Re: Mason service on personal computer

On 12/20/23 00:57, Daniel Rodriguez wrote: Hello, I want to understand the purpose of a service that I found on my personal PC. it's mason.service, I am troubleshooting, some services and it shows the following output with systemctl status mason.service: ● mason.service - LSB: Starts the mason

OT: Pitfalls of online purchases (Was Re: Mouse single click handling?)

On 19.12.2023 23:48, Felix Miata wrote: Can you suggest any particular online source in North America that sells those switches? I had no success trying to refurb one in my invaluable Logitech Trackman Marble FX PS/2 trackball. It took 2 hours to get that tiny switch back together after disasse

Re: difference in seconds between two formatted dates ...

On 12/20/23, David Wright wrote: > To be fair to the OP, there was no official "script", but just some code: > https://lists.debian.org/debian-user/2023/12/msg00894.html > which I pasted into /tmp/lbrtchx.sh. The filename suffix was a mere > convenience to make emacs colour the code and tidy the

Re: difference in seconds between two formatted dates ...

On Wed, Dec 20, 2023 at 12:00:29AM -0600, David Wright wrote: [...] > Yes, I'm guessing that the OP is in my timezone, as just a few of > their previous posts have -5/-6 offsets. But most are +0, and > I wonder whether the OP ran this code on an all-UTC machine. > (IDK whether their using gmail i

Re: Mason service on personal computer

On Tue, Dec 19, 2023 at 06:57:52PM -0500, Daniel Rodriguez wrote: > I want to understand the purpose of a service that I found on my personal > PC. it's mason.service, => http://www.stearns.org/mason/mason-2.html It's a tool for building firewall rules based on typical traffic. But as far as I c

Re: GRUB -- Debian overrides? Or maybe I just don't understand it well...

David Wright composed on 2023-12-20 00:00 (UTC-0600): > In case it's not clear, "generically symlinked" means that > /vmlinuz is a symlink pointing to the most recent linux-image. > (Similarly for initrd.) I added the following to > /etc/grub.d/07_custom: > menuentry 'My bullseye' $menuentry_i

how to clone apt repository to newest only?

how to clone apt repository to newest only? Fedora/Red Hat will organize the repository by copying only the most recent packages from that distribution if you give it the "reposync --newest-only" option, but Debian doesn't seem to be able to do that. What can I do?

Re: Bookworm: Analog audio disappeared

Oof, I would be frustrated. It doesn't sound like a Pipewire problem. It's more likely related to a firmware upgrade, and I wouldn't try to troubleshoot Pipewire (etc.) until I could see the audio hardware in amixer or alsamixer. Also the CPU microcode seems less likely than the motherboard firm

Re: GRUB -- Debian overrides? Or maybe I just don't understand it well...

On Tue 19 Dec 2023 at 21:40:19 (-0500), Felix Miata wrote: > Mark Fletcher composed on 2023-12-20 00:28 (UTC): > > > I am curious to know from Debian > > GRUBbers (as it were) if the behaviour I am describing in this thread > > is expected... > > I suspect few if any regulars here spend much time

Re: difference in seconds between two formatted dates ...

On Mon 18 Dec 2023 at 14:12:12 (-0500), Greg Wooledge wrote: > On Mon, Dec 18, 2023 at 12:35:29PM -0600, David Wright wrote: > > OK, I tried running it (attached). What should it show? > > That the OP is confused about many things. > > > # date --help > > No shebang. But the script uses bash sy

Bookworm: Analog audio disappeared

Dear Debian community, I'm running Bookworm with XFCE; Linux version 6.1.0-15-amd64 (debian-ker...@lists.debian.org) (gcc-12 (Debian 12.2.0-14) 12.2.0, GNU ld (GNU Binutils for Debian) 2.40) and since yesterday, I cannot seem to use the analog audio card any more. The card isn't showing up i

Re: Mouse single click handling?

On Tue, Dec 19, 2023 at 11:56:29PM -0500, Stefan Monnier wrote: > >> FWIW there's a case to be made that "The Right Thing" is to try and > >> reduce consumption of resources, and prolonging the use of hardware > >> falls in this category. > > One's time is also a finite resource. > > Yup. But the

Re: Mouse single click handling?

>> FWIW there's a case to be made that "The Right Thing" is to try and >> reduce consumption of resources, and prolonging the use of hardware >> falls in this category. > One's time is also a finite resource. Yup. But the OP seemed to have at least some time/motivation to try and workout a soluti

Re: Mouse single click handling?

On Tue, 19 Dec 2023 10:43:37 -0500 Stefan Monnier wrote: > FWIW there's a case to be made that "The Right Thing" is to try and > reduce consumption of resources, and prolonging the use of hardware > falls in this category. One's time is also a finite resource. -- Does anybody read signatures a

Re: Mouse single click handling?

On Tue, 19 Dec 2023 17:01:46 +0100 (CET) local10 wrote: > I've been replacing them, I have 4-5 mice like that, they all fail > with the same defect after 6-12 months or so. So I thought perhaps > there was a way to fix them instead of buying a new one every 6-12 > months. I suggest you buy a dif

Re: Zoom on Bookworm?

On Tue, 2023-12-19 at 20:57 -0700, Charles Curley wrote: > On Tue, 19 Dec 2023 18:30:55 -0500 > Jeffrey Walton wrote: > > > Use Jitsi, if possible. You can even run your own Jitsi server, if > > desired. And it is open source. . > > You might also look at Jami, which has the

Re: Mason service on personal computer

On Tue, 19 Dec 2023 18:57:52 -0500 Daniel Rodriguez wrote: > I read on the web and it suggests that it works when one uses a > firewall in the middle of the network to administrate. I don't have a > firewall, it's a simple personal PC, but I would like to confirm if > this is a service that is wo

Re: Zoom on Bookworm?

On Tue, 19 Dec 2023 18:30:55 -0500 Jeffrey Walton wrote: > Use Jitsi, if possible. You can even run your own Jitsi server, if > desired. And it is open source. . You might also look at Jami, which has the virtue of being in the Debian repos. apt show jami-daemon -- Does an

Re: How to index mails in kmail?

On Tue, 19 Dec 2023 20:19:59 +0100 Hans wrote: > is there a way to get all mails of kmail get indexed? Try mairix. apt show mairix -- Does anybody read signatures any more? https://charlescurley.com https://charlescurley.com/blog/

Re: GRUB -- Debian overrides? Or maybe I just don't understand it well...

Mark Fletcher composed on 2023-12-20 00:28 (UTC): > I am curious to know from Debian > GRUBbers (as it were) if the behaviour I am describing in this thread > is expected... I suspect few if any regulars here spend much time with Slackware. I think a more conventional approach would be to reconf

Re: Mouse single click handling?

Fred composed on 2023-12-19 18:04 (UTC-0700): > Felix Miata wrote: >> invaluable Logitech Trackman >> Marble FX PS/2 trackball. Nothing like it has been manufactured since it was discontinued nearly 3 decades ago. > digikey.com and mouser.com both have microswitches and good service. It > w

Re: Mouse single click handling?

On 12/19/23 11:48, Felix Miata wrote: Alexander V. Makartsev composed on 2023-12-19 11:37 (UTC-0500): local10 wrote: I have several mice that went bad with the same defect: they sometimes generate two single clicks very quickly (say, within 10-20ms) instead of a single click. This is a ver

Re: GRUB -- Debian overrides? Or maybe I just don't understand it well...

On Mon, 18 Dec 2023 at 22:15, Felix Miata wrote: > > Thus, you, as admin, construct working stanzas however you like, with or > without > UUIDS, with or without device names, with or without volume LABELS, however > you > like boot to go, and they don't get changed, except by the admin - you. Th

Mason service on personal computer

Hello, I want to understand the purpose of a service that I found on my personal PC. it's mason.service, I am troubleshooting, some services and it shows the following output with systemctl status mason.service: ● mason.service - LSB: Starts the mason firewall script > Loaded: loaded (/etc/i

Re: Zoom on Bookworm?

On Tue, Dec 19, 2023 at 5:29 AM Bret Busby wrote: > > On 19/12/23 17:53, John Conover wrote: > > Does the Zoom client work on Bookworm with pipewire? > > > Are you aware of Zoom using video calls for spying on, and, collecting > personal information from, users, causing > > "The Software Freedom C

Re: Zoom on Bookworm?

On 12/19/23 02:53, John Conover wrote: Does the Zoom client work on Bookworm with pipewire? Zoom works fine on Bookworm using mainstream Logitech camera/microphone. It coexists with pipewire on the system where I use it, but does not show that as a dependency. Installing it will drag in it

Re: Zoom on Bookworm?

On Tue, Dec 19, 2023 at 3:30 PM Kent West wrote: > > > On 12/19/23 10:53, John Conover wrote: >> > Does the Zoom client work on Bookworm with pipewire? >> > >> > Thanks, >> > >> > John >> > > Yes. > > I have version 5.17.0 of the desktop client running on my sid/trixie box > at this ver

Re: Zoom on Bookworm?

On 12/19/23 10:53, John Conover wrote: > > Does the Zoom client work on Bookworm with pipewire? > > > > Thanks, > > > > John > Yes. I have version 5.17.0 of the desktop client running on my sid/trixie box at this very moment. -- Kent West<")))>< IT Support / Clien

Re: Mouse single click handling?

Dec 19, 2023, 18:41 by ale...@nanoid.net: > Been there done that. Cheap mice have cheap switches which fail sooner > than later. Gaming mice are more expensive, but they are rated for 10- > 20million clicks. Way more than than the cheap ones. In the long run > those gaming mice come cheaper. I hav

How to index mails in kmail?

Hi folks, is there a way to get all mails of kmail get indexed? As far as I read and understood, mails of kmail are not indexed by baloo. Obviously akonadi is indexing in its own way. However, none of my mailfolders are indexed and I can not get it forced to be indexed. They say, akonadi is

Re: system not updating

> Any chance you have phased updates set up? Search apt_preferences(5) > for Phased-Update-Percentage for details, and check your apt > configuration. Nope, not using that. sources.list: deb http://mirrors.linode.com/debian-security/ bookworm-security main contrib non-free deb-src http://mi

Re: system not updating

On Tue, Dec 19, 2023 at 01:37:40PM -0500, Michael Grant wrote: > On the one that's not getting updates: > > [strange /etc/apt #1939] apt policy openvpn > openvpn: > Installed: 2.6.3-1+deb12u2 > Candidate: 2.6.3-1+deb12u2 It's already upgraded. Perhaps this system has unattended-upgrades inst

Re: Mouse single click handling?

Alexander V. Makartsev composed on 2023-12-19 11:37 (UTC-0500): > local10 wrote: >> I have several mice that went bad with the same defect: they sometimes >> generate two single clicks very quickly (say, within 10-20ms) instead of a >> single click. > This is a very common problem with micro-sw

Re: system not updating

It looks like the package is already at the latest version? -- Eric S Fraga via gnus (Emacs 30.0.50 2023-06-19) on Debian 12.0

Re: Mouse single click handling?

On Tue, Dec 19, 2023 at 08:40:56PM +0200, Alexis Grigoriou wrote: > On Tue, 2023-12-19 at 17:01 +0100, local10 wrote: > > Dec 19, 2023, 15:30 by hfollm...@itcfollmann.com: > > > > I've been replacing them, I have 4-5 mice like that, they all fail > > with the same defect after 6-12 months or so. S

Re: Mouse single click handling?

On Tue, 2023-12-19 at 17:01 +0100, local10 wrote: > Dec 19, 2023, 15:30 by hfollm...@itcfollmann.com: > > I've been replacing them, I have 4-5 mice like that, they all fail > with the same defect after 6-12 months or so. So I thought perhaps > there was a way to fix them instead of buying a new on

Re: system not updating

> Go to one of the other two, and get the *name* of one of the packages > that you wish more information about. > > Then, on all three systems, run: > > apt policy my-pkg-name On the one that's not getting updates: [strange /etc/apt #1939] apt policy openvpn openvpn: Installed: 2.6.3-1+de

Re: system not updating

On Tue, Dec 19, 2023 at 12:57:36PM -0500, Michael Grant wrote: > I have 3 debian servers which are mostly the same. 2 of them if I run > apt list --upgradable, I get a list of 20 or so packages to update. > One of them only shows this: [...] > linux-image-amd64/stable-updates 6.1.67-1 amd64 [upgra

system not updating

I have 3 debian servers which are mostly the same. 2 of them if I run apt list --upgradable, I get a list of 20 or so packages to update. One of them only shows this: $ apt list --upgradable Listing... Done ca-certificates-java/stable 20230710~deb12u1 all [upgradable from: 20230620~deb12u1] linu

Re: Zoom on Bookworm?

On 12/19/23 10:53, John Conover wrote: Does the Zoom client work on Bookworm with pipewire? Thanks, John you can use zoom.us in your web browser there is less options, but it work well.

Re: Mouse single click handling?

On Tue, 19 Dec 2023 17:01:46 +0100 (CET) local10 wrote: Hello local10, > So I thought perhaps there was a way to fix them instead of buying a > new one every 6-12 months. Replace the flaky switch. If you're not happy wielding a soldering iron, get a friend to do it - assuming you know someone

Re: Mouse single click handling?

On 12/19/23 10:11, local10 wrote: Hi, I have several mice that went bad with the same defect: they sometimes generate two single clicks very quickly (say, within 10-20ms) instead of a single click. With reference to the above, is there a way or setting to force several mouse clicks within a s

Re: Mouse single click handling?

On 19.12.2023 21:41, to...@tuxteam.de wrote: On Tue, Dec 19, 2023 at 09:37:20PM +0500, Alexander V. Makartsev wrote: On 19.12.2023 20:04, local10 wrote: Hi, I have several mice that went bad with the same defect: they sometimes generate two single clicks very quickly (say, within 10-20ms) ins

Re: Mouse single click handling?

Dec 19, 2023, 16:37 by to...@tuxteam.de: > Here's someone offering a patch for xserver-xorg-input-evdev: > > https://blog.guntram.de/?p=16 > > and this is someone reporting on how to build for Ubuntu: > > > https://askubuntu.com/questions/321816/mouse-sometimes-doubleclicks-when-i-click-once >

Installing? Why debian?

Debian still wants interesteing user to take netinstall.iso or any other *iso because of Debian installation, but recommends the US-Shit GRUB. it is usefull to study Heise.de before and absolut all from Ubuntu about the GReatly Ugly and UnUseabe pile of sht B. This shit in combination with other

Re: Mouse single click handling?

On 2023-12-19, wrote: > > > But at the end, that's how most (reaonably complex) hardware works :) > Surely there must be superior and inferior mice. Maybe the OP should try another brand. Or has she? Up on the ISS, I would suppose they use touch screens, as floating mice would be a novelty.

Re: Mouse single click handling?

On Tue, Dec 19, 2023 at 09:37:20PM +0500, Alexander V. Makartsev wrote: > On 19.12.2023 20:04, local10 wrote: > > Hi, > > > > I have several mice that went bad with the same defect: they sometimes > > generate two single clicks very quickly (say, within 10-20ms) instead of a > > single click. >

Re: Mouse single click handling?

On Tue, Dec 19, 2023 at 11:31:21AM -0500, Greg Wooledge wrote: > On Tue, Dec 19, 2023 at 05:01:46PM +0100, local10 wrote: > > I've been replacing them, I have 4-5 mice like that, they all fail with the > > same defect after 6-12 months or so. So I thought perhaps there was a way to > > fix them ins

Re: Mouse single click handling?

On 19.12.2023 20:04, local10 wrote: Hi, I have several mice that went bad with the same defect: they sometimes generate two single clicks very quickly (say, within 10-20ms) instead of a single click. This is a very common problem with micro-switches inside computer mice, mechanical keyboards,

Re: Mouse single click handling?

On Tue, Dec 19, 2023 at 05:01:46PM +0100, local10 wrote: > Dec 19, 2023, 15:30 by hfollm...@itcfollmann.com: > > > I have to ask: are you currently located at a remote location like the ISS > > station or similar? > > > > No, nothing like that. > > > > Why would you go down this rabbit hole whe

Re: Mouse single click handling?

On Tue, Dec 19, 2023 at 05:01:46PM +0100, local10 wrote: > I've been replacing them, I have 4-5 mice like that, they all fail with the > same defect after 6-12 months or so. So I thought perhaps there was a way to > fix them instead of buying a new one every 6-12 months. If you can fix the hardwar

Re: Mouse single click handling?

On Tue, Dec 19, 2023 at 10:29:33AM -0500, Henning Follmann wrote: [...] > I have to ask: are you currently located at a remote location like the ISS > station or similar? [...] Bad mood, today? Cheer up -- t signature.asc Description: PGP signature

Re: Mouse single click handling?

Dec 19, 2023, 15:30 by hfollm...@itcfollmann.com: > I have to ask: are you currently located at a remote location like the ISS > station or similar? > No, nothing like that. > Why would you go down this rabbit hole when the right > thing is to replace faulty hardware especially when it is cheap

Re: Mouse single click handling?

> I have to ask: are you currently located at a remote location like the ISS > station or similar? Why would you go down this rabbit hole when the right > thing is to replace faulty hardware especially when it is cheap hardware? FWIW there's a case to be made that "The Right Thing" is to try and r

Re: Mouse single click handling?

On Tue, Dec 19, 2023 at 04:04:19PM +0100, local10 wrote: > Hi, > > I have several mice that went bad with the same defect: they sometimes > generate two single clicks very quickly (say, within 10-20ms) instead of a > single click. > > With reference to the above, is there a way or setting to fo

Re: Mouse single click handling?

On Dec 19, 2023, local10 wrote: > I have several mice that went bad with the same defect: they sometimes > generate two single clicks very quickly (say, within 10-20ms) instead > of a single click. > > With reference to the above, is there a way or setting to force > several mouse clicks within a

Mouse single click handling?

Hi, I have several mice that went bad with the same defect: they sometimes generate two single clicks very quickly (say, within 10-20ms) instead of a single click. With reference to the above, is there a way or setting to force several mouse clicks within a short period of time to be interprete

Re: Zoom on Bookworm?

On Tue, 19 Dec 2023 at 11:04, Jerome BENOIT wrote: > can we efficiently jail zoom ? Hi, my approach is to do that on my laptop by using grub to boot into various different Debian installations. Multiboot is un-fashionable, but I find it useful and versatile. Hard drives are plenty big enough to

Re: Zoom on Bookworm?

Jerome BENOIT wrote: > can we efficiently jail zoom ? It needs access to a microphone, camera, and the network. I suppose you could call that a jail, but for programs, that's pretty much everything except filesystems and root privileges. -dsr-

Re: Zoom on Bookworm?

Hi, can we efficiently jail zoom ? Jerome On 19/12/2023 11:28, Bret Busby wrote: On 19/12/23 17:53, John Conover wrote: Does the Zoom client work on Bookworm with pipewire? Thanks, John Are you aware of Zoom using video calls for spying on, and, collecting personal information

Re: Zoom on Bookworm?

On Tue, Dec 19, 2023 at 06:28:48PM +0800, Bret Busby wrote: [...] > Are you aware of Zoom using video calls for spying on, and, collecting > personal information from, users, causing Thanks for pointing that out. It can't be overstated. Cheers -- t signature.asc Description: PGP signature

Re: Zoom on Bookworm?

On 19/12/23 18:28, Bret Busby wrote: On 19/12/23 17:53, John Conover wrote: Does the Zoom client work on Bookworm with pipewire? Thanks, John Are you aware of Zoom using video calls for spying on, and, collecting personal information from, users, causing "The Software Freedom Co

Re: Zoom on Bookworm?

On 19/12/23 17:53, John Conover wrote: Does the Zoom client work on Bookworm with pipewire? Thanks, John Are you aware of Zoom using video calls for spying on, and, collecting personal information from, users, causing "The Software Freedom Conservancy (SFC) is calling on fr

Zoom on Bookworm?

Does the Zoom client work on Bookworm with pipewire? Thanks, John -- John Conover, cono...@panix.com, http://www.johncon.com/