Re: Results of Testmail_1-3

On 5/7/24 13:13, Max Nikulin wrote: On 05/07/2024 04:27, Michael Kjörling wrote: On 4 Jul 2024 22:12 +0200, from Hans: Weired thing at all. This "testing" of yours, so far, involves about two dozen emails, each of which sent to about 3000 people. 1.

Re: Debian 11 and IPv4 static IP address

On 5/7/24 13:13, jeremy ardley wrote: On 5/7/24 10:30, Felix Miata wrote: I think there are more than one. One thing is to check what is enabled, then disable or uninstall whatever owns the unit(s): systemctl list-unit-files | egrep 'net|dhcp' Do the same with whatever "manages" /etc

Re: Debian 11 and IPv4 static IP address

On 5/7/24 10:30, Felix Miata wrote: I think there are more than one. One thing is to check what is enabled, then disable or uninstall whatever owns the unit(s): systemctl list-unit-files | egrep 'net|dhcp' Do the same with whatever "manages" /etc/resolv.conf, and create a regular fil

Re: small font

> Compression reduces the size but it's proportionnal so don't negate the > extra html size. The global size will always be 4-10x. No, the compression is not proportional. HTML is naturally very redundant, and machine-generated HTML like the one seen in Richard's email tends to be excruciatingly

Re: Debian 11 and IPv4 static IP address

On 5/7/24 10:06, David Christensen wrote: The Debian wiki also says: "Make sure to disable all DHCP services, e.g. dhcpcd." What is the correct method to "disable all DHCP services"? The instruction is not necessary. It doesn't matter if there is a dhcp server anywhere if the client -

Re: Debian 11 and IPv4 static IP address

David Christensen composed on 2024-07-04 20:29 (UTC-0700): > Felix Miata wrote: >> David Christensen composed on 2024-07-04 19:06 (UTC-0700): >>> I have built a VirtualBox virtual machine and installed Debian 11 with >>> SSH server and standard system utilities only. I plan to use the VM to >>>

Re: Debian 11 and IPv4 static IP address

On 7/4/24 19:30, Felix Miata wrote: David Christensen composed on 2024-07-04 19:06 (UTC-0700): I have built a VirtualBox virtual machine and installed Debian 11 with SSH server and standard system utilities only. I plan to use the VM to run the UniFi Network Controller to manage the UniFi equip

Re: Results of Testmail_1-3

On 05/07/2024 04:27, Michael Kjörling wrote: On 4 Jul 2024 22:12 +0200, from Hans: Weired thing at all. This "testing" of yours, so far, involves about two dozen emails, each of which sent to about 3000 people. 1. Do not send "test" m

Re: small font

On Thu, Jul 4, 2024 at 2:58 PM Richard wrote: > > Right, because 4x = 10x. Jesus, stop being so ridiculous. Also, there's some > magic trick called compression. Compression is a security hole. It leaks information. It should be disabled. Infact, TLS v1.3 removed it from the protocol. Also see

Re: small font

On Thu, Jul 4, 2024 at 9:58 AM jeremy ardley wrote: > > On 4/7/24 17:13, Roger Price wrote: > > > > The Debian mailing list Code of Conduct at > > https://www.debian.org/MailingLists/ > > is clear: > > > > « Please don't send your messages in HTML; use plain text instead » > > I presume there is s

Re: Debian 11 and IPv4 static IP address

David Christensen composed on 2024-07-04 19:06 (UTC-0700): > debian-user: > I have built a VirtualBox virtual machine and installed Debian 11 with > SSH server and standard system utilities only. I plan to use the VM to > run the UniFi Network Controller to manage the UniFi equipment on my >

Debian 11 and IPv4 static IP address

debian-user: I have built a VirtualBox virtual machine and installed Debian 11 with SSH server and standard system utilities only. I plan to use the VM to run the UniFi Network Controller to manage the UniFi equipment on my SOHO LAN: root@unifi:~# cat /etc/debian_version ; uname -a 11.10 Li

Re: nouveau on old NV GPUs

Van Snyder composed on 2024-07-04 13:24 (UTC-0700): > The solution did indeed allow to install the driver. But it removed > at least KDE, and now it won't enter run level 5. I added > nouveau.modeset=0 to the "linux" line in grub.cfg, but it's still > running the nouveau driver, or at least th

Re: This is a testmail!

I didn’t chech the header. But loop.de should have its own signature. Debian list server rewrite envelope address to list adress due to SRS requirements. But message header address is not changed as well as message body (debian list seems not modifying message body), so DKIM for loop.de will be

Re: Results of Testmail_1-3

On 4 Jul 2024 22:12 +0200, from hans.ullr...@loop.de (Hans): > Weired thing at all. This "testing" of yours, so far, involves about two dozen emails, each of which sent to about 3000 people. (Yes, I realize that I'm adding to the deluge; I do apologize. This will be my _only_ one in this threa

Re: Results of Testmail_1-3

On Jul 04, 2024, Hans wrote: > So, these are th eresults: > > 1. A new created maiil does not have a spam tag. > > 2. Reply to my own mail does also not have a spam tag. > > 3. Reply to any user mail DOES have a spam tag. > > So it looks like there is something , which some mailservers do not l

Re: This is a testmail!

On Thu, Jul 4, 2024 at 4:55 PM Detlef Vollmann wrote: > > Isn't this the usual DKIM problem with lists? > The From: has @loop.de, but the sender and DKIM signature > is from lists.debian.org. > > That's why most lists these days rewrite the From: header. One small nit: rewriting headers is not ap

Re: This is a testmail!

Isn't this the usual DKIM problem with lists? The From: has @loop.de, but the sender and DKIM signature is from lists.debian.org. That's why most lists these days rewrite the From: header. Detlef On 7/4/24 14:24, Hans wrote: Me again, sorry. Now I got my last mail back with the spam tag!

Re: nouveau on old NV GPUs (was: NVidia 340 video driver in Bookworm?)

This should not have been happened. Maybe you dis something in a wrong way? I treid myself and it did not deinstall kde. It is important, not to do any upgrade while the entry for sid is in sources.list. Just install both packages (as told in the wiki), then after this install remove the si

Re: Re: nouveau on old NV GPUs (was: NVidia 340 video driver in Bookworm?)

On Thu, Jul 04, 2024 at 01:24:21PM -0700, Van Snyder wrote: > On Wed, 2024-07-03 at 23:24 +0200, Hans wrote: > > Hi van Snyder, > > > > I believe I got a solution. However, you may not be happy with it, > > but maybe it will work. > > The solution did indeed allow to install the driver. But i

Re: Re: nouveau on old NV GPUs (was: NVidia 340 video driver in Bookworm?)

On Wed, 2024-07-03 at 23:24 +0200, Hans wrote: > Hi van Snyder, > > I believe I got a solution. However, you may not be happy with it, > but maybe it will work. The solution did indeed allow to install the driver. But it removed at least KDE, and now it won't enter run level 5. I added nouvea

Re: Testmail_3: Reply to one of the mails from The Wanderer

Yes, I saw the DKIM=fail at the first time, but debian said, it is the fault of megamailservers.eu and theire servers are ok. So I contacted megamailservers.eu today, but generally I can do nothing else myself, as I am no admin of any involved mailservers. So, hopefully they will answer. IMO

Re: Results of Testmail_1-3

On 2024-07-04 at 16:12, Hans wrote: > So, these are th eresults: > > 1. A new created maiil does not have a spam tag. > > 2. Reply to my own mail does also not have a spam tag. > > 3. Reply to any user mail DOES have a spam tag. > > So it looks like there is something , which some mailservers

Re: Testmail_3: Reply to one of the mails from The Wanderer

This ypou received NOT from the list was my fault - forgot to add the address in the To: field. Sorry Hans > ...and the second copy which I received *not* via the list (which I'm > assuming, but haven't verified, was sent by BCC or similar rather than > being a separate unique mail), which I did

Re: Testmail_3: Reply to one of the mails from The Wanderer

On 2024-07-04 at 16:10, The Wanderer wrote: > On 2024-07-04 at 16:07, Hans wrote: > >> Surprisingly Testmail_2 appeared WITHOUT the SPAM tag. >> >> This one is a reply of a mail from The Wanderer. >> >> I expect it WITH the SPAM tag from the debian list. > > This one showed up on my end with

Results of Testmail_1-3

So, these are th eresults: 1. A new created maiil does not have a spam tag. 2. Reply to my own mail does also not have a spam tag. 3. Reply to any user mail DOES have a spam tag. So it looks like there is something , which some mailservers do not like. As I am sending only text from me, seldo

Re: Testmail_3: Reply to one of the mails from The Wanderer

On 2024-07-04 at 16:07, Hans wrote: > Surprisingly Testmail_2 appeared WITHOUT the SPAM tag. > > This one is a reply of a mail from The Wanderer. > > I expect it WITH the SPAM tag from the debian list. This one showed up on my end with dkim=fail in the usual header. -- The Wanderer The

Re: Testmail_2: Re: Testmail_1: This is a new created mail!

On 2024-07-04 at 16:01, Hans wrote: > Am Donnerstag, 4. Juli 2024, 21:59:23 CEST schrieb Hans: > >> This is a newly created testmail! This one should appear without >> the SPAM tag. >> >> After I get this mail from the list, I resent a reply to this mail >> named Testmail_2. >> >> Hans > > Thi

Testmail_3: Reply to one of the mails from The Wanderer

Surprisingly Testmail_2 appeared WITHOUT the SPAM tag. This one is a reply of a mail from The Wanderer. I expect it WITH the SPAM tag from the debian list. Hans

Testmail_2: Re: Testmail_1: This is a new created mail!

Am Donnerstag, 4. Juli 2024, 21:59:23 CEST schrieb Hans: > This is a newly created testmail! This one should appear without the SPAM > tag. > > After I get this mail from the list, I resent a reply to this mail named > Testmail_2. > > Hans This is a reply to my own Testmail_1. I expect this on

Testmail_1: This is a new created mail!

This is a newly created testmail! This one should appear without the SPAM tag. After I get this mail from the list, I resent a reply to this mail named Testmail_2. Hans

Re: This is a testmail!

On 2024-07-04 at 15:25, Hans wrote: > Hi The Wanderer, > >> Hans, are you certain you composed those three messages the same >> way, using the same interface of the same program, and sent them >> the same way? > > No, the first mail was created natively (= a new mail), To clarify: the mail I li

Re: This is a testmail!

Hi The Wanderer, > Hans, are you certain you composed those three messages the same way, > using the same interface of the same program, and sent them the same > way? No, the first mail was created natively (= a new mail), the one with the "[SOLVED] in the subject was a reply to someones mail fro

Re: This is a testmail!

On 2024-07-04 at 12:59, Thomas Hochstein wrote: > Hans wrote: > >> Now I got my last mail back with the spam tag! > > That's very surprising. > >> X-Spam-Flag: YES >> X-SPAM-FACTOR: DKIM >> Authentication-Results: mail39c50.megamailservers.eu; >> dkim=fail reason="signature verification failed

Re: This is a testmail!

Hans wrote: > Now I got my last mail back with the spam tag! That's very surprising. > X-Spam-Flag: YES > X-SPAM-FACTOR: DKIM > Authentication-Results: mail39c50.megamailservers.eu; > dkim=fail reason="signature verification failed" (1024-bit key) > header.d=megamailservers.eu header.i=@megama

Re: Using packaged Nix

(sorry Nicolas, I first sent you a private mail instead of posting on this list, my bad) Le 04/07/2024 à 15:07, Nicolas George a écrit : > Unfortunately, no luck. > > error: selector '.*libossp_uuid.*' matches no derivations [...] Guix, the GNU version of Nix, seems (at least basically) fun

Re: small font

On 2024-07-04, Richard wrote: > Right, because 4x = 10x. Jesus, stop being so ridiculous. Also, there's > some magic trick called compression. Human readable text is especially easy > to compress, basically negating all those effects. So just stick to > reality, everything else is just embarrassin

Re: Using packaged Nix

Le 04/07/2024 à 15:07, Nicolas George a écrit : Unfortunately, no luck. [...] What I need is something that explains how to use Nix on Debian when all you have are documentations about Nix not on Debian. I tried the Debian way (installing nix-setup-systemd, which install nix-bin) without su

Re: GUI-Login on bookworm-VM in a cloud

Hello, > To get to the bottom of the problem, I upgraded a bullseye VM > to a bookworm VM step by step: first libc, then the Xorg- > packages, then the kernel, then sddm, lightdm and gdm3, and finally the > rest. Unfortunately, it was only after the rest that the GUI login no > longer appeared; the

Re: small font

Right, because 4x = 10x. Jesus, stop being so ridiculous. Also, there's some magic trick called compression. Human readable text is especially easy to compress, basically negating all those effects. So just stick to reality, everything else is just embarrassing. On Thu, Jul 4, 2024, 16:48 Greg Woo

Re: small font

On Thu, Jul 04, 2024 at 16:19:44 +0200, Richard wrote: > If you ever want to be taken seriously, stop spreading such bogus nonsense. > Even base64 encoding wouldn't blow up the size that much. No idea what bs > mail you are talking about, but for me, both the plain text and html > version are said

Re: small font

If you ever want to be taken seriously, stop spreading such bogus nonsense. Even base64 encoding wouldn't blow up the size that much. No idea what bs mail you are talking about, but for me, both the plain text and html version are said to be 4k in size (by du). Even though that's not that exact, si

Re: Using packaged Nix

didier gaumet (12024-06-28): > Disclaimer: I have never used Nix Thanks for the heads up. I kind of hoped somebody who did would see this mail. > from the Nix to Debian phrasebook > ( https://nixos.wiki/wiki/Nix_to_Debian_phrasebook ) > I would try: > $ nix-env -qaP '.*libossp_uuid.*' Unfortunat

Re: small font

The bug is reported already, as that's by no means what's intended or what the settings would suggest. Anything beyond that is out of my hands. And as already explained, since there are enough tools out there to have messages look the way you want, this simply doesn't have any priority. Best On T

Re: small font

On Thu, Jul 04, 2024 at 11:29:43 +0200, Thomas Schmitt wrote: > Regrettably the list archives seem to have a preference for publishing > the HTML version of list mails. At least i see two different fonts in > an archived mail of Richard: > https://lists.debian.org/debian-user/2024/07/msg00124.htm

Re: small font

On Thu, Jul 04, 2024 at 19:09:47 +0800, jeremy ardley wrote: > Unless there is a compelling reason to accept mixed format ( HTML ) I can't > see why the list can't filter submissions to text only - which is the list > policy anyway - and by doing so provide education to users about what the > list

Re: This is a testmail!

Me again, sorry. Now I got my last mail back with the spam tag! Subject: Re: *SPAM* [SOLVED] Re: This is a testmail! This is the header: X-Spam-Flag: YES X-SPAM-FACTOR: DKIM X-Envelope-From: bounce-debian-user=hans.ullrich=loop...@lists.debian.org DMARC-Filter

Re: This is a testmail!

My apologies for flooding the list with what should have been a private mailing. Roger

Re: small font

On 2024-07-04, jeremy ardley wrote: > The problem is mostly because users have email software that automatically > uses mixed format. That's not their fault as they are probably unaware of the > problem. And lots of MUA only show HTML version, hiding the text copy and the problem. > Unless there

[SOLVED] Re: This is a testmail!

Am Donnerstag, 4. Juli 2024, 13:58:07 CEST schrieb Hans: Answering myself: At the moment everything is looking fine. Maybe after the big issue yesterday, the mail admins somewhere in the world have fixed the problem? Dunno. Whatever, strange. I will watch this in the future. Let's close

Re: This is a testmail!

Hi, this what I received from you. Cheers, Roger Return-path: Envelope-to: rprice@localhost Delivery-date: Thu, 04 Jul 2024 13:17:06 +0200 Received: from [::1] (helo=titan.rogerprice.org) by titan with esmtp (Exim 4.94.2) (envelope-from ) id 1sPKSX-000BB5-QT for rprice@localhost

Re: This is a testmail!

Hmm, this is strange. Maybe I wrote my testmail from scratch. This one is a reply as it have been, when the issue appeared. Strangely my own testmail appeared without the SPAM tag this time. Maybe there is a difference, if I am using a reply mail. I will watch this and search for more informat

Re: This is a testmail!

Subject and the content LGTM. -- Best, ID

Re: small font

On 07/04/2024 06:09 AM, jeremy ardley wrote: On 4/7/24 18:34, to...@tuxteam.de wrote: But let me try: perhaps because the people who set up the mailing list don't believe in enforcing behavior by technological means, but rather by convincing people? If I understand the history correctly: -

Re: This is a testmail!

On 2024-07-04 at 07:14, Hans wrote: > Hi folks, > > this is a testmail, because I got some trouble with the mailingist. > As reported before, I get all ,mails from > debian-user@lists.debian.org with tagged with *SPAM added to > the subject. This is because of some DKIM failure, as report

This is a testmail!

Hi folks, this is a testmail, because I got some trouble with the mailingist. As reported before, I get all ,mails from debian-user@lists.debian.org with tagged with *SPAM added to the subject. This is because of some DKIM failure, as reported before. As I could fix this by setting a sp

Re: small font

On 4/7/24 18:34, to...@tuxteam.de wrote: But let me try: perhaps because the people who set up the mailing list don't believe in enforcing behavior by technological means, but rather by convincing people? If I understand the history correctly: - All early email lists were text only - After

Re: small font

On Thu, Jul 04, 2024 at 06:20:22PM +0800, jeremy ardley wrote: > > > On 4/7/24 17:13, Roger Price wrote: > > > > The Debian mailing list Code of Conduct at > > https://www.debian.org/MailingLists/ > > is clear: > > > > « Please don't send your messages in HTML; use plain text instead » > > I p

Re: small font

On 4/7/24 17:13, Roger Price wrote: The Debian mailing list Code of Conduct at https://www.debian.org/MailingLists/ is clear: « Please don't send your messages in HTML; use plain text instead » I presume there is some compelling reason that the mailing list doesn't filter html emails an

Re: small font

On Thu, 4 Jul 2024, Michel Verdier wrote: Tell that to your mail progra= ---^^^ I would add that it's up to the *sender* mail program to send text only mail to this list (and others). As the html part is useless and multiply the mail size by almost 10.

Re: small font

Hi, Michel Verdier wrote: > I would add that it's up to the *sender* mail program to send text only > mail to this list (and others). I found this link in the monthly list FAQ: https://www.debian.org/MailingLists/#codeofconduct where i read: "Please don't send your messages in HTML; use pl

Re: small font

On 2024-07-04, Max Nikulin wrote: >> Tell that to your mail program. If it chooses to show you the mail that way, >> don't blame me. > > - insisting on an "industry standard" mail style > >> > y:arial,helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:small">Tell that to your mail progra= > >

Re: Creating PDF/A from LaTeX source and from existing PDF

The first bit is just a warning, not an error. Of course, you could check what has changed in v9.11 that makes this not recommended anymore. Maybe they already handle it internally when you set -dPDFACompatibilityPolicy=1 and the old setting can interfere. But when the output of the validator doesn

Re: GUI-Login on bookworm-VM in a cloud

Hello George, > Not sure if this is relevant or not, sadly probably not useful. It is helpful, though probably not in the matter from the email subject. But I installed qemu-guest-agent package in a VM without knowing that the virtual machine template should be made fit for it. Regards Christo

Re: nouveau on old NV GPUs (was: NVidia 340 video driver in Bookworm?)

Tried again, somehow there was no subject sent with my last mail. So, well, I believe I got a solution. However, not everyone might be happy with it, but maybe it will work. I am running the kernel 6.7.12+bpo-amd64 on my system. This is a backport kernel, but it might also work with other