Re: Question About Free File Transfering Apps

2024-05-30 Thread Carter Zhang
Dear Richard, But I never use pre-complied packages since by doing this I won't know whether I will install proprietary binaries. Yours, Carter On May 31, 2024 2:38:26 PM GMT+08:00, Richard wrote: >LocalSend and LanXchange are available as precompiled archives. Also, >LocalSend is available as

Re: Anybody Skype users here?

2024-05-30 Thread Jeffrey Walton
On Thu, May 30, 2024 at 10:53 PM George at Clug wrote: > > [...] > > I am guessing you have tried 'Skype for Web' ? How did you find it? If it > does not suite your purposes, I would like to know why, as 'Skype for Web' > might be a solution for myself if it works enough. > > https://support.m

Re: timeout in shutdown, mutt killed by SIGKILL

2024-05-30 Thread Max Nikulin
On 30/05/2024 23:19, Vincent Lefevre wrote: Have you tried to send SIGTERM to mutt? I didn't. AFAIK, systemd sends a SIGTERM to all the processes of the session: that's the Yes, SIGTERM is the default that systemd tries first. There are various kill modes, another signal may be configured f

Re: Question About Free File Transfering Apps

2024-05-30 Thread eben
On 5/30/24 22:46, Carter Zhang wrote: Dear Dan, Thanks a lot for your reply but I am not clear how to use SFTP, SCP or NFS on Android. Could you please show me how? Any help will be appreciated. (lines wrapped) SFTP / SCP: https://ic.pics.livejournal.com/pushpitha/50334853/1538653/1538653_80

Re: Question About Free File Transfering Apps

2024-05-30 Thread Carter Zhang
Dear Richard, Thank you for your reply. LocalSend, LanXchange, LANDrop, NitroShare, Sharik, Warpinator, TrebleShot have their respective problems. LocalSend is not available in Debian's and Trisquel's official repositories, and it is not so convenient to complie it from source using a machine w

Re: Question About Free File Transfering Apps

2024-05-30 Thread Carter Zhang
Dear Dan, Sorry I forgot an CC. Thanks a lot for your reply but I am not clear how to use SFTP, SCP or NFS on Android. Could you please show me how? Any help will be appreciated. On May 29, 2024 11:37:55 PM GMT+08:00, Dan Ritter wrote: >Carter Zhang wrote: >> Dear Dan, >> >> Thanks a lot fo

Re: Anybody Skype users here?

2024-05-30 Thread David Wright
On Fri 31 May 2024 at 08:48:33 (+0800), Bret Busby wrote: > On 31/5/24 08:04, David Wright wrote: > > On Fri 31 May 2024 at 07:57:22 (+0800), Bret Busby wrote: > > > On 31/5/24 07:49, Keith Bainbridge wrote: > > > > wget https://repo.skype.com/latest/skypeforlinux-64.deb > > > > > > > > > > Tryin

Re: tree with dir size

2024-05-30 Thread Felix Miata
Northwind composed on 2024-05-31 06:28 (UTC+0800): > is there a command that shows dir/subdir structure like `tree`, but for > each dir has the size in results as well? Is ncdu any use to your need? -- Evolution as taught in public schools is, like religion, based on faith, not based on

Re: Anybody Skype users here?

2024-05-30 Thread Bret Busby
On 31/5/24 08:04, David Wright wrote: On Fri 31 May 2024 at 07:57:22 (+0800), Bret Busby wrote: On 31/5/24 07:49, Keith Bainbridge wrote: wget https://repo.skype.com/latest/skypeforlinux-64.deb Trying to access that URL with SeaMonkey, to view the directory listing (to find version numbers),

Re: Question About Free File Transfering Apps

2024-05-30 Thread eben
On 5/30/24 20:08, mick.crane wrote: On 2024-05-29 15:07, Carter Zhang wrote: Are there any free apps for GNU/Linux and Android to share files over LAN? There have already been LocalSend, LanXchange, LANDrop, NitroShare, Sharik, Warpinator, TrebleShot, but they have respective problems.  I don

Re: tree with dir size

2024-05-30 Thread Greg Wooledge
On Thu, May 30, 2024 at 08:04:26PM -0400, e...@gmx.us wrote: > > > It looks like "tree --du" should do it, but "tree -d --du -h" says > > > ├── [452K] Documents > I think "du -h -S -s Documents/" gives just the files in Documents, and not > its subdirectories, and it gives 269M. "ls -ldh Document

Re: Anybody Skype users here?

2024-05-30 Thread Bret Busby
On 31/5/24 07:33, Dan Ritter wrote: Does it work through a browser? Zoom works through a browser. Google Meet works through a browser. MS Teams works through a browser. And Jitsi works through a browser. -dsr- Using each of those, apparently, comes with its own varying degree of risk. Zo

Re: Question About Free File Transfering Apps

2024-05-30 Thread mick.crane
On 2024-05-29 15:07, Carter Zhang wrote: Are there any free apps for GNU/Linux and Android to share files over LAN? There have already been LocalSend, LanXchange, LANDrop, NitroShare, Sharik, Warpinator, TrebleShot, but they have respective problems. I don't know if sshfs would have issues wit

Re: Anybody Skype users here?

2024-05-30 Thread David Wright
On Fri 31 May 2024 at 07:57:22 (+0800), Bret Busby wrote: > On 31/5/24 07:49, Keith Bainbridge wrote: > > wget https://repo.skype.com/latest/skypeforlinux-64.deb > > > > Trying to access that URL with SeaMonkey, to view the directory > listing (to find version numbers), returned the following; >

Re: tree with dir size

2024-05-30 Thread eben
On 5/30/24 18:54, Greg Wooledge wrote: On Thu, May 30, 2024 at 06:51:30PM -0400, e...@gmx.us wrote: It looks like "tree --du" should do it, but "tree -d --du -h" says ├── [452K] Documents when du says it's 787M. Well, that sounds like one of the numbers includes subdirectories and the other

Re: Anybody Skype users here?

2024-05-30 Thread fjd
On Fri, 31 May 2024, Bret Busby wrote: What version of skype do you have installed? I have skypeforlinux 8.109.0.209 installed on a Linux Mint system. But, I have not used skype, now, for about 11 years. Regarding snap, with your reference to Ubuntu Linux, the imposition of snap was one of t

Re: Anybody Skype users here?

2024-05-30 Thread Xiyue Deng
Hi Juan, "Juan R.D. Silva" writes: > Hi folks, > > I use Skype installed from Debian official repo. A couple of days ago > it refused to update reporting "server timed out". After looking into > it, I found that MS removed Skype.deb package from their server and > basically forces everyone to u

Re: Anybody Skype users here?

2024-05-30 Thread Bret Busby
On 31/5/24 07:49, Keith Bainbridge wrote: Good morning Juan Three sites suggest: wget https://repo.skype.com/latest/skypeforlinux-64.deb Trying to access that URL with SeaMonkey, to view the directory listing (to find version numbers), returned the following; " An error occurred

Re: Anybody Skype users here?

2024-05-30 Thread Bret Busby
On 31/5/24 06:58, Juan R.D. Silva wrote: Hi folks, I use Skype installed from Debian official repo.  A couple of days ago it refused to update reporting "server timed out". After looking into it, I found that MS removed Skype.deb package from their server and basically forces everyone to use

Re: Anybody Skype users here?

2024-05-30 Thread Dan Ritter
Juan R.D. Silva wrote: > I use Skype installed from Debian official repo. A couple of days ago it > refused to update reporting "server timed out". After looking into it, I > found that MS removed Skype.deb package from their server and basically > forces everyone to use Snap package instead. I'

Re: Anybody Skype users here?

2024-05-30 Thread Keith Bainbridge
On 31/05/2024 9:29 am, Juan R.D. Silva wrote: Hey Timothy, have you really read my post? 1. I wrote it clearly "I still need Skype". (And yes, I have my reasons for it, even if it surprises you.) 2. And how have you arrived to "Ubuntu" subject? I'm Debian user. Again read to post you replied

Re: Anybody Skype users here?

2024-05-30 Thread George at Clug
Juan, Apologies I do not have an answer for you. It would seem you love Snaps about as much as I do. I watch videos on YouTube of people complaining about APT, or Synaptic, but I disagree with them, I really like those programs and the Debian packaging system. They are very reliable, just like

Re: Anybody Skype users here?

2024-05-30 Thread Juan R.D. Silva
Hey Timothy, have you really read my post? 1. I wrote it clearly "I still need Skype". (And yes, I have my reasons for it, even if it surprises you.) 2. And how have you arrived to "Ubuntu" subject? I'm Debian user. Again read to post you replied to. 3. I really don't care what you personally u

Re: "Repeaters", etc.

2024-05-30 Thread David Christensen
On 5/30/24 03:14, Roger Price wrote: On Wed, 29 May 2024, David Christensen wrote: On 5/29/24 03:36, Roger Price wrote: On Tue, 28 May 2024, David Christensen wrote: On 5/28/24 00:28, Roger Price wrote: I wired my place Cat5. A lot of work, and I regretted it.  I live in the hills behind Nice

Re: tree with dir size

2024-05-30 Thread Greg Wooledge
On Fri, May 31, 2024 at 06:57:27AM +0800, Northwind wrote: > both the size of current path and subdir should be expected. According to the man page, that's what it does. I just installed tree and tried it. There's a subtle behavior that I did not expect: hobbit:/usr/local$ tree -d --du -h [3.9M

Re: Anybody Skype users here?

2024-05-30 Thread Timothy M Butterworth
On Thu, May 30, 2024 at 6:59 PM Juan R.D. Silva wrote: > Hi folks, > > I use Skype installed from Debian official repo. A couple of days ago > it refused to update reporting "server timed out". After looking into > it, I found that MS removed Skype.deb package from their server and > basically f

Anybody Skype users here?

2024-05-30 Thread Juan R.D. Silva
Hi folks, I use Skype installed from Debian official repo. A couple of days ago it refused to update reporting "server timed out". After looking into it, I found that MS removed Skype.deb package from their server and basically forces everyone to use Snap package instead. Skype is the only

Re: tree with dir size

2024-05-30 Thread Northwind
both the size of current path and subdir should be expected. thanks. The question is: which one do you want?

Re: tree with dir size

2024-05-30 Thread Greg Wooledge
On Thu, May 30, 2024 at 06:51:30PM -0400, e...@gmx.us wrote: > It looks like "tree --du" should do it, but "tree -d --du -h" says > > ├── [452K] Documents > > when du says it's 787M. Well, that sounds like one of the numbers includes subdirectories and the other only includes files in the immed

Re: tree with dir size

2024-05-30 Thread eben
On 5/30/24 18:28, Northwind wrote: Hello, is there a command that shows dir/subdir structure like `tree`, but for each dir has the size in results as well? It looks like "tree --du" should do it, but "tree -d --du -h" says ├── [452K] Documents when du says it's 787M. -- When we've nuked th

tree with dir size

2024-05-30 Thread Northwind
Hello, is there a command that shows dir/subdir structure like `tree`, but for each dir has the size in results as well? Thanks.

Re: After upgrade, what do you do about "removed" and "obsolete" packages ?

2024-05-30 Thread Thomas Schmitt
Hi, i wrote: > > What kind of programming language can have inspired the developers > > to define such a syntax ? Max Nikulin: > https://blog.jak-linux.org/2019/08/15/apt-patterns/ This points to aptitude. The package description of aptitude says "mutt-like syntax for matching packages". Indeed

Re: After upgrade, what do you do about "removed" and "obsolete" packages ?

2024-05-30 Thread David Wright
On Wed 29 May 2024 at 18:20:25 (+0200), Thomas Schmitt wrote: > i wonder why none of the electricians on this list has an anecdote to > share about dealing with "obsolete" packages after upgrade. > No triumphs, defeats, or global catastrophes ? Nowadays I install new releases from scratch, helped

Re: After upgrade, what do you do about "removed" and "obsolete" packages ?

2024-05-30 Thread Max Nikulin
On 30/05/2024 16:22, Thomas Schmitt wrote: Max Nikulin wrote: apt-patterns(7) Wow. What kind of programming language can have inspired the developers to define such a syntax ? https://blog.jak-linux.org/2019/08/15/apt-patterns/ "apt list" has some limitations in comparison to "aptitude sear

Re: timeout in shutdown, mutt killed by SIGKILL

2024-05-30 Thread Vincent Lefevre
On 2024-05-30 00:19:30 +0700, Max Nikulin wrote: > On 29/05/2024 07:44, Vincent Lefevre wrote: > > But I don't understand why there was a timeout. Does this mean that > > mutt didn't react to SIGTERM? Any reason? > > Have you tried to send SIGTERM to mutt? I didn't. AFAIK, systemd sends a SIGTERM

Re: timeout in shutdown, mutt killed by SIGKILL

2024-05-30 Thread Vincent Lefevre
On 2024-05-29 16:13:05 -, Curt wrote: > On 2024-05-29, Vincent Lefevre wrote: > > During the latest shutdown: > > > > May 29 01:55:05 qaa systemd[1]: Stopping session-2.scope - Session 2 of > > User vinc17... > > [...] > > May 29 01:55:26 qaa systemd[1]: session-2.scope: Stopping timed out.

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Re: Question About Free File Transfering Apps

2024-05-30 Thread Richard
A client that by your own words barely works, while fully functional alternatives have been available for many years already. So what's your point? Am Do., 30. Mai 2024 um 14:23 Uhr schrieb Anssi Saari < anssi.sa...@debian-user.mail.kapsi.fi>: > > Wow. I already mentioned an open source client? W

Re: Question About Free File Transfering Apps

2024-05-30 Thread Anssi Saari
Richard writes: > There have already been many answers. And since it's highly unlikely any > third party will include support for such a > closed down system, you might want to look at them. At least I don't think > Google will suddenly open source Nearby Share > for everyone to write clients f

Re: After upgrade, what do you do about "removed" and "obsolete" packages ?

2024-05-30 Thread Florent Rougon
Le 30/05/2024, "Thomas Schmitt" a écrit: > So "local" would be just another word for "obsolete" ? My understanding is that “obsolete” and “local” may mean different things to the person who installed the packages (“obsolete” would correspond to the first item of the list at the end of my previou

Re: "Repeaters", etc.

2024-05-30 Thread gene heskett
On 5/30/24 06:30, Roger Price wrote: On Wed, 29 May 2024, David Christensen wrote: On 5/29/24 03:36, Roger Price wrote: On Tue, 28 May 2024, David Christensen wrote: On 5/28/24 00:28, Roger Price wrote: I wired my place Cat5. A lot of work, and I regretted it.  I live in the hills behind Nic

Re: After upgrade, what do you do about "removed" and "obsolete" packages ?

2024-05-30 Thread Thomas Schmitt
Hi, i wrote: > > Next documenation riddle is what the word "local" means in output lines > > like > > linux-image-5.10.0-rc2-ts/now 5.10.0-rc2-ts-37 amd64 [installed,local] Florent Rougon wrote: > I don't use this but guess it is as in aptitude, where “obsolete/local > packages” are packages th

Core files on Debian Trixie

2024-05-30 Thread Thomas Pircher
Hi, I have noticed that started getting core files on Debian testing recently. I'm running a fairly standard installation with my own kernel build. I'm fine with this as default setting, but my knowledge in this area is probably outdated, so I wanted to ask what the recommended way is nowadays t

Re: "Repeaters", etc.

2024-05-30 Thread Roger Price
On Wed, 29 May 2024, David Christensen wrote: On 5/29/24 03:36, Roger Price wrote: On Tue, 28 May 2024, David Christensen wrote: On 5/28/24 00:28, Roger Price wrote: I wired my place Cat5. A lot of work, and I regretted it.  I live in the hills behind Nice, an area with a lot of lightning.  T

Re: After upgrade, what do you do about "removed" and "obsolete" packages ?

2024-05-30 Thread Florent Rougon
Hi Thomas, Le 30/05/2024, "Thomas Schmitt" a écrit: > Next documenation riddle is what the word "local" means in output lines > like > > linux-image-5.10.0-rc2-ts/now 5.10.0-rc2-ts-37 amd64 [installed,local] I don't use this but guess it is as in aptitude, where “obsolete/local packages” are

Re: After upgrade, what do you do about "removed" and "obsolete" packages ?

2024-05-30 Thread Thomas Schmitt
Hi, i wrote: > > But i am not sure whether the commercial package which i have to keep > > will be preserved with "apt autoremove". > > Is there a way to do a dry run which only tells what would happen if i > > were more courageous ? Mike Kupfer wrote: > When I use "apt autoremove", I am given a

Re: Question About Free File Transfering Apps

2024-05-30 Thread Richard
There have already been many answers. And since it's highly unlikely any third party will include support for such a closed down system, you might want to look at them. At least I don't think Google will suddenly open source Nearby Share for everyone to write clients for it. Am Do., 30. Mai 2024 u

Re: Question About Free File Transfering Apps

2024-05-30 Thread Anssi Saari
Carter Zhang writes: > Are there any free apps for GNU/Linux and Android to share files over LAN? > There have already been LocalSend, LanXchange, > LANDrop, NitroShare, Sharik, Warpinator, TrebleShot, but they have respective > problems. I'd like to know too, assuming you're asking for trans