Re: Systemd timer and sleeping laptop

2023-11-20 Thread David Wright
On Mon 20 Nov 2023 at 08:24:11 (-0500), Cindy Sue Causey wrote: [ … ] > inspired an "apt-cache search wake from" search for some reason. > > That highly generic query only received 10 results for Trixie. Maybe > there's still something in there that's useful. Two of those results, > etherwake and

mpv "some-gif-file.gif" fullscreen and quit, auto exits/kills wayland/ "logs out"

2023-11-20 Thread Zenaan Harkness
Using mpv for media - videos, music and gifs. Running mpv to view a gif, e.g: mpv /usr/share/cups/doc-root/images/wait.gif - then immediately type "L" to loop (so mpv does not exit too quickly) - then type "f" to make mpv full screen - then type "q" to quit mpv this causes wayland to die/

Re: IMAP vs POP was Thunderbird vs Claws Mail

2023-11-20 Thread David Wright
On Sat 18 Nov 2023 at 08:58:41 (-0800), Peter Ehlert wrote: > thread back from the dead: > first, thanks for all of the input and wise suggestions > > I am going crazy with Thunderbird, and Claws too. > Now Claws has a calendar add-on, did not try it but maybe it will suffice. > > My longtime web

screen lock shuts down attached HDDs, they don't start up again

2023-11-20 Thread Zenaan Harkness
Every time the screen lock kicks in, and I return to my debian gnome desktop, I press Enter, wait for 20 seconds, press Enter again, eventually the monitor wakes up and I enter the password. The desktop displays, but my external HDDs have been put to sleep, and they do not wake up. One of them is

Re: Why is bullseye-backports recommended on bookworm?

2023-11-20 Thread David Wright
On Mon 20 Nov 2023 at 11:12:03 (+0100), Vincent Lefevre wrote: > On 2023-11-18 23:43:34 -0600, David Wright wrote: > > On Sat 18 Nov 2023 at 23:33:59 (+0100), Vincent Lefevre wrote: > > > On 2023-11-18 09:18:56 -0500, Greg Wooledge wrote: > > > > The "6.1.0-" part comes from the upstream release se

Re: no smartd in logwatch

2023-11-20 Thread Max Nikulin
On 21/11/2023 04:56, fxkl4...@protonmail.com wrote: it seems my bookworm doesn't have a daemon log https://www.debian.org/releases/bookworm/amd64/release-notes/ch-information.en.html#rsyslog-creates-fewer-logfiles Chapter 5. Issues to be aware of for bookworm 5.1.9. rsyslog creates fewer log

[Debian/Bullseye] - Come far scattare il 'fallback relayhost'?

2023-11-20 Thread Ennio-Sr
Visto che è passato il mio precedente messaggio circa Majordomo, invio subito l'altra domanda, alla quale non ho trovato risposta, tanto è vero che imiei messaggi alla lista non 'passavano'. Nel file /etc/postfix/sasl_pwd avevo queste due righe: smtps.tin.it nasr.la...@tin.it:password_in_chiaro s

Re: it: perhaps? gmail issues.

2023-11-20 Thread Dan Ritter
Karen Lewellen wrote: > I personally am in the majority of those experiencing sight loss, and do not > read braille. > I also use Linux via a shell service, fear losing my years of gmail content > etc. > Add the captcha test for gmail and well. Those are reasons to use gmail via their IMAP inter

Re: it: perhaps? gmail issues.

2023-11-20 Thread Karen Lewellen
You know, I have come to appreciate that alpine is only as solid as the service providing alpine. For example my work Linux shell access is provided by dreamhost. Who uses Alpine on their workspace service. The inbox closes regularly, there is no spam filtering that allows you to move spam back

in Debian bookworm /var/log/syslog is empty

2023-11-20 Thread John Covici
Hi. I am using bookworm with latest updates and /var/log/syslog is empty, even though rsyslog is runniing. I am also using logwatch and not getting at least some responses I should get such as fail2ban. These may be separate problems, but any help on those would be appreciated. I saw a previous

Re: no smartd in logwatch

2023-11-20 Thread fxkl47BF
On Mon, 20 Nov 2023, Marco Moock wrote: > Am 20.11.2023 um 17:54:27 Uhr schrieb fxkl4...@protonmail.com: > >> 2023-11-19T07:24:45.772306-06:00 honey smartd[858]: Device: /dev/sdb >> [SAT], SMART Usage Attribute: 194 Temperature_Celsius changed from >> 111 to 112 > > Looks good. Can you check logwa

Re: it: perhaps? gmail issues.

2023-11-20 Thread Karen Lewellen
I personally am in the majority of those experiencing sight loss, and do not read braille. I also use Linux via a shell service, fear losing my years of gmail content etc. Add the captcha test for gmail and well. Kare On Mon, 20 Nov 2023, Dan Ritter wrote: Gareth Evans wrote: Alpine and Mu

Re: IMAP vs POP was Thunderbird vs Claws Mail

2023-11-20 Thread Brad Rogers
On Mon, 20 Nov 2023 10:15:56 -0600 Mike McClain wrote: Hello Mike, >A second item that's slightly off topic, I've had no luck setting >up claws-mail to send out through frontier.net and if anyone knows how >to do that I'd appreciate the claws-mail setup for it. Without knowing what you've d

Re: Get running time of child process

2023-11-20 Thread Michael Kjörling
On 20 Nov 2023 20:55 +0100, from martelli...@gmail.com (Franco Martelli): > ~$ ps -eo pid,lstart,etime | grep 1620 >1620 Mon Nov 20 16:12:47 202301:22:39 > > 1620 is the PID of the parent process, the command returns the date when the > parent process had started and the elapsed time as I

Get running time of child process

2023-11-20 Thread Franco Martelli
Hi, Get running time of child process I've Picom running on my system with these PIDs: ~$ pstree -hpan | grep picom | | | | `-grep,6199 picom |-picom,1620 -b --config /home/myuser/.config/picom.conf | `-{picom},3507 If I do: ~$ ps -eo pid,lstart,etime | grep 1620 1620 Mon Nov

Re: no smartd in logwatch

2023-11-20 Thread Marco Moock
Am 20.11.2023 um 17:54:27 Uhr schrieb fxkl4...@protonmail.com: > 2023-11-19T07:24:45.772306-06:00 honey smartd[858]: Device: /dev/sdb > [SAT], SMART Usage Attribute: 194 Temperature_Celsius changed from > 111 to 112 Looks good. Can you check logwatch for any error messages?

Re: IMAP vs POP was Thunderbird vs Claws Mail

2023-11-20 Thread Roy J. Tellason, Sr.
On Monday 20 November 2023 11:15:56 am Mike McClain wrote: > Seeing several messages complaining about fetching messages from > gmail.com I'd like to point out that gmail can be set to forward all > messages to a gmail account to another account on a different server. That's exactly what I'm doin

Re: it: perhaps? gmail issues.

2023-11-20 Thread Dan Ritter
Gareth Evans wrote: > Alpine and Mutt, amongst others, are terminal-based email clients, though I > can't vouch for their accessibility. I can't remember if or how they handle > graphics either. There are definitely people who use mutt through a braille terminal. I don't know if there are peo

Re: no smartd in logwatch

2023-11-20 Thread fxkl47BF
On Mon, 20 Nov 2023, Marco Moock wrote: > Am 20.11.2023 um 15:14:51 Uhr schrieb fxkl4...@protonmail.com: > >> if i look in /var/log/syslog i see many entries > > What is the name of the entries? > > For me it is smartd. > 2023-11-19T07:24:45.772306-06:00 honey smartd[858]: Device: /dev/sdb [SAT],

Re: it: perhaps? gmail issues.

2023-11-20 Thread Gareth Evans
> On 20 Nov 2023, at 16:23, Karen Lewellen wrote: > > ... > thinking of Debian shells or Ubuntu ones, how would you find a path to gmail > firmly? Hi Karen, Alpine and Mutt, amongst others, are terminal-based email clients, though I can't vouch for their accessibility. I can't remember

Re: IMAP vs POP was Thunderbird vs Claws Mail

2023-11-20 Thread Tixy
On Mon, 2023-11-20 at 10:15 -0600, Mike McClain wrote: > Seeing several messages complaining about fetching messages from > gmail.com I'd like to point out that gmail can be set to forward all > messages to a gmail account to another account on a different server. > I saw a message making t

Re: Temporary failure in name resolution error when I try to ping Debian 12 / DomU running on top of the Devuan 5 host os / Dom0

2023-11-20 Thread Andrew M.A. Cater
On Sun, Nov 19, 2023 at 10:54:08PM +0100, Mario Marietto wrote: > Hello. > > I'm trying to configure Debian 12 / DomU on my (Arm32) Chromebook because I > want to use the Internet and I want its IP address to be seen from > "outside" of my LAN. > > This is the tutorial that I'm following : > I

Re: it: perhaps? gmail issues.

2023-11-20 Thread Karen Lewellen
Marco, My guess is that you cannot understand as you are not personally embodying a few combination of disability experiences. There are many paths to inclusion fortified by the web interface that, to my understanding, are not equally provided by imap. Kare On Mon, 20 Nov 2023, Marco Moock w

Re: IMAP vs POP was Thunderbird vs Claws Mail

2023-11-20 Thread Mike McClain
Seeing several messages complaining about fetching messages from gmail.com I'd like to point out that gmail can be set to forward all messages to a gmail account to another account on a different server. I saw a message making that point several years ago, probably here, and seldom log into

Re: no smartd in logwatch

2023-11-20 Thread Marco Moock
Am 20.11.2023 um 15:14:51 Uhr schrieb fxkl4...@protonmail.com: > if i look in /var/log/syslog i see many entries What is the name of the entries? For me it is smartd.

Re: it: perhaps? gmail issues.

2023-11-20 Thread Marco Moock
Am 20.11.2023 um 11:22:52 Uhr schrieb Karen Lewellen: > This morning google began circulating a plan to force standard gmail > on users still keeping basic html gmail...in spite of posts on their > own accessibility list from members around the world experiencing > disabilities who still need basi

it: perhaps? gmail issues.

2023-11-20 Thread Karen Lewellen
Hi folks, Admit my hands are shaking a bit as I write. This morning google began circulating a plan to force standard gmail on users still keeping basic html gmail...in spite of posts on their own accessibility list from members around the world experiencing disabilities who still need basic ht

no smartd in logwatch

2023-11-20 Thread fxkl47BF
since i upgraded to bookworm there is no smartd section in logwatch logwatch runs every night using default settings if i run logwatch --service smartd --range Yesterday --detail high i get nothing if i look in /var/log/syslog i see many entries

Re: Systemd timer and sleeping laptop

2023-11-20 Thread Greg Wooledge
On Mon, Nov 20, 2023 at 08:24:11AM -0500, Cindy Sue Causey wrote: > Speaking as a user who has been "bitten" by this many times, finding a > way to have alarms wake the laptop back up is on my own to-do list. Well then, here's the rest of that paragraph, which I didn't include in the previous mess

Re: Systemd timer and sleeping laptop

2023-11-20 Thread Cindy Sue Causey
On 11/20/23, Greg Wooledge wrote: > On Mon, Nov 20, 2023 at 12:48:24PM +0100, Erwan David wrote: >> What happens when a timer should have been triggered at a time the >> computer >> was sleeping ? > > systemd.timer(5): > >OnCalendar= >[...] >When a system is tempora

Re: Systemd timer and sleeping laptop

2023-11-20 Thread Erwan David
Le 20/11/2023 à 13:10, Greg Wooledge a écrit : On Mon, Nov 20, 2023 at 12:48:24PM +0100, Erwan David wrote: What happens when a timer should have been triggered at a time the computer was sleeping ? systemd.timer(5): OnCalendar= [...] When a system is temporaril

Re: Systemd timer and sleeping laptop

2023-11-20 Thread Greg Wooledge
On Mon, Nov 20, 2023 at 12:48:24PM +0100, Erwan David wrote: > What happens when a timer should have been triggered at a time the computer > was sleeping ? systemd.timer(5): OnCalendar= [...] When a system is temporarily put to sleep (i.e. system suspend or

Systemd timer and sleeping laptop

2023-11-20 Thread Erwan David
Hello, What happens when a timer should have been triggered at a time the computer was sleeping ? I see that wit Persitent=true it is triggered at restart when it should have been triggered when the computer was off, but in case of sleep (or deeep sleep) the timer unit is not restarted, so

Re: debian-12.2.0-amd64-netinst.iso usb grub boot error "invalid buffer alignment"

2023-11-20 Thread Tixy
On Mon, 2023-11-20 at 11:21 +0100, to...@tuxteam.de wrote: > (and oh, it hasn't been mentioned: make super-sure some smart and > overly helpful automounter has got hold of the USB). That's a good point. I tend to use an Ubuntu live image to do things like cloning my main disk, and I've wasted quit

Re: debian-12.2.0-amd64-netinst.iso usb grub boot error "invalid buffer alignment"

2023-11-20 Thread tomas
On Mon, Nov 20, 2023 at 11:27:45AM +0100, Thomas Schmitt wrote: [...] > to...@tuxteam.de wrote: [...] > > all blocks of the block device get overwritten, > > Not all. Only as far as the new image reaches. That's how the GPT backup > can survive (xorriso-dd-target would explicitely overwrite the

Re: debian-12.2.0-amd64-netinst.iso usb grub boot error "invalid buffer alignment"

2023-11-20 Thread Thomas Schmitt
Hi, Zenaan Harkness wrote: > > > all of the grub menu options (Graphical > > > install, Graphical expert install, Expert install, etc) give 2 errors: > > > 1) "..invalid buffer alignment... " with some long number beginning with > > > minus. > > > 2) kernel fail to load error, presumably due to er

Re: debian-12.2.0-amd64-netinst.iso usb grub boot error "invalid buffer alignment"

2023-11-20 Thread tomas
On Mon, Nov 20, 2023 at 11:17:15AM +0100, to...@tuxteam.de wrote: [...] > For reference, what I do is > > sudo dd if=image.file of=/dev/sdX bs=1M oflag=sync status=progress (and oh, it hasn't been mentioned: make super-sure some smart and overly helpful automounter has got hold of the USB).

Re: debian-12.2.0-amd64-netinst.iso usb grub boot error "invalid buffer alignment"

2023-11-20 Thread tomas
On Mon, Nov 20, 2023 at 09:13:01PM +1100, Zenaan Harkness wrote: > On Monday, November 20, 2023, wrote: > > On Mon, Nov 20, 2023 at 08:59:02AM +, Tom Furie wrote: > >> Zenaan Harkness writes: > >> > >> > Attempting a fresh Debian stable install with > >> > debian-12.2.0-amd64-netinst.iso (lat

Re: debian-12.2.0-amd64-netinst.iso usb grub boot error "invalid buffer alignment"

2023-11-20 Thread Zenaan Harkness
On Monday, November 20, 2023, wrote: > On Mon, Nov 20, 2023 at 08:59:02AM +, Tom Furie wrote: >> Zenaan Harkness writes: >> >> > Attempting a fresh Debian stable install with >> > debian-12.2.0-amd64-netinst.iso (latest default amd64 boot image), `cp >> > deiban-...iso /dev/sdX; sync`, and re

Re: Why is bullseye-backports recommended on bookworm?

2023-11-20 Thread Vincent Lefevre
On 2023-11-18 23:43:34 -0600, David Wright wrote: > On Sat 18 Nov 2023 at 23:33:59 (+0100), Vincent Lefevre wrote: > > On 2023-11-18 09:18:56 -0500, Greg Wooledge wrote: > > > The "6.1.0-" part comes from the upstream release series. All the > > > kernel images containing "6.1.0-" in this section

Re: debian-12.2.0-amd64-netinst.iso usb grub boot error "invalid buffer alignment"

2023-11-20 Thread tomas
On Mon, Nov 20, 2023 at 08:59:02AM +, Tom Furie wrote: > Zenaan Harkness writes: > > > Attempting a fresh Debian stable install with > > debian-12.2.0-amd64-netinst.iso (latest default amd64 boot image), `cp > > deiban-...iso /dev/sdX; sync`, and rebooted to the usb stick with the > > You ca

Re: debian-12.2.0-amd64-netinst.iso usb grub boot error "invalid buffer alignment"

2023-11-20 Thread Tom Furie
Zenaan Harkness writes: > Attempting a fresh Debian stable install with > debian-12.2.0-amd64-netinst.iso (latest default amd64 boot image), `cp > deiban-...iso /dev/sdX; sync`, and rebooted to the usb stick with the You can't just copy the iso to the stick and get it to boot. This stick must ha

Re: debian-12.2.0-amd64-netinst.iso usb grub boot error "invalid buffer alignment"

2023-11-20 Thread Zenaan Harkness
In case it's useful, my laptop is currently running Ubuntu - I'm wondering if it's possible to do some sort of chroot from Ubuntu into the USB stick, so that I can format the laptop's SSD and begin the install process that way? Surely that has been thought of before? (That said, I ought ensure I c

debian-12.2.0-amd64-netinst.iso usb grub boot error "invalid buffer alignment"

2023-11-20 Thread Zenaan Harkness
Attempting a fresh Debian stable install with debian-12.2.0-amd64-netinst.iso (latest default amd64 boot image), `cp deiban-...iso /dev/sdX; sync`, and rebooted to the usb stick with the grub graphical screen, but all of the grub menu options (Graphical install, Graphical expert install, Expert ins