On 25/6/24 07:53, The Wanderer wrote:
Although I don't think anything or anyone actually does it this way, I
think strictly speaking the correct 12-hour notation for that time would
be "12:00 M" - followed by 12:00:01 PM, and preceded by 11:59:59 AM.
Sorry to repeat you - well you did it MUC
On 24/6/24 23:41, Erwan David wrote:
AM/PM would not be so strange if between 11AM and 1 PM it was 12 AM ...
Umm 12Meridian??
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On 24/6/24 00:53, Curt wrote:
On 2024-06-23, Nicholas Geovanis wrote:
I think we are losing sight of the fact that all of timekeeping is an
abstraction and over-generalization. Time zones were created to help
regularize railroad schedules over wide areas. Timezones are an abstraction
that pe
On 23/6/24 23:22, e...@gmx.us wrote:
On 6/23/24 02:30, gene heskett wrote:
A attribute the FCC forced on broadcasters as they like to see
transmitter
logs kept in 24 hour time. I got so used to it that when I retired in
2002,
I'd been on 24 hour time for 40 years and didn't convert back to t
On 23/6/24 18:57, Brad Rogers wrote:
On Sun, 23 Jun 2024 15:35:14 +1000
Keith Bainbridge wrote:
Hello Keith,
+14:00?? I've only ever heard of maxima of +/- 12:00.
AFAIAC, it was political willy waving, nothing more; To be 'first' into
the new millennium.
As if that has any cachet what
On 23/6/24 18:56, Brad Rogers wrote:
On Sun, 23 Jun 2024 13:01:10 +1000
Keith Bainbridge wrote:
Hello Keith,
Not to mention some cultures change how words are spelt: colour, odour,
metres to quote a few.
Due, mainly, to the literacy of the people that moved, rather than any
deliberate cho
On Tue, Jun 25, 2024 at 12:48 PM Hans wrote:
>
> You can easily refotrmat it, either using fdisk or if you want a GUI, use
> gparted.
I just learned about fdisk today -- thank you!
Lee
On Wednesday, 26-06-2024 at 05:43 Lee wrote:
> On Tue, Jun 25, 2024 at 11:47 AM Joe wrote:
> >
> > On Tue, 25 Jun 2024 09:53:41 -0400
> > Lee wrote:
> >
> > > My old laptop died; I just got a new one and it has _no_ optical
> > > drive. But the Debian install from flash instructions were excel
Entire attribution and quote removed to avoid the mailing list
treating this post as spam.
I got the impression that Lee used windows in the past (and may
still), which is why I didn't suggest the same as Joe. (Lee did
write "on Debian").
And by devices, I was thinking more of TVs, printers, scan
Well,
The International BIPM writes the time with a colon:
https://www.bipm.org/en/
Best
Heriberto
On Tuesday, June 25, 2024, David Wright wrote:
> On Mon 24 Jun 2024 at 23:34:45 (+0800), Bret Busby wrote:
>> On 24/6/24 21:41, Erwan David wrote:
>> > Le 24/06/2024 à 22:38, Curt a écrit :
>
>> >
On Mon 24 Jun 2024 at 23:34:45 (+0800), Bret Busby wrote:
> On 24/6/24 21:41, Erwan David wrote:
> > Le 24/06/2024 à 22:38, Curt a écrit :
> > > When my mom came to visit one time in the nineties she requested I
> > > change my alarm clock to AM PM time (it is now 15:25 here in the Gallic
> > > re
On Mon 24 Jun 2024 at 17:12:18 (-0500), John Hasler wrote:
> The Wanderer writes:
> > (Similar logic could be used for 11:59:59 PM, 12:00 M, and 12:00:01 AM,
> > where the standalone M would stand for "midnight". That does expose one
> > unfortunate weakness of this system: unless you introduce an
On 6/25/24 15:43, Lee wrote:
Whoever came up with scroll bars
that play hide & seek should be tarred & feathered.
Agree. Most programs that do that crap can be convinced not to. Same with
Thunderbird putting the menu bar below that next bit, whatever you call it.
Search the net for | scrollba
On Tue, Jun 25, 2024 at 11:47 AM Joe wrote:
>
> On Tue, 25 Jun 2024 09:53:41 -0400
> Lee wrote:
>
> > My old laptop died; I just got a new one and it has _no_ optical
> > drive. But the Debian install from flash instructions were excellent
> > & I now have a laptop running Debian.
> >
> > My ques
On Tue, Jun 25, 2024 at 1:28 PM Thomas Schmitt wrote:
>
> Hi,
Hi,
I don't know what happened, but your msg _finaly_ showed up in my inbox.
Strange how it was delayed for so long..
> Lee wrote:
> > My question is: how do I reformat the flash drive so it's usable as a
> > "normal" flash drive agai
On Tue, 2024-06-25 at 09:47 -0400, Lee wrote:
> My old laptop died - a tiny little pop and it powered off. So I've
> lost my implementation reference.
If you can get the disk drive out of your old laptop, get a USB adapter
for it. Then you can look at your installation logs.
> My new laptop is a
On Tue, Jun 25, 2024 at 14:25:51 -0400, Roy J. Tellason, Sr. wrote:
> So I have this digital clock up there in my panel, and in the virtual
> machine here running Slackware I also have one. The one under Debian shows
> 00:00 when it hits midnight, while the one under Slackware shows 12:00...
>
On Monday 24 June 2024 05:53:00 pm The Wanderer wrote:
> On 2024-06-24 at 09:41, Erwan David wrote:
>
> > AM/PM would not be so strange if between 11AM and 1 PM it was 12 AM
> > ...
>
> Although I don't think anything or anyone actually does it this way, I
> think strictly speaking the correct 12
On Tue, Jun 25, 2024 at 08:01:26PM +0200, Detlef Vollmann wrote:
> On Mon, 24 Jun 2024 04:26:47 -0400
> Timothy M Butterworth wrote:
>
> > I use Master PDF Editor. It works great.
> > https://code-industry.net/free-pdf-editor/
>
> It looks nice.
> But being a closed source SW from Russia I'd be
On Mon, 24 Jun 2024 04:26:47 -0400
Timothy M Butterworth wrote:
> I use Master PDF Editor. It works great.
> https://code-industry.net/free-pdf-editor/
It looks nice.
But being a closed source SW from Russia I'd be careful to run
it outside of an isolated VM (which is actually true for most
clos
On 6/25/24 10:39, David Wright wrote:
Of course, we're not told what "normal" means, what was tried,
nor how normality was tested. It's possible that they need to
use, say, mkdosfs to get back to the state in which USB sticks
are typically bought, so it can be plugged into other devices.
I kee
You can easily refotrmat it, either using fdisk or if you want a GUI, use
gparted.
With fdisk (also you can use cfdisk) I suggest first to delete all partitions,
then create new one. Then choose your type (it is 0b for FAT32).
Write to disk and quit fdisk.
Then format the new partition, for v
Hi,
i wrote:
> $ sudo mount offset=2291712 /mnt/fat
For the archives, this would of course have to be
$ sudo mount offset=2291712 debian-12.2.0-amd64-netinst.iso /mnt/fat
The number 2291712 was computed from the partition start block 4476
multiplied by the block size 512.
Have a nice day :)
Hi,
David Wright wrote:
> Of course, we're not told what "normal" means,
I guess it's a single partition with FAT.
Around 2010 i got three USB sticks and kept their compressed original
content. For examination of their MBR partition tables it is enough to
cut off their heads:
$ gunzip what wa
On Tue, 25 Jun 2024 09:53:41 -0400
Lee wrote:
> My old laptop died; I just got a new one and it has _no_ optical
> drive. But the Debian install from flash instructions were excellent
> & I now have a laptop running Debian.
>
> My question is: how do I reformat the flash drive so it's usable as
On 25/06/2024 19:25, debian-u...@howorth.org.uk wrote:
Greg Wooledge wrote:
Here's another test:
hobbit:~$ TZ=Australia/Eucla printf '%(%z %Z)T\n' -1
+0845 +0845
That seems like a bug. I'd have expected:
+0845 ACWST
It was an intentional change, "+0845" is the abbreviation. That time it
c
On Tue 25 Jun 2024 at 16:23:16 (+0200), Thomas Schmitt wrote:
> Lee wrote:
> > My question is: how do I reformat the flash drive so it's usable as a
> > "normal" flash drive again?
>
> You have to delete the partitions of the USB stick which came with
> the ISO.
> Then you create one or more parti
On Tue 25 Jun 2024 at 18:46:26 (+1000), Keith Bainbridge wrote:
> On 23/6/24 00:52, David Wright wrote:
> > > Excellent. Now how do we get our MUA to do that when replying to mail,
> > > which is where I saw what I thought was a system error - but in fact
> > > was a misinterpretation.
> > I don't
Hi,
Lee wrote:
> My question is: how do I reformat the flash drive so it's usable as a
> "normal" flash drive again?
You have to delete the partitions of the USB stick which came with
the ISO.
Then you create one or more partitions.
Then you format them to a writable filesystem each.
If it shall
My old laptop died; I just got a new one and it has _no_ optical
drive. But the Debian install from flash instructions were excellent
& I now have a laptop running Debian.
My question is: how do I reformat the flash drive so it's usable as a
"normal" flash drive again?
Nothing I tried worked.. I
My old laptop died - a tiny little pop and it powered off. So I've
lost my implementation reference.
My new laptop is a Lenovo v15 G3 - installing
debian-12.5.0-amd64-netinst.iso from a flash drive was trivially easy.
Whoever worked on the how to install Debian from flash did an
excellent job.
B
On 2024-06-24, Van Snyder wrote:
>
> I composed a book in LaTeX because I wanted the equations to be set
> correctly -- and because I've been using LaTeX for decades and am most
> comfortable using it.
>
All I know is if I send a pdf file to my Kindle with the word "convert"
in the subject line (
On 6/25/24 07:47, Hans wrote:
Hi folks,
I am a little confused, because I got marble double on my system.
There is marble (package marble) and kde-marble (which is marble-qt), which
both look the same when started.
Question is, which one should be preferly installed and can one be left?
Idea
On Tue, Jun 25, 2024 at 13:25:10 +0100, debian-u...@howorth.org.uk wrote:
> Greg Wooledge wrote:
> > Here's another test:
> >
> > hobbit:~$ TZ=Australia/Eucla printf '%(%z %Z)T\n' -1
> > +0845 +0845
>
> That seems like a bug. I'd have expected:
>
> +0845 ACWST
My guess is the time zone names a
Greg Wooledge wrote:
> Here's another test:
>
> hobbit:~$ TZ=Australia/Eucla printf '%(%z %Z)T\n' -1
> +0845 +0845
That seems like a bug. I'd have expected:
+0845 ACWST
Hi folks,
I am a little confused, because I got marble double on my system.
There is marble (package marble) and kde-marble (which is marble-qt), which
both look the same when started.
Question is, which one should be preferly installed and can one be left?
I am running Plasma (KDE), buz I a
On Tue, Jun 25, 2024 at 18:35:00 +1000, Keith Bainbridge wrote:
> On 23/6/24 00:02, Greg Wooledge wrote:
> > In mutt, it would be:
> >
> > set date_format="!It's %a %d%b%Y at %H:%M:%S here, where clocks are
> > UTC%z"
>
> I believe UTC%Z will give the :
>
> as I get from my text expander.
Hi!
Description:Debian GNU/Linux 12 (bookworm)
Scanner: Hewlett Packard ScanJet 2410c
$ scanimage --list-devices
OUT:
device `genesys:libusb:003:012' is a Hewlett Packard ScanJet 2400c flatbed
scanner
See as 2400c now 2410c.
$ scanimage --device-name=genesys:libusb:003:012 --format=png
On 23/6/24 00:52, David Wright wrote:
Excellent. Now how do we get our MUA to do that when replying to mail,
which is where I saw what I thought was a system error - but in fact
was a misinterpretation.
I don't see the point. The email has a "Date:" header.
Sounds like I'm the only one who m
On 24.06.24 23:28, jeremy ardley wrote:
[...]You have your content in a neutral format [...]
ooxml is far from "neutral"...
What you don't do is use these output formats as your primary content.
Obviously not. That's why they are publishing formats, as in you send that in
to be published,
On 23/6/24 00:02, Greg Wooledge wrote:
In mutt, it would be:
set date_format="!It's %a %d%b%Y at %H:%M:%S here, where clocks are UTC%z"
I believe UTC%Z will give the :
as I get from my text expander.
Tue 25Jun2024 at 18:34:20 =UTC +10:00
--
All the best
Keith Bainbridge
keithr...@g
On Mon, Jun 24, 2024 at 06:21:57PM -0400, The Wanderer wrote:
> On 2024-06-24 at 18:12, John Hasler wrote:
>
> > The Wanderer writes:
> >
> >> (Similar logic could be used for 11:59:59 PM, 12:00 M, and 12:00:01 AM,
> >> where the standalone M would stand for "midnight". That does expose one
> >> u
On 25/6/24 13:59, Jeff Peng wrote:
does gtp4all have a shell only interface? my debian is remote server,
has no desktop.
GPT4ALl hosts a webservice on localhost - 127.0.0.1
There are many ways to access that including using haproxy or running a
web browser on the server using X tunnelin
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