Re: removed foreign architecture -- again

2024-04-15 Thread fxkl47BF
just a comment about this procedure i shopped around the interweb before jumping in to this apt purge `dpkg --get-selections |grep :i386 |awk '{print $1}'` dpkg --remove-architecture i386 this what i settled on but apt wanted to remove a passel of non-i386 packages that i really liked and install

Re: Debian 12.5 up-to-date Xfce, Firefox clings to USB stick

2024-04-15 Thread David Wright
On Mon 15 Apr 2024 at 18:52:33 (-), Curt wrote: > On 2024-04-15, David Wright wrote: > > On Sun 14 Apr 2024 at 14:24:29 (-), Curt wrote: > >> On 2024-04-04, Max Nikulin wrote: > >> > > >> > If you do not trust Gmail as a web application, use a mail application > >> > that supports IMAP.

Re: e1000e driver Network Card Detected Hardware Unit Hang

2024-04-15 Thread Sirius
In days of yore (Tue, 16 Apr 2024), Sirius thus quoth: > In days of yore (Mon, 15 Apr 2024), Jamie thus quoth: > > So  there is a very nasty bug in the e1000e network card > > driver. Doing some reading turned up a Proxmox thread about the issues with these Intel NICs. https://forum.proxmox.com

Re: e1000e driver Network Card Detected Hardware Unit Hang

2024-04-15 Thread Sirius
In days of yore (Mon, 15 Apr 2024), Jamie thus quoth: > So  there is a very nasty bug in the e1000e network card > driver. https://www.intel.com/content/www/us/en/support/articles/05480/ethernet-products.html notes that MSI interrupts may be problematic on some systems. Worth digging into whe

Re: Debian 12.5 up-to-date Xfce, Firefox clings to USB stick

2024-04-15 Thread Max Nikulin
On 16/04/2024 01:52, Curt wrote: On 2024-04-15, David Wright wrote: On Sun 14 Apr 2024 at 14:24:29 (-), Curt wrote: On 2024-04-04, Max Nikulin wrote: If you do not trust Gmail as a web application, use a mail application that supports IMAP. Gmail supports IMAP since more or less forever

Re: Debian 12.5 up-to-date Xfce, Firefox clings to USB stick

2024-04-15 Thread John Crawley
On 16/04/2024 03:52, Curt wrote: On 2024-04-15, David Wright wrote: On Sun 14 Apr 2024 at 14:24:29 (-), Curt wrote: On 2024-04-04, Max Nikulin wrote: If you do not trust Gmail as a web application, use a mail application that supports IMAP. Gmail supports IMAP since more or less fore

Re: Help to report a bug related to a usb3 lan adapter driver

2024-04-15 Thread Charles Curley
On Mon, 15 Apr 2024 20:57:00 +0200 user7415 same wrote: > I had a discussion in stack exchange related to the problem that is > well explained here: > https://unix.stackexchange.com/questions/774594/debian-12-all-of-sudden-my-usb3-lan-adapter-get-assigned-random-mac-address-ea > > For what I und

Re: removed foreign architecture

2024-04-15 Thread fxkl47BF
On Mon, 15 Apr 2024, Felix Miata wrote: > fxkl47BF composed on 2024-04-15 18:23 (UTC): > >> i run bullseye amd64 >> i had i386 as a foreign architecture and removed it with no problems >> i noticed the message >> warning: while removing libsane1:i386, directory >> '/usr/lib/i386-linux-gnu/sane' n

e1000e driver Network Card Detected Hardware Unit Hang

2024-04-15 Thread Jamie
So  there is a very nasty bug in the e1000e network card driver. I am running Debian 12 Bookworm. You will get the message "Detected Hardware Unit Hang" and then the network card just stops working. This is a built in NIC  on the computer The computer is a is a HP Prodesk 600 G4 MT This is the

Re: Debian 11 Xfce panel Network Manager applet has disappeared

2024-04-15 Thread David Christensen
On 4/15/24 09:21, Gareth Evans wrote: On Sun 14/04/2024 at 13:29, David Christensen wrote: ... I have used the Xfce panel Network Manager applet for many years. Tonight, I noticed that it has disappeared (!). ... Hi David, I can't speak for XFCE, but certainly for Mate there was a time when mu

Re: removed foreign architecture

2024-04-15 Thread Stefan Monnier
> In any case, I wouldn't recommend using precompiled code from > a for-profit company: if they don't distribute the source code, it > clearly means they're not proud of their code and have something > to hide. And of course, the same applies for a non-for-profit company, tho somehow it seems that

Re: removed foreign architecture

2024-04-15 Thread Stefan Monnier
>> ...printer manufacturer(s) only provided Linux drivers for 32bit. >> The one I'm using that does or did so is Brother. I haven't checked >> lately to see if it has changed its policy. > I just got a Brother printer two days ago and everything they provide > is 32-bit. In any case, I wouldn't re

Re: removed foreign architecture

2024-04-15 Thread rtnetz...@windstream.net
- Original Message - From: "Felix Miata" > ...printer manufacturer(s) only provided Linux > drivers for 32bit. The one I'm using that does or did so is Brother. I haven't > checked lately to see if it has changed its policy. I just got a Brother printer two days ago and everything they p

Re: tbird troubles

2024-04-15 Thread gene heskett
On 4/15/24 15:26, to...@tuxteam.de wrote: On Mon, Apr 15, 2024 at 03:10:20PM -0400, gene heskett wrote: [...] Try running "thunderbird" from a terminal emulator and see what happens. Stopped it. opened an xfce4 terminal and typed "thunderbird"enter, same old same old, two gui's stacked on to

Re: removed foreign architecture

2024-04-15 Thread Felix Miata
fxkl47BF composed on 2024-04-15 18:23 (UTC): > i run bullseye amd64 > i had i386 as a foreign architecture and removed it with no problems > i noticed the message > warning: while removing libsane1:i386, directory > '/usr/lib/i386-linux-gnu/sane' not empty so not removed > /usr/lib/i386-linux-gnu

Re: tbird troubles

2024-04-15 Thread gene heskett
On 4/15/24 14:24, David Wright wrote: On Tue 16 Apr 2024 at 01:20:03 (+0800), Bret Busby wrote: On 16/4/24 00:49, Greg Wooledge wrote: On Mon, Apr 15, 2024 at 10:59:25AM -0400, e...@gmx.us wrote: On 4/15/24 10:01, gene heskett wrote: On 4/15/24 09:09, Greg Wooledge wrote: On Mon, Apr 15, 202

Re: tbird troubles

2024-04-15 Thread gene heskett
On 4/15/24 14:01, Matthew Lemon wrote: aptitude purge '?and(~i ?tag(suite::kde))' I thought it was installed, but apparently is not. Cheers, Gene Heskett, CET. -- "There are four boxes to be used in defense of liberty: soap, ballot, jury, and ammo. Please use in that order." -Ed Howdershelt (Au

Re: tbird troubles

2024-04-15 Thread gene heskett
On 4/15/24 12:49, Greg Wooledge wrote: On Mon, Apr 15, 2024 at 10:59:25AM -0400, e...@gmx.us wrote: On 4/15/24 10:01, gene heskett wrote: On 4/15/24 09:09, Greg Wooledge wrote: On Mon, Apr 15, 2024 at 08:28:24AM -0400, gene heskett wrote: For the last 2 or 3 reboots, when launching t-bird, I

Re: tbird troubles

2024-04-15 Thread tomas
On Mon, Apr 15, 2024 at 03:10:20PM -0400, gene heskett wrote: [...] > > Try running "thunderbird" from a terminal emulator and see what happens. > > > Stopped it. opened an xfce4 terminal and typed "thunderbird"enter, same old > same old, two gui's stacked on top of each other. This, at least,

Help to report a bug related to a usb3 lan adapter driver

2024-04-15 Thread user7415 same
Hello, I'm not very skilled in what concerns to kernel patching and compiling. I had a discussion in stack exchange related to the problem that is well explained here: https://unix.stackexchange.com/questions/774594/debian-12-all-of-sudden-my-usb3-lan-adapter-get-assigned-random-mac-address-ea F

Re: tbird troubles

2024-04-15 Thread Roy J. Tellason, Sr.
On Monday 15 April 2024 10:13:06 am Charles Curley wrote: > On Mon, 15 Apr 2024 08:28:24 -0400 > gene heskett wrote: > > > I am supposedly running xfc4 as a desktop, but htop says I have a > > heck of a lot of kde5 running. How do I get rid of the kde stuff? > > Dependencies seem to be protectin

Re: tbird troubles

2024-04-15 Thread gene heskett
On 4/15/24 11:00, e...@gmx.us wrote: On 4/15/24 10:01, gene heskett wrote: On 4/15/24 09:09, Greg Wooledge wrote: On Mon, Apr 15, 2024 at 08:28:24AM -0400, gene heskett wrote: For the last 2 or 3 reboots, when launching t-bird, I get 2 copies of the gui stacked on top of each other. I can move

Re: tbird troubles

2024-04-15 Thread gene heskett
On 4/15/24 10:13, Charles Curley wrote: On Mon, 15 Apr 2024 08:28:24 -0400 gene heskett wrote: I am supposedly running xfc4 as a desktop, but htop says I have a heck of a lot of kde5 running. How do I get rid of the kde stuff? Dependencies seem to be protecting it from being removed. You pro

Re: Debian 12.5 up-to-date Xfce, Firefox clings to USB stick

2024-04-15 Thread Curt
On 2024-04-15, David Wright wrote: > On Sun 14 Apr 2024 at 14:24:29 (-), Curt wrote: >> On 2024-04-04, Max Nikulin wrote: >> > >> > If you do not trust Gmail as a web application, use a mail application >> > that supports IMAP. >> > >> >> Gmail supports IMAP since more or less forever. > >

Re: Debian 12.5 up-to-date Xfce, Firefox clings to USB stick

2024-04-15 Thread David Wright
On Sun 14 Apr 2024 at 14:24:29 (-), Curt wrote: > On 2024-04-04, Max Nikulin wrote: > > > > If you do not trust Gmail as a web application, use a mail application > > that supports IMAP. > > > > Gmail supports IMAP since more or less forever. AIUI the OP's problem was not when reading mail,

Re: tbird troubles

2024-04-15 Thread David Wright
On Tue 16 Apr 2024 at 01:20:03 (+0800), Bret Busby wrote: > On 16/4/24 00:49, Greg Wooledge wrote: > > On Mon, Apr 15, 2024 at 10:59:25AM -0400, e...@gmx.us wrote: > > > On 4/15/24 10:01, gene heskett wrote: > > > > On 4/15/24 09:09, Greg Wooledge wrote: > > > > > On Mon, Apr 15, 2024 at 08:28:24AM

removed foreign architecture

2024-04-15 Thread fxkl47BF
i run bullseye amd64 i had i386 as a foreign architecture and removed it with no problems i noticed the message warning: while removing libsane1:i386, directory '/usr/lib/i386-linux-gnu/sane' not empty so not removed /usr/lib/i386-linux-gnu/ has libsane.la libsane.so libsane.so.1 libsane.so.1.0

Re: tbird troubles

2024-04-15 Thread Matthew Lemon
On 15-04-2024, gene heskett wrote: For the last 2 or 3 reboots, when launching t-bird, I get 2 copies of the gui stacked on top of each other. I can move them separately to 2 separate workspaces, and both appear to work for some definition of working, but quitting one actually quits both. If

Re: tbird troubles

2024-04-15 Thread Bret Busby
On 16/4/24 00:49, Greg Wooledge wrote: On Mon, Apr 15, 2024 at 10:59:25AM -0400, e...@gmx.us wrote: On 4/15/24 10:01, gene heskett wrote: On 4/15/24 09:09, Greg Wooledge wrote: On Mon, Apr 15, 2024 at 08:28:24AM -0400, gene heskett wrote: For the last 2 or 3 reboots, when launching t-bird, I

Re: tbird troubles

2024-04-15 Thread Greg Wooledge
On Mon, Apr 15, 2024 at 10:59:25AM -0400, e...@gmx.us wrote: > On 4/15/24 10:01, gene heskett wrote: > > On 4/15/24 09:09, Greg Wooledge wrote: > > > On Mon, Apr 15, 2024 at 08:28:24AM -0400, gene heskett wrote: > > > > For the last 2 or 3 reboots, when launching t-bird, I get 2 copies of > > > >

Re: Debian 11 Xfce panel Network Manager applet has disappeared

2024-04-15 Thread Gareth Evans
On Sun 14/04/2024 at 13:29, David Christensen wrote: > debian-user: > > I have a Dell Latitude E6520: > > 2024-04-14 04:28:39 dpchrist@laalaa ~ > $ cat /etc/debian_version ; uname -a > 11.9 > Linux laalaa 5.10.0-28-amd64 #1 SMP Debian 5.10.209-2 (2024-01-31) > x86_64 GNU/Linux > > 2024-04-14 04:3

Re: tbird troubles

2024-04-15 Thread eben
On 4/15/24 10:01, gene heskett wrote: On 4/15/24 09:09, Greg Wooledge wrote: On Mon, Apr 15, 2024 at 08:28:24AM -0400, gene heskett wrote: For the last 2 or 3 reboots, when launching t-bird, I get 2 copies of the gui stacked on top of each other. I can move them separately to 2 separate workspa

Re: tbird troubles

2024-04-15 Thread Charles Curley
On Mon, 15 Apr 2024 08:28:24 -0400 gene heskett wrote: > I am supposedly running xfc4 as a desktop, but htop says I have a > heck of a lot of kde5 running. How do I get rid of the kde stuff? > Dependencies seem to be protecting it from being removed. You probably are running one or more program

Re: tbird troubles

2024-04-15 Thread gene heskett
On 4/15/24 09:09, Greg Wooledge wrote: On Mon, Apr 15, 2024 at 08:28:24AM -0400, gene heskett wrote: For the last 2 or 3 reboots, when launching t-bird, I get 2 copies of the gui stacked on top of each other. I can move them separately to 2 separate workspaces, and both appear to work for some d

Re: tbird troubles

2024-04-15 Thread Greg Wooledge
On Mon, Apr 15, 2024 at 08:28:24AM -0400, gene heskett wrote: > For the last 2 or 3 reboots, when launching t-bird, I get 2 copies of the > gui stacked on top of each other. I can move them separately to 2 separate > workspaces, and both appear to work for some definition of working, but > quitting

tbird troubles

2024-04-15 Thread gene heskett
For the last 2 or 3 reboots, when launching t-bird, I get 2 copies of the gui stacked on top of each other. I can move them separately to 2 separate workspaces, and both appear to work for some definition of working, but quitting one actually quits both. If I click anyplace outside this compos