Max Nikulin (12024-08-21):
> Do you mean 3rd party bootloader (e.g. grub)?
There is nothing “3rd party” about GRUB.
> I was responding to "AIUI
> UEFI/GPT were designed to support multi-boot".
Yes, and so was I. If you want half a dozen different GRU
On Wed, Aug 21, 2024 at 02:18:44AM CEST, Greg Wooledge said:
> On Tue, Aug 20, 2024 at 20:04:11 -0400, Roberto C. Sánchez wrote:
> > sync && sync && sync && swapoff
> >
> > I couldn't tell why I have sync 3 times, but I know that it's how I've
> > called swapoff since as far back as I can remembe
Max Nikulin composed on 2024-08-21 10:54 (UTC+0700):
> I was experimenting trying to get 2
> entries from the same vendor in the UEFI (firmware) boot menu and found
> it tricky and inconvenient.
How so? I found it quite simple to edit /etc/default/grub and replace the
default
value of GRUB_DIS
On 20/08/2024 22:50, Nicolas George wrote:
Max Nikulin (12024-08-20):
Single EFI System Partition may contain loaders from different vendors, but
not 2 Debian systems installed on different partitions.
This is not true. The only problem you will have with this setup is that
you will need to in
On 21/08/2024 03:42, Gary Dale wrote:
$ systemctl status tigervncserver@:1.service
○ tigervncserver@:1.service - Remote desktop service (VNC)
Loaded: loaded (/usr/lib/systemd/system/tigervncserver@.service;
enabled; preset: enabled)
Active: inactive (dead) since Tue 2024-08-20 15:52:
On Tue, Aug 20, 2024 at 20:04:11 -0400, Roberto C. Sánchez wrote:
> sync && sync && sync && swapoff
>
> I couldn't tell why I have sync 3 times, but I know that it's how I've
> called swapoff since as far back as I can remember.
Cargo cult. It was never useful to the best of my knowledge.
On Tue, Aug 20, 2024 at 11:34:32PM +, Thorsten Glaser wrote:
>
> Just adding a “sleep” is no proper fix anyway, so the question
> is, how to wait in a shell script until the swap device is
> *really* swapoff’d when the syscall returns too early, and
> (someone from the Linux kernel maintainers
(Please d̲o̲ Cc me on replies, I don’t subscribe to this list. Thanks!)
Hi,
this is a bit curious problem:
I have a setup with swap devices on dmcrypt:
$ cat /etc/crypttab
#
crtpv LABEL=fooclvm nonediscard,luks,initramfs
cswp1 /dev/vg-f
fxkl4...@protonmail.com wrote:
> On Tue, 20 Aug 2024, Dan Ritter wrote:
>
> > fxkl4...@protonmail.com wrote:
> >> i have a video capture card with 4 separate chips
> >> when i start up i get bttv0 - bttv3
> >> i'm getting a lot of errors in syslog on bttv2 and bttv3
> >> like
> >> bttv: 2: timeou
On Tue, 20 Aug 2024, Dan Ritter wrote:
> fxkl4...@protonmail.com wrote:
>> i have a video capture card with 4 separate chips
>> when i start up i get bttv0 - bttv3
>> i'm getting a lot of errors in syslog on bttv2 and bttv3
>> like
>> bttv: 2: timeout: drop=3888442 irq=27910652/28054718, risc=338f
fxkl4...@protonmail.com wrote:
> i have a video capture card with 4 separate chips
> when i start up i get bttv0 - bttv3
> i'm getting a lot of errors in syslog on bttv2 and bttv3
> like
> bttv: 2: timeout: drop=3888442 irq=27910652/28054718, risc=338f048c, bits:
> HSYNC
> bttv: 3: timeout: drop=
Andy Smith wrote:
> Just as some free advice though…
>
> 1. I find it hard to believe you have more than 2000 Debian installs
>without some sort of existing automation / configuration
>management
>
> 2. Given (1), I would approach the task by learning your config
>management and modi
On 2024-08-20 16:42, Gary Dale wrote:
On 2024-08-20 15:41, Greg Wooledge wrote:
On Tue, Aug 20, 2024 at 15:28:40 -0400, Gary Dale wrote:
Look, I know the executable is vncserver. The question is how do I
get the
service to specify parameters when starting the service? I can start
is from
the c
Since I installed a GTX 970 and the Nvidia driver on my Bookworm (12)
system, I've noticed some odd behavior. I'll start with the most obnoxious.
I'm open to any ideas. Well, not _any_ any.
1. Last night before I went to bed I suspended my computer at 2:24:55. The
next log message is at 7:08:
On 2024-08-20 15:41, Greg Wooledge wrote:
On Tue, Aug 20, 2024 at 15:28:40 -0400, Gary Dale wrote:
Look, I know the executable is vncserver. The question is how do I get the
service to specify parameters when starting the service? I can start is from
the command line as "vncserver -localhost no"
On 8/20/24 12:29, Jeffrey Walton wrote:
On Tue, Aug 20, 2024 at 11:51 AM Nicolas George wrote:
[...]
EFI files are signed
for Secure Boot, so vendor paths can not be easily adjusted.
Secure boot is a joke when it comes to security, it
On 08/20/2024 02:39 PM, Andrew M.A. Cater wrote:
On Tue, Aug 20, 2024 at 12:39:30PM -0500, Richard Owlett wrote:
I'm confused.
I have 2 old-fashioned 32 bit i386 machines.
What is/will be last release with installer?
TIA
Richard,
The last point release of Debian 12 - probably 12.11 or 12.12
On Tue, Aug 20, 2024 at 15:28:40 -0400, Gary Dale wrote:
> Look, I know the executable is vncserver. The question is how do I get the
> service to specify parameters when starting the service? I can start is from
> the command line as "vncserver -localhost no" but then I'd have to use cron
> to set
On Tue, Aug 20, 2024 at 12:39:30PM -0500, Richard Owlett wrote:
> I'm confused.
> I have 2 old-fashioned 32 bit i386 machines.
> What is/will be last release with installer?
> TIA
>
Richard,
The last point release of Debian 12 - probably 12.11 or 12.12 if we keep up
the release cadence we're foll
On 2024-08-20 15:15, Greg Wooledge wrote:
On Tue, Aug 20, 2024 at 15:04:11 -0400, Gary Dale wrote:
On 2024-08-19 22:27, Max Nikulin wrote:
On 20/08/2024 05:15, Gary Dale wrote:
tigervnc-server has a command line option to listen to the LAN but
the Debian systemd service configuration doesn't i
On Tue, Aug 20, 2024 at 15:04:11 -0400, Gary Dale wrote:
> On 2024-08-19 22:27, Max Nikulin wrote:
> > On 20/08/2024 05:15, Gary Dale wrote:
> > > tigervnc-server has a command line option to listen to the LAN but
> > > the Debian systemd service configuration doesn't invoke the server
> > > progra
I have a preseed file set up to do a lot of the installation process
for me. However, I still have to customize it for each machine, e.g.
host name. I then do the disk partition layout manually during the
installation.
What I would like to do is have a file with the standard parts of the
setup, an
On 2024-08-19 22:27, Max Nikulin wrote:
On 20/08/2024 05:15, Gary Dale wrote:
tigervnc-server has a command line option to listen to the LAN but
the Debian systemd service configuration doesn't invoke the server
program directly, so I'm not sure how to get the option to the vnc
server.
[...]>
On Tue, 20 Aug 2024 12:39:30 -0500
Richard Owlett wrote:
> I have 2 old-fashioned 32 bit i386 machines.
> What is/will be last release with installer?
The 32 bit installer is no longer part of the weekly build in
preparation for trixie.
--
Does anybody read signatures any more?
https://charle
i have a video capture card with 4 separate chips
when i start up i get bttv0 - bttv3
i'm getting a lot of errors in syslog on bttv2 and bttv3
like
bttv: 2: timeout: drop=3888442 irq=27910652/28054718, risc=338f048c, bits: HSYNC
bttv: 3: timeout: drop=3940265 irq=27929862/27929862, risc=33adc01c, b
I'm confused.
I have 2 old-fashioned 32 bit i386 machines.
What is/will be last release with installer?
TIA
On Tue, Aug 20, 2024 at 11:51 AM Nicolas George wrote:
>
> [...]
> > EFI files are signed
> > for Secure Boot, so vendor paths can not be easily adjusted.
>
> Secure boot is a joke when it comes to security, its only “merit” is to
> prevent l
And yes we just experienced a p0 accident which affected 100 millions
end users. (There is maybe already the news on internet.) So we are
taking serious consideration on hiring a consultant for our system
upgrading.
Thank you.
On 2024-08-20 23:49, Andy Smith wrote:
Hi Wesley,
On Tue, Aug 20
On Tue, Aug 20, 2024 at 03:17:02PM +, Andy Smith wrote:
>
> Then there is the fact that the LTS team can and does mark packages
> as unsupportable for the lifetime of LTS when they need to, so just
> because LTS team exists doesn't mean they can get around to
> supporting 32-bit x86 installer/
Max Nikulin (12024-08-20):
> Single EFI System Partition may contain loaders from different vendors, but
> not 2 Debian systems installed on different partitions.
This is not true. The only problem you will have with this setup is that
you will need to install and/or configure the bootloader manua
Hi Wesley,
On Tue, Aug 20, 2024 at 11:29:26PM +0800, Wesley wrote:
> We have 2000+ dedi servers planning to upgrade from debian 11 to Debian 12.
I should think that the typical debian-user subscriber manages only
a small number of systems with all of them for personal/hobby use,
with the rest of
Hello
We have 2000+ dedi servers planning to upgrade from debian 11 to Debian
12.
The main tech stacks on them are apache, mysql, redis, resin/tomcat,
ceph and some hdfs nodes.
We are looking for a consultancy for the implementation. If there is any
who have the interest, please contact me
Thank you for answering!
> Il 20/08/2024 04:53 CEST David Wright ha scritto:
>
> What's the output from:
>
> $ driverless
>
> (This is normally step one in configuring a printer.)
aldo@aldomaggi:~$ driverless
ipps://EPSON%20ET-2810%20Series._ipps._tcp.local/
>
> Cheers,
> David.
On Tue, Aug 20, 2024 at 05:17:43PM CEST, Max Nikulin said:
> On 20/08/2024 11:27, David Christensen wrote:
> > AIUI UEFI/GPT were designed to support multi-boot
>
> Single EFI System Partition may contain loaders from different vendors, but
> not 2 Debian systems installed on different partitions
On 20/08/2024 11:27, David Christensen wrote:
AIUI UEFI/GPT were designed to support multi-boot
Single EFI System Partition may contain loaders from different vendors,
but not 2 Debian systems installed on different partitions. EFI files
are signed for Secure Boot, so vendor paths can not be
Hello,
On Tue, Aug 20, 2024 at 03:44:03AM -0500, Richard Owlett wrote:
> On 08/19/2024 02:51 PM, Andy Smith wrote:
> > [32-bit x86] as previously mentioned has a single digit of years
> > of remaining lifetime in Debian.
>
> I don't see anything on https://wiki.debian.org/LTS that implies shorter
On Tue, Aug 20, 2024 at 07:34:33AM -0500, Richard Owlett wrote:
> On 08/20/2024 05:45 AM, Richard Owlett wrote:
> > On 08/20/2024 04:30 AM, Andrew M.A. Cater wrote:
> > > [snip]
> > > There will be non i386 installer medium for Trixie when released though
> > > i386 will be retained as a release ar
On Tue, 20 Aug 2024 07:34:33 -0500
Richard Owlett wrote:
> > 5.1.13. Baseline for 32-bit PC is now i686¶
> >
> > Debian's support for 32-bit PC (known as the Debian architecture
> > i386) now no longer covers any i586 processor. The new minimum
> > requirement is i686. This means that the i386 a
On Tue, Aug 20, 2024 at 12:26:39 +0100, Jonathan Dowland wrote:
> On Sun Aug 18, 2024 at 5:32 PM BST, Greg Wooledge wrote:
> > On Sun, Aug 18, 2024 at 17:08:00 +0100, Jonathan Dowland wrote:
> > > I've long felt that they were overcomplicated in themselves: the
> > > ideal UX should be not much mor
On 08/20/2024 05:45 AM, Richard Owlett wrote:
On 08/20/2024 04:30 AM, Andrew M.A. Cater wrote:
[snip]
There will be non i386 installer medium for Trixie when released though
i386 will be retained as a release architecture.
Can you point me to the details. I have two i386 I wish to use as long
On Sun Aug 18, 2024 at 5:32 PM BST, Greg Wooledge wrote:
> On Sun, Aug 18, 2024 at 17:08:00 +0100, Jonathan Dowland wrote:
> > I've long felt that they were overcomplicated in themselves: the
> > ideal UX should be not much more than "equivs package-name" =>
> > ./package-name.deb generated, IMHO.
David Christensen wrote:
...
> I understand that in-place upgrading a FOSS computer over many years is
> a source of pride for many people. I tried that, and it did not work
> out for me. Since then, I have invested myself in fresh installs,
> minimal sysadmin changes, thorough documentation,
On 08/20/2024 04:30 AM, Andrew M.A. Cater wrote:
On Tue, Aug 20, 2024 at 03:44:03AM -0500, Richard Owlett wrote:
On 08/19/2024 02:51 PM, Andy Smith wrote:
Hi,
I'm afraid I have not got the kind of answer you request for your
actual question but…
Hi Richard,
A first question: is this your m
On Tue, Aug 20, 2024 at 03:44:03AM -0500, Richard Owlett wrote:
> On 08/19/2024 02:51 PM, Andy Smith wrote:
> > Hi,
> >
> > I'm afraid I have not got the kind of answer you request for your
> > actual question but…
> >
Hi Richard,
A first question: is this your main computer?
The R61 is from 2
On 08/19/2024 02:51 PM, Andy Smith wrote:
Hi,
I'm afraid I have not got the kind of answer you request for your
actual question but…
On Mon, Aug 19, 2024 at 06:19:26AM -0500, Richard Owlett wrote:
I'm over 80 and doing first "from scratch" install since Squeeze ;}
Hardware is Lenovo R61 ThinkP
On 08/19/2024 11:27 PM, David Christensen wrote:
On 8/19/24 04:19, Richard Owlett wrote:
I'm over 80 and doing first "from scratch" install since Squeeze ;}
Hardware is Lenovo R61 ThinkPad (64 bit).
I multi boot [Grub will have at least three options]:
1. minimalist installation - primarily c
On 08/19/2024 10:17 PM, David Wright wrote:
On Mon 19 Aug 2024 at 16:23:31 (-0600), Tom Dial wrote:
On 8/19/24 05:19, Richard Owlett wrote:
I'm over 80 and doing first "from scratch" install since Squeeze ;}
Hardware is Lenovo R61 ThinkPad (64 bit).
I multi boot [Grub will have at least three o
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