Re: PDF Editor for Debian

2024-06-23 Thread Klaus Singvogel
Arbol One wrote: > Is there a PDF editor that would work with Debian 12? It's depending on what you understand under "edit", and whether you expect to use Free Open Source Software (FOSS) or not. If you just want to fill out forms (JavaScript), then I'd recommend the FOSS programs: chromium bro

Re: About dash as sh

2024-06-23 Thread Jeffrey Walton
On Mon, Jun 24, 2024 at 2:16 AM Nicolas George wrote: > > Stefan Monnier (12024-06-21): > > And if it's not a tty, you get some kind of Undefined Behavior? > > Knowing that “undefined behavior” is just an expression invented by C > standards authors to make “we make no guarantee about it, use it a

Re: About dash as sh

2024-06-23 Thread Nicolas George
Stefan Monnier (12024-06-21): > And if it's not a tty, you get some kind of Undefined Behavior? Knowing that “undefined behavior” is just an expression invented by C standards authors to make “we make no guarantee about it, use it at your own risk” sound more scary, I do not think it is a severe p

Re: PDF Editor for Debian

2024-06-23 Thread Richard
Hello, this very much depends on what you are expecting it to do. In general, PDFs are only meant to be viewed - and printed - they where never meant for anything else. Even filling out forms is just s bad hackjob through JavaScript. That being said, there is software with PDF editing capabilities

Re: OT - list mail claimed to be "known" spam!

2024-06-23 Thread Felix Miata
CHRIS M composed on 2024-06-23 21:36 (UTC-0500): > Felix Miata wrote: >> Stefan's isn't the only, but few others from any source become repeats, one >> of which is every notification of new post added to subscribed thread on >> forums.opensuse.org. >> Trying to get EL to stop putting subscribed

Re: OT - list mail claimed to be "known" spam!

2024-06-23 Thread John Hasler
Felix Miata wrote: > Trying to get EL to stop putting subscribed email into "known spam" is > futile. The mechanism EL provides to avoid such diversions doesn't work > with debian mailing list posts. Quit using EL email. Use Pobox. Yes, it costs money. It's worth it. -- John Hasler j...@sugar

Re: OT - list mail claimed to be "known" spam! (was: mounting external hard drive...)

2024-06-23 Thread CHRIS M
On Sunday 23 June 2024 03:54:36 pm Felix Miata wrote: > > Stefan's isn't the only, but few others from any source become repeats, one > of which is every notification of new post added to subscribed thread on > forums.opensuse.org. > > Trying to get EL to stop putting subscribed email into "known

PDF Editor for Debian

2024-06-23 Thread Arbol One
Hello. Is there a PDF editor that would work with Debian 12? Thanks. -- */ArbolOne.ca/* Using Fire Fox and Thunderbird. ArbolOne is composed of students and volunteers dedicated to providing free services to charitable organizations. ArbolOne on Java Development is in progress [ í ]

Re: System time/timezone, was Re: Maximum size .bash_aliases file

2024-06-23 Thread David Wright
On Sun 23 Jun 2024 at 08:41:51 (-0400), Greg Wooledge wrote: > On Sat, Jun 22, 2024 at 23:25:43 -0500, David Wright wrote: > > creation of Pacific/Kiritimati (+14:00), which became a press > > story at the start of the new millennium. > > > > $ TZ=Pacific/Kiritamati date; TZ=Australia/Eucla date >

Re: OT - list mail claimed to be "known" spam!

2024-06-23 Thread Stefan Monnier
[ Sent directly to debian-user@lists. ] > FWIW, this reply goes to list because I expect high probability Stefan would > not > see it otherwise. Most mailing list posts flow through to me unimpeded. Not so > with Stefan's. AFAICT, every one of his is captured by Earthlink.net's "known > spam" fo

Re: OT - list mail claimed to be "known" spam! (was: mounting external hard drive...)

2024-06-23 Thread Felix Miata
Stefan Monnier composed on 2024-06-23 12:35 (UTC-0400): ... FWIW, this reply goes to list because I expect high probability Stefan would not see it otherwise. Most mailing list posts flow through to me unimpeded. Not so with Stefan's. AFAICT, every one of his is captured by Earthlink.net's "known s

Re: System time/timezone, was Re: Maximum size .bash_aliases file

2024-06-23 Thread John Hasler
Brad Rogers writes: > Due, mainly, to the literacy of the people that moved, rather than any > deliberate choice. That is, spelling was often a 'best guess'. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Webster's_Dictionary#Noah_Webster's_American_Dictionary_of_the_English_Language -- John Hasler j...@sugarb

Re: mounting external hard drive from rescue mode shell?

2024-06-23 Thread tomas
On Sun, Jun 23, 2024 at 12:35:19PM -0400, Stefan Monnier wrote: > Indeed my trusty old Thinkpad X30 [...] > - Take the HDD out of the X30 [...] Ah, the old Thinkpads. Swapping out the HD always just one screw away. I'll miss my old X230 (one of the last capable of this trick) which is in proces

Re: mounting external hard drive from rescue mode shell?

2024-06-23 Thread Stefan Monnier
> Relevant laptop is so old I don't know if it can boot from a physical USB > device. I was suspecting that simplest thing would be copying suitable image > to hard drive and let GRUB earn its keep ;} Indeed my trusty old Thinkpad X30 doesn't boot from USB keys (tho in theory it can boot from a US

Re: htmldoc default font size

2024-06-23 Thread eben
On 6/23/24 10:32, Roger Price wrote: I'm using htmldoc 1.9.11-4+deb11u3 to convert html files to pdf.  When playing with the fontsize option I discover that the default is not a whole number, more like 11.2 points. Hmm, maybe the author used something in mm? Weird. 4mm is 11.33 points. -- An

Re: htmldoc default font size

2024-06-23 Thread Dan Ritter
Roger Price wrote: > I'm using htmldoc 1.9.11-4+deb11u3 to convert html files to pdf. When > playing with the fontsize option I discover that the default is not a whole > number, more like 11.2 points. Is this the expected behaviour ? > > Background: The manual at https://www.msweet.org/htmldoc

htmldoc default font size

2024-06-23 Thread Roger Price
I'm using htmldoc 1.9.11-4+deb11u3 to convert html files to pdf. When playing with the fontsize option I discover that the default is not a whole number, more like 11.2 points. Is this the expected behaviour ? Background: The manual at https://www.msweet.org/htmldoc/htmldoc.html#3_2_23 says

Re: System time/timezone, was Re: Maximum size .bash_aliases file

2024-06-23 Thread Curt
On 2024-06-23, Nicholas Geovanis wrote: > > I think we are losing sight of the fact that all of timekeeping is an > abstraction and over-generalization. Time zones were created to help > regularize railroad schedules over wide areas. Timezones are an abstraction > that permit us to _pretend_ that

Re: System time/timezone, was Re: Maximum size .bash_aliases file

2024-06-23 Thread gene heskett
On 6/23/24 09:23, e...@gmx.us wrote: On 6/23/24 02:30, gene heskett wrote: A attribute the FCC forced on broadcasters as they like to see transmitter logs kept in 24 hour time. I got so used to it that when I retired in 2002, I'd been on 24 hour time for 40 years and didn't convert back to two

Re: System time/timezone, was Re: Maximum size .bash_aliases file

2024-06-23 Thread eben
On 6/23/24 02:30, gene heskett wrote: A attribute the FCC forced on broadcasters as they like to see transmitter logs kept in 24 hour time. I got so used to it that when I retired in 2002, I'd been on 24 hour time for 40 years and didn't convert back to two 12 hour periods a day. I started usi

Re: System time/timezone, was Re: Maximum size .bash_aliases file

2024-06-23 Thread Greg Wooledge
On Sat, Jun 22, 2024 at 23:25:43 -0500, David Wright wrote: > creation of Pacific/Kiritimati (+14:00), which became a press > story at the start of the new millennium. > > $ TZ=Pacific/Kiritamati date; TZ=Australia/Eucla date > Sun Jun 23 04:24:54 Pacific 2024 > Sun Jun 23 13:09:54 +0845 2024 > $

Re: mounting external hard drive from rescue mode shell?

2024-06-23 Thread Andrew M.A. Cater
On Sat, Jun 22, 2024 at 10:38:29PM +, Andy Smith wrote: > Hi, > > On Sat, Jun 22, 2024 at 12:37:29PM -0500, Richard Owlett wrote: > > Will I outlive Debian 11/12? > > Well we're only talking a small single digit number of years here, > so I hope you have reason to be optimistic. > A colleag

Re: System time/timezone, was Re: Maximum size .bash_aliases file

2024-06-23 Thread Brad Rogers
On Sun, 23 Jun 2024 15:35:14 +1000 Keith Bainbridge wrote: Hello Keith, >+14:00?? I've only ever heard of maxima of +/- 12:00. AFAIAC, it was political willy waving, nothing more; To be 'first' into the new millennium. As if that has any cachet whatsoever. -- Regards _ "Valid sig

Re: MoinMoin wikis and Debian 11+

2024-06-23 Thread Richard Hector
On 20/06/24 23:21, Greg Wooledge wrote: As we're nearing the end of life for Debian 10, I'm still wondering what MoinMoin wiki users are supposed to do. (This includes as near as I can see from SystemInfo.) MoinMoin 1.x requires Python2, and Debian 11 and newer don't

Re: System time/timezone, was Re: Maximum size .bash_aliases file

2024-06-23 Thread Brad Rogers
On Sun, 23 Jun 2024 13:01:10 +1000 Keith Bainbridge wrote: Hello Keith, >Not to mention some cultures change how words are spelt: colour, odour, >metres to quote a few. Due, mainly, to the literacy of the people that moved, rather than any deliberate choice. That is, spelling was often a 'bes