Re: Usage: "debian ... amd64-netinst.iso"

2024-09-04 Thread tomas
On Wed, Sep 04, 2024 at 08:31:09PM -0400, Michael Stone wrote: > On Mon, Sep 02, 2024 at 08:30:03PM +0200, to...@tuxteam.de wrote: [...] > > This is exactly why I'm always trying to "sell" the "oflag=sync" option of > > dd [...] > It's a waste of time but if you make it happy you do you. Please

Re: Need advice on a usable, inexpensive laptop for Debian

2024-09-04 Thread tomas
On Thu, Sep 05, 2024 at 06:30:25AM +0200, to...@tuxteam.de wrote: [...] > Currently I buy them at a brick-and-mortar store in my city [...] And, oh, by default they come empty or with pre-installed Ubuntu. You can order them with Windows, but this costs extra (as it should be). Cheers -- t s

Re: Need advice on a usable, inexpensive laptop for Debian

2024-09-04 Thread tomas
On Wed, Sep 04, 2024 at 10:18:53PM +, Andrew M.A. Cater wrote: > On Wed, Sep 04, 2024 at 05:04:33PM -0500, Tom Browder wrote: > > I'm trying to propose a computer lab for young wannabe coders, and I want > > to use a Linux box (I prefer Debian, but I get the feeling Ubuntu is more > > familiar

Re: Usage: "debian ... amd64-netinst.iso"

2024-09-04 Thread Max Nikulin
On 03/09/2024 00:11, The Wanderer wrote: On 2024-09-02 at 12:51, Lee wrote: On Mon, Sep 2, 2024 at 5:25 AM Thomas Schmitt wrote: MS-Windows can eject a stick ? [...] (Sorry i could not refrain from this nonsense :)) but it isn't nonsense. Welcome to the world of Windowz, where one 'ejects

Re: Usage: "debian ... amd64-netinst.iso"

2024-09-04 Thread Michael Stone
On Mon, Sep 02, 2024 at 08:30:03PM +0200, to...@tuxteam.de wrote: On Mon, Sep 02, 2024 at 01:49:03PM -0400, Michael Stone wrote: On Mon, Sep 02, 2024 at 01:11:24PM -0400, The Wanderer wrote: > I have always treated the *nix equivalent to "eject", for the purpose of > a USB flash drive, as being

Re: MAC filter

2024-09-04 Thread Tim Woodall
On Wed, 4 Sep 2024, Andy Smith wrote: Hi, On Wed, Sep 04, 2024 at 04:29:00AM +, Tim Woodall wrote: Every reply I've seen talks about local macs. To be honest I had trouble parsing the original post as a cohesive English text. I mean it had words I understood, just not in that particular

Re: Need advice on a usable, inexpensive laptop for Debian

2024-09-04 Thread Russell L. Harris
For inexpensive, low-mileage, office-quality machines (laptop & desktop) try blairtech.com. You'll get a W10 or W11 machine.

Re: Need advice on a usable, inexpensive laptop for Debian

2024-09-04 Thread Tom Browder
On Wed, Sep 4, 2024 at 17:47 Charles Curley ... What did you replace the H&R Block program with? Free TaxUSA, recommended by my lawyer son. it's free, but I paid extra (still less that H&R) for some extra features. It worked great for 2023, I will use it again for 2024. Note I've been audited t

Re: Need advice on a usable, inexpensive laptop for Debian

2024-09-04 Thread Eike Lantzsch ZP5CGE / KY4PZ
On Wednesday, 4 September 2024 18:47:25 -04 Charles Curley wrote: > On Wed, 4 Sep 2024 17:04:33 -0500 > > Tom Browder wrote: > > I am torn with whether dual boot is the way to go, given all the > > problems I see with dual boot with Windows now. (I finally dumped > > Windows entirely some months a

Re: Need advice on a usable, inexpensive laptop for Debian

2024-09-04 Thread Charles Curley
On Wed, 4 Sep 2024 17:04:33 -0500 Tom Browder wrote: > I am torn with whether dual boot is the way to go, given all the > problems I see with dual boot with Windows now. (I finally dumped > Windows entirely some months ago when I found a decent, modern > replacement for Microsoft Word and for the

Re: Need advice on a usable, inexpensive laptop for Debian

2024-09-04 Thread Alain D D Williams
On Wed, Sep 04, 2024 at 05:04:33PM -0500, Tom Browder wrote: > I'm trying to propose a computer lab for young wannabe coders, and I want > to use a Linux box (I prefer Debian, but I get the feeling Ubuntu is more > familiar with school systems and other institutions). I suggest an HP stream. I got

Re: Need advice on a usable, inexpensive laptop for Debian

2024-09-04 Thread Andrew M.A. Cater
On Wed, Sep 04, 2024 at 05:04:33PM -0500, Tom Browder wrote: > I'm trying to propose a computer lab for young wannabe coders, and I want > to use a Linux box (I prefer Debian, but I get the feeling Ubuntu is more > familiar with school systems and other institutions). > If you're going to set it

Re: Need advice on a usable, inexpensive laptop for Debian

2024-09-04 Thread Pierre-Elliott Bécue
Tom Browder wrote on 05/09/2024 at 00:04:33+0200: > I'm trying to propose a computer lab for young wannabe coders, and I > want to use a Linux box (I prefer Debian, but I get the feeling Ubuntu > is more familiar with school systems and other institutions). > > I am torn with whether dual boot is

Need advice on a usable, inexpensive laptop for Debian

2024-09-04 Thread Tom Browder
I'm trying to propose a computer lab for young wannabe coders, and I want to use a Linux box (I prefer Debian, but I get the feeling Ubuntu is more familiar with school systems and other institutions). I am torn with whether dual boot is the way to go, given all the problems I see with dual boot w

Re: Usage: "debian ... amd64-netinst.iso"

2024-09-04 Thread Thomas Schmitt
Hi, Franco Martelli wrote: > I was testing the procedure in a virtual machine, the first "gpg --keyserver > keyring.debian.org ..." command fails because I hadn't imported the public > keys. Hm. I expected that --keyserver keyring.debian.org would avoid the need for importing keys to the local

Re: Usage: "debian ... amd64-netinst.iso"

2024-09-04 Thread Franco Martelli
On 03/09/24 at 18:45, Thomas Schmitt wrote: Hi, due to popular resistence i created a new wiki page https://wiki.debian.org/VerifyISOImage with the content which i would propose to https://www.debian.org/CD/faq/#verify Regrettably i was unable to mimick the bullet list paragraphs of the F

Re: Usage: "debian ... amd64-netinst.iso"

2024-09-04 Thread Thomas Schmitt
Hi, Max Nikulin wrote: > "shellcheck -e SC2006" (to silence complains concerning ``) suggests double > quotes around "$file" > sum_from_file=`dd if=$file bs=2048 count=$blocks | $checksummer | head -1 | > awk '{print $1}'` Indeed. Some variable evaluations slipped through unquoted. Two others are

Re: Usage: "debian ... amd64-netinst.iso"

2024-09-04 Thread Greg Wooledge
On Wed, Sep 04, 2024 at 12:57:52 +, David wrote: > On Wed, 4 Sept 2024 at 11:03, Max Nikulin wrote: > > On 04/09/2024 15:17, Thomas Schmitt wrote: > > > In /tmp/check_debian_iso line 153: > > sum_from_file=`dd if=$file bs=2048 count=$blocks | $checksummer | head > > -1 | awk '{print $1}'` > >

Re: Usage: "debian ... amd64-netinst.iso"

2024-09-04 Thread David
On Wed, 4 Sept 2024 at 11:03, Max Nikulin wrote: > On 04/09/2024 15:17, Thomas Schmitt wrote: > In /tmp/check_debian_iso line 153: > sum_from_file=`dd if=$file bs=2048 count=$blocks | $checksummer | head > -1 | awk '{print $1}'` > ^---^ SC2086 (info): Double quote to prevent

Re: MAC filter

2024-09-04 Thread Jonathan Dowland
On Mon Sep 2, 2024 at 8:52 PM BST, Geert Stappers wrote: > $ ip --brief link That is *so* much more legible than the standard output it's a shame it wasn't the default. I've resisted internalising usage of `ip` under the vague hope that it will eventually be displaced by something friendlier to re

Re: Usage: "debian ... amd64-netinst.iso"

2024-09-04 Thread Max Nikulin
On 04/09/2024 15:17, Thomas Schmitt wrote: I tried "*" for bullet list. But it works only for a single line, not for a multi-line text paragraph as on https://www.debian.org/CD/faq/#verify I do not see anything special there. I have tried to convert to a bullet a random paragraph from the n

Re: MAC filter

2024-09-04 Thread Andy Smith
Hi, On Wed, Sep 04, 2024 at 04:29:00AM +, Tim Woodall wrote: > Every reply I've seen talks about local macs. To be honest I had trouble parsing the original post as a cohesive English text. I mean it had words I understood, just not in that particular combination. > Don't know a good way on

Re: Usage: "debian ... amd64-netinst.iso"

2024-09-04 Thread Thomas Schmitt
Hi, Max Nikulin wrote: > Do you mean something like > ? > * Item > {{{ > code > }}} I tried "*" for bullet list. But it works only for a single line, not for a multi-line text paragraph as on https://www.debian.org/CD/faq/#verify I wr