Re: CD/DVD is obsolete or deprecate at 2025?

Am 18.06.2024 um 02:44:46 Uhr schrieb Vitold S: > More and more I see that people usually use USB flash drives everyday > and some large companies (like Microsoft) today provide an image with > a USB stick. Most new computers don't have an optical disc drive, customers don't request it and if the

Re: CD/DVD is obsolete or deprecate at 2025?

> No! Some of us want to keep using DVD and not be pushed away In which sense would it push you away. I'm not suggesting any change to the ISO files themselves. Only changes to the doc to clarify that these are images that are expected to be used on USB flash dirves (and they also work on CD/DVD,

System time/timezone, was Re: Maximum size .bash_aliases file

On Mon 17 Jun 2024 at 19:40:30 (+0200), to...@tuxteam.de wrote: > On Mon, Jun 17, 2024 at 01:20:53PM -0400, Greg Wooledge wrote: > > On Mon, Jun 17, 2024 at 18:22:29 +0200, to...@tuxteam.de wrote: > > > On Mon, Jun 17, 2024 at 09:14:38AM -0500, David Wright wrote: > > > > > > > You asked after you

Re: CD/DVD is obsolete or deprecate at 2025?

No! Some of us want to keep using DVD and not be pushed away On 6/17/2024 6:00 PM, Stefan Monnier wrote: Is there a chance to change in next versions i.e. Debain 13 or other versions an assembly specifically for a USB flash drive as primary download? Do you think the time has come? When do you

Re: CD/DVD is obsolete or deprecate at 2025?

On 18/6/24 09:00, Stefan Monnier wrote: Is there a chance to change in next versions i.e. Debain 13 or other versions an assembly specifically for a USB flash drive as primary download? Do you think the time has come? When do you think this moment will happen? AFAIK, all the so-called CD/DVD

Re: CD/DVD is obsolete or deprecate at 2025?

> Is there a chance to change in next versions i.e. Debain 13 or other > versions an assembly specifically for a USB flash drive as primary > download? Do you think the time has come? When do you think this moment > will happen? AFAIK, all the so-called CD/DVD images work just fine when "burned"

Re: Modifying Desktop Icons

> On 17 Jun 2024, at 20:45, Pranjal Singh wrote: > >  > Hi, > > I am trying to modify the Firefox desktop icon so that it opens > an incognito window by default. > > ... > > - Exec=firefox %u > + Exec=firefox -private-window %u > Assuming that's not a typo, please try: --private-window (

Re: CD/DVD is obsolete or deprecate at 2025?

Vitold S wrote: > Is there a chance to change in next versions i.e. Debain 13 or other > versions an assembly specifically for a USB flash drive as primary > download? Do you think the time has come? When do you think this moment > will happen? Several years ago. https://www.debian.org/distrib/n

Re: CD/DVD is obsolete or deprecate at 2025?

On 6/17/24 19:44, Vitold S wrote: Today in my environment I can be faced with a CD only for scaring away birds or as an intricate amulet on teenagers’ backpacks as a reference to the era of their parents, but not for recording images. Let's say, is this my particular progressive experience, or do

CD/DVD is obsolete or deprecate at 2025?

Good news everyone, Sorry that the question may have already been clarified earlier, but I am not a regular member of the user mailing list, so I ask it again. Every time I download the Debian image, I am faced with a moral disorder and philosophically go on a historical journey into the past, so

Re: Access and Back-up a Root locked laptop

On 17 Jun 2024 13:33 -0600, from avelinoheribe...@gmail.com (HERIBERTO AVELINO): > My root account is locked. I experienced the well known issue "Debian > authentication failure" at the log-in stage, i.e. it would not accept the > root password. I haven't heard of any specific issue like that, but

Re: Bookworm: IBM DSD3300 iSCSI connection problem [solved]

On 6/17/24 11:04, Timothy M Butterworth wrote: On Sun, Jun 16, 2024 at 3:41 PM Greg > wrote: Hi there, I'm trying to mount iscsi share exported from old IBM DS3300. Unfortunately I get the following error: ping timeout of 5 secs expired, recv timeout 5,

Re: Access and Back-up a Root locked laptop

Hi, On Mon, Jun 17, 2024 at 01:33:12PM -0600, HERIBERTO AVELINO wrote: > My root account is locked. I experienced the well known issue "Debian > authentication failure" at the log-in stage, i.e. it would not accept the > root password. With physical access to the machine and without an encrypted

Re: Access and Back-up a Root locked laptop

On 6/17/24 15:33, HERIBERTO AVELINO wrote: Dear all My root account is locked. I experienced the well known issue "Debian authentication failure" at the log-in stage, i.e. it would not accept the root password. I accessed the BIOS to enter the safe mode, and discovered that my hard drive is almos

Re: Modifying Desktop Icons

On 6/17/24 15:29, Pranjal Singh wrote: Hi, I am trying to modify the Firefox desktop icon so that it opens an incognito window by default. ... What I've done is changing /usr/share/applications/firefox.desktop: - Exec=firefox %u + Exec=firefox -private-window %u I also created a desktop fi

Modifying Desktop Icons

Hi, I am trying to modify the Firefox desktop icon so that it opens an incognito window by default. I've modified and created .desktop files as per tutorials on the net and rebooted, but it doesn't work. What I've done is changing /usr/share/applications/firefox.desktop: - Exec=firefox %u + Ex

Access and Back-up a Root locked laptop

Dear all My root account is locked. I experienced the well known issue "Debian authentication failure" at the log-in stage, i.e. it would not accept the root password. I accessed the BIOS to enter the safe mode, and discovered that my hard drive is almost full. I shall not attempt a fresh partition

Re: can't connect to eduroam due to SSL3 unsupported protocol

Vincent Lefevre wrote: > On 2024-06-17 08:26:39 -0400, Dan Ritter wrote: > > On stable: > > $ openssl list -disabled > > Disabled algorithms: > > IDEA > > MD2 > > MDC2 > > RC5 > > SCTP > > SSL3 > > ZLIB > > > > So, SSL3 support was removed at least that long ago. I think it > > was actually dropp

Re: Maximum size .bash_aliases file

On Mon, Jun 17, 2024 at 01:20:53PM -0400, Greg Wooledge wrote: [...] > > The "system" being "on" a timezone is something that, under Unix, > > doesn't make sense. > > Time zones are not in effect for users, either; they're in effect for > processes [...] Right you are. Cheers -- t signature

Re: Time, was Re: Maximum size .bash_aliases file

On 6/17/24 11:36, David Wright wrote: On Mon 17 Jun 2024 at 10:23:46 (-0400), Greg Wooledge wrote: I wonder if Keith's confusion is simply due to my MUA using "AM" and "PM" in its attribution line, and Keith not seeing the "PM". Maybe I should look into configuring that differently. Along wit

Re: Maximum size .bash_aliases file

On Mon, Jun 17, 2024 at 18:22:29 +0200, to...@tuxteam.de wrote: > On Mon, Jun 17, 2024 at 09:14:38AM -0500, David Wright wrote: > > [...] > > > You asked after your /system/ clock. I don't think I can tell whether > > it's set to UTC or Local Time, but only that it is correct, whichever > > it it

Re: Maximum size .bash_aliases file

On Mon, Jun 17, 2024 at 09:14:38AM -0500, David Wright wrote: [...] > You asked after your /system/ clock. I don't think I can tell whether > it's set to UTC or Local Time, but only that it is correct, whichever > it it on. Likewise the hardware RTC. The third line of /etc/adjtime > says what the

Re: Maximum size .bash_aliases file

On Mon 17 Jun 2024 at 18:47:41 (+1000), Keith Bainbridge wrote: > On 17/6/24 14:20, David Wright wrote: > > On Sun 16 Jun 2024 at 18:13:36 (+1000), Keith Bainbridge wrote: > > > > > > Some of my aliases stopped working after months of working as I > > > expected. And udating the .bash_aliases kept

Re: Time, was Re: Maximum size .bash_aliases file

On Mon, Jun 17, 2024 at 10:36:59 -0500, David Wright wrote: > On Mon 17 Jun 2024 at 10:23:46 (-0400), Greg Wooledge wrote: > > /etc/timezone is only used by some legacy programs. All the current > > ones should be using /etc/localtime instead, which is a symlink to a > > binary zoneinfo file, rath

Time, was Re: Maximum size .bash_aliases file

On Mon 17 Jun 2024 at 10:23:46 (-0400), Greg Wooledge wrote: > On Mon, Jun 17, 2024 at 09:14:38AM -0500, David Wright wrote: > > You asked after your /system/ clock. I don't think I can tell whether > > it's set to UTC or Local Time, but only that it is correct, whichever > > it it on. Likewise the

Re: can't connect to eduroam due to SSL3 unsupported protocol

Richard (12024-06-17): > There is a coordination, so you can use the same login data all over the > world. At least that's how it's supposed to work. But afaik the protocols > themselves aren't predefined. That's up to the local IT department how they > implement this. Authentication should always

Re: can't connect to eduroam due to SSL3 unsupported protocol

There is a coordination, so you can use the same login data all over the world. At least that's how it's supposed to work. But afaik the protocols themselves aren't predefined. That's up to the local IT department how they implement this. Authentication should always be done locally, with synchroni

Re: can't connect to eduroam due to SSL3 unsupported protocol

On 2024-06-17 10:18:09 -0400, Stefan Monnier wrote: > > Under Debian/unstable, I can't connect to eduroam due to the following > > reason: > > AFAIK, while "the eduroam" looks like one thing it's just a bunch of > local wifi networks, each one administered&managed mostly independently > and with d

Re: time display was: Re: Maximum size .bash_aliases file

On Mon, Jun 17, 2024 at 15:56:13 +0100, debian-u...@howorth.org.uk wrote: > Keith Bainbridge wrote: > > On 16/6/24 23:50, Greg Wooledge wrote: > > > On Sun, Jun 16, 2024 at 06:13:36PM +1000, Keith Bainbridge wrote: > > > > It was late afternoon on 16Jun2024 that I wrote this. Possibly > > 18:13

time display was: Re: Maximum size .bash_aliases file

Keith Bainbridge wrote: > On 16/6/24 23:50, Greg Wooledge wrote: > > On Sun, Jun 16, 2024 at 06:13:36PM +1000, Keith Bainbridge wrote: > > It was late afternoon on 16Jun2024 that I wrote this. Possibly > 18:13:36 when I pressed send. I'd reckon it would likely have been > 08:13:36 UTC What's wr

Re: Corrupt MATE configuration due to OPERATOR ERROR

Richard Owlett wrote: > I created a new, _apparently_ identical, panel. > *HOWEVER* > it displays something for each item open/active in *ANY* workspace. > > How do I get back to displaying something for each item open/active in > the *CURRENT* workspace? This is the "window list" applet that

Re: Maximum size .bash_aliases file

On Mon, Jun 17, 2024 at 09:14:38AM -0500, David Wright wrote: > You asked after your /system/ clock. I don't think I can tell whether > it's set to UTC or Local Time, but only that it is correct, whichever > it it on. Likewise the hardware RTC. The third line of /etc/adjtime > says what the RTC is

Re: can't connect to eduroam due to SSL3 unsupported protocol

> Under Debian/unstable, I can't connect to eduroam due to the following > reason: AFAIK, while "the eduroam" looks like one thing it's just a bunch of local wifi networks, each one administered&managed mostly independently and with different configurations. By and large, if you can connect to ed

Re: can't connect to eduroam due to SSL3 unsupported protocol

On 2024-06-17 08:26:39 -0400, Dan Ritter wrote: > On stable: > $ openssl list -disabled > Disabled algorithms: > IDEA > MD2 > MDC2 > RC5 > SCTP > SSL3 > ZLIB > > So, SSL3 support was removed at least that long ago. I think it > was actually dropped around 2016. That's strange because when I insta

Re: Maximum size .bash_aliases file

On Mon 17 Jun 2024 at 18:26:19 (+1000), Keith Bainbridge wrote: > On 16/6/24 23:50, Greg Wooledge wrote: > > On Sun, Jun 16, 2024 at 06:13:36PM +1000, Keith Bainbridge wrote: > > It was late afternoon on 16Jun2024 that I wrote this. Possibly > 18:13:36 when I pressed send. I'd reckon it would like

Re: Corrupt MATE configuration due to OPERATOR ERROR

On Mon, 17 Jun 2024 05:35:17 -0500 Richard Owlett wrote: > ENVIRONMENT: > Running Debian 9.13 with MATE 1.16.3 on DELL LATITUDE E6410 laptop > an external monitor is used via ARandR 0.1.9 > Using SeaMonkey 2.49.4 for browser and email > Yes. Multiple rev's behind. Doing housekeepi

Re: Virtual Terminal has seen better days

Mike writes: > Thinking back, I seem to recall the issue with the screen turning off > started after I switched from Nouveau to the Nvidia driver. It fixed > the issue I had with X but broke my console. I think I had a similar issue some years ago and these two lines /etc/default/grub helped:

Re: can't connect to eduroam due to SSL3 unsupported protocol

If your university still uses SSL 3.x instead on TLS there might be something wrong. You could check on cat.eduroam.org if there's an installer for your university, that's usually the easiest way to set up eduroam. On paper, Debian does support PWD, but in reality I was never able to use it, while

Re: can't connect to eduroam due to SSL3 unsupported protocol

Vincent Lefevre wrote: > Hi, > > Under Debian/unstable, I can't connect to eduroam due to the following > reason: > > Jun 17 13:58:31 qaa wpa_supplicant[1184]: wlp0s20f3: > CTRL-EVENT-EAP-PROPOSED-METHOD vendor=0 method=25 > Jun 17 13:58:31 qaa wpa_supplicant[1184]: wlp0s20f3: CTRL-EVENT-EAP-ME

Re: Maximum size .bash_aliases file

On Mon, Jun 17, 2024 at 10:00:49PM +1000, Keith Bainbridge wrote: [...] > Good evening Tomas [...] > BUT how do we know where to look if the error is reported several lines > above it's true position - admittedly blank lines; but? Seems you got it sorted out. Congrats :-) Cheers -- t signa

Re: can't connect to eduroam due to SSL3 unsupported protocol

Am 17.06.2024 um 14:07:13 Uhr schrieb Vincent Lefevre: > Anyone knows what's wrong? If they really rely on SSL3.0 it is the fault of the network operator because that protocol is outdated, has some vulnerabilities and is deprecated for years. Most systems have it disabled by default. -- Gruß Ma

can't connect to eduroam due to SSL3 unsupported protocol

Hi, Under Debian/unstable, I can't connect to eduroam due to the following reason: Jun 17 13:58:31 qaa wpa_supplicant[1184]: wlp0s20f3: CTRL-EVENT-EAP-PROPOSED-METHOD vendor=0 method=25 Jun 17 13:58:31 qaa wpa_supplicant[1184]: wlp0s20f3: CTRL-EVENT-EAP-METHOD EAP vendor 0 method 25 (PEAP) sele

Re: Maximum size .bash_aliases file

On 17/6/24 19:15, to...@tuxteam.de wrote: On Mon, Jun 17, 2024 at 06:47:41PM +1000, Keith Bainbridge wrote: On 17/6/24 14:20, David Wright wrote: Just some random thoughts: On Sun 16 Jun 2024 at 18:13:36 (+1000), Keith Bainbridge wrote: [...] All the aliases that lie textually after the

Re: Maximum size .bash_aliases file

On Mon, Jun 17, 2024 at 06:26:19PM +1000, Keith Bainbridge wrote: > On 16/6/24 23:50, Greg Wooledge wrote: > > On Sun, Jun 16, 2024 at 06:13:36PM +1000, Keith Bainbridge wrote: > > It was late afternoon on 16Jun2024 that I wrote this. Possibly 18:13:36 when > I pressed send. I'd reckon it would li

Re: Maximum size .bash_aliases file

On Mon, Jun 17, 2024 at 06:47:41PM +1000, Keith Bainbridge wrote: > On 17/6/24 14:20, David Wright wrote: > > All the aliases that lie textually after the one with the missing ' > > will remain undefined, so you can use bisection to locate where in > > the file problem lies. > > If I didn't use a

Re: Maximum size .bash_aliases file

On 6/17/24 04:26, Keith Bainbridge wrote: On 16/6/24 23:50, Greg Wooledge wrote: On Sun, Jun 16, 2024 at 06:13:36PM +1000, Keith Bainbridge wrote: It was late afternoon on 16Jun2024 that I wrote this. Possibly 18:13:36 when I pressed send. I'd reckon it would likely have been 08:13:36 UTC

Corrupt MATE configuration due to OPERATOR ERROR

ENVIRONMENT: Running Debian 9.13 with MATE 1.16.3 on DELL LATITUDE E6410 laptop an external monitor is used via ARandR 0.1.9 Using SeaMonkey 2.49.4 for browser and email Yes. Multiple rev's behind. Doing housekeeping before updating ;} MATE with installation defaults had run fine. Lon

Re: Upgrading Buster LTS (10) to Bookworm (current stable) concerns

On Mon, Jun 17, 2024 at 3:38 AM Nick Sal wrote: > > I plan to upgrade a server running Buster to Bookworm. > Server is running: {web,mail} servers, mysql and postregre, docker, ssh, > ldap, ferm (firewall), and few other non-critical services. > > I'd like to appeal to your experience for a coupl

Re: Maximum size .bash_aliases file

On Mon, Jun 17, 2024 at 06:47:41PM +1000, Keith Bainbridge wrote: > > On 17/6/24 14:20, David Wright wrote: > > Just some random thoughts: > > > > On Sun 16 Jun 2024 at 18:13:36 (+1000), Keith Bainbridge wrote: [...] > > All the aliases that lie textually after the one with the missing ' > > wi

Re: Bookworm: IBM DSD3300 iSCSI connection problem

On Sun, Jun 16, 2024 at 3:41 PM Greg wrote: > Hi there, > > I'm trying to mount iscsi share exported from old IBM DS3300. > Unfortunately I get the following error: > > ping timeout of 5 secs expired, recv timeout 5, last rx 4405941922, > last >

Re: Upgrading Buster LTS (10) to Bookworm (current stable) concerns

On 17 Jun 2024 03:41 +, from specialrou...@proton.me (Nick Sal): > 1) Should I upgrade in two steps from Buster to Bullseye > (oldstable), and then to Bookworm? Or should I go directly from > Buster to Bookworm in one step? > The upgrade will be done by changing sources.list NEVER skip major

Re: Maximum size .bash_aliases file

On 16/6/24 20:02, DdB wrote: Am 16.06.2024 um 10:13 schrieb Keith Bainbridge:> Practical Limitations Environment Variables: Bash has a limit on the number of environment variables it can store, which is typically around 32,000. If you define too many aliases, you may exceed this limit, c

Re: Maximum size .bash_aliases file

On 16/6/24 23:20, Richard wrote: "And udating the .bash_aliases kept giving me an error referring to an end of file before the matching ' in one of the last aliases." This doesn't refer to a size limitation, but a syntax error. As in: the end of the file was reached before the matching ' was

Re: Maximum size .bash_aliases file

On 17/6/24 14:20, David Wright wrote: Just some random thoughts: On Sun 16 Jun 2024 at 18:13:36 (+1000), Keith Bainbridge wrote: Some of my aliases stopped working after months of working as I expected. And udating the .bash_aliases kept giving me an error referring to an end of file before

Re: Maximum size .bash_aliases file

On 16/6/24 23:50, Greg Wooledge wrote: On Sun, Jun 16, 2024 at 06:13:36PM +1000, Keith Bainbridge wrote: It was late afternoon on 16Jun2024 that I wrote this. Possibly 18:13:36 when I pressed send. I'd reckon it would likely have been 08:13:36 UTC What's wrong with my system clock. I've no