Re: difference in seconds between two formatted dates ...

2023-12-20 Thread tomas
On Thu, Dec 21, 2023 at 06:08:26AM +, Albretch Mueller wrote: > On 12/21/23, Max Nikulin wrote: > > as a primary source. For majority using systemd > > and what would the systemd way to synch the RTC https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Network_Time_Protocol > (Real Time Clock) The "real time

Re: difference in seconds between two formatted dates ...

2023-12-20 Thread Albretch Mueller
On 12/21/23, Max Nikulin wrote: > as a primary source. For majority using systemd and what would the systemd way to synch the RTC (Real Time Clock) and UTC? Why is it I am noticing a 14 seconds difference on my computer (booted with a Debian Live DVD)? $ readlink /etc/localtime /usr/share/zonei

Re: systemd and timezone (was: Re: difference in seconds between two formatted dates ...)

2023-12-20 Thread tomas
On Thu, Dec 21, 2023 at 10:30:42AM +0700, Max Nikulin wrote: [...] > See systemd-timedated.service(8) and org.freedesktop.timedate1(5) > > busctl introspect org.freedesktop.timedate1 /org/freedesktop/timedate1 > # Values are stripped > org.freedesktop.DBus.Properties interface - [...] > De

Re: difference in seconds between two formatted dates ...

2023-12-20 Thread Max Nikulin
On 21/12/2023 11:37, David Wright wrote: On Wed 20 Dec 2023 at 07:43:51 (+), Albretch Mueller wrote: $ cat /etc/localtime TZif2UTCTZif2UTC UTC0 Take care. That's a binary file. /etc/timezone is the text one. That is why readlink /etc/localtime or ls -l /etc/localtime as a pri

Re: difference in seconds between two formatted dates ...

2023-12-20 Thread tomas
On Wed, Dec 20, 2023 at 10:52:33PM -0600, David Wright wrote: > On Wed 20 Dec 2023 at 08:37:46 (+0100), to...@tuxteam.de wrote: > > On Wed, Dec 20, 2023 at 12:00:29AM -0600, David Wright wrote: > > > > [...] > > > > > Yes, I'm guessing that the OP is in my timezone, as just a few of > > > their p

Re: difference in seconds between two formatted dates ...

2023-12-20 Thread David Wright
On Wed 20 Dec 2023 at 08:37:46 (+0100), to...@tuxteam.de wrote: > On Wed, Dec 20, 2023 at 12:00:29AM -0600, David Wright wrote: > > [...] > > > Yes, I'm guessing that the OP is in my timezone, as just a few of > > their previous posts have -5/-6 offsets. But most are +0, and > > I wonder whether

Re: difference in seconds between two formatted dates ...

2023-12-20 Thread David Wright
On Wed 20 Dec 2023 at 07:43:51 (+), Albretch Mueller wrote: > On 12/20/23, David Wright wrote: > > To be fair to the OP, there was no official "script", but just some code: > > https://lists.debian.org/debian-user/2023/12/msg00894.html > > which I pasted into /tmp/lbrtchx.sh. The filename su

Re: wireless broadband providers exist

2023-12-20 Thread John Hasler
Jeff writes: > I would probably contact the FCC and see what their [the FTC] position > is when a city attempts to grant a monopoly to a service provider. Cities can decide who they allow to string cables over or under their streets. They can't regulate radio, though. > It does not affect your d

Re: wireless broadband providers exist

2023-12-20 Thread John Hasler
pocket writes: > wireless "high-speed" Internet access is prohibited as stated in the > agreement (made in the year 1995) between city council and time warner > who was bought out by charter/spectrum That's binding on the city government, not on you. In the USA the city can deny a wireless provid

systemd and timezone (was: Re: difference in seconds between two formatted dates ...)

2023-12-20 Thread Max Nikulin
I am not going to discuss code posted by Albretch, despite it has serious issues from my point of view. This is a response to Greg. On 20/12/2023 22:04, Greg Wooledge wrote: The selection of the computer's default time zone by its owner is not in ANY way related to the computer's geographic lo

Re: wireless broadband providers exist

2023-12-20 Thread Pocket
On 12/20/23 20:45, Jeffrey Walton wrote: On Wed, Dec 20, 2023 at 8:04 PM Pocket wrote: On 12/20/23 19:48, The Wanderer wrote: On 2023-12-20 at 19:39, Felix Miata wrote: Pocket composed on 2023-12-20 17:55 (UTC-0500): Actually I can not change as the ISP has exclusive rights to the high sp

Re: wireless broadband providers exist

2023-12-20 Thread Jeffrey Walton
On Wed, Dec 20, 2023 at 8:04 PM Pocket wrote: > > > On 12/20/23 19:48, The Wanderer wrote: > > On 2023-12-20 at 19:39, Felix Miata wrote: > > Pocket composed on 2023-12-20 17:55 (UTC-0500): > > Actually I can not change as the ISP has exclusive rights to the high > speed internet in the area I res

Re: wireless broadband providers exist

2023-12-20 Thread Pocket
On 12/20/23 20:28, Felix Miata wrote: Pocket composed on 2023-12-20 19:55 (UTC-0500): Felix Miata wrote: Pocket composed on 2023-12-20 17:55 (UTC-0500): Actually I can not change as the ISP has exclusive rights to the high speed internet in the area I reside in. That's how it was where I l

Re: wireless broadband providers exist

2023-12-20 Thread Felix Miata
Pocket composed on 2023-12-20 19:55 (UTC-0500): > Felix Miata wrote: >> Pocket composed on 2023-12-20 17:55 (UTC-0500): >>> Actually I can not change as the ISP has exclusive rights to the high >>> speed internet in the area I reside in. That's how it was where I live now when I moved here, whe

Re: wireless broadband providers exist

2023-12-20 Thread Pocket
On 12/20/23 19:48, The Wanderer wrote: On 2023-12-20 at 19:39, Felix Miata wrote: Pocket composed on 2023-12-20 17:55 (UTC-0500): Actually I can not change as the ISP has exclusive rights to the high speed internet in the area I reside in. No other providers are allowed. That could be a hi

Re: wireless broadband providers exist

2023-12-20 Thread Pocket
On 12/20/23 19:39, Felix Miata wrote: Pocket composed on 2023-12-20 17:55 (UTC-0500): Actually I can not change as the ISP has exclusive rights to the high speed internet in the area I reside in. No other providers are allowed. That could be a historical concept, depending exactly on where y

Re: wireless broadband providers exist

2023-12-20 Thread The Wanderer
On 2023-12-20 at 19:39, Felix Miata wrote: > Pocket composed on 2023-12-20 17:55 (UTC-0500): > >> Actually I can not change as the ISP has exclusive rights to the high >> speed internet in the area I reside in. >> >> No other providers are allowed. > > That could be a historical concept, depen

Re: wireless broadband providers exist (was: lists)

2023-12-20 Thread Felix Miata
Pocket composed on 2023-12-20 17:55 (UTC-0500): > Actually I can not change as the ISP has exclusive rights to the high > speed internet in the area I reside in. > > No other providers are allowed. That could be a historical concept, depending exactly on where you live. Some of us mericans who

Re: lists

2023-12-20 Thread Pocket
On 12/20/23 18:41, John Hasler wrote: pocket writes: I never implied that, only that the ISP services are spectrum only in the area I live. No Starlik? In any case what ISP you use is unrelated to what email provider you use. I use pobox.com, but there are others. No starlink I have spoke

Re: lists

2023-12-20 Thread John Hasler
pocket writes: > I never implied that, only that the ISP services are spectrum only in the > area I live. No Starlik? In any case what ISP you use is unrelated to what email provider you use. I use pobox.com, but there are others. -- John Hasler j...@sugarbit.com Elmwood, WI USA

Re: lists

2023-12-20 Thread Pocket
On 12/20/23 17:59, gene heskett wrote: On 12/20/23 14:14, Marco Moock wrote: Am 20.12.2023 um 14:04:41 Uhr schrieb Pocket: I have emails from other lists and personal email from other with the same time frame So in this case it was not because the email box/account was not available. Are

Re: lists

2023-12-20 Thread Richard Hector
On 21/12/23 11:55, Pocket wrote: On 12/20/23 17:37, gene heskett wrote: On 12/20/23 12:05, Pocket wrote: On 12/20/23 11:51, gene heskett wrote: On 12/20/23 08:30, Pocket wrote: If I get one bounce email I am banned, I will never get to even 10% as 2% and I am gone. That may be a side effect

Re: lists

2023-12-20 Thread gene heskett
On 12/20/23 14:14, Marco Moock wrote: Am 20.12.2023 um 14:04:41 Uhr schrieb Pocket: I have emails from other lists and personal email from other with the same time frame So in this case it was not because the email box/account was not available. Are you really that thick as a brick that you

Re: lists

2023-12-20 Thread Pocket
On 12/20/23 17:37, gene heskett wrote: On 12/20/23 12:05, Pocket wrote: On 12/20/23 11:51, gene heskett wrote: On 12/20/23 08:30, Pocket wrote: On 12/20/23 07:59, Andy Smith wrote: Hi, On Wed, Dec 20, 2023 at 07:38:49AM -0500, Pocket wrote: which poc...@columbus.rr.com Not sure what yo

Re: lists

2023-12-20 Thread gene heskett
On 12/20/23 12:05, Pocket wrote: On 12/20/23 11:51, gene heskett wrote: On 12/20/23 08:30, Pocket wrote: On 12/20/23 07:59, Andy Smith wrote: Hi, On Wed, Dec 20, 2023 at 07:38:49AM -0500, Pocket wrote: which poc...@columbus.rr.com Not sure what you're trying to achieve but these administr

Re: Mouse single click handling?

2023-12-20 Thread James H. H. Lampert
On 12/20/23 1:06 PM, Cindy Sue Causey wrote: I finally switched tactics last year and tried gaming mice. I thought about the way they're used. It's comparable to how much I click for emails and research related to ongoing Life.. shtuff. The main reason why I avoid gaming mice is because they te

Re: Mouse single click handling?

2023-12-20 Thread Cindy Sue Causey
On 12/19/23, local10 wrote: > Dec 19, 2023, 15:30 by hfollm...@itcfollmann.com: > >> I have to ask: are you currently located at a remote location like the >> ISS >> station or similar? > > No, nothing like that. > >> Why would you go down this rabbit hole when the right >> thing is to replace fau

Re: lists

2023-12-20 Thread Pocket
Sent from my iPhone > On Dec 20, 2023, at 3:29 PM, Marco Moock wrote: > > Am 20.12.2023 um 15:08:32 Uhr schrieb Pocket: > >> Sent from my iPhone > > Nobody is interested in that, maybe the auto-unsubscribe is a good > thing for all other list members. > Nobady is interested in you pointi

Re: lists

2023-12-20 Thread Marco Moock
Am 20.12.2023 um 15:08:32 Uhr schrieb Pocket: > Sent from my iPhone Nobody is interested in that, maybe the auto-unsubscribe is a good thing for all other list members. > > On Dec 20, 2023, at 2:14 PM, Marco Moock wrote: > > > > Am 20.12.2023 um 14:04:41 Uhr schrieb Pocket: > > > >> I have

Re: lists

2023-12-20 Thread Pocket
Sent from my iPhone > On Dec 20, 2023, at 2:14 PM, Marco Moock wrote: > > Am 20.12.2023 um 14:04:41 Uhr schrieb Pocket: > >> I have emails from other lists and personal email from other with the >> same time frame >> >> So in this case it was not because the email box/account was not >> a

Re: lists

2023-12-20 Thread Jeffrey Walton
On Wed, Dec 20, 2023 at 2:14 PM Marco Moock wrote: > > Am 20.12.2023 um 14:04:41 Uhr schrieb Pocket: > > > [...] > > And could that be the reason to multiple sessions were opened from > > debian list servers? > > No, the reason is that SMTP doesn't specify that only a special > amount of connectio

Re: Mouse single click handling?

2023-12-20 Thread James H. H. Lampert
On 12/20/23 11:30 AM, Jeremy Nicoll wrote: Until about a year ago my experience with Logitech mice had been good. Those that had died normally did so after falling off a desk, which I don't really see as a manufacturing fault. But since then several I've bought have all failed with the problem

Re: Mouse single click handling?

2023-12-20 Thread Jeremy Nicoll
On Wed, 20 Dec 2023, at 04:25, Charles Curley wrote: > I suggest you buy a different rodent. I bought three Logitech rodents > some years ago on sale for $10 each. All three still work quite well. Until about a year ago my experience with Logitech mice had been good. Those that had died normally

Re: lists

2023-12-20 Thread Marco Moock
Am 20.12.2023 um 14:04:41 Uhr schrieb Pocket: > I have emails from other lists and personal email from other with the > same time frame > > So in this case it was not because the email box/account was not > available. Are you really that thick as a brick that you don't understand that this is s

Re: lists

2023-12-20 Thread Pocket
On 12/20/23 13:40, Hanno 'Rince' Wagner wrote: Hi everybody, On Wed, 20 Dec 2023, Pocket wrote: What if there were more, that you did *not* see? Because they didn't get through. If mail isn't reaching you, then the mail *telling* you that mail isn't reaching you may also not reach you. B

Re: lists

2023-12-20 Thread Michael Kjörling
On 20 Dec 2023 12:00 -0500, from poc...@columbus.rr.com (Pocket): > The SMTP server on bendel.debian.org should have resent?  No? In one word: No. Because the mail in question was rejected by the recipient MTA (pkvw-mx.msg.pkvw.co.charter.net) with a PERMANENT error. This is clearly shown in your

Re: Mouse single click handling?

2023-12-20 Thread local10
Dec 20, 2023, 15:22 by noloa...@gmail.com: > And here's the bug report: <> https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=413502> > > I was following this bug but it didn't help me, probably because the system sees it as two single clicks that happen quickly one after another, not a double click. Regar

Re: lists

2023-12-20 Thread Pocket
On 12/20/23 13:17, Greg Wooledge wrote: On Wed, Dec 20, 2023 at 12:05:26PM -0500, Pocket wrote: I was kicked at 2% How do you *know*? What you *know* is that you *saw* *one* email message stating that emails have been trouble reaching you, and that if this continues, you will be unsubscribed.

Re: lists

2023-12-20 Thread Nicolas George
Pocket (12023-12-20): > Ok I will twist their arms and complain to the cops or maybe I should > comtact the DOJ, This kind of sarcasm is not constructive. You send a mail or open a ticket. If they do not fix the issue and do not give a good explanation, you take your mail archives and you move t

[SOLVED] Re: Mouse single click handling?

2023-12-20 Thread local10
Dec 20, 2023, 14:57 by anssi.sa...@debian-user.mail.kapsi.fi: > BTW, you might be able to use working switches from your other mice as > spare parts if you want to fix one. > That's a good idea though I ended up doing what Tom had suggested: https://lists.debian.org/debian-user/2023/12/msg00950.

Re: lists

2023-12-20 Thread Greg Wooledge
On Wed, Dec 20, 2023 at 12:05:26PM -0500, Pocket wrote: > I was kicked at 2% How do you *know*? What you *know* is that you *saw* *one* email message stating that emails have been trouble reaching you, and that if this continues, you will be unsubscribed. What if there were more, that you did *n

Re: lists

2023-12-20 Thread Pocket
On 12/20/23 11:48, to...@tuxteam.de wrote: On Wed, Dec 20, 2023 at 11:40:38AM -0500, Pocket wrote: [...] Still doesn't provide and answer for why I was kicked after one email bounced. You have seen just one bounce. Do you know your provider has shown you all of them? Perhaps they bounced th

Re: lists

2023-12-20 Thread Pocket
On 12/20/23 11:51, gene heskett wrote: On 12/20/23 08:30, Pocket wrote: On 12/20/23 07:59, Andy Smith wrote: Hi, On Wed, Dec 20, 2023 at 07:38:49AM -0500, Pocket wrote: which poc...@columbus.rr.com Not sure what you're trying to achieve but these administrative commands should go to the m

Re: lists

2023-12-20 Thread Pocket
On 12/20/23 11:51, Andy Smith wrote: Hello, On Wed, Dec 20, 2023 at 11:44:42AM -0500, Pocket wrote: Does one email constitute "persistently undeliverable"? I hope that the Debian listmasters get back to you with more details, but I interpret Spectrum's reject message to mean that all mails f

Re: lists

2023-12-20 Thread gene heskett
On 12/20/23 08:30, Pocket wrote: On 12/20/23 07:59, Andy Smith wrote: Hi, On Wed, Dec 20, 2023 at 07:38:49AM -0500, Pocket wrote: which poc...@columbus.rr.com Not sure what you're trying to achieve but these administrative commands should go to the mailing list software at , not to debian-us

Re: lists

2023-12-20 Thread Marco Moock
Am 20.12.2023 um 16:49:17 Uhr schrieb Joe: > I'm not actually looking for an ident reply, I'm looking to hold up > the transaction for thirty seconds to weed out the spambots. This is a > convenient way to do it. sendmail offers the FEATURE GreetPause for exactly that behavior - without using ide

Re: lists

2023-12-20 Thread Andy Smith
Hello, On Wed, Dec 20, 2023 at 11:44:42AM -0500, Pocket wrote: > Does one email constitute "persistently undeliverable"? I hope that the Debian listmasters get back to you with more details, but I interpret Spectrum's reject message to mean that all mails from Debian's IP from that time forward w

Re: lists

2023-12-20 Thread Joe
On Wed, 20 Dec 2023 17:14:05 +0100 Marco Moock wrote: > Am 20.12.2023 um 15:58:48 Uhr schrieb Joe: > > > For many years my SMTP server has requested an ident (TCP port 113) > > from outside sending servers. Since nobody now runs ident servers, > > there will be no reply, and my server waits for

Re: lists

2023-12-20 Thread tomas
On Wed, Dec 20, 2023 at 11:40:38AM -0500, Pocket wrote: [...] > Still doesn't provide and answer for why I was kicked after one email > bounced. You have seen just one bounce. Do you know your provider has shown you all of them? Perhaps they bounced the other missing ones... Cheers -- t sign

Re: lists

2023-12-20 Thread tomas
On Wed, Dec 20, 2023 at 11:44:42AM -0500, Pocket wrote: [...] > Does one email constitute "persistently undeliverable"? If *your* provider says so... Cheers -- t signature.asc Description: PGP signature

Re: lists

2023-12-20 Thread Marco Moock
Am 20.12.2023 um 11:44:42 Uhr schrieb Pocket: > Does one email constitute "persistently undeliverable"? 5xx error indicate that, read the SMTP RFCs.

Re: lists

2023-12-20 Thread Pocket
On 12/20/23 11:42, Andy Smith wrote: Hello, On Wed, Dec 20, 2023 at 11:30:24AM -0500, Pocket wrote: On 12/20/23 11:26,to...@tuxteam.de wrote: And yes, yell to your provider. Everyone and her dog coming up with random policies is what's killing email. I am sure the will be quaking in their b

Re: lists

2023-12-20 Thread Andy Smith
Hello, On Wed, Dec 20, 2023 at 11:30:24AM -0500, Pocket wrote: > On 12/20/23 11:26, to...@tuxteam.de wrote: > > And yes, yell to your provider. Everyone and her dog coming > > up with random policies is what's killing email. > > I am sure the will be quaking in their boots if I call them to deman

Re: lists

2023-12-20 Thread Pocket
On 12/20/23 11:37, Andy Smith wrote: Hello, On Wed, Dec 20, 2023 at 11:16:02AM -0500, Pocket wrote: On 12/20/23 11:12, Marco Moock wrote: Am 20.12.2023 um 11:07:16 Uhr schrieb Pocket: Spectrum limits the number of concurrent connections from a sender, as well as the total number of connecti

Re: lists

2023-12-20 Thread Andy Smith
Hello, On Wed, Dec 20, 2023 at 11:16:02AM -0500, Pocket wrote: > On 12/20/23 11:12, Marco Moock wrote: > > Am 20.12.2023 um 11:07:16 Uhr schrieb Pocket: > > > Spectrum limits the number of concurrent connections from a sender, > > > as well as the total number of connections allowed. Limits vary b

Re: lists

2023-12-20 Thread Marco Moock
Am 20.12.2023 um 11:30:24 Uhr schrieb Pocket: > On 12/20/23 11:26, to...@tuxteam.de wrote: > > On Wed, Dec 20, 2023 at 11:16:02AM -0500, Pocket wrote: > > > > [...] > > > >> Why is the user list the only one that has this issue? > > It is the busiest list, thus the bounce probability might > >

Re: lists

2023-12-20 Thread Pocket
On 12/20/23 11:31, Andy Smith wrote: Hello, On Wed, Dec 20, 2023 at 11:07:16AM -0500, Pocket wrote: Spectrum limits the number of concurrent connections from a sender, as well as the total number of connections allowed. Limits vary based on the reputation of the IP address. Reduce your number

Re: lists

2023-12-20 Thread Andy Smith
Hello, On Wed, Dec 20, 2023 at 11:07:16AM -0500, Pocket wrote: > Spectrum limits the number of concurrent connections from a sender, as well > as the total number of connections allowed. Limits vary based on the > reputation of the IP address. Reduce your number of connections and try > again late

Re: lists

2023-12-20 Thread Pocket
On 12/20/23 11:26, to...@tuxteam.de wrote: On Wed, Dec 20, 2023 at 11:16:02AM -0500, Pocket wrote: [...] Why is the user list the only one that has this issue? It is the busiest list, thus the bounce probability might be the highest. And yes, yell to your provider. Everyone and her dog com

Re: lists

2023-12-20 Thread Marco Moock
Am 20.12.2023 um 17:26:25 Uhr schrieb Thomas Schmitt: > A while ago this list had a problem with fake bounces. A troll managed > to convince the list server that some of the subscribers would reject > the list mails. I am not familiar with the exact technical properties > of that attack and how it

Re: lists

2023-12-20 Thread tomas
On Wed, Dec 20, 2023 at 05:14:05PM +0100, Marco Moock wrote: > Am 20.12.2023 um 15:58:48 Uhr schrieb Joe: > > > For many years my SMTP server has requested an ident (TCP port 113) > > from outside sending servers. Since nobody now runs ident servers, > > there will be no reply, and my server waits

Re: lists

2023-12-20 Thread tomas
On Wed, Dec 20, 2023 at 11:16:02AM -0500, Pocket wrote: [...] > Why is the user list the only one that has this issue? It is the busiest list, thus the bounce probability might be the highest. And yes, yell to your provider. Everyone and her dog coming up with random policies is what's killing

Re: lists

2023-12-20 Thread Thomas Schmitt
Hi, (Cc-ing poc...@columbus.rr.com just in case the unsubscription strikes again.) Pocket wrote: > I spend several days trying to subscribed to the list, with the web signup > ALWAYS time out with a gateway error. The mails from the list have these informational headers: List-Subscribe: <

Re: lists

2023-12-20 Thread Pocket
On 12/20/23 11:12, Marco Moock wrote: Am 20.12.2023 um 11:07:16 Uhr schrieb Pocket: Spectrum limits the number of concurrent connections from a sender, as well as the total number of connections allowed. Limits vary based on the reputation of the IP address. Reduce your number of connections

Re: lists

2023-12-20 Thread Marco Moock
Am 20.12.2023 um 15:58:48 Uhr schrieb Joe: > For many years my SMTP server has requested an ident (TCP port 113) > from outside sending servers. Since nobody now runs ident servers, > there will be no reply, and my server waits for a timeout of thirty > seconds before continuing. Good admins don'

Re: lists

2023-12-20 Thread Marco Moock
Am 20.12.2023 um 11:07:16 Uhr schrieb Pocket: > Spectrum limits the number of concurrent connections from a sender, > as well as the total number of connections allowed. Limits vary based > on the reputation of the IP address. Reduce your number of > connections and try again later. You can't fix

Re: lists

2023-12-20 Thread Pocket
On 12/20/23 10:50, Andy Smith wrote: Hello, On Wed, Dec 20, 2023 at 04:11:05PM +0100, Christoph Brinkhaus wrote: I have heard that there is a countermeasure against spam run be big mail providers by rejecting the first contact by SMTP and accepting the next contact. Most spammers seem to try j

Re: GRUB -- Debian overrides? Or maybe I just don't understand it well...

2023-12-20 Thread Roy J. Tellason, Sr.
On Tuesday 19 December 2023 09:40:19 pm Felix Miata wrote: > I suspect few if any regulars here spend much time with Slackware. I, for one, have been running Slackware since 1999. It's what's running in this virtualbox where I do my email, and it's also what's running on my file server...

Re: lists

2023-12-20 Thread Brad Rogers
On Wed, 20 Dec 2023 16:08:54 +0100 Marco Moock wrote: Hello Marco, >He can read that list via Usenet because it is gatewayed to it Thank you; I'm aware there are several ways to read the messages. I was merely pointing out the (perhaps) obvious. -- Regards _ "Valid sig separator is

Re: lists

2023-12-20 Thread Joe
On Wed, 20 Dec 2023 16:11:05 +0100 Christoph Brinkhaus wrote: > > I have heard that there is a countermeasure against spam run be big > mail providers by rejecting the first contact by SMTP and accepting > the next contact. Most spammers seem to try just once. > > I am not sure if this is 100%

Re: lists

2023-12-20 Thread Andy Smith
Hello, On Wed, Dec 20, 2023 at 10:43:04AM -0500, Pocket wrote: > On 12/20/23 10:35, Jeffrey Walton wrote: > > For the gateway errors and majordomo delays, you should probably > > contact . Also see > > . > > That goes without any response, I can not tell if the ema

Re: lists

2023-12-20 Thread Jeffrey Walton
On Wed, Dec 20, 2023 at 10:43 AM Pocket wrote: > > > On 12/20/23 10:35, Jeffrey Walton wrote: > > On Wed, Dec 20, 2023 at 10:28 AM Pocket wrote: > >> [...] > >> > >> I get/have a kick rate of 2% (one bounce in the last 60 days), then I am > >> kicked and no longer receive anything from the user l

Re: lists

2023-12-20 Thread Andy Smith
Hello, On Wed, Dec 20, 2023 at 04:11:05PM +0100, Christoph Brinkhaus wrote: > I have heard that there is a countermeasure against spam run be big mail > providers by rejecting the first contact by SMTP and accepting the next > contact. Most spammers seem to try just once. I think you are talking

Re: lists

2023-12-20 Thread Michael Kjörling
On 20 Dec 2023 16:14 +0100, from m...@dorfdsl.de (Marco Moock): >> I have heard that there is a countermeasure against spam run be big >> mail providers by rejecting the first contact by SMTP and accepting >> the next contact. Most spammers seem to try just once. > > Do they reject with 5xx or 4xx

Re: lists

2023-12-20 Thread Pocket
On 12/20/23 10:35, Jeffrey Walton wrote: On Wed, Dec 20, 2023 at 10:28 AM Pocket wrote: [...] I get/have a kick rate of 2% (one bounce in the last 60 days), then I am kicked and no longer receive anything from the user list. After many attempts over several days... I finally get email

Re: lists

2023-12-20 Thread Jeffrey Walton
On Wed, Dec 20, 2023 at 10:28 AM Pocket wrote: > > [...] > > I get/have a kick rate of 2% (one bounce in the last 60 days), then I am > kicked and no longer receive anything from the user list. > > After many attempts over several days... > > I finally get email from majord...@lists.debian.org

Re: difference in seconds between two formatted dates ...

2023-12-20 Thread Nicolas George
Greg Wooledge (12023-12-20): > Huh? None of this makes any sense. I salute you for your patience and excellent message. Just a few remarks: > Learn how time works. Then rewrite everything. Fortunately, we do not have to handle relativistic issues à la “meanwhile at the other side of the galax

Re: lists

2023-12-20 Thread Pocket
On 12/20/23 10:11, Christoph Brinkhaus wrote: Am Wed, Dec 20, 2023 at 08:13:12AM -0500 schrieb Pocket: On 12/20/23 07:59, Andy Smith wrote: [...] Every 60 days I get kicked from this list which I receive an email stating my kick value is 2%. I receive this mails, too. The first impression

Re: lists

2023-12-20 Thread Christoph Brinkhaus
Am Wed, Dec 20, 2023 at 04:14:57PM +0100 schrieb Marco Moock: > Am 20.12.2023 um 16:11:05 Uhr schrieb Christoph Brinkhaus: > > > I have heard that there is a countermeasure against spam run be big > > mail providers by rejecting the first contact by SMTP and accepting > > the next contact. Most sp

Re: Mouse single click handling?

2023-12-20 Thread Jeffrey Walton
On Wed, Dec 20, 2023 at 10:18 AM Jeffrey Walton wrote: > > On Tue, Dec 19, 2023 at 2:53 PM local10 wrote: > > > > I have several mice that went bad with the same defect: they sometimes > > generate two single clicks very quickly (say, within 10-20ms) instead of a > > single click. > > > > With

Re: Mouse single click handling?

2023-12-20 Thread Jeffrey Walton
On Tue, Dec 19, 2023 at 2:53 PM local10 wrote: > > I have several mice that went bad with the same defect: they sometimes > generate two single clicks very quickly (say, within 10-20ms) instead of a > single click. > > With reference to the above, is there a way or setting to force several mouse

Re: lists

2023-12-20 Thread Marco Moock
Am 20.12.2023 um 16:11:05 Uhr schrieb Christoph Brinkhaus: > I have heard that there is a countermeasure against spam run be big > mail providers by rejecting the first contact by SMTP and accepting > the next contact. Most spammers seem to try just once. Do they reject with 5xx or 4xx?

Re: lists

2023-12-20 Thread Christoph Brinkhaus
Am Wed, Dec 20, 2023 at 08:13:12AM -0500 schrieb Pocket: > > On 12/20/23 07:59, Andy Smith wrote: [...] > Every 60 days I get kicked from this list which I receive an email stating > my kick value is 2%. I receive this mails, too. The first impression is scary, but in the body there is an explan

Re: lists

2023-12-20 Thread Marco Moock
Am 20.12.2023 um 13:39:04 Uhr schrieb Brad Rogers: > You don't need to be subbed to post to the list. Of course, you won't > receive any posts from the list. He can read that list via Usenet because it is gatewayed to it, nobody will block the messages there.

Re: difference in seconds between two formatted dates ...

2023-12-20 Thread Greg Wooledge
On Wed, Dec 20, 2023 at 01:12:35PM +, Albretch Mueller wrote: > The only way I see is for the running computer on "exposed mode" to > check via systemd if the time zone has been changed Huh? None of this makes any sense. First of all, the system's default time zone only changes if a user wi

Re: Mouse single click handling?

2023-12-20 Thread Anssi Saari
local10 writes: > It's a Logitech Trackman Marble Trackball mouse (T-BC21 model). I like > this model but for some reason they just don't seem to last as long as > they used to. Maybe they have cost reduced it so much it doesn't last as well any more. Looks like there are some other models from

Re: lists

2023-12-20 Thread Brad Rogers
On Wed, 20 Dec 2023 08:13:12 -0500 Pocket wrote: Hello Pocket, >Every 60 days I get kicked from this list which I receive an email >stating my kick value is 2%. Sounds as though something is rejecting posts at your mail provider. Hence you get kicked. You don't need to be subbed to post to th

Re: lists

2023-12-20 Thread Andy Smith
On Wed, Dec 20, 2023 at 08:13:12AM -0500, Pocket wrote: > On 12/20/23 07:59, Andy Smith wrote: > > these administrative commands should go to the mailing list > > software at , not to debian-user@, > > which is the list itself and its thousands of subscribers. […] > Every 60 days I get kicked fro

Re: lists

2023-12-20 Thread tomas
On Wed, Dec 20, 2023 at 08:13:12AM -0500, Pocket wrote: > > On 12/20/23 07:59, Andy Smith wrote: > > Hi, > > > > On Wed, Dec 20, 2023 at 07:38:49AM -0500, Pocket wrote: > > > which poc...@columbus.rr.com > > Not sure what you're trying to achieve but these administrative > > commands should go to

Re: difference in seconds between two formatted dates ...

2023-12-20 Thread tomas
On Wed, Dec 20, 2023 at 01:12:35PM +, Albretch Mueller wrote: > On 12/20/23, to...@tuxteam.de wrote: > > On Wed, Dec 20, 2023 at 07:15:20AM -0500, Greg Wooledge wrote: > >> On Wed, Dec 20, 2023 at 07:43:51AM +, Albretch Mueller wrote: > >> > I do see the good in what you are suggesting to

Re: lists

2023-12-20 Thread Pocket
On 12/20/23 07:59, Andy Smith wrote: Hi, On Wed, Dec 20, 2023 at 07:38:49AM -0500, Pocket wrote: which poc...@columbus.rr.com Not sure what you're trying to achieve but these administrative commands should go to the mailing list software at , not to debian-user@, which is the list itself and

Re: difference in seconds between two formatted dates ...

2023-12-20 Thread Albretch Mueller
On 12/20/23, to...@tuxteam.de wrote: > On Wed, Dec 20, 2023 at 07:15:20AM -0500, Greg Wooledge wrote: >> On Wed, Dec 20, 2023 at 07:43:51AM +, Albretch Mueller wrote: >> > I do see the good in what you are suggesting to me and I will have to >> > include time zones in the file names as well a

Re: lists

2023-12-20 Thread Andy Smith
Hi, On Wed, Dec 20, 2023 at 07:38:49AM -0500, Pocket wrote: > which poc...@columbus.rr.com Not sure what you're trying to achieve but these administrative commands should go to the mailing list software at , not to debian-user@, which is the list itself and its thousands of subscribers. (A pity

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Re: Mouse single click handling?

2023-12-20 Thread Dan Purgert
On Dec 19, 2023, Felix Miata wrote: > Alexander V. Makartsev composed on 2023-12-19 11:37 (UTC-0500): > > > local10 wrote: > > >> I have several mice that went bad with the same defect: they > >> sometimes generate two single clicks very quickly (say, within > >> 10-20ms) instead of a single clic

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Re: difference in seconds between two formatted dates ...

2023-12-20 Thread tomas
On Wed, Dec 20, 2023 at 07:15:20AM -0500, Greg Wooledge wrote: > On Wed, Dec 20, 2023 at 07:43:51AM +, Albretch Mueller wrote: > > I do see the good in what you are suggesting to me and I will have to > > include time zones in the file names as well and deal with the > > possible cases (someon

Re: difference in seconds between two formatted dates ...

2023-12-20 Thread Greg Wooledge
On Wed, Dec 20, 2023 at 07:43:51AM +, Albretch Mueller wrote: > I do see the good in what you are suggesting to me and I will have to > include time zones in the file names as well and deal with the > possible cases (someone working at Charles de Gaulle Airport in > Paris/France boards a plane

Re: OT: Pitfalls of online purchases (Was Re: Mouse single clickhandling?)

2023-12-20 Thread gene heskett
On 12/20/23 02:48, Alexander V. Makartsev wrote: On 19.12.2023 23:48, Felix Miata wrote: Can you suggest any particular online source in North America that sells those switches? I had no success trying to refurb one in my invaluable Logitech Trackman Marble FX PS/2 trackball. It took 2 hours t

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