: Installing bookworm on an old HP laptop

2024-09-09 Thread Charles Curley
On Mon, 9 Sep 2024 15:32:19 +0200 wrote: > On Mon, Sep 09, 2024 at 07:17:37AM -0600, Charles Curley wrote: > > I concur with the netinst suggestions. > > > > On Mon, 09 Sep 2024 21:10:15 +1000 > > George at Clug wrote: > > > > > Sometimes I download the DVD because, over time, I will install

Re: BASH reference for those who are "learning by doing"?

2024-09-09 Thread eben
On 9/9/24 05:20, Karl Vogel wrote: On Mon 09 Sep 2024 at 04:47:20 (-0400), Anssi Saari wrote: I've used fixed focus glasses before but I find close range varifocals a huge upgrade. They're extremely useful for monitor work *and also* I can see and read things around me that fall outside the ext

Re: tab completion being overenthusiastic

2024-09-09 Thread David Wright
On Sat 07 Sep 2024 at 09:58:32 (-0400), e...@gmx.us wrote: > Got it. It was in ~/.bash-vars which was sourced from ~/.bash_profile . Is > that a standard thing, or just some "brilliant" idea I had once upon a time? If you mean the file itself, you might try stat ~/.bash-vars and looking at the

Re: Disk drive zero-fill benchmarks for various synchronization methods and block sizes

2024-09-09 Thread David Wright
On Mon 09 Sep 2024 at 11:52:19 (+0300), Anssi Saari wrote: > David Christensen writes: > > > 2. sync(1) is unnecessary. > > Does it even do anything wrt device files? sync(2) says "sync() causes > all pending modifications to filesystem metadata and cached file data to > be written to the under

Re: Why are module parameters under /etc/modprobe.d not respected?

2024-09-09 Thread Stefan Monnier
>> > options snd_hda_intel id=[HDMI,PCH] index=1,0 >> Might be you need to write with dashes, as the module files is named >> with dashes. > Thank you for the reply. However, dashes and underscores can be > interchanged in these files. FWIW: That's been my experience for the `modprobe` command arg

Re: Installing bookworm on an old HP laptop

2024-09-09 Thread tomas
On Mon, Sep 09, 2024 at 07:17:37AM -0600, Charles Curley wrote: > I concur with the netinst suggestions. > > On Mon, 09 Sep 2024 21:10:15 +1000 > George at Clug wrote: > > > Sometimes I download the DVD because, over time, I will install a > > number of times [...] > To solve this problem, I us

Re: Installing bookworm on an old HP laptop

2024-09-09 Thread Charles Curley
I concur with the netinst suggestions. On Mon, 09 Sep 2024 21:10:15 +1000 George at Clug wrote: > Sometimes I download the DVD because, over time, I will install a > number of times (for example, install a number of VMs to compare the > various GUIs), but I have found that by the time I get to u

Re: Installing bookworm on an old HP laptop

2024-09-09 Thread basti
On 09.09.24 13:10, George at Clug wrote: Have I managed to confuse you with my own confusion? Sorry if I did, but my gut feel is that the netinstall CD makes the most sense if you have access to the Internet while doing the installation (unless your will be doing 20 or more installations on the

Re: Installing bookworm on an old HP laptop

2024-09-09 Thread Michael Kjörling
On 9 Sep 2024 11:08 +0100, from recoverymail123...@gmail.com (Mick Ab): > I think I have enough RAM and hard drive to accommodate bookworm, but I am > not sure whether my laptop has the other hardware needed to run bookworm. I'm not familiar with your particular laptop, but if it runs Windows 7, i

Re: BASH reference for those who are "learning by doing"?

2024-09-09 Thread Richard Owlett
On 09/09/2024 06:29 AM, Richard Owlett wrote: On 09/08/2024 12:22 PM, Yassine Chaouche wrote: Missed (deleted) the start of the discussion. Not sure if it helps but: I juste made public my toolbox.txt file: https://ychaouche.github.io/toolbox.txt it is meant to be open in emacs, so that you c

Re: Glasses for monitor work (was Re: BASH reference for those who are "learning by doing"?)

2024-09-09 Thread Richard Owlett
On 09/08/2024 12:12 PM, Stephen P. Molnar wrote: On 09/08/2024 12:17 PM, Steve McIntyre wrote: debian-u...@howorth.org.uk wrote: Richard Owlett wrote: [My examples are from my experiments with re-formatting text at https://ebible.org/engkjvcpb/ for comfortable reading by fellow tri-focal we

Re: BASH reference for those who are "learning by doing"?

2024-09-09 Thread Richard Owlett
On 09/08/2024 12:22 PM, Yassine Chaouche wrote: Missed (deleted) the start of the discussion. Not sure if it helps but: I juste made public my toolbox.txt file: https://ychaouche.github.io/toolbox.txt it is meant to be open in emacs, so that you can use its outliner mode and read only what you

Re: Installing bookworm on an old HP laptop

2024-09-09 Thread George at Clug
On Monday, 09-09-2024 at 20:08 Mick Ab wrote: > I am interested in installing bookworm alongside the current Windows 7 on > an old HP ProBook 6570b laptop. > > I am thinking of downloading the first two DVDs of bookworm from one of the > Debian mirror sites, then copying that to two DVD-R discs

Re: Installing bookworm on an old HP laptop

2024-09-09 Thread Joe
On Mon, 9 Sep 2024 11:08:29 +0100 Mick Ab wrote: > I am interested in installing bookworm alongside the current Windows > 7 on an old HP ProBook 6570b laptop. > > I am thinking of downloading the first two DVDs of bookworm from one > of the Debian mirror sites, then copying that to two DVD-R dis

Re: Installing bookworm on an old HP laptop

2024-09-09 Thread George at Clug
On Monday, 09-09-2024 at 20:28 basti wrote: > Hello, > > i would use debian netinstall: https://www.debian.org/CD/netinst/ rather > than download the whole DVD. I have often wondered that question myself. If you are doing a single installation and have access to the internet while doing the

Re: Installing bookworm on an old HP laptop

2024-09-09 Thread basti
Hello, i would use debian netinstall: https://www.debian.org/CD/netinst/ rather than download the whole DVD. Best regards On 09.09.24 12:08, Mick Ab wrote: I am interested in installing bookworm alongside the current Windows 7 on an old HP ProBook 6570b laptop. I am thinking of downloadin

Installing bookworm on an old HP laptop

2024-09-09 Thread Mick Ab
I am interested in installing bookworm alongside the current Windows 7 on an old HP ProBook 6570b laptop. I am thinking of downloading the first two DVDs of bookworm from one of the Debian mirror sites, then copying that to two DVD-R discs and installing bookworm those two discs. I think I have e

Re: BASH reference for those who are "learning by doing"?

2024-09-09 Thread George at Clug
On Monday, 09-09-2024 at 19:20 Karl Vogel wrote: > On Mon 09 Sep 2024 at 04:47:20 (-0400), Anssi Saari wrote: > > debian-u...@howorth.org.uk writes: > > > > > As a mere bifocal (well vari-focal) wearer can I suggest a different > > > approach. Stop wearing tri-focals or any other variable focus

Re: BASH reference for those who are "learning by doing"?

2024-09-09 Thread George at Clug
On Monday, 09-09-2024 at 18:46 Anssi Saari wrote: > debian-u...@howorth.org.uk writes: > > > As a mere bifocal (well vari-focal) wearer can I suggest a different > > approach. Stop wearing tri-focals or any other variable focus specs for > > reading a computer screen. Tell them to get a [very c

Re: BASH reference for those who are "learning by doing"?

2024-09-09 Thread Karl Vogel
On Mon 09 Sep 2024 at 04:47:20 (-0400), Anssi Saari wrote: > debian-u...@howorth.org.uk writes: > > > As a mere bifocal (well vari-focal) wearer can I suggest a different > > approach. Stop wearing tri-focals or any other variable focus specs for > > reading a computer screen. Tell them to get a [

Re: Disk drive zero-fill benchmarks for various synchronization methods and block sizes

2024-09-09 Thread Anssi Saari
David Christensen writes: > 2. sync(1) is unnecessary. Does it even do anything wrt device files? sync(2) says "sync() causes all pending modifications to filesystem metadata and cached file data to be written to the underlying filesystems."

Re: BASH reference for those who are "learning by doing"?

2024-09-09 Thread Anssi Saari
debian-u...@howorth.org.uk writes: > As a mere bifocal (well vari-focal) wearer can I suggest a different > approach. Stop wearing tri-focals or any other variable focus specs for > reading a computer screen. Tell them to get a [very cheap] pair of > single focus reading glasses made to suit the d

Re: linux-image-6.10.6 fails to build in nvidia-tesla-470

2024-09-09 Thread David
On Mon, 2024-09-09 at 11:04 +0300, Anssi Saari wrote: > Charles Curley writes: > > > apt purge linux-image-amd64 linux-headers-amd64 > > apt install linux-image-amd64 linux-headers-amd64 > > > > You may want an "apt autopurge" in between. > > That should do it although it's apt autoremove  `ap

Re: linux-image-6.10.6 fails to build in nvidia-tesla-470

2024-09-09 Thread David
On Mon, 2024-09-09 at 11:04 +0300, Anssi Saari wrote: > Charles Curley writes: > > > apt purge linux-image-amd64 linux-headers-amd64 > > apt install linux-image-amd64 linux-headers-amd64 > > > > You may want an "apt autopurge" in between. > > That should do it although it's apt autoremove  `ap

Re: linux-image-6.10.6 fails to build in nvidia-tesla-470

2024-09-09 Thread Anssi Saari
Charles Curley writes: > apt purge linux-image-amd64 linux-headers-amd64 > apt install linux-image-amd64 linux-headers-amd64 > > You may want an "apt autopurge" in between. That should do it although it's apt autoremove I believe but if not you can explicitly remove the backport kernel image and