Re: Current best practices for system configuration management?

2024-04-18 Thread Alexandre Rossi
Hi, > > and so on, it is time to explore solutions. I only have four systems > > at the moment (two physical and two virtual), so I don't think I need > > something too fancy. I am in the same situation with an extra constraint: some are laptops and not always connected. > > My first thought wa

Re: Current best practices for system configuration management?

2024-04-18 Thread Dan Ritter
Mike Castle wrote: > and so on, it is time to explore solutions. I only have four systems > at the moment (two physical and two virtual), so I don't think I need > something too fancy. > > My first thought was to simply add a `Files:` section to *.control > files I use for my metapackages. Afte

Current best practices for system configuration management?

2024-04-18 Thread Mike Castle
For a while now, I've been using `equivs-build` for maintaining a hierarchy of metapackages to control what is installed on my various machines. Generally, I can do `apt install mrc-$(hostname -s)` and I'm golden. Now, I would like to expand that into also setting up various config files that I c

minor change to apt-mirror

2024-04-18 Thread fxkl47BF
two possible changes to apt-mirror if bash is available make that the default shell restrict the program so that it is only run as the apt-mirror user i forgot and ran it as root once and had to chown everything

Re: Fwd: Debian 11 Xfce panel Network Manager applet has disappeared

2024-04-18 Thread David Christensen
On 4/18/24 09:46, Gareth Evans wrote: On Thu 18/04/2024 at 11:05, David Christensen wrote: Move aside the ~/.config/xfce4 directory: ... Restart -- screen with wallpaper alone. ... Hi David, Starting from Mate DE only and some old (bookworm) XFCE config files, if I: $ sudo apt install task

Re: Fwd: Debian 11 Xfce panel Network Manager applet has disappeared

2024-04-18 Thread David Christensen
On 4/18/24 07:28, Max Nikulin wrote: On 18/04/2024 17:05, David Christensen wrote: $ mv .config/xfce4-20240418-180045/ .config/xfce4 Restart -- back to Xfce panel with no Network Manager. Try to create a new system user and log in. Is nm-applet present? Logging in using another previously

Re: Fwd: Debian 11 Xfce panel Network Manager applet has disappeared

2024-04-18 Thread David Christensen
On 4/18/24 05:34, e...@gmx.us wrote: On 4/18/24 05:27, David Christensen wrote: On 4/17/24 12:37, Richmond wrote: What are the permissions on the nm-applet binary? maybe it doesn't have permission to execute, or the process which starts it doesn't have permission. 2024-04-18 02:24:20 root@la

Re: Marking as spam

2024-04-18 Thread The Wanderer
On 2024-04-18 at 11:53, Eduardo M KALINOWSKI wrote: > On 18/04/2024 12:43, Hans wrote: > >> But the "Sorry" mail I did send without the spam tag. However, I >> get it WITH the spamtag, as all mails get the DCIM=false tag in the >> header (created by the debian servers) and megamailservers.eu add

Re: Fwd: Debian 11 Xfce panel Network Manager applet has disappeared

2024-04-18 Thread Gareth Evans
On Thu 18/04/2024 at 11:05, David Christensen wrote: > Move aside the ~/.config/xfce4 directory: > ... > Restart -- screen with wallpaper alone. > ... Hi David, Starting from Mate DE only and some old (bookworm) XFCE config files, if I: $ sudo apt install task-xfce-desktop then log out and in

Re: Marking as spam

2024-04-18 Thread Eduardo M KALINOWSKI
On 18/04/2024 12:43, Hans wrote: But the "Sorry" mail I did send without the spam tag. However, I get it WITH the spamtag, as all mails get the DCIM=false tag in the header (created by the debian servers) and megamailservers.eu add the SPAM tag. Or you could use a less shitty mail servi

Vlan and DHCP

2024-04-18 Thread basti
Hello, maybe a bit off topic. The goal is to have a central DHCP/DNS server for multiple IP ranges in the same network. - LAN has 192.168.30.0/24 - guest should have 10.10.10.0/24 At the moment LAN and guest has different interfaces but i have to change this. A new wifi repeater / AP is n

Re: *****SPAM***** Marking as spam

2024-04-18 Thread Hans
Am Donnerstag, 18. April 2024, 17:21:41 CEST schrieb rtnetz...@windstream.net: To make clear: The first time I replied, I forgot to remove the spam tag. But the "Sorry" mail I did send without the spam tag. However, I get it WITH the spamtag, as all mails get the DCIM=false tag in the header (cre

Re: Sorry

2024-04-18 Thread The Wanderer
On 2024-04-18 at 11:15, Hans wrote: > Sorry, the spam tag appears because of DCIM in the header. > > Not my fault. But it did not appear on *this* message from you to the list. Is there a reason you couldn't edit the Subject: lines of the replies you're sending, before you send them, to remove

Re: *****SPAM***** Marking as spam [was: *****SPAM***** Re: LibreOffice removed from Debian]

2024-04-18 Thread Nicolas George
rtnetz...@windstream.net (12024-04-18): > As I understand what he wrote, the SPAM tag is added after the message leaves > his control. I very much doubt it, we would see “*SPAM* Re:” rather than “Re: *SPAM*”. And his recent “Sorry” mail was not tagged. https://lists.debian.org/d

Re: *****SPAM***** Marking as spam [was: *****SPAM***** Re: LibreOffice removed from Debian]

2024-04-18 Thread rtnetz...@windstream.net
As I understand what he wrote, the SPAM tag is added after the message leaves his control. - Original Message - From: "Nicolas George" To: "debian-user" Sent: Thursday, April 18, 2024 11:13:44 AM Subject: Re: *SPAM* Marking as spam [was: *SPAM* Re: LibreOffice removed f

Sorry

2024-04-18 Thread Hans
Am Donnerstag, 18. April 2024, 17:08:53 CEST schrieb Hans: Sorry, the spam tag appears because of DCIM in the header. Not my fault. Best Hans > Am Donnerstag, 18. April 2024, 11:53:38 CEST schrieb to...@tuxteam.de: > Hi Tomas, > > this is by debian servers, I talked about this for a while. Beca

Re: *****SPAM***** Marking as spam [was: *****SPAM***** Re: LibreOffice removed from Debian]

2024-04-18 Thread Nicolas George
Hans (12024-04-18): > As I can not fix it You can manually remove “*SPAM*” from the mail when you reply. You could even automate it on your end. -- Nicolas George

Re: *****SPAM***** Marking as spam [was: *****SPAM***** Re: LibreOffice removed from Debian]

2024-04-18 Thread Hans
Am Donnerstag, 18. April 2024, 11:53:38 CEST schrieb to...@tuxteam.de: Hi Tomas, this is by debian servers, I talked about this for a while. Because the debian servers mark some things in the header, megamailservers.eu mark them as spam and add SPAM to the headline. As I can not fix it

Re: Fwd: Debian 11 Xfce panel Network Manager applet has disappeared

2024-04-18 Thread Max Nikulin
On 18/04/2024 17:05, David Christensen wrote: $ mv .config/xfce4-20240418-180045/ .config/xfce4 Restart -- back to Xfce panel with no Network Manager. Try to create a new system user and log in. Is nm-applet present?

Re: tbird troubles

2024-04-18 Thread Curt
On 2024-04-18, wrote: > > > Actually I'm thankful for having got the chance to learn a couple of > languages. It has been a lot of fun. And also to you folks who put up > with my mediocre English. > I'm thankful to have learned enough French to have read the Proust book (la Recherche...). It'

Re: No $DISPLAY variable set over ssh

2024-04-18 Thread Franco Martelli
Hi Allan, On 18/04/24 at 12:38, allan wrote: Have four Sid machines here and ssh -X has worked fine on all of them for years. For the last several days I haven't been able to run graphical applications over ssh from any of these machines. Error says "cannot open display" and if I ssh into the m

Re: On user expectations (Was Re: *****SPAM***** Re: LibreOffice removed from Debian)

2024-04-18 Thread Brad Rogers
On Thu, 18 Apr 2024 11:35:58 + Andy Smith wrote: Hello Andy, >I suspect that your text above has come out sounding more entitled >than you intended, as English is not your first language. In fairness to Hans, he did go on to explain as much. -- Regards _ "Valid sig separator is {d

Re: Fwd: Debian 11 Xfce panel Network Manager applet has disappeared

2024-04-18 Thread eben
On 4/18/24 05:27, David Christensen wrote: On 4/17/24 12:37, Richmond wrote: David Christensen writes: What are the permissions on the nm-applet binary? maybe it doesn't have permission to execute, or the process which starts it doesn't have permission. 2024-04-18 02:24:20 root@laalaa ~ #

Re: No $DISPLAY variable set over ssh

2024-04-18 Thread allan
Bug report submitted. https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=1069236 On Thu, Apr 18, 2024 at 6:18 AM allan wrote: > > I just fixed it. in /etc/ssh/sshd_config I changed > > #AddressFamily any > > to > > AddressFamily inet > > Reading the host's journal got me pointed in the right dir

On user expectations (Was Re: *****SPAM***** Re: LibreOffice removed from Debian)

2024-04-18 Thread Andy Smith
Hi Hans, On Thu, Apr 18, 2024 at 11:38:18AM +0200, Hans wrote: > I only hope, it will not happen the same fate like usermin and webmin > happened > to: It was once removed from the repoi with th ereason "spagehetti code, bad > code" and then no one ever took a look again to it, although many, m

Re: No $DISPLAY variable set over ssh

2024-04-18 Thread allan
I just fixed it. in /etc/ssh/sshd_config I changed #AddressFamily any to AddressFamily inet Reading the host's journal got me pointed in the right direction. Thank you for the suggestion :) On Thu, Apr 18, 2024 at 6:10 AM allan wrote: > > > In the context of these SSH sessions, are those cl

Re: LibreOffice removed from Debian

2024-04-18 Thread Brad Rogers
On Thu, 18 Apr 2024 11:38:18 +0200 Hans wrote: Hello Hans, >I only hope, it will not happen the same fate like usermin and webmin >happened to: It was once removed from the repoi with th ereason >"spagehetti code, bad code" and then no one ever took a look again to Which, no doubt, makes it har

Re: No $DISPLAY variable set over ssh

2024-04-18 Thread allan
> In the context of these SSH sessions, are those clients or servers? Both. I've run all four machines as both host and guest when testing. > Do the logs on the host ip.add.re.ss provide any further details? journalctl -t sshd gives this - Apr 18 05:29:03 server sshd[2052]: error: Failed to al

Re: No $DISPLAY variable set over ssh

2024-04-18 Thread Michael Kjörling
On 18 Apr 2024 05:38 -0500, from wizard10...@gmail.com (allan): > Have four Sid machines here In the context of these SSH sessions, are those clients or servers? > ssh -vv -Y u...@ip.add.re.ss just gives "X11 forwarding request failed > on channel 0" Do the logs on the host ip.add.re.ss provide

Re: LibreOffice removed from Debian

2024-04-18 Thread Michael Kjörling
On 18 Apr 2024 11:38 +0200, from hans.ullr...@loop.de (Hans): > And for libreoffice I suppose, it is planned, to change from 7.6 to 24.4, > which will be a major jump. LibreOffice recently changed the version numbering scheme from X.Y (relatively arbitrary numbering) to YY.M (release year and mon

No $DISPLAY variable set over ssh

2024-04-18 Thread allan
Have four Sid machines here and ssh -X has worked fine on all of them for years. For the last several days I haven't been able to run graphical applications over ssh from any of these machines. Error says "cannot open display" and if I ssh into the machine $DISPLAY is indeed blank but from a local

Re: Debian 11 Xfce panel Network Manager applet has disappeared

2024-04-18 Thread David Christensen
On 4/17/24 12:07, Charles Curley wrote: On Wed, 17 Apr 2024 11:41:24 -0700 David Christensen wrote: My WAG is that nm-applet is failing to start, but I have been unable to find if and where any error message is reported. My instance of nm-applet does run, and I see this as part of the boot p

Re: Fwd: Debian 11 Xfce panel Network Manager applet has disappeared

2024-04-18 Thread David Christensen
096 Apr 18 00:45 .config/xfce4/ 2024-04-18 02:50:23 dpchrist@laalaa ~ $ mv .config/xfce4/ .config/xfce4-20240418-180045 Restart -- screen with wallpaper alone. Right-click on desktop -> Applications -> Settings -> Panel brings up the Panel Preferences application. The Items ta

Marking as spam [was: *****SPAM***** Re: LibreOffice removed from Debian]

2024-04-18 Thread tomas
Hi, Hans is it your mail setup adding that *SPAM* decoration to the subject? Just curious... cheers -- t signature.asc Description: PGP signature

Re: *****SPAM***** Re: LibreOffice removed from Debian

2024-04-18 Thread Hans
I only hope, it will not happen the same fate like usermin and webmin happened to: It was once removed from the repoi with th ereason "spagehetti code, bad code" and then no one ever took a look again to it, although many, many years of coding passed by. And webmin and usermin are still develo

Re: Fwd: Debian 11 Xfce panel Network Manager applet has disappeared

2024-04-18 Thread David Christensen
On 4/17/24 13:56, e...@gmx.us wrote: On 4/17/24 15:37, Richmond wrote: David Christensen writes: My WAG is that nm-applet is failing to start, but I have been unable to find if and where any error message is reported. What are the permissions on the nm-applet binary? And is its filesystem m

Re: Fwd: Debian 11 Xfce panel Network Manager applet has disappeared

2024-04-18 Thread David Christensen
On 4/17/24 12:37, Richmond wrote: David Christensen writes: On Sun 14/04/2024 at 13:29, David Christensen wrote: ... I have used the Xfce panel Network Manager applet for many years. Tonight, I noticed that it has disappeared (!). ... What are the permissions on the nm-applet binary? maybe it

Re: LibreOffice removed from Debian

2024-04-18 Thread Brad Rogers
On Thu, 18 Apr 2024 09:55:26 +0200 Erwan David wrote: Hello Erwan, >What scares me is seeing part of 18 ongoing transition, and 4 "coming >soon transitions" with "please do not upload if it is not related to >the transition". Several (well, lots of) transitions have landed at pretty the same t

Re: LibreOffice removed from Debian

2024-04-18 Thread Michael Kjörling
On 18 Apr 2024 09:55 +0200, from er...@rail.eu.org (Erwan David): >> https://tracker.debian.org/pkg/libreoffice > > What scares me is seeing part of 18 ongoing transition, and 4 "coming soon > transitions" with "please do not upload if it is not related to the > transition". Why does that scare y

Re: LibreOffice removed from Debian

2024-04-18 Thread Marco Moock
Am 18.04.2024 schrieb Erwan David : > What scares me is seeing part of 18 ongoing transition, and 4 "coming > soon transitions" with "please do not upload if it is not related to > the transition". That is Debian unstable. There will be changes that break things and it is intended to find and fi

Re: LibreOffice removed from Debian

2024-04-18 Thread Erwan David
Le 17/04/2024 à 15:26, Brad Rogers a écrit : On Wed, 17 Apr 2024 15:12:39 +0200 Vincent Lefevre wrote: Hello Vincent, Is there any reason why LibreOffice has been removed from Debian??? https://tracker.debian.org/pkg/libreoffice Has all the info you need, and more. Expect it to be removed