On Sat, 2024-07-20 at 05:54 +, David wrote:
> On Sat, 20 Jul 2024 at 04:56, Van Snyder
> wrote:
>
> > I'm trying to run a 32-bit static executable on 64-bit Debian 12.5
> > "bookworm."
> >
> > When I launch it, I get
> >
> > ./LinuxSusser: error while loading shared libraries: libgtk-x11-
>
On Sat, 20 Jul 2024 at 04:56, Van Snyder wrote:
> I'm trying to run a 32-bit static executable on 64-bit Debian 12.5 "bookworm."
>
> When I launch it, I get
>
> ./LinuxSusser: error while loading shared libraries: libgtk-x11-2.0.so.0:
> cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory
On Sat, Jul 20, 2024 at 02:45:37PM +1000, David wrote:
> On Sat, 2024-07-20 at 11:54 +0800, hlyg wrote:
[...]
> > why free OS hasn't gained more share even after 30 years of
> > development?
>
> Because people don't have it hammered into them via the educational
> formats, it doesn't come preins
I'm trying to run a 32-bit static executable on 64-bit Debian 12.5
"bookworm."
When I launch it, I get
./LinuxSusser: error while loading shared libraries: libgtk-x11-
2.0.so.0: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory
Why is a static executable wanting to load a .so file?
i386
On Sat, 2024-07-20 at 11:54 +0800, hlyg wrote:
> crowdstrike makes news headlines, many Windows become blue screens
>
> it is evident that many people around still use Windows
>
> i wonder if linux is more reliable than Windows
>
> according to some statistics linux has only 4% desktop market, 7
crowdstrike makes news headlines, many Windows become blue screens
it is evident that many people around still use Windows
i wonder if linux is more reliable than Windows
according to some statistics linux has only 4% desktop market, 73% for
MS, 15% for MacOS
why free OS hasn't gained more s
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On Sat 20 Jul 2024 at 12:13:28 (+1200), Ash Joubert wrote:
> On 2024-07-20 03:39, Celejar wrote:
> > Thanks much!
> [...]
> > As per another message in this thread, I've already filed a bug against
> > linux-image-6.9.9-amd64, but I suppose I should update the report with
> > this information, indi
On 19/07/2024 10:45, songbird wrote:
- Does MATE use scopes and services to run applications an components?
"ps xwf" and "systemd-cgls" trees may clarify where started applications
appear.
neither of those show all the programs that i have
included on the panels, but there are cgroups and so
On 20/07/2024 05:25, Greg Wooledge wrote:
#!/bin/sh
echo "I am a.sh, and inside me, VAR=<$VAR>."
A way to report a bit more information:
cat /tmp/test.sh
#!/bin/sh
printf "%s: VAR %5s %10s value=<%s>\n" \
"$0" "${VAR+set}" "${VAR:+not empty}" "$VAR"
/tmp/test.sh
/tmp/test.sh: VAR
installing w4sp-lab and wireshark there are many errors and I can't install
it..
On 2024-07-20 03:39, Celejar wrote:
Thanks much!
[...]
As per another message in this thread, I've already filed a bug against
linux-image-6.9.9-amd64, but I suppose I should update the report with
this information, indicating that it's not really a problem with that
package.
You are welcome!
On 2024-07-20 06:35, Greg Wooledge wrote:
On Sat, Jul 20, 2024 at 06:30:42 +0800, p...@gmx.it wrote:
On 2024-07-20 06:25, Greg Wooledge wrote:
> >
> > I can not clearly understand for this statement. what's "future shell
> > commands"? can you show an example?
>
> hobbit:~$ unset -v VAR
> hobbit
On Sat, Jul 20, 2024 at 06:30:42 +0800, p...@gmx.it wrote:
> On 2024-07-20 06:25, Greg Wooledge wrote:
> > >
> > > I can not clearly understand for this statement. what's "future shell
> > > commands"? can you show an example?
> >
> > hobbit:~$ unset -v VAR
> > hobbit:~$ VAR=bar; ./a.sh
> > I am
On 2024-07-20 06:25, Greg Wooledge wrote:
I can not clearly understand for this statement. what's "future shell
commands"? can you show an example?
hobbit:~$ unset -v VAR
hobbit:~$ VAR=bar; ./a.sh
I am a.sh, and inside me, VAR=<>.
hobbit:~$ echo "VAR=<$VAR>"
VAR=
OK I know that. $VAR can be
On Sat, Jul 20, 2024 at 06:17:46 +0800, p...@gmx.it wrote:
> $ VAR=foo ./a.sh
> i can see VAR=foo
I don't know what "see" means here.
hobbit:~$ cat a.sh
#!/bin/sh
echo "I am a.sh, and inside me, VAR=<$VAR>."
hobbit:~$ unset -v VAR
hobbit:~$ VAR=foo ./a.sh
I am a.sh, and inside me, VAR=.
hobbit:~$
On 2024-07-20 05:56, Greg Wooledge wrote:
On Sat, Jul 20, 2024 at 05:46:23 +0800, p...@gmx.it wrote:
$ VAR1=foo && ./a.sh
$ export VAR2=foo; ./a.sh
$ ./b.sh
$VAR1 will be seen by a.sh only, but $VAR2 can be seen my current
login
session (such as b.sh). Am I right? I am a bit confused about env
On Sat, Jul 20, 2024 at 05:46:23 +0800, p...@gmx.it wrote:
> $ VAR1=foo && ./a.sh
> $ export VAR2=foo; ./a.sh
> $ ./b.sh
>
>
> $VAR1 will be seen by a.sh only, but $VAR2 can be seen my current login
> session (such as b.sh). Am I right? I am a bit confused about env scope.
If we assume NO other
On 2024-07-20 00:07, Mike Castle wrote:
In addition to what everyone else has said about env(1), there is the
fact that Korn derived shells also supports some of the same features.
env VAR1=foo VAR2=bar random-command
VAR1=foo VAR2=bar random-command
$ VAR1=foo && ./a.sh
$ export VAR2=foo; ./
On Fri, Jul 19, 2024 at 23:04:25 +0700, Max Nikulin wrote:
> On 16/07/2024 20:46, Greg Wooledge wrote:
> > On Mon, Jul 15, 2024 at 23:39:54 -0400, Greg Wooledge wrote:
> > > Now we just need for GNOME users to discover a way to configure the
> > > programs that are started as children of dbus, and
Hi,
Vijay Kirpalani wrote:
> I am using xorriso to create a bootable Linux ISO and facing some issues.
> Please suggest what i might be doing wrong or missing.
I answered to your identical mail on bug-xorr...@gnu.org . See:
https://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/bug-xorriso/2024-07/msg3.html
T
In addition to what everyone else has said about env(1), there is the
fact that Korn derived shells also supports some of the same features.
env VAR1=foo VAR2=bar random-command
VAR1=foo VAR2=bar random-command
If running a Korn-like shell (ksh, bash, zsh), both would set the
envvars VAR1 and VAR
On 16/07/2024 20:46, Greg Wooledge wrote:
On Mon, Jul 15, 2024 at 23:39:54 -0400, Greg Wooledge wrote:
Now we just need for GNOME users to discover a way to configure the
programs that are started as children of dbus, and then we can move
forward. Documentation would be my top priority. If oth
Ash Joubert wrote:
> On 2024-07-19 02:32, Celejar wrote:
>
> I'm currently on kernel 6.9.8 (amd64 / Sid). Installing 6.9.9 fails due to
> running out of space on /boot:
> update-initramfs: Generating /boot/initrd.img-6.9.9-amd64
> zstd: error 70 : Write error : cannot write block
Johan Sjölin wrote:
> On 7/17/24 23:30, Kent West wrote:
>
> > Try pressing a shift key a couple of times, and then blindly typing
> > your user password. > My guess is that the screensaver/lock is
> > wonky.
>
> Doesn't work. I don't use any screensaver or automatic screen lock.
>
> Whenever
On 2024-07-19 11:09, Gary Dale wrote:
On 2024-07-19 10:42, The Wanderer wrote:
On 2024-07-19 at 10:34, Gary Dale wrote:
On 2024-07-18 09:52, Gary Dale wrote:
Thanks for the tips guys, but I'm not going to switch to XFCE, I'm
using an old AMD graphics card, it's a desktop machine, and the
prob
On 2024-07-19 10:42, The Wanderer wrote:
On 2024-07-19 at 10:34, Gary Dale wrote:
On 2024-07-18 09:52, Gary Dale wrote:
Thanks for the tips guys, but I'm not going to switch to XFCE, I'm
using an old AMD graphics card, it's a desktop machine, and the
problem isn't specific to PDFs - although t
On 2024-07-19 at 10:34, Gary Dale wrote:
> On 2024-07-18 09:52, Gary Dale wrote:
>> Thanks for the tips guys, but I'm not going to switch to XFCE, I'm
>> using an old AMD graphics card, it's a desktop machine, and the
>> problem isn't specific to PDFs - although that seems to be one of
>> the ma
On 2024-07-18 09:52, Gary Dale wrote:
On 2024-07-17 21:25, Gary Dale wrote:
I'm running Debian/Trixie on an AMD64 system, using the Plasma 5 over
X desktop. Firefox 115.12.0esr is crashing multiple times per day. It
frequently happens when page I'm transfers to another page that
creates a PDF
On 7/17/24 23:30, Kent West wrote:
Try pressing a shift key a couple of times, and then blindly typing your user
password. > My guess is that the screensaver/lock is wonky.
Doesn't work. I don't use any screensaver or automatic screen lock.
Whenever I power cycle the monitor, I get the error
On 2024-07-19 at 09:02, Michel Verdier wrote:
> On 2024-07-19, p...@gmx.it wrote:
>
>> $ perl -le 'for( keys %ENV ){print "$_ --> $ENV{$_}"}' |grep perl
>> _ --> /usr/bin/perl
>>
>> the key for perl is "_" in environment variable? under this key, why
>> 'env perl' just works?
>
> Perl $_ is the
On Fri, Jul 19, 2024 at 15:33:40 +0300, Anssi Saari wrote:
> I've mostly used VNC and x2go for Windows-to-Linux and Linux-to-Linux.
>
> VNC was and is:
> - Solid and we actually use it at work too.
> - Limited in the number of mouse buttons at some point to five, minor
> but annoying. At the tim
On 2024-07-19, p...@gmx.it wrote:
> $ perl -le 'for( keys %ENV ){print "$_ --> $ENV{$_}"}' |grep perl
> _ --> /usr/bin/perl
>
> the key for perl is "_" in environment variable? under this key, why
> 'env perl' just works?
Perl $_ is the current (unnamed) value of your loop "for". You could
write
Hi,
p...@gmx.it wrote:
> I am not sure how 'env' command works.
Read the output of
man env
> for example, what's the difference between '/usr/bin/perl' and 'env perl' ?
Reading the man page i'd say it's the same difference as between
"/usr/bin/perl" and "perl". I.e. the former runs explicit
Nicolas George writes:
> Would perchance somebody here have already investigated a similar need
> and be able to tell which solutions are the most promising in terms of
> reliability and user experience.
I've mostly used VNC and x2go for Windows-to-Linux and Linux-to-Linux.
VNC was and is:
- So
On Fri, Jul 19, 2024 at 20:12:14 +0800, p...@gmx.it wrote:
> for example, what's the difference between '/usr/bin/perl' and 'env
> perl' ?
"env perl" searches your $PATH.
> I know env may set a environment variable in system, so my question also
> includes:
env is used to *display* the current s
Hello list,
I am not sure how 'env' command works.
for example, what's the difference between '/usr/bin/perl' and 'env
perl' ?
I know env may set a environment variable in system, so my question also
includes:
1. where to see a shell environment variable? I tried 'echo $ENV'
showing nothing.
On 12/07/2024 10:56, Max Nikulin wrote:
I have a question opposite to the original one. Is it possible to
disable xon&xoff for bash prompt, but enable it while foreground
commands are running?
I do not mind to use forward search in readline history.
As to the original question, Emacs and Vim
Le 19/07/2024 à 05:12, songbird a écrit :
The Wanderer wrote:
...
By taking on yourself the risk and burden of running sid, you are
volunteering to be one of those who helps notice issues before they
reach testing, and report those issues so that the machinery of the
archive can stop the package
Le 19/07/2024 à 09:25, didier gaumet a écrit :
[...]
You are perfectly right: there is no contract and one i free to use
which Debian distro one wants to...
[...]
typo error, sorry:
You are perfectly right: there is no contract and one is free to use
which Debian distro one wants to...
On Thu, Jul 18, 2024 at 8:33 PM wrote:
>
> On Wednesday, 17 July 2024 21:31:00 BST Jeffrey Walton wrote:
> > On Tue, Jul 16, 2024 at 1:35 PM jeremy ardley
> wrote:
> > > On 16/7/24 19:31, Tom Browder wrote:
> > > > [...]
> > > There are alternatives that include:
> > >
> > > - KVM/QEMU
> > >
> >
On Fri, Jul 19, 2024 at 10:07:14AM +0200, didier gaumet wrote:
[...]
> > One of the things I love Debian for.
> >
> > Cheers
>
> My bad, I do know the existence of the Debian social contract but have not
> worded accurately enough what I wanted to say. I should have written
> something like:
N
Le 19/07/2024 à 09:43, to...@tuxteam.de a écrit :
On Fri, Jul 19, 2024 at 09:25:22AM +0200, didier gaumet wrote:
Le 19/07/2024 à 05:12, songbird a écrit :
[...]
You are perfectly right: there is no contract and one i free to use which
Debian distro one wants to...
Actually, there /is/ a co
On Fri, Jul 19, 2024 at 09:25:22AM +0200, didier gaumet wrote:
> Le 19/07/2024 à 05:12, songbird a écrit :
[...]
> You are perfectly right: there is no contract and one i free to use which
> Debian distro one wants to...
Actually, there /is/ a contract:
https://www.debian.org/social_contract
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