Re: Anybody familiar with dd (copy)?

2023-11-03 Thread Stefan Monnier
> I want to copy a problem-DVD to HD with DD. What kind of DVD? > Or is there any other software which can do it in an easy way? dvdbackup? > dd if=/dev/sr0 of=/tmp/dvd.bin conv=noerror oflag=direct > It does not work. Is it because the pooping unicorns it displays don't have the color you exp

Re: Anybody familiar with dd (copy)?

2023-11-03 Thread tomas
On Fri, Nov 03, 2023 at 07:37:02PM +, Schwibinger Michael wrote: > Good evening > I want to copy a problem-DVD to HD with DD. > Or is there any other software which can do it in an easy way? > > I found: > > dd if=/dev/sr0 of=/tmp/dvd.bin conv=noerror oflag=direct > > It does not work. "It

Re: How to use dmsetuup?

2023-11-03 Thread David Christensen
On 11/3/23 16:55, gene heskett wrote: On 11/3/23 17:41, David Christensen wrote: On 11/3/23 09:27, gene heskett wrote: Greetings all; As usual, the man page may as well be written in swahili. The NDE syndrome, meaning No D-d Examples. I have those 2 2T SSD's with a gpt partition table on

Re: How to use dmsetuup?

2023-11-03 Thread gene heskett
On 11/3/23 18:14, Andrew M.A. Cater wrote: On Fri, Nov 03, 2023 at 12:27:19PM -0400, gene heskett wrote: Greetings all; As usual, the man page may as well be written in swahili. The NDE syndrome, meaning No D-d Examples. I have those 2 2T SSD's with a gpt partition table on both, allocated

Re: How to use dmsetuup?

2023-11-03 Thread gene heskett
On 11/3/23 17:41, David Christensen wrote: On 11/3/23 09:27, gene heskett wrote: Greetings all; As usual, the man page may as well be written in swahili. The NDE syndrome, meaning No D-d Examples. I have those 2 2T SSD's with a gpt partition table on both, allocated as sdc1 and sdk1, for

Re: Anybody familiar with dd (copy)?

2023-11-03 Thread Keith Bainbridge
On 4/11/23 07:14, Marco M. wrote: dd if=/dev/sr0 of=/tmp/dvd.bin conv=noerror oflag=direct Is it worth trying: sudo dd if=/dev/sr0 of=/tmp/dvd.iso -- All the best Keith Bainbridge keithrbaugro...@gmail.com keithr...@gmail.com 0447 667 468 UTC +10:00

Re: Anybody familiar with dd (copy)?

2023-11-03 Thread Keith Bainbridge
On 4/11/23 07:14, Marco M. wrote: dd if=/dev/sr0 of=/tmp/dvd.bin conv=noerror oflag=direct Is it worth trying: dd if=/dev/sr0 of=/tmp/dvd.iso -- All the best Keith Bainbridge keithrbaugro...@gmail.com keithr...@gmail.com 0447 667 468 UTC +10:00

Re: Anybody familiar with dd (copy)?

2023-11-03 Thread jeremy ardley
On 4/11/23 03:37, Schwibinger Michael wrote: I found: dd if=/dev/sr0 of=/tmp/dvd.bin conv=noerror oflag=direct It does not work. What do I do wrong? the conv and oflag parameters will be causing the problem. If you want to simply copy a disk image dd if=/dev/sr0 of=/tmp/dvd.bin bs=1M

Re: Installing on Radxa Rock Pi 4B using SD-card-images

2023-11-03 Thread Stefan Monnier
> The problem with pure Debian is it will likely not ever support the extra > goodies on some SBC. In my case the NPU and GPU which are > manufacturer specific. AFAIK for the GPU the situation is usually not that bad (many/most ARM SoCs use Mali GPUs nowadays and these are fairly well supported un

Re: How to use dmsetuup?

2023-11-03 Thread Andrew M.A. Cater
On Fri, Nov 03, 2023 at 12:27:19PM -0400, gene heskett wrote: > Greetings all; > As usual, the man page may as well be written in swahili. The NDE syndrome, > meaning No D-d Examples. > > I have those 2 2T SSD's with a gpt partition table on both, allocated as > sdc1 and sdk1, formatted to ext

Re: Anybody familiar with dd (copy)?

2023-11-03 Thread David Christensen
On 11/3/23 12:37, Schwibinger Michael wrote: Good evening I want to copy a problem-DVD to HD with DD. Or is there any other software which can do it in an easy way? I found: dd if=/dev/sr0 of=/tmp/dvd.bin conv=noerror oflag=direct It does not work. What do I do wrong? Regards Sophie Pleas

Re: How to use dmsetuup?

2023-11-03 Thread David Christensen
On 11/3/23 09:27, gene heskett wrote: Greetings all; As usual, the man page may as well be written in swahili. The NDE syndrome, meaning No D-d Examples. I have those 2 2T SSD's with a gpt partition table on both, allocated as sdc1 and sdk1, formatted to ext4, named and labeled as lvm1 an

Re: Installing on Radxa Rock Pi 4B using SD-card-images

2023-11-03 Thread jeremy ardley
On 4/11/23 00:22, Daniel Gnoutcheff wrote: The best answer is if the board has been supported for a while by Armbian then that is probably a better choice than a less well supported/documented manufacturer specific build of Debian. Oh, I should clarify.  By "official Debian binaries and image

Re: Anybody familiar with dd (copy)?

2023-11-03 Thread Arno Lehmann
Hi, Am 03.11.2023 um 20:37 schrieb Schwibinger Michael: Good evening I want to copy a problem-DVD to HD with DD. Or is there any other software which can do it in an easy way? Is this a vide DVD or data? I found: dd if=/dev/sr0 of=/tmp/dvd.bin conv=noerror oflag=direct It does not work.

Re: Anybody familiar with dd (copy)?

2023-11-03 Thread Marco M.
Am 03.11.2023 um 19:37:02 Uhr schrieb Schwibinger Michael: > I want to copy a problem-DVD to HD with DD. Some programs are listed here, maybe translate them: https://wiki.ubuntuusers.de/DVDs_rippen/ https://wiki.ubuntuusers.de/DVDs_manuell_rippen/ > Or is there any other software which can do it

Anybody familiar with dd (copy)?

2023-11-03 Thread Schwibinger Michael
Good evening I want to copy a problem-DVD to HD with DD. Or is there any other software which can do it in an easy way? I found: dd if=/dev/sr0 of=/tmp/dvd.bin conv=noerror oflag=direct It does not work. What do I do wrong? Regards Sophie

Re: On folders vs. directories and history

2023-11-03 Thread Thomas Schmitt
Hi, Nicolas George wrote: > > Ear, ear! Curt wrote: > An ear c'est une oreille. C'est probablement because les frenchais ne cannot pas prononcer le "H". Have a nice day :) Thomas

Re: All the unicorns are dead on Linux (was: How to compare contents of two folders against third one?)

2023-11-03 Thread Nicolas George
Jeffrey Walton (12023-11-03): > If you ask folks like Brian Kernighan and Rob Pike, they will tell you > all the unicorns are dead on Linux because everything is _not_ a file. They might tell you that, but that is wrong nonetheless: they fumbled the “everything is a file” from the start. In origi

Re: Installing on Radxa Rock Pi 4B using SD-card-images

2023-11-03 Thread Stefan Monnier
> Oh, I should clarify. By "official Debian binaries and images" I meant > to say "pure" or "mainline" Debian as distributed from *.debian.org. Yes, > a bespoke "Debian" image from the hardware vendor is, indeed, out of the > question. ARMbian is better, but I know and deeply trust the Debian pro

Re: All the unicorns are dead on Linux (was: How to compare contents of two folders against third one?)

2023-11-03 Thread tomas
On Fri, Nov 03, 2023 at 11:57:59AM -0400, Jeffrey Walton wrote: > On Wed, Nov 1, 2023 at 1:56 PM wrote: [...] > > I concur with Nicolas: every time you say "folder", a unicorn dies. > > If you ask folks like Brian Kernighan and Rob Pike, they will tell you > all the unicorns are dead on Linux b

Re: [OFFTOPIC] On folders vs. directories and history [was: how to compare...]

2023-11-03 Thread tomas
On Fri, Nov 03, 2023 at 11:33:55AM -0400, Stefan Monnier wrote: > > Regarding Tomas' assertion, I'm not sure I buy into the argument > > regarding dumbing-down [...] > I guess in a sense what's going on here is that these words act as kinds > of "dog whistle". I don't think the argument that "dir

Re: On folders vs. directories and history [was: how to compare...]

2023-11-03 Thread tomas
On Fri, Nov 03, 2023 at 03:46:38PM +0100, Loris Bennett wrote: > Nicolas George writes: > > > to...@tuxteam.de (12023-11-03): > >> The other is related: folder has become the culture of those > >> who want to "sell you knowledge", i.e. of those whose business > >> model is based on keeping you du

Re: On folders vs. directories and history [was: how to compare...]

2023-11-03 Thread Curt
On 2023-11-03, Nicolas George wrote: > to...@tuxteam.de (12023-11-03): >> The other is related: folder has become the culture of those >> who want to "sell you knowledge", i.e. of those whose business >> model is based on keeping you dumb. > > Ear, ear! https://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hear,_hear A

Re: How to use dmsetuup?

2023-11-03 Thread Stefan Monnier
gene heskett [2023-11-03 12:27:19] wrote: > Greetings all; > As usual, the man page may as well be written in swahili. The NDE syndrome, > meaning No D-d Examples. I don't think `dmsetup` is what you need anyway. > I have those 2 2T SSD's with a gpt partition table on both, allocated as > sdc

dropbox issues

2023-11-03 Thread Bob Crochelt
Hi again: Debian 12, optiplex 7020 desktop PC. Dropbox status shows "Up to Date" but top shows Dropbox running at ~200% CPU usage, 14% memory. Have removed and reinstalled Dropbox, and removed the largest folder shared on Dropbox no change. Have disabled expressvpn with no change. Any tho

Re: How to use dmsetuup?

2023-11-03 Thread gene heskett
On 11/3/23 12:27, gene heskett wrote: Greetings all; As usual, the man page may as well be written in swahili. The NDE syndrome, meaning No D-d Examples. I have those 2 2T SSD's with a gpt partition table on both, allocated as sdc1 and sdk1, formatted to ext4, named and labeled as lvm1 an

Re: Installing on Radxa Rock Pi 4B using SD-card-images

2023-11-03 Thread Daniel Gnoutcheff
The best answer is if the board has been supported for a while by Armbian then that is probably a better choice than a less well supported/documented manufacturer specific build of Debian. Oh, I should clarify. By "official Debian binaries and images" I meant to say "pure" or "mainline" Debian

Re: On folders vs. directories and history [was: how to compare...]

2023-11-03 Thread gene heskett
On 11/3/23 11:17, Nicolas George wrote: Loris Bennett (12023-11-03): If I think of the main non-digital directory I have dealt with in my life it was a telephone directory. That also did not contain further directories within itself. On the other hand, scholarly articles usually contain a bib

How to use dmsetuup?

2023-11-03 Thread gene heskett
Greetings all; As usual, the man page may as well be written in swahili. The NDE syndrome, meaning No D-d Examples. I have those 2 2T SSD's with a gpt partition table on both, allocated as sdc1 and sdk1, formatted to ext4, named and labeled as lvm1 and lvm2. Temp mounted as sdc1 and sdk1

All the unicorns are dead on Linux (was: How to compare contents of two folders against third one?)

2023-11-03 Thread Jeffrey Walton
On Wed, Nov 1, 2023 at 1:56 PM wrote: > > On Wed, Nov 01, 2023 at 08:01:19PM +0500, Alexander V. Makartsev wrote: > > Hello everyone. > > > > I have a "/source-folder/" which contains very large tree of folders and > > files. > > I've manually copied a set of folders and files from it to a > > "/d

Re: Alternative to NetworkManager on Debian 12

2023-11-03 Thread Max Nikulin
On 03/11/2023 00:58, to...@tuxteam.de wrote: On Thu, Nov 02, 2023 at 10:41:06PM +0700, Max Nikulin wrote: I am a bit surprised by a use case when temporary unplugging of cable should be ignored. I have not tested it, but I hope, a setting, I have noticed in docs, allows NetworkManager to handle

Re: [OFFTOPIC] On folders vs. directories and history [was: how to compare...]

2023-11-03 Thread Stefan Monnier
> Regarding Tomas' assertion, I'm not sure I buy into the argument > regarding dumbing-down. I am presume it does go on, but I don't really > think that one is stepping on to Big Tech's slippery slope to stupidity > by calling a 'directory' a 'folder' any more one would be by calling a > pointing

Re: On folders vs. directories and history [was: how to compare...]

2023-11-03 Thread Nicolas George
Loris Bennett (12023-11-03): > If I think of the main non-digital directory I have dealt with in my > life it was a telephone directory. That also did not contain further > directories within itself. On the other hand, scholarly articles usually contain a bibliography section, i.e. a directory of

Re: On folders vs. directories and history [was: how to compare...]

2023-11-03 Thread Loris Bennett
Nicolas George writes: > to...@tuxteam.de (12023-11-03): >> The other is related: folder has become the culture of those >> who want to "sell you knowledge", i.e. of those whose business >> model is based on keeping you dumb. > > Ear, ear! > > Also, that metaphor is easy, but it is very shaky. In

Re: RANTING apt update does not work

2023-11-03 Thread Martin
On Thu, Nov 02, 2023 at 02:14:17PM -0500, David Wright wrote: > > I suspect this may be an X-Y problem. The OP appears to already have > a working sid, but it's on a disk that may be failing. > > https://lists.debian.org/debian-user/2023/11/msg00013.html > > The idea of upgrading an installati

Re: How to compare one folder to one directory

2023-11-03 Thread Nicolas George
Alexander V. Makartsev (12023-11-03): > Personally, I don't see the problem, because I was talking to people not > Unix user interfaces. You talk TO people ABOUT Unix user interface. -- Nicolas George

Re: How to compare one folder to one directory

2023-11-03 Thread Alexander V. Makartsev
On 03.11.2023 08:17, Greg Wooledge wrote: Calling these things "folders" discards all of this history and knowledge. But the real problem with calling them "folders" is that it doesn't match the Unix user interface. Personally, I don't see the problem, because I was talking to people not Unix u

Re: How to compare one folder to one directory

2023-11-03 Thread Mihamina RKTMB
On 11/3/23 06:17, Greg Wooledge wrote: On Thu, Nov 02, 2023 at 12:16:54PM -0500, John Hasler wrote: This was in the 1970s when the graphical UI was being invented. The idea was that the screen was to look like an actual desktop which might have actual file folders on it. Every icon was suppo

Re: On folders vs. directories and history [was: how to compare...]

2023-11-03 Thread tomas
On Fri, Nov 03, 2023 at 08:46:36AM +0100, Nicolas George wrote: > to...@tuxteam.de (12023-11-03): > > The other is related: folder has become the culture of those > > who want to "sell you knowledge", i.e. of those whose business > > model is based on keeping you dumb. > > Ear, ear! > > Also, tha

Re: On folders vs. directories and history [was: how to compare...]

2023-11-03 Thread Nicolas George
to...@tuxteam.de (12023-11-03): > The other is related: folder has become the culture of those > who want to "sell you knowledge", i.e. of those whose business > model is based on keeping you dumb. Ear, ear! Also, that metaphor is easy, but it is very shaky. In the physical world, I have *sometim