Re: Can't list root directory

2024-01-31 Thread Loren M. Lang
On January 31, 2024 1:28:37 PM PST, hw wrote: >On Wed, 2024-01-31 at 09:27 -0500, Gary Dale wrote: >> On 2024-01-30 15:54, hw wrote: >> > On Mon, 2024-01-29 at 11:42 -0500, Gary Dale wrote: >> > > I'm running Debian/Trixie on an AMD64 workstation. I've lost the ability >> > > to see the root di

Re: chrony date months off

2024-01-31 Thread gene heskett
On 1/31/24 21:50, Max Nikulin wrote: On 31/01/2024 20:24, didar wrote: On Wed, Jan 31, 2024 at 05:32:26AM -0500, gene heskett wrote: How do I setup /etc/chrony/chrony.conf so it slams the system clock to the current time on the first cycle as its rebooting? There was 20 yeas back, an ntpdate c

Re: Q: Gnome network odd

2024-01-31 Thread David Wright
On Tue 30 Jan 2024 at 07:05:55 (+), Tixy wrote: > On Mon, 2024-01-29 at 23:49 -0600, David Wright wrote: > > I would tend to think that: > > > > . The debian-installer installs ifupdown by default when you don't > >   install a Desktop Manager like Gnome, > > > > . The debian-installer instal

Re: chrony date months off

2024-01-31 Thread Max Nikulin
On 31/01/2024 20:24, didar wrote: On Wed, Jan 31, 2024 at 05:32:26AM -0500, gene heskett wrote: How do I setup /etc/chrony/chrony.conf so it slams the system clock to the current time on the first cycle as its rebooting? There was 20 yeas back, an ntpdate command that would do that. You can us

Re: Probelms with apparmor

2024-01-31 Thread Gareth Evans
On Wed 31/01/2024 at 23:04, Gareth Evans wrote: > On Wed 31/01/2024 at 22:11, Steven Truppe wrote: >> Hey, >> >> >> i've the follwoing trouble: when i try to run certain apps it takes >> forever tostart. i can get rid of the troble by typing $service apparmor >> reload but that's not a partmanent

Re: Probelms with apparmor

2024-01-31 Thread Gareth Evans
On Wed 31/01/2024 at 22:11, Steven Truppe wrote: > Hey, > > > i've the follwoing trouble: when i try to run certain apps it takes > forever tostart. i can get rid of the troble by typing $service apparmor > reload but that's not a partmanent soutoin. > > can someone pleae help me out here ? > > >

Re: Automatically installing GRUB on multiple drives

2024-01-31 Thread hw
On Wed, 2024-01-31 at 06:33 +0100, to...@tuxteam.de wrote: > On Tue, Jan 30, 2024 at 09:47:35PM +0100, hw wrote: > > On Mon, 2024-01-29 at 18:41 +0100, to...@tuxteam.de wrote: > > > On Mon, Jan 29, 2024 at 05:52:38PM +0100, hw wrote: > > > > > > [...] > > > > > > > Ok in that case, hardware RAID

Re: Automatically installing GRUB on multiple drives

2024-01-31 Thread Nicolas George
hw (12024-01-31): > Well, I doubt it. Well, doubt it all you want. In the meantime, we will continue to use it. Did not read the rest, not interested in red herring nightmare scenarios. -- Nicolas George

Probelms with apparmor

2024-01-31 Thread Steven Truppe
    Hey, i've the follwoing trouble: when i try to run certain apps it takes forever tostart. i can get rid of the troble by typing $service apparmor reload but that's not a partmanent soutoin. can someone pleae help me out here ? best regards!

Re: Automatically installing GRUB on multiple drives

2024-01-31 Thread hw
On Tue, 2024-01-30 at 21:35 +0100, Nicolas George wrote: > hw (12024-01-30): > > Yes, and how much effort and how reliable is doing that? > > Very little effort and probably more reliable than hardware RAID with > closed-source hardware. Well, I doubt it. After all you need to copy a whole parti

Re: Debian/Xen on ARM: How to identify source of an unhandled SMC call during boot?

2024-01-31 Thread Tixy
On Wed, 2024-01-31 at 21:59 +0100, hw wrote: > On Wed, 2024-01-31 at 08:02 +0100, Paul Leiber wrote: > > Am 25.01.2024 um 22:28 schrieb Paul Leiber: > > [...] > > > Some people on xen-devel pointed out to me two unhandled SMC calls in > > > the boot logs which could be the root of the problem. I a

Re: Debian/Xen on ARM: How to identify source of an unhandled SMC call during boot?

2024-01-31 Thread Paul Leiber
Am 31.01.2024 um 19:07 schrieb Andrew M.A. Cater: On Wed, Jan 31, 2024 at 08:02:47AM +0100, Paul Leiber wrote: Am 25.01.2024 um 22:28 schrieb Paul Leiber: Paul [1] https://lists.xenproject.org/archives/html/xen-devel/2023-10/msg00796.html [2] https://developer.arm.com/documentation/den0098/la

Re: Automatically installing GRUB on multiple drives

2024-01-31 Thread hw
On Wed, 2024-01-31 at 15:16 +, Andy Smith wrote: > Hi, > > On Tue, Jan 30, 2024 at 09:50:23PM +0100, hw wrote: > > On Mon, 2024-01-29 at 23:53 +, Andy Smith wrote: > > > I think you should read it again until you find the part where it > > > clearly states what the problem is with using MD

Re: chrony date months off

2024-01-31 Thread Steve McIntyre
Darac Marjal wrote: > >The script works like this: if the root device is specified on the >kernel command line AND the word "fixrtc" is  specified, then get the >time that the root file system was last mounted. The script then uses >"date" to set the clock to that date stamp. > >I assume that

Re: chrony date months off

2024-01-31 Thread hw
On Wed, 2024-01-31 at 12:56 -0500, gene heskett wrote: > [...] > Dec 30 03:15:42 bpi51e5p chronyd[1936]: Could not add source 192.168.71.3 > Dec 30 03:15:42 bpi51e5p chronyd[1936]: No suitable source for initstepslew > Dec 30 03:15:42 bpi51e5p chronyd[1936]: Could not add source 192.168.71.3 > Dec

Re: Can't list root directory

2024-01-31 Thread hw
On Wed, 2024-01-31 at 09:27 -0500, Gary Dale wrote: > On 2024-01-30 15:54, hw wrote: > > On Mon, 2024-01-29 at 11:42 -0500, Gary Dale wrote: > > > I'm running Debian/Trixie on an AMD64 workstation. I've lost the ability > > > to see the root directory even when I am logged in as root (su -). > > >

SOLVED:Re: chrony date months off

2024-01-31 Thread gene heskett
On 1/31/24 13:19, Greg Wooledge wrote: On Wed, Jan 31, 2024 at 12:56:37PM -0500, gene heskett wrote: [...] # Stop bad estimates upsetting machine clock. maxupdateskew 10.0 initstepslew 30 192.168.71.3 # This directive enables kernel synchronisation (every 11 minutes) of the # real-time clock

Re: Debian/Xen on ARM: How to identify source of an unhandled SMC call during boot?

2024-01-31 Thread hw
On Wed, 2024-01-31 at 08:02 +0100, Paul Leiber wrote: > Am 25.01.2024 um 22:28 schrieb Paul Leiber: > > Dear Debian user list members, > > > > I am trying to run network related stuff (Samba, Zabbix) on a Raspberry > > Pi 4B in a virtualized environment using Debian Bookworm and Xen. I am > > ru

Re: AW: AW: su su- sudo dont work

2024-01-31 Thread Andrew M.A. Cater
On Wed, Jan 31, 2024 at 01:58:41PM +, Schwibinger Michael wrote: > Good afternoon > I think > maybe Im sure > it is because of rescue mode. > Hi Sophie, Once again: we need to you to show us what commands you run. We need to see error messages. if you cannot run sudo or su, we need you to r

Re: chrony date months off

2024-01-31 Thread Darac Marjal
On 31/01/2024 12:12, Max Nikulin wrote: On 31/01/2024 17:54, to...@tuxteam.de wrote: I think you want "maxstep". It's in the man page chrony.conf(5). But if the time is "months off" perhaps you've got another problem to fix first? I think, the problem is no RTC on some *pi board, certainly c

Re: chrony date months off

2024-01-31 Thread Greg Wooledge
On Wed, Jan 31, 2024 at 12:56:37PM -0500, gene heskett wrote: [...] > # Stop bad estimates upsetting machine clock. > maxupdateskew 10.0 > initstepslew 30 192.168.71.3 > # This directive enables kernel synchronisation (every 11 minutes) of the > # real-time clock. Note that it can’t be used alo

Re: Debian/Xen on ARM: How to identify source of an unhandled SMC call during boot?

2024-01-31 Thread Andrew M.A. Cater
On Wed, Jan 31, 2024 at 08:02:47AM +0100, Paul Leiber wrote: > Am 25.01.2024 um 22:28 schrieb Paul Leiber: > > > > Paul > > > > [1] > > https://lists.xenproject.org/archives/html/xen-devel/2023-10/msg00796.html > > [2] https://developer.arm.com/documentation/den0098/latest/ > > [3] > > https://d

Re: chrony date months off

2024-01-31 Thread gene heskett
On 1/31/24 10:44, Greg Wooledge wrote: On Wed, Jan 31, 2024 at 10:25:40AM -0500, gene heskett wrote: On 1/31/24 08:53, John Hasler wrote: Gene writes: How do I setup /etc/chrony/chrony.conf so it slams the system clock to the current time on the first cycle as its rebooting? initstepslew ma

Re: Can't list root directory

2024-01-31 Thread Max Nikulin
On 29/01/2024 23:42, Gary Dale wrote: "ls -l /" just hangs It may dereference symlinks, call stat, etc. to colorize output. May it happen that you have automount points or something related to network mounts? Does "echo /*" hangs? Even bash prompt may do some funny stuff. I would try it fr

Re: chrony date months off

2024-01-31 Thread Greg Wooledge
On Wed, Jan 31, 2024 at 10:25:40AM -0500, gene heskett wrote: > On 1/31/24 08:53, John Hasler wrote: > > Gene writes: > > > How do I setup /etc/chrony/chrony.conf so it slams the system clock to > > > the current time on the first cycle as its rebooting? > > > > initstepslew > > > > man chrony.co

Re: chrony date months off

2024-01-31 Thread gene heskett
On 1/31/24 08:53, John Hasler wrote: Gene writes: How do I setup /etc/chrony/chrony.conf so it slams the system clock to the current time on the first cycle as its rebooting? initstepslew man chrony.conf deprecated in favor of makestep, and did not work, John. Thanks, John Cheers, Gene He

Re: Automatically installing GRUB on multiple drives

2024-01-31 Thread Andy Smith
Hi, On Tue, Jan 30, 2024 at 09:50:23PM +0100, hw wrote: > On Mon, 2024-01-29 at 23:53 +, Andy Smith wrote: > > I think you should read it again until you find the part where it > > clearly states what the problem is with using MD RAID for this. If > > you still can't find that part, there is l

Re: chrony date months off

2024-01-31 Thread John Hasler
Max Nikulin wrote: > I think, the problem is no RTC on some *pi board, certainly chrony out of > box setup is not ready to such environment and its solution is not > maxstep. That's what makestep (initstepslew now being deprecated) is for. -- John Hasler j...@sugarbit.com Elmwood, WI USA

Re: Can't list root directory

2024-01-31 Thread The Wanderer
On 2024-01-29 at 11:42, Gary Dale wrote: > I'm running Debian/Trixie on an AMD64 workstation. I've lost the > ability to see the root directory even when I am logged in as root > (su -). > > This has been happening intermittently for several months. I > initially thought it might be related to fa

Re: Can't list root directory

2024-01-31 Thread Gary Dale
On 2024-01-29 12:55, Hans wrote: Hi Gary, before loosing any data, I suggest, to boot from a liuvefile linux. Please use a modern livefile like Knoppix or Kali-Linux. If it is not a BIOS problem, you should see the device again and are able to mount it. If /root is on a seperated partition, you

Re: chrony date months off

2024-01-31 Thread gene heskett
On 1/31/24 07:13, Max Nikulin wrote: On 31/01/2024 17:54, to...@tuxteam.de wrote: I think you want "maxstep". It's in the man page chrony.conf(5). But if the time is "months off" perhaps you've got another problem to fix first? Well, I do have other probs with that machine, mostly with the phys

Re: Can't list root directory

2024-01-31 Thread Gary Dale
On 2024-01-29 11:42, Gary Dale wrote: I'm running Debian/Trixie on an AMD64 workstation. I've lost the ability to see the root directory even when I am logged in as root (su -). This has been happening intermittently for several months. I initially thought it might be related to failing NVME

Re: Can't list root directory

2024-01-31 Thread Gary Dale
On 2024-01-30 15:54, hw wrote: On Mon, 2024-01-29 at 11:42 -0500, Gary Dale wrote: I'm running Debian/Trixie on an AMD64 workstation. I've lost the ability to see the root directory even when I am logged in as root (su -). This has been happening intermittently for several months. I initially t

Re: chrony date months off

2024-01-31 Thread Greg Wooledge
On Wed, Jan 31, 2024 at 07:53:01AM -0600, John Hasler wrote: > Gene writes: > > How do I setup /etc/chrony/chrony.conf so it slams the system clock to > > the current time on the first cycle as its rebooting? > > initstepslew > > man chrony.conf Debian 12 has chrony 4.3, and in *that* version of

AW: AW: su su- sudo dont work

2024-01-31 Thread Schwibinger Michael
Good afternoon I think maybe Im sure it is because of rescue mode. Normal booting did not have this problem. Anybody familiar with panic? Regards Thank You Sophie Von: Andrew M.A. Cater Gesendet: Donnerstag, 25. Januar 2024 18:40 An: debian-user@lists.debian.o

Re: chrony date months off

2024-01-31 Thread John Hasler
Gene writes: > How do I setup /etc/chrony/chrony.conf so it slams the system clock to > the current time on the first cycle as its rebooting? initstepslew man chrony.conf -- John Hasler j...@sugarbit.com Elmwood, WI USA

Re: chrony date months off

2024-01-31 Thread didar
On Wed, Jan 31, 2024 at 05:32:26AM -0500, gene heskett wrote: > How do I setup /etc/chrony/chrony.conf so it slams the system clock to the > current time on the first cycle as its rebooting? > There was 20 yeas back, an ntpdate command that would do that. > Now it appears to conflict with the other

Re: chrony date months off

2024-01-31 Thread Max Nikulin
On 31/01/2024 17:54, to...@tuxteam.de wrote: I think you want "maxstep". It's in the man page chrony.conf(5). But if the time is "months off" perhaps you've got another problem to fix first? I think, the problem is no RTC on some *pi board, certainly chrony out of box setup is not ready to su

Re: os-prober detects in wrong order and GRUB doesn't have enough options

2024-01-31 Thread Greg Wooledge
On Wed, Jan 31, 2024 at 05:29:56AM -, David Chmelik wrote: > Earlier this or last year I tried to use Devuan to report os-prober > detects in wrong order. It may detect current OS partition first, but if > you have more than 10, then it continues from 10, and (if this is all you > have) goe

Re: chrony date months off

2024-01-31 Thread tomas
On Wed, Jan 31, 2024 at 05:32:26AM -0500, gene heskett wrote: > How do I setup /etc/chrony/chrony.conf so it slams the system clock to the > current time on the first cycle as its rebooting? > There was 20 yeas back, an ntpdate command that would do that. > Now it appears to conflict with the other

chrony date months off

2024-01-31 Thread gene heskett
How do I setup /etc/chrony/chrony.conf so it slams the system clock to the current time on the first cycle as its rebooting? There was 20 yeas back, an ntpdate command that would do that. Now it appears to conflict with the other client/servers Thanks Cheers, Gene Heskett, CET. -- "There are fo