Re: last(1) missing after upgrade from 12.5 to sid (util-linux 2.38.1 to 2.40.1-4)

2024-06-03 Thread tom
June 3, 2024 at 9:09 PM, t...@tommiller.us wrote: > > Hello! > > last(1) seems to have disappeared following an upgrade from 12.5 to sid. > > More info is shown below. What is my mistake? Or, could it be a bug? > > Please send me copies of replies since I am not subscribed to this list. >

Re: last(1) missing after upgrade from 12.5 to sid (util-linux 2.38.1 to 2.40.1-4)

2024-06-03 Thread Ash Joubert
On 2024-06-04 16:09, t...@tommiller.us wrote: last(1) seems to have disappeared following an upgrade from 12.5 to sid. I remember seeing in the NEWS for util-linux that last(1) was moved to the wtmpdb package: $ zcat /usr/share/doc/util-linux/NEWS.Debian.gz util-linux (2.40.1-2) unstable; u

last(1) missing after upgrade from 12.5 to sid (util-linux 2.38.1 to 2.40.1-4)

2024-06-03 Thread tom
Hello! last(1) seems to have disappeared following an upgrade from 12.5 to sid. More info is shown below. What is my mistake? Or, could it be a bug? Please send me copies of replies since I am not subscribed to this list. Thanks for your help! Best! Tom <8> # Prior to upgra

Re: Bookworm and its kernel: any updates coming?

2024-06-03 Thread Timothy M Butterworth
On Mon, Jun 3, 2024 at 8:52 PM wrote: > On 6/3/24 09:40, Tom Browder wrote: > > I keep getting emails concerning the serious kernel vulnerability in > > kernels 5.14 through 6.6. > > > > I have not seen any updates and uname -a shows: 6.1.0-13-amd64 > On 6/3/24 09:40, Tom Browder wrote: > > I kee

Re: Yet ANOTHER ThunderTurd ( Thunderbird ) topic...

2024-06-03 Thread David Wright
On Tue 04 Jun 2024 at 09:30:53 (+0700), Max Nikulin wrote: > On 03/06/2024 23:10, James H. H. Lampert wrote: > > In my experience, T-Bird is the worst email reader I've ever used > > . . . except for *every other* email reader (without a single > > exception) I've tried. I'm particularly irritated

Re: WAS: [ SOLVED] Re: Yet ANOTHER ThunderTurd ( Thunderbird ).. NOW~~The dangers of .mbox mail clients?

2024-06-03 Thread David Wright
On Mon 03 Jun 2024 at 14:08:46 (-0500), Chris M wrote: > I am needing a "refresher course" on mail clients that use the .mbox > format to store emails. > It's been years since I've used this kind of mail client. > > Is there any "dangers" I need to know about? Like, keeping the mailbox > a certain

No image from analog cameras with TW6816 video capture card.

2024-06-03 Thread A. F. Cano
I hope this is the proper forum to post this. The more relevant lists of years ago are no longer active: https://www.linuxtv.org/lists.php I'm trying to get these Lorex SR AIS color cameras, that are supposedly capable of 1024 x 768 max and 728 x 488 NTSC, to work with a bluecherry TW-220-8 bo

Re: Yet ANOTHER ThunderTurd ( Thunderbird ) topic...

2024-06-03 Thread Max Nikulin
On 03/06/2024 23:10, James H. H. Lampert wrote: In my experience, T-Bird is the worst email reader I've ever used . . . except for *every other* email reader (without a single exception) I've tried. I'm particularly irritated with those that have no way to disable HTML rendering, and those that

Re: tree with dir size

2024-06-03 Thread Greg Wooledge
On Mon, Jun 03, 2024 at 07:42:17PM -0500, David Wright wrote: > On Mon 03 Jun 2024 at 18:29:17 (-0400), Greg Wooledge wrote: > > ‘-s’ > > ‘--summarize’ > > Display only a total for each argument. > > > > There's supposed to be a total *FOR EACH ARGUMENT*. There isn't. > > Try adding -l. The

Re: tree with dir size

2024-06-03 Thread David Wright
On Mon 03 Jun 2024 at 18:29:17 (-0400), Greg Wooledge wrote: > On Mon, Jun 03, 2024 at 10:45:28PM +0200, Franco Martelli wrote: > > On 03/06/24 at 16:32, Greg Wooledge wrote: > > > duhs() { > > > ( > > >shopt -s dotglob > > >printf '%s\0' "${1:-.}"/*/ | xargs -0 du -sh > > >

Re: tree with dir size

2024-06-03 Thread David Wright
On Mon 03 Jun 2024 at 15:03:37 (-0400), Greg Wooledge wrote: > On Mon, Jun 03, 2024 at 01:11:57PM -0500, David Wright wrote: > > On Mon 03 Jun 2024 at 10:32:16 (-0400), Greg Wooledge wrote: > > > duhs() ( > > > shopt -s dotglob > > > printf '%s\0' "${1:-.}"/*/ | xargs -0 du -sh > > > ) > >

Re: timeout in shutdown, mutt killed by SIGKILL

2024-06-03 Thread Vincent Lefevre
On 2024-05-31 19:05:45 +0700, Max Nikulin wrote: > Do you see an attempt to send SIGTERM to mutt before timeout and SIGKILL? Unfortunately, there was no information from systemd. Some daemons log a received SIGTERM, but mutt isn't a daemon. > What other processes survived first step? Are there so

Re: [ SOLVED] Re: Yet ANOTHER ThunderTurd ( Thunderbird ) topic... Text Size

2024-06-03 Thread Charles Curley
On Mon, 3 Jun 2024 15:25:12 -0400 e...@gmx.us wrote: > The USAF Thunderbirds predate Gallo Thunderbird by at least a year. > They were founded in 1953, and the law allowing Gallo Thunderbird's > creation wasn't passed until the next year. The wine was certainly > out by 1957. The Ford Thunderbir

Re: tree with dir size

2024-06-03 Thread Greg Wooledge
On Mon, Jun 03, 2024 at 10:45:28PM +0200, Franco Martelli wrote: > On 03/06/24 at 16:32, Greg Wooledge wrote: > > duhs() { > > ( > >shopt -s dotglob > >printf '%s\0' "${1:-.}"/*/ | xargs -0 du -sh > > ) > > } > > I've some issue with this function. It doesn't show the siz

Re: The dangers of .mbox mail clients?

2024-06-03 Thread Chris M
Felix Miata wrote: As I'm up 24/7, I never bother going "offline" in SM. What I meant was, I always click in SM: File > Offline > Work Offline That way SM isn't doing anything in the background while I am compacting folders. OLD bad habit, I know.

Re: [ SOLVED] Re: Yet ANOTHER ThunderTurd ( Thunderbird ) topic... Text Size

2024-06-03 Thread Greg Wooledge
On Tue, Jun 04, 2024 at 03:45:11AM +0800, Bret Busby wrote: > On 4/6/24 03:25, e...@gmx.us wrote: > > On 6/3/24 12:10, James H. H. Lampert wrote: > > > (who still hasn't figured out why Ford named a car, and the Air > > > Force named > > > its demonstration team, after that same cheap wine) > > >

Re: Looking for some pre-buying verification: will an external display actually work with a Lenovo Thinkpad P16 Gen 2?

2024-06-03 Thread Felix Miata
Lists composed on 2024-06-03 22:39 (UTC+0200): > I am thinking of replacing my old workstation with a Lenovo Thinkpad P16 > Gen 2. That's a model line, not a model. It's available with multiple CPU/GPU combinations. To use it as described, I suggest to get one with only one GPU. Most problems

Re: [ SOLVED] Re: Yet ANOTHER ThunderTurd ( Thunderbird ) topic... Text Size

2024-06-03 Thread Bret Busby
On 4/6/24 04:30, e...@gmx.us wrote: On 6/3/24 15:45, Bret Busby wrote: On 4/6/24 03:25, e...@gmx.us wrote: On 6/3/24 12:10, James H. H. Lampert wrote: (who still hasn't figured out why Ford named a car, and the Air Force named its demonstration team, after that same cheap wine) The USAF Thun

Looking for some pre-buying verification: will an external display actually work with a Lenovo Thinkpad P16 Gen 2?

2024-06-03 Thread Lists
Hi all, I am thinking of replacing my old workstation with a Lenovo Thinkpad P16 Gen 2. There's one thing that makes me hesitate though: on my current laptop (Thinkpad P1 Gen 1) the external display is hardwired to a specific port. Sadly, I have never been able to use any external display wit

Re: Response to email clients query regarding mbox

2024-06-03 Thread fxkl47BF
On Tue, 4 Jun 2024, Bret Busby wrote: > On 4/6/24 03:26, Chris M wrote: >> Bret Busby wrote: >>> On 4/6/24 03:08, Chris M wrote: I am needing a "refresher course" on mail clients that use the .mbox format to store emails. It's been years since I've used this kind of mail client. >>>

Re: Response to email clients query regarding mbox

2024-06-03 Thread Bret Busby
On 4/6/24 04:34, Chris M wrote: Bret Busby wrote: alpine is available through synaptic, if you want to try it, Hi Bret, So you use POP 3 too huh, if your archive goes back 20 years? I installed ALPINE and couldn't get it to connect to my server. I just kept getting " INVALID PASSWORD" Eve

Re: Core files on Debian Trixie

2024-06-03 Thread Thomas Pircher
Thomas Pircher wrote: I wanted to ask what the recommended way is nowadays to disable corefiles globally. The latest update for systemd has answered this: | apt-listchanges: News | - | | systemd (256~rc3-3) unstable; urgency=medium | | - coredumps are now disabled by defa

Re: tree with dir size

2024-06-03 Thread Franco Martelli
On 03/06/24 at 16:36, Andy Smith wrote: unbuffer tree --du -Fah /usr/local | grep /$ If that's the only thing you're using unbuffer for, why not just use the -C option of tree? It's a bit like the "--color=always" of ls. Yeah, RTFMB4 I've all the "aliases" with the "unbuffer" command… Cheer

Re: Bookworm and its kernel: any updates coming?

2024-06-03 Thread eben
On 6/3/24 15:06, Greg Wooledge wrote: On Mon, Jun 03, 2024 at 02:18:40PM -0400, e...@gmx.us wrote: eben@cerberus:~$ apt-cache policy linux-image-amd64 linux-image-amd64: Installed: (none) Candidate: 6.1.90-1 What am I doing wrong? You haven't installed the linux-image-amd64 metapackag

Re: tree with dir size

2024-06-03 Thread Franco Martelli
On 03/06/24 at 16:32, Greg Wooledge wrote: duhs() { shopt -s dotglob printf '%s\0' "${1:-.}"/*/ | xargs -0 du -sh shopt -u dotglob } But this assumes that the option was*not* already on when we entered the function. If it was on, we've just turned it off. Another way to do this

Re: [ SOLVED] Re: Yet ANOTHER ThunderTurd ( Thunderbird ) topic... Text Size

2024-06-03 Thread Chris M
debian-u...@howorth.org.uk wrote: Chris M wrote: I love Evolution and Claws to a point. Its a PITA to forward emails with HTML in them, like the Informed Delivery email I get each morning letting us know whats coming in the USPS that day. Claws forwards mails with a text/html part just fine. W

Re: Response to email clients query regarding mbox

2024-06-03 Thread Chris M
Bret Busby wrote: alpine is available through synaptic, if you want to try it, Hi Bret, So you use POP 3 too huh, if your archive goes back 20 years? I installed ALPINE and couldn't get it to connect to my server. I just kept getting " INVALID PASSWORD" Even though I watched a Youtube vide

Re: [ SOLVED] Re: Yet ANOTHER ThunderTurd ( Thunderbird ) topic... Text Size

2024-06-03 Thread eben
On 6/3/24 15:45, Bret Busby wrote: On 4/6/24 03:25, e...@gmx.us wrote: On 6/3/24 12:10, James H. H. Lampert wrote: (who still hasn't figured out why Ford named a car, and the Air Force named its demonstration team, after that same cheap wine) The USAF Thunderbirds predate Gallo Thunderbird by

Re: Response to email clients query regarding mbox

2024-06-03 Thread Bret Busby
On 4/6/24 03:26, Chris M wrote: Hi Bret, I just googled Alpine and, as y'all say in Australia... CRIKEY! i Funnily enough, I do not remember hearing anyone in Australia, say "crikey". Maybe some do, in the eastern states, but, I do not remember hearing the word (if it is a real word) b

Re: [ SOLVED] Re: Yet ANOTHER ThunderTurd ( Thunderbird ) topic... Text Size

2024-06-03 Thread debian-user
Chris M wrote: > I love Evolution and Claws to a point. Its a PITA to forward emails > with HTML in them, like the Informed Delivery email I get each morning > letting us know whats coming in the USPS that day. Claws forwards mails with a text/html part just fine. What's your actual problem with

Re: Response to email clients query regarding mbox

2024-06-03 Thread Bret Busby
On 4/6/24 03:26, Chris M wrote: Bret Busby wrote: On 4/6/24 03:08, Chris M wrote: I am needing a "refresher course" on mail clients that use the .mbox format to store emails. It's been years since I've used this kind of mail client. Is there any "dangers" I need to know about? Like, keeping t

Re: [ SOLVED] Re: Yet ANOTHER ThunderTurd ( Thunderbird ) topic... Text Size

2024-06-03 Thread Bret Busby
On 4/6/24 03:25, e...@gmx.us wrote: On 6/3/24 12:10, James H. H. Lampert wrote: (who still hasn't figured out why Ford named a car, and the Air Force named its demonstration team, after that same cheap wine) The USAF Thunderbirds predate Gallo Thunderbird by at least a year.  They were founde

Re: The dangers of .mbox mail clients?

2024-06-03 Thread Felix Miata
Chris M composed on 2024-06-03 14:08 (UTC-0500): > Is there any "dangers" I need to know about? Like, keeping the mailbox a > certain size? > or a certain amount of emails per folder etc? ... > I always go offline, and then compact my folders after I get done > reading emails. In SM at least, s

Re: Response to email clients query regarding mbox

2024-06-03 Thread Chris M
Bret Busby wrote: On 4/6/24 03:08, Chris M wrote: I am needing a "refresher course" on mail clients that use the .mbox format to store emails. It's been years since I've used this kind of mail client. Is there any "dangers" I need to know about? Like, keeping the mailbox a certain size? or a

Re: [ SOLVED] Re: Yet ANOTHER ThunderTurd ( Thunderbird ) topic... Text Size

2024-06-03 Thread eben
On 6/3/24 12:10, James H. H. Lampert wrote: (who still hasn't figured out why Ford named a car, and the Air Force named its demonstration team, after that same cheap wine) The USAF Thunderbirds predate Gallo Thunderbird by at least a year. They were founded in 1953, and the law allowing Gallo

Response to email clients query regarding mbox

2024-06-03 Thread Bret Busby
On 4/6/24 03:08, Chris M wrote: I am needing a "refresher course" on mail clients that use the .mbox format to store emails. It's been years since I've used this kind of mail client. Is there any "dangers" I need to know about? Like, keeping the mailbox a certain size? or a certain amount of

WAS: [ SOLVED] Re: Yet ANOTHER ThunderTurd ( Thunderbird ).. NOW~~The dangers of .mbox mail clients?

2024-06-03 Thread Chris M
I am needing a "refresher course" on mail clients that use the .mbox format to store emails. It's been years since I've used this kind of mail client. Is there any "dangers" I need to know about? Like, keeping the mailbox a certain size? or a certain amount of emails per folder etc? The last

Re: Bookworm and its kernel: any updates coming?

2024-06-03 Thread Greg Wooledge
On Mon, Jun 03, 2024 at 02:18:40PM -0400, e...@gmx.us wrote: > eben@cerberus:~$ apt-cache policy linux-image-amd64 > linux-image-amd64: > Installed: (none) > Candidate: 6.1.90-1 > What am I doing wrong? You haven't installed the linux-image-amd64 metapackage, which means you will not be offer

Re: [ SOLVED] Re: Yet ANOTHER ThunderTurd ( Thunderbird ) topic... Text Size

2024-06-03 Thread Chris M
James H. H. Lampert wrote: I will say that one should probably not expect perfection from an email reader that's named after a cheap wine. In my experience, T-Bird is the worst email reader I've ever used . . . except for *every other* email reader (without a single exception) I've tried. I'm

Re: tree with dir size

2024-06-03 Thread Greg Wooledge
On Mon, Jun 03, 2024 at 01:11:57PM -0500, David Wright wrote: > On Mon 03 Jun 2024 at 10:32:16 (-0400), Greg Wooledge wrote: > > duhs() ( > > shopt -s dotglob > > printf '%s\0' "${1:-.}"/*/ | xargs -0 du -sh > > ) > > > > I'm not personally fond of this. It's extremely easy to overlook >

Re: [ SOLVED] Re: Yet ANOTHER ThunderTurd ( Thunderbird ) topic... Text Size

2024-06-03 Thread Dan Ritter
Bret Busby wrote: > On 4/6/24 00:10, James H. H. Lampert wrote: > > I will say that one should probably not expect perfection from an email > > reader that's named after a cheap wine. > > > > ? USA-centric reference. See https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Flavored_fortified_wine -dsr-

Re: [ SOLVED] Re: Yet ANOTHER ThunderTurd ( Thunderbird ) topic... Text Size

2024-06-03 Thread Lee
On Mon, Jun 3, 2024 at 2:14 PM Bret Busby wrote: > > On 4/6/24 00:10, James H. H. Lampert wrote: > > I will say that one should probably not expect perfection from an email > > reader that's named after a cheap wine. > > ? Thunderbird wine was extremely inexpensive and 42 proof. In retrospect I'm

Re: tree with dir size

2024-06-03 Thread David Wright
On Mon 03 Jun 2024 at 10:32:16 (-0400), Greg Wooledge wrote: > I'll also throw in one last piece of information because if I don't, > someone else is likely to do it, without a good explanation. > Syntactically, the body of a shell function doesn't have to be enclosed > in curly braces. The body c

Re: Bookworm and its kernel: any updates coming?

2024-06-03 Thread eben
On 6/3/24 09:40, Tom Browder wrote: I keep getting emails concerning the serious kernel vulnerability in kernels 5.14 through 6.6. I have not seen any updates and uname -a shows: 6.1.0-13-amd64 On 6/3/24 09:40, Tom Browder wrote: I keep getting emails concerning the serious kernel vulnerabilit

Re: [ SOLVED] Re: Yet ANOTHER ThunderTurd ( Thunderbird ) topic... Text Size

2024-06-03 Thread Bret Busby
On 4/6/24 00:10, James H. H. Lampert wrote: I will say that one should probably not expect perfection from an email reader that's named after a cheap wine. ? Bret Busby Armadale Western Australia (UTC+0800) .

Re: tree with dir size

2024-06-03 Thread tomas
On Mon, Jun 03, 2024 at 02:36:43PM +, Andy Smith wrote: [...] > If that's the only thing you're using unbuffer for, why not just use > the -C option of tree? It's a bit like the "--color=always" of ls. Oh, and the complementary option for `less', while we're at it, would be -R: tree -C |

Re: Bookworm and its kernel: any updates coming?

2024-06-03 Thread Michael Kjörling
On 3 Jun 2024 11:29 -0500, from tom.brow...@gmail.com (Tom Browder): > Thanks for your concern and help. You're welcome. Glad you got it sorted. -- Michael Kjörling 🔗 https://michael.kjorling.se “Remember when, on the Internet, nobody cared that you were a dog?”

Re: Bookworm and its kernel: any updates coming?

2024-06-03 Thread Tom Browder
On Mon, Jun 3, 2024 at 09:15 Michael Kjörling <2695bd53d...@ewoof.net> wrote: > On 3 Jun 2024 08:40 -0500, from tom.brow...@gmail.com (Tom Browder): > > I keep getting emails concerning the serious kernel vulnerability in > > kernels 5.14 through 6.6. > > > > I have not seen any updates and uname

Re: Bookworm and its kernel: any updates coming?

2024-06-03 Thread Michael Kjörling
On 3 Jun 2024 09:51 -0500, from tom.brow...@gmail.com (Tom Browder): > But another remote host seems to have the same problem. Each host comes > from a different provider and had slightly different default pinnings in > '/etc/apt/sources.list'. > > I'll double-check my pinnings. Try: apt-cache po

Re: [ SOLVED] Re: Yet ANOTHER ThunderTurd ( Thunderbird ) topic... Text Size

2024-06-03 Thread James H. H. Lampert
I will say that one should probably not expect perfection from an email reader that's named after a cheap wine. In my experience, T-Bird is the worst email reader I've ever used . . . except for *every other* email reader (without a single exception) I've tried. I'm particularly irritated with

Re: advanced scripting problems - or wrong approach?

2024-06-03 Thread David Christensen
On 6/2/24 21:35, DdB wrote: Am 02.06.2024 um 02:41 schrieb DdB: Will share my findings, once i made more progress... Here is what i've got before utilizing it: datakanja@PBuster-NFox:/mnt/tmp$ cat test #!/bin/bash -e # testing usefulness of coprocess to control host and backup machine from

Re: alt-~ in xfce

2024-06-03 Thread eben
On 6/3/24 10:34, Dan Ritter wrote: Paul Scott wrote: (Debian sid) Can alt-~ in  XFCE switch windows of the same application? Settings -> Window Manager -> Keyboard Find "Switch window for same application". Tap "Edit" Type alt ~ Try it out. Ah, by default it's ctrl-alt-tab. -- He who

Re: Bookworm and its kernel: any updates coming?

2024-06-03 Thread Tom Browder
On Mon, Jun 3, 2024 at 09:15 Michael Kjörling <2695bd53d...@ewoof.net> wrote: ... > > I have not seen any updates and uname -a shows: 6.1.0-13-amd64 > ... > Something's broken on your end. ... Check your apt pins to ensure that you're not > blocking too much. Thanks, Michael. My system is a

Re: alt-~ in xfce

2024-06-03 Thread Dan Ritter
Paul Scott wrote: > (Debian sid) > > Can alt-~ in  XFCE switch windows of the same application? Settings -> Window Manager -> Keyboard Find "Switch window for same application". Tap "Edit" Type alt ~ Try it out. -dsr-

Re: tree with dir size

2024-06-03 Thread Andy Smith
Hi, On Mon, Jun 03, 2024 at 03:52:54PM +0200, Franco Martelli wrote: > "tree" detects that its std output goes through a pipe and > therefore it disables the escaped code to colorize (like also > "dmesg" does). To avoid this behavior you must use the "unbuffer" > command: > > unbuffer tree --du -

Re: tree with dir size

2024-06-03 Thread Greg Wooledge
On Mon, Jun 03, 2024 at 03:52:54PM +0200, Franco Martelli wrote: > On 31/05/24 at 22:03, Greg Wooledge wrote: > > > It could be improved adding the "-a" switch to show also the hidden > > > directories and the "--color" switch to the "grep" command but this sadly > > > doesn't show the expected res

Re: tree with dir size

2024-06-03 Thread tomas
On Mon, Jun 03, 2024 at 03:52:54PM +0200, Franco Martelli wrote: > > > > > > ~$ tree --du -Fah /tmp/x | grep --color /$ > > You're only coloring the trailing / characters. If you want everything > > from after the last space to the end of the line, you'd want: > > > > tree --du -Fh /usr/loc

Re: Bookworm and its kernel: any updates coming?

2024-06-03 Thread Michael Kjörling
On 3 Jun 2024 08:40 -0500, from tom.brow...@gmail.com (Tom Browder): > I keep getting emails concerning the serious kernel vulnerability in > kernels 5.14 through 6.6. > > I have not seen any updates and uname -a shows: 6.1.0-13-amd64 Something's broken on your end. Bookworm is currently at ABI

Re: tree with dir size

2024-06-03 Thread Franco Martelli
Hi Greg, (sorry for the answer's late but I turn off the PC during the weekend) :( On 31/05/24 at 22:03, Greg Wooledge wrote: It could be improved adding the "-a" switch to show also the hidden directories and the "--color" switch to the "grep" command but this sadly doesn't show the expected re

Bookworm and its kernel: any updates coming?

2024-06-03 Thread Tom Browder
I keep getting emails concerning the serious kernel vulnerability in kernels 5.14 through 6.6. I have not seen any updates and uname -a shows: 6.1.0-13-amd64 Anyone concerned? -Tom

Re: alt-~ in xfce

2024-06-03 Thread eben
On 6/3/24 02:50, Paul Scott wrote: (Debian sid) Can alt-~ in  XFCE switch windows of the same application? alt-tilde in XFCE does nothing, at least in my installation (XFCE 4.18) -- Driscoll's Observation: The product of the IQs of each member of a tech-support conversation is a const

Re: advanced scripting problems - or wrong approach?

2024-06-03 Thread Jonathan Dowland
On Sat Jun 1, 2024 at 8:20 AM BST, DdB wrote: > for years have i been using a self-made backup script, that did mount a > drive via USB, performed all kinds of plausibility checks, before > actually backing up incrementally. Finally verifying success and logging > the activities while kicking the I