Re: Usage: "debian ... amd64-netinst.iso"

2024-09-02 Thread David Wright
On Mon 02 Sep 2024 at 11:16:53 (-0400), Michael Stone wrote: > On Sun, Sep 01, 2024 at 09:58:22AM -0500, David Wright wrote: > > > On Sat, Aug 31, 2024 at 09:59:47PM -0500, David Wright wrote: > > > > On Sat 31 Aug 2024 at 14:09:45 (-0400), Lee wrote: > > > > > On Sat, Aug 31, 2024 at 1:31 AM John

question re apparmor

2024-09-02 Thread gene heskett
Just got a popup that quickly faded, checked dmesg, found this: [ 61.521774] audit: type=1400 audit(1725204436.106:36): apparmor="DENIED" operation="unlink" profile="/usr/bin/akonadiserver" name="/home/gene/.local/share/akonadi/socket-coyote-default" pid=3405 comm="akonadiserver" requested_ma

Re: Usage: "debian ... amd64-netinst.iso"

2024-09-02 Thread Max Nikulin
On 03/09/2024 03:32, Thomas Schmitt wrote: Franco Martelli wrote: consider to move that to a new wiki page with a title that sounds like: "Verify authenticity of a Debian downloaded ISO image". [...] But i think there are some issues to address: - How to generally advertise this page ? Link

Re: MAC filter

2024-09-02 Thread Stefan Monnier
> And if you're interested in only the interface name and MAC address, pipe > that result to awk, so... > > ip -br l | awk '{print $1,$3}' Note that the $3 won't always be a MAC address: % ip --brief link lo UNKNOWN00:00:00:00:00:00 [...] tun0 U

Re: MAC filter

2024-09-02 Thread gene heskett
On 9/1/24 23:41, John Conover wrote: The MAC filter needs a local filter for the two 16 X dual hex, (23 total,) digits. The MAC is router usually aligned internally by the router, and contains unique hex digits. Does any anyone recall how to query the digits to the display? Thanks,

Re: Any good Debian books highly recommended

2024-09-02 Thread hohe72
Hi, here is no such thing like a Computer book what covers everything. So go for an general purpose UNIX book. Then for an advanced one covering Linux or Debian. Maybe an Admin Guide. Because an Beginners Guide cannot cover every Shell available in detail, you might buy a guide to your favoured s

Re: Direct Messaging

2024-09-02 Thread Charles Curley
On Sat, 31 Aug 2024 08:26:16 -0500 Tom Browder wrote: > Anyone know of a way to send text messages to willing recipients from > one’s own website and server without hiring DM provider? In the US, many mobile phone providers will accept emails to "phone num...@some.tld", and send them as text me

Re: MAC filter

2024-09-02 Thread Tom Furie
On Mon, Sep 02, 2024 at 09:52:23PM +0200, Geert Stappers wrote: > On Mon, Sep 02, 2024 at 12:27:52PM +, Andy Smith wrote: > > $ ip -j link | jq '.[] | select(.address) | .ifname + ": " + .address' > > "lo: 00:00:00:00:00:00" > > For what it is worth: > > $ ip --brief link > lo

Re: Usage: "debian ... amd64-netinst.iso"

2024-09-02 Thread Thomas Schmitt
Hi, Franco Martelli wrote: > What you wrote in that section it's so searched/wanted by newcomers that > it's a pity that it's published as a section into "XorrisoDdTarget". Actually it is not the first time that i felt the urge to describe the SHA and PGP verification: https://wiki.debian.org/

Re: MAC filter

2024-09-02 Thread Geert Stappers
On Mon, Sep 02, 2024 at 12:27:52PM +, Andy Smith wrote: > On Sun, Sep 01, 2024 at 08:40:31PM -0700, John Conover wrote: > > The MAC is router usually aligned internally by the router, and > > contains unique hex digits. > > > > Does any anyone recall how to query the digits to the display? >

Re: Usage: "debian ... amd64-netinst.iso"

2024-09-02 Thread eben
On 9/2/24 13:11, The Wanderer wrote: I have always treated the *nix equivalent to "eject", for the purpose of a USB flash drive, as being 'umount /path/to/mount/location' - which, if I'm not mistaken, does include an implicit sync operation. Thunar has "Safely Remove", which not only does sync

Re: Usage: "debian ... amd64-netinst.iso"

2024-09-02 Thread Franco Martelli
On 02/09/24 at 13:01, Thomas Schmitt wrote: Hi, i added a new section https://wiki.debian.org/XorrisoDdTarget#How_to_verify_the_result instead of a mere link because i deem the Debian instructions too scattered for being suitable for already puzzled and stressed users. I would appreciate che

Re: Usage: "debian ... amd64-netinst.iso"

2024-09-02 Thread tomas
On Mon, Sep 02, 2024 at 01:49:03PM -0400, Michael Stone wrote: > On Mon, Sep 02, 2024 at 01:11:24PM -0400, The Wanderer wrote: > > I have always treated the *nix equivalent to "eject", for the purpose of > > a USB flash drive, as being 'umount /path/to/mount/location' - which, if > > I'm not mistak

Re: printer replacement

2024-09-02 Thread Brad Rogers
On Mon, 02 Sep 2024 15:04:40 +0100 Steve McIntyre wrote: Hello Steve, >expensive ink and toner lockin thing is a good reason to never give HP >money again. There has been lock in in the past (more than once, IIRC) but I use 3rd party ink carts in my machine without issue. The so-called subscrip

Re: Usage: "debian ... amd64-netinst.iso"

2024-09-02 Thread Michael Stone
On Mon, Sep 02, 2024 at 01:11:24PM -0400, The Wanderer wrote: I have always treated the *nix equivalent to "eject", for the purpose of a USB flash drive, as being 'umount /path/to/mount/location' - which, if I'm not mistaken, does include an implicit sync operation. Yes. Windows actually does h

Re: Usage: "debian ... amd64-netinst.iso"

2024-09-02 Thread The Wanderer
On 2024-09-02 at 12:51, Lee wrote: > On Mon, Sep 2, 2024 at 5:25 AM Thomas Schmitt wrote: > >> Hi, >> >> Lee wrote: >> >>> Oops.. I wrote to the stick using the Cygwin cp on an >>> MS-Windows machine, so I'm guessing the damage was done even >>> before ejecting the stick. >> >> MS-Windows can ej

Re: Usage: "debian ... amd64-netinst.iso"

2024-09-02 Thread Lee
On Mon, Sep 2, 2024 at 5:25 AM Thomas Schmitt wrote: > > Hi, > > Lee wrote: > > Oops.. I wrote to the stick using the Cygwin cp on an MS-Windows > > machine, so I'm guessing the damage was done even before ejecting the > > stick. > > MS-Windows can eject a stick ? > xorriso silently fails to do so

Re: Usage: "debian ... amd64-netinst.iso"

2024-09-02 Thread Hans
> That sounds like really bad hardware. Mind to share manufacturer name > and model name ? > > (I have a 2 GB Intenso model "USB", a 4 GB SanDisk Cruzer, > a 8 GB Corsair Flash Voyager, and a 128 GB Intenso Ultra Line. > They all are more than 5 years old. I use them rarely, except for the > Cor

Re: Usage: "debian ... amd64-netinst.iso"

2024-09-02 Thread Michael Stone
On Sun, Sep 01, 2024 at 05:20:41PM +0200, Hans wrote: So your command line would read … # … … Cheers, David. I believe, instead of using dd for copying to the usb-stick, one might want to use dcfldd for it. dcfldd is en enhanced version of dd with hashsum check during copy. It was created

Re: Usage: "debian ... amd64-netinst.iso"

2024-09-02 Thread Michael Stone
On Sun, Sep 01, 2024 at 09:58:22AM -0500, David Wright wrote: On Sat, Aug 31, 2024 at 09:59:47PM -0500, David Wright wrote: > On Sat 31 Aug 2024 at 14:09:45 (-0400), Lee wrote: > > On Sat, Aug 31, 2024 at 1:31 AM John Conover wrote: > > > > > > What does a "debian ... amd64-netinst.iso" do > > >

Re: Usage: "debian ... amd64-netinst.iso"

2024-09-02 Thread Max Nikulin
On 31/08/2024 14:07, Thomas Schmitt wrote: https://wiki.debian.org/XorrisoDdTarget Disclaimer: I prefer non-destructive way of making bootable media. For UEFI it is just copying files, for BIOS it requires some commands like syslinux and editing of grub configuration. Perhaps I just have not

Re: Usage: "debian ... amd64-netinst.iso"

2024-09-02 Thread Thomas Schmitt
Hi, Hans wrote: > What I meant is more a desciption, > why xorriso-dd-target is better than dd or dcfldd. xorriso-dd-target is effectively a frontend to lsblk, umount, and dd. Insofar i deem dd to be sufficient but not necessarily superior to other programs which can copy data to a USB stick or m

Re: Usage: "debian ... amd64-netinst.iso"

2024-09-02 Thread Hans
> I've had some thumb drives die and that might be the cause. Have you noticed > any patterns? > > -- > Your pretended fear lest error might step in is like the man who > would keep all wine out of the country lest men should be drunk. >-- Oliver Cro

Re: Usage: "debian ... amd64-netinst.iso"

2024-09-02 Thread eben
On 9/2/24 07:23, Hans wrote: A little side effect of this was, that some manufacturers obviously do not like ext2/3/4 format (to which the usb-stick were reformatted). After about 10th to 15th time of reformate, they died (memory segments got lost). Others I already during years are reformatted a

Re: Usage: "debian ... amd64-netinst.iso"

2024-09-02 Thread Hans
Hi Thomas, > That's the actual topic of that wiki page. > Just scroll up and read it from start. maybe I did not express myself well enough. What I meant is more a desciption, why xorriso-dd-target is better than dd or dcfldd. Just a little comparision, which advantages your way got or disadva

Re: MAC filter

2024-09-02 Thread Andy Smith
Hi, On Sun, Sep 01, 2024 at 08:40:31PM -0700, John Conover wrote: > The MAC is router usually aligned internally by the router, and > contains unique hex digits. > > Does any anyone recall how to query the digits to the display? $ ip -j link | jq '.[] | select(.address) | .ifname + ": " + .addre

Re: Usage: "debian ... amd64-netinst.iso"

2024-09-02 Thread Thomas Schmitt
Hi, Hans wrote: > Maybe you might want to add a suggestion for readers, which might be the > best way, to get an ISO to an usb-stick? That's the actual topic of that wiki page. Just scroll up and read it from start. > The debian manual suggests using the "dd" command and claims, not to use > Ru

Re: Usage: "debian ... amd64-netinst.iso"

2024-09-02 Thread Hans
Am Montag, 2. September 2024, 13:01:43 CEST schrieb Thomas Schmitt: > Hi, > > i added a new section > https://wiki.debian.org/XorrisoDdTarget#How_to_verify_the_result > instead of a mere link because i deem the Debian instructions too > scattered for being suitable for already puzzled and stress

Re: Usage: "debian ... amd64-netinst.iso"

2024-09-02 Thread Thomas Schmitt
Hi, i added a new section https://wiki.debian.org/XorrisoDdTarget#How_to_verify_the_result instead of a mere link because i deem the Debian instructions too scattered for being suitable for already puzzled and stressed users. I would appreciate checkreading of this new section by interested bys

Re: Usage: "debian ... amd64-netinst.iso"

2024-09-02 Thread Thomas Schmitt
Hi, i wrote about https://wiki.debian.org/DebianInstaller/CreateUSBMedia : > - It does not mention that superuser powers are needed for copying > to /dev/sdX and that a wrong substitute for X can spoil a big > spinning disk if present. I did not pay enough attention to the preamble, which war

Re: KDE - Wayland vs X11

2024-09-02 Thread George at Clug
On Monday, 02-09-2024 at 18:03 Nicolas George wrote: > Dan Ritter (12024-09-01): > > It is unlikely that X will be actually abandoned until all of > > these problems with Wayland are solved. > > oneko and xeyes do not work properly with Wayland, that is definitely a > deal breaker. Thanks for

Re: MAC filter

2024-09-02 Thread Timothy M Butterworth
On Mon, Sep 2, 2024 at 5:00 AM John Conover wrote: > > The MAC filter needs a local filter for the two 16 X dual hex, (23 > total,) digits. > > The MAC is router usually aligned internally by the router, and > contains unique hex digits. > > Does any anyone recall how to query the digits to the d

Re: MAC filter

2024-09-02 Thread Jeffrey Walton
On Mon, Sep 2, 2024 at 3:45 AM John Conover wrote: > > > The MAC filter needs a local filter for the two 16 X dual hex, (23 > total,) digits. > > The MAC is router usually aligned internally by the router, and > contains unique hex digits. > > Does any anyone recall how to query the digits to the

RE: [HP][Debian Strixie] Unable to install Debian with GUI interface

2024-09-02 Thread Tsai, Letitia (CW)
Hi Ritter, Yes, it works with the table version (Bookworm) Just want to report as a reminder before official release. Regards, Letitia From: Dan Ritter Sent: Thursday, August 29, 2024 8:22 PM To: Tsai, Letitia (CW) Cc: debian-user@lists.debian.org Subject: Re: [HP][Debian Strixie] Unable to in

Re: KDE - Wayland vs X11

2024-09-02 Thread Erwan David
On Mon, Sep 02, 2024 at 10:03:32AM CEST, Nicolas George said: > Dan Ritter (12024-09-01): > > It is unlikely that X will be actually abandoned until all of > > these problems with Wayland are solved. > > oneko and xeyes do not work properly with Wayland, that is definitely a > deal breaker. > >

Re: Usage: "debian ... amd64-netinst.iso"

2024-09-02 Thread Thomas Schmitt
Hi, i wrote: > >https://wiki.debian.org/XorrisoDdTarget Max Nikulin wrote: > Is there a reason why the page is not cross-linked with > ? After skimming over that page, i see problems: - It links to https://www.debian.org/devel/debian-i

Re: KDE - Wayland vs X11

2024-09-02 Thread Nicolas George
Dan Ritter (12024-09-01): > It is unlikely that X will be actually abandoned until all of > these problems with Wayland are solved. oneko and xeyes do not work properly with Wayland, that is definitely a deal breaker. Regards, -- Nicolas George

Re: Laptop screen dim on battery power

2024-09-02 Thread Hans
Soe Windowmagaers got theire own powermanagement, i.e. KDE is susing powerdevil. Do not know, if its settings also effect the konsole without X. You could also check acpi settings, maybe you will find something there. Just an idea Best Hans