On Mon, Jul 29, 2024 at 1:53 AM Brad Rogers wrote:
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> On Sun, 28 Jul 2024 21:04:30 -0500
> Nate Bargmann wrote:
>
> Hello Nate,
>
> >Discourse and Discord are two different technologies, AIUI
>
> Discourse also does this;
>
> Unfortunately, your browser is unsupported. Please switch to a support
On 2024-07-28, Michael Grant wrote:
+1 to all you say.
> Maybe one of you younger folks can teach me how one deals with keeping
> up with a forum like that.
Once upon a time there was usenet. After a while there was a mail-to-news
gateway. It ease a lot coping with this change of medium. If the
On 2024-07-28, Ian Molton wrote:
> Perhaps someone can help me with the bug tracker?
Install the package reportbug. It's as easy as writing a mail.
On Sun, 28 Jul 2024 21:04:30 -0500
Nate Bargmann wrote:
Hello Nate,
>Discourse and Discord are two different technologies, AIUI
Discourse also does this;
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browser to view rich content, log in and reply.
Whilst it's not i
On Sun, Jul 28, 2024 at 08:53:18PM +, Andy Smith wrote:
> Hi,
>
> On Sun, Jul 28, 2024 at 06:15:21PM +0100, Ian Molton wrote:
> > Which web forum has the commuity moved to then? I should like to join it...
>
> Sadly, the Debian project is not willing to move with the times and
> bless a moder
Hi Everyone,
I have KVM/QEMU/libvirt installed to manage my VMs. I have a Debian 12
guest, x86_64, fully patched. The Debian guest has qemu-guest-agent
installed. The qemu-guest-agent service is running on the Debian
guest.
The problem is, the Debian guest does not automatically release the
mouse
On Sun 28 Jul 2024 at 09:45:44 (-0500), allan wrote:
> I've run Sid exclusively for years; the last time I broke it badly
> enough to justify a reinstall was in 2013 and that was for not paying
> attention during an upgrade :)
>
> My heartburn is I would have expected to see this change in a
> ch
On Sun 28 Jul 2024 at 16:23:48 (+0200), Vincent Lefevre wrote:
> On 2024-07-28 00:08:51 -0500, David Wright wrote:
> > On Sun 28 Jul 2024 at 02:06:38 (+0200), Vincent Lefevre wrote:
> > > On 2024-07-23 11:13:47 -0500, Nate Bargmann wrote:
> > > > The GNU info documentation is really intended to be
On Mon 29 Jul 2024 at 09:23:16 (+0700), Max Nikulin wrote:
> On 28/07/2024 20:08, Erwan David wrote:
> > I also have a 99-systcl.conf which is a copy of the former /etc/sysctl.conf
>
> When you are going to replace a file provided by a package, check if
> it is a configuration file at first (e.g.
On Sun 28 Jul 2024 at 16:43:01 (+0200), Vincent Lefevre wrote:
> On 2024-07-28 00:07:56 -0500, David Wright wrote:
> > On Sun 28 Jul 2024 at 04:25:32 (+0200), Vincent Lefevre wrote:
> > > On 2024-07-27 20:25:54 -0400, Greg Wooledge wrote:
> >
> > > > On Sun, Jul 28, 2024 at 01:17:19 +0200, Vincent
On 7/28/24 22:02, Andy Smith wrote:
Hi,
On Sun, Jul 28, 2024 at 09:09:39PM -0400, Patrick Wiseman wrote:
I like this forum/format
Not wanting to try to convince people on a mailing list to not be on
a mailing list, so keeping this brief, but…
IMO Discord pretty much sucks.
Discourse is no
On 28/07/2024 20:08, Erwan David wrote:
I also have a 99-systcl.conf which is a copy of the former /etc/sysctl.conf
When you are going to replace a file provided by a package, check if it
is a configuration file at first (e.g. dpkg -s). Despite most of files
in /etc/ are marked as configurati
On 29/07/2024 02:57, 타토카 wrote:
Is it enough to have usb Debian live (for example XFCE) and use Debian
Sid? I mean I don't have another one computer, if the main computer will
be "broken".
Since you are asking this question, likely it is not enough.
If your hardware allows it then consider in
July 29, 2024 at 9:09 AM, "Patrick Wiseman" wrote:
> >
>
> I mostly lurk here but I like this forum/format and hope Debian sticks with
>
> it. IMO Discord pretty much sucks. There's a r/debian subreddit which looks
>
> quite active and I've found other subreddits helpful.
>
> Patrick
>
In s
* On 2024 28 Jul 20:11 -0500, Patrick Wiseman wrote:
> I mostly lurk here but I like this forum/format and hope Debian sticks with
> it. IMO Discord pretty much sucks. There's a r/debian subreddit which looks
> quite active and I've found other subreddits helpful.
Discourse and Discord are two dif
Hi,
On Sun, Jul 28, 2024 at 09:09:39PM -0400, Patrick Wiseman wrote:
> I like this forum/format
Not wanting to try to convince people on a mailing list to not be on
a mailing list, so keeping this brief, but…
> IMO Discord pretty much sucks.
Discourse is not Discord. They are completely differe
On 2024-07-28 20:01:35 -0400, Greg Wooledge wrote:
> In the interests of posting something *useful*, here's a timeline.
> As I understand it, here's what's happened so far:
>
> 2024-06-23: bug #1074156 filed against package procps
> procps: Depend or Recommend linux-sysctl-defaults
> Bug f
On Mon, Jul 29, 2024 at 01:13:10 +0200, Vincent Lefevre wrote:
> On 2024-07-28 14:13:09 +, Michael Kjörling wrote:
> > And posting on debian-user with a bombastic Subject line which implies
> > that this is a widespread issue when it really only seems to exist in
> > Unstable is, quite frankly,
On 2024-07-28 11:21:01 -0400, Greg Wooledge wrote:
> On Sun, Jul 28, 2024 at 16:43:01 +0200, Vincent Lefevre wrote:
> > More or less. In the systemd case, for each file, either one chooses
> > it, i.e. one has all the current defaults, or one chooses to provide
> > a replacement under /etc, i.e. on
On 2024-07-28 14:13:09 +, Michael Kjörling wrote:
> And posting on debian-user with a bombastic Subject line which implies
> that this is a widespread issue when it really only seems to exist in
> Unstable is, quite frankly, in my opinion at best dishonest.
No, the breakage was done *on purpos
Hi,
On Sun, Jul 28, 2024 at 06:32:58PM -0400, Michael Grant wrote:
> I never read web forums, I only really search for things in a
> search engine and then end up on a forum with possible answers.
The fact is that millions of tech questions are asked and answered
on Stack-like sites, probably mor
On Sun, Jul 28, 2024 at 08:53:18PM +, Andy Smith wrote:
> Hi,
>
> On Sun, Jul 28, 2024 at 06:15:21PM +0100, Ian Molton wrote:
> > Which web forum has the commuity moved to then? I should like to join it...
>
> Sadly, the Debian project is not willing to move with the times and
> bless a moder
I have had some luck with problem WiFi on laptops by setting the acpi_osi
type to one of various windows types on the kernel command line.
You can add it in /etc/default/grub
Remember to run update-grub after editing it.
On Sun, 28 Jul 2024 22:39:47 +0200
john doe wrote:
> I guess, this would be more for the debian-boot mailing list, as
> apparently this is a regression.
Thank you. I have re-sent. (rather than resented :-)
>
> In my case, I use the Qemu's built-in tftp server.
Thanks for the suggestion. I hav
Hi,
On Sun, Jul 28, 2024 at 06:15:21PM +0100, Ian Molton wrote:
> Which web forum has the commuity moved to then? I should like to join it...
Sadly, the Debian project is not willing to move with the times and
bless a modern web support community such as Discourse (a Stack
Overflow or AskUbuntu-l
On 7/28/24 21:55, Charles Curley wrote:
I have the latest testing netinst (20240722-03:17), and would like to
install it on a virtual machine. I have a preseed file on a USB stick.
As this is a virtual machine, the virtual hard drive is at vda, and the
USB stick shows up at sda.
When I go to loa
Hi,
On Sun, Jul 28, 2024 at 01:23:28PM +, Walt E wrote:
> However, some servers, such as by Azure's default security policy, prohibit
> icmp ping.
> So, in this situation, how do I know the local latency to those servers?
I pick a port that I know is open and use a traceroute that uses
those
Hello, I have a HP Compaq Presario CQ 60 notebook from 2009, I have this
WiFi problem with any GNU/Linux distro: I have to leave the WiFi always
active, if I turn it off it doesn't turn on anymore, to restart it I have
to restart the notebook.
I currently use Debian Bookworm 12 but in my opinion t
Is it enough to have usb Debian live (for example XFCE) and use Debian Sid?
I mean I don't have another one computer, if the main computer will be
"broken".
On Tue, Jul 23, 2024 at 11:44 PM David Wright
wrote:
> On Tue 23 Jul 2024 at 09:44:02 (+), Michael Kjörling wrote:
> > On 22 Jul 2024 2
I have the latest testing netinst (20240722-03:17), and would like to
install it on a virtual machine. I have a preseed file on a USB stick.
As this is a virtual machine, the virtual hard drive is at vda, and the
USB stick shows up at sda.
When I go to load the debconf file, the installer doesn't
On Sun, Jul 28, 2024 at 19:08:58 +, MailGuard01 wrote:
> Is it still reasonable to add my experience to existing bug report,
> or should I submit a new one instead?
Adding to an existing bug report is a good thing, especially if you can
bring new insights, new examples, etc.
On Sun, 28 Jul 2024 18:15:21 +0100 (GMT+01:00)
Ian Molton wrote:
Hello Ian,
>Which web forum has the commuity moved to then? I should like to join
Don't know. Never considered switching.
From the web forums I have used, I've ascertained that they offer
nothing that can't be done on a mailing
On Friday, July 26th, 2024 at PM 10:42, David Wright
wrote:
> There is a bug report #960809, which seems related, and
> might be worth adding your experience to, if you think so.
>
> https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=960809
>
Thank you for letting me know about this. I also n
Hi,
Thanks for your reply,
I'm afraid I've always found the bug tracker a very inaccessible thing.
Despite having a decent amount of technical knowledge, I find it
daunting, and a jarring thing to cope with mentally.
This is why i come to the mailing lists to seek help, but as you note,
de
Which web forum has the commuity moved to then? I should like to join
it...
On Sun, Jul 28, 2024 at 16:43:01 +0200, Vincent Lefevre wrote:
> More or less. In the systemd case, for each file, either one chooses
> it, i.e. one has all the current defaults, or one chooses to provide
> a replacement under /etc, i.e. one entirely replaces the defaults by
> one's own settings. A
I've run Sid exclusively for years; the last time I broke it badly
enough to justify a reinstall was in 2013 and that was for not paying
attention during an upgrade :)
My heartburn is I would have expected to see this change in a
changelog and apt-listchanges didn't say a word about this.
As far
On 2024-07-28 00:07:56 -0500, David Wright wrote:
> On Sun 28 Jul 2024 at 04:25:32 (+0200), Vincent Lefevre wrote:
> > On 2024-07-27 20:25:54 -0400, Greg Wooledge wrote:
>
> > > On Sun, Jul 28, 2024 at 01:17:19 +0200, Vincent Lefevre wrote:
> > > > The configuration got broken by a *systemd* upgra
On 2024-07-28 at 10:13, Michael Kjörling wrote:
> On 28 Jul 2024 15:08 +0200, from er...@rail.eu.org (Erwan David):
>> Le 28/07/2024 à 14:28, allan a écrit :
>>> I would agree with you *if* the change had been publicized.
>>
>> [...] But in my view it is a bug to remove something else than the
>>
On Sun, Jul 28, 2024 at 5:16 AM songbird wrote:
> not that i would want that,
>
> but it would be possible for various terminals to save to
> their own unique history files based upon terminal pty or
> tty or anything else you'd like and to reload those upon
> starting up again.
Yes.
Setting
On Sat, Jul 27, 2024 at 11:23 PM Jeffrey Walton wrote:
> On Sun, Jul 28, 2024 at 12:25 AM Mike Castle wrote:
> > * I keep history under source control (currently git) and regularly
> > (well, for some definition of "regularly"), merge them across machines
>
> This is an unusual use case (to me).
On 28 Jul 2024 15:08 +0200, from er...@rail.eu.org (Erwan David):
> Le 28/07/2024 à 14:28, allan a écrit :
>> I would agree with you *if* the change had been publicized.
>
> [...] But in my view it is a bug to remove something else than
> the symlink even with the same name
At the risk of repeati
On 2024-07-28 00:08:51 -0500, David Wright wrote:
> On Sun 28 Jul 2024 at 02:06:38 (+0200), Vincent Lefevre wrote:
> > On 2024-07-23 11:13:47 -0500, Nate Bargmann wrote:
> > > The GNU info documentation is really intended to be read in Emacs where
> > > some nice formatting is done in the GUI Emacs
On Sat, Jul 27, 2024 at 11:04 PM mick.crane wrote:
> If I've "su'd" I type "exit".
> To close the terminal I click that X in the virtual terminal's top right
> hand corner.
Depending on settings, that may or may not save that invocation's
history. You'll likely want to test to verify that it doe
On 28 Jul 2024 13:23 +, from linux...@daum.net (Walt E):
> When I want to know the approximate latency from local to remote servers, I
> know I can use icmp ping.
> However, some servers, such as by Azure's default security policy, prohibit
> icmp ping.
> So, in this situation, how do I know
On 2024-07-28 at 09:29, Yassine Chaouche wrote:
> Le 7/28/24 à 12:19, songbird a écrit :
>
>> to keep my own setup consistent and to not keep certain things in
>> history i actually do the opposite of what you want because i want
>> certain commands already preloaded in my history for all windows
Le 7/28/24 à 12:19, songbird a écrit :
[...]
to keep my own setup consistent and to not keep certain
things in history i actually do the opposite of what you
want because i want certain commands already preloaded in
my history for all windows when i start up and then i adjust
my environment b
Le 28/07/2024 à 14:28, allan a écrit :
I would agree with you *if* the change had been publicized.
I found the 99-sysctl.conf symlink accidentally. I removed the
symlink and moved sysctl.conf to 99-sysctl.conf since the original
config was not being read. This turned out to be a lousy idea sin
Hello,
When I want to know the approximate latency from local to remote servers, I
know I can use icmp ping.
However, some servers, such as by Azure's default security policy, prohibit
icmp ping.
So, in this situation, how do I know the local latency to those servers?
Thanks.
I would agree with you *if* the change had been publicized.
I found the 99-sysctl.conf symlink accidentally. I removed the
symlink and moved sysctl.conf to 99-sysctl.conf since the original
config was not being read. This turned out to be a lousy idea since
the symlink was removed with the next
mick.crane wrote:
> In debian bookworm, xfce desktop, different virtual terminals have a
> different history if same user presses "up key" in different virtual
> terminals ?
> Is this something that can be changed so history is shared between
> virtual terminals?
> mick
not that i would want
On 28 Jul 2024 04:25 +0200, from vinc...@vinc17.net (Vincent Lefevre):
>> A conffile is user-managed, so any changes you make to a conffile must
>> be respected by the package. It can't just overwrite your changes, or
>> restore a conffile if you've deleted it.
>
> This is rather poor design, bec
On 2024-07-28, Ian Molton wrote:
> https://lists.debian.org/stats/debian-user.png
>
> An alarming decline, with a multitude of reasons.
>
> But lack of community will be the one that ends that graph. Be in no doubt.
Members remains around 3000 so I don't see a decline for this.
Messages decline b
Le 7/28/24 à 05:24, Mike Castle a écrit :
On Sat, Jul 27, 2024 at 2:50 PM mick.crane wrote:
Is this something that can be changed so history is shared between
virtual terminals?
Yes.
[...]
From my .bashrc file, I have the following history related settings:
# No limit on running shell
On Sun, 28 Jul 2024 09:35:22 +0100 (GMT+01:00)
Ian Molton wrote:
Hello Ian,
>An alarming decline, with a multitude of reasons.
Same for most MLs; People think web forums are better.
Passive/aggressive messages don't help, either.
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Hi,
As I said - the mailing list stats. Public record.
Heres a picture.
https://lists.debian.org/stats/debian-user.png
An alarming decline, with a multitude of reasons.
But lack of community will be the one that ends that graph. Be in no
doubt.
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