Re: bookworm and network connections

2023-09-01 Thread D. R. Evans
David Wright wrote on 9/1/23 19:40: I don't see that the OP is doing anything complicated that requires rc.local to run at all. They just need to distinguish between the two Correct. I was simply trying to workaround the problem by putting commands into rc.local that are known to work when I

Re: How to install the kernel 5.4.14 (source and headers) packages on Debian buster.

2023-09-01 Thread Max Nikulin
On 02/09/2023 04:15, Mario Marietto wrote: I've got a crazy idea : I see that Ubuntu has a 5.4 kernel source and header package. Is there a method or tool to convert these packages to debian packages so that I can use them on Debian ? Kernel image from one project and headers+sources from anot

Re: Sleep: out of control

2023-09-01 Thread Max Nikulin
On 01/09/2023 18:08, Tom Browder wrote: When switching the KVM between the Win and Deb hosts, I could see the mouse was not getting power (no sensor light) nor was the keyboard or monitor screen. So that is probably why I could not wake up the Debian PC by stirring the mouse or hitting a key.

Re: bookworm and network connections

2023-09-01 Thread Greg Wooledge
On Fri, Sep 01, 2023 at 08:40:43PM -0500, David Wright wrote: > I know you have a low opinion of allow-hotplug, but I can't see that > auto/allow-auto is necessarily better for the naive user that doesn't > install a DE for whatever reason. > > AIUI auto gives you a one-shot attempt to start the n

Re: bookworm and network connections

2023-09-01 Thread David Wright
On Fri 01 Sep 2023 at 17:38:48 (-0400), Greg Wooledge wrote: > On Fri, Sep 01, 2023 at 03:18:47PM -0600, D. R. Evans wrote: > > [[ I speculate wildly that systemd or something doesn't complete configuring > > the network until after rc.local has finished processing (I know that > > rc.local execute

Re: bookworm and network connections

2023-09-01 Thread D. R. Evans
Michel Verdier wrote on 9/1/23 15:06: If you want old names put in /etc/default/grub GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX="net.ifnames=0" Nice to know, but I'll stay with the new names, I think. network manager is good for changing networks. For a server the network must not change normally. So you could p

Re: bookworm and network connections

2023-09-01 Thread D. R. Evans
Andy Smith wrote on 9/1/23 16:32: Your situation appears to have been triggered by the renaming of your network interfaces (which was warned about in the release These weird names like "Wired connection enp11s0(eth0)" were names that the debian installer came up with several OS versions ago (

Re: bookworm and network connections

2023-09-01 Thread Greg Wooledge
On Fri, Sep 01, 2023 at 04:16:46PM -0600, D. R. Evans wrote: > Greg Wooledge wrote on 9/1/23 15:38: > > > In particular, when using /etc/network/interfaces, only interfaces that > > are marked as "auto" need to be up, to satisfy this criterion. An > > I don't think that debian has used used /etc

Re: bookworm and network connections

2023-09-01 Thread Andy Smith
Hello, On Fri, Sep 01, 2023 at 04:16:46PM -0600, D. R. Evans wrote: > I don't think that debian has used used /etc/network/interfaces for a while, > at least not by default. All of my Debian servers (and desktops) have an /etc/network/interfaces file and ifupdown installed. It depends upon choice

Re: bookworm and network connections

2023-09-01 Thread D. R. Evans
Greg Wooledge wrote on 9/1/23 15:38: In particular, when using /etc/network/interfaces, only interfaces that are marked as "auto" need to be up, to satisfy this criterion. An I don't think that debian has used used /etc/network/interfaces for a while, at least not by default. Certainly there

Re: How to install the kernel 5.4.14 (source and headers) packages on Debian buster.

2023-09-01 Thread Andrew M.A. Cater
On Fri, Sep 01, 2023 at 11:15:38PM +0200, Mario Marietto wrote: > Hello. > > I've got a crazy idea : I see that Ubuntu has a 5.4 kernel source and > header package. Is there a method or tool to convert these packages to > debian packages so that I can use them on Debian ? That's because I prefer >

Re: How to install the kernel 5.4.14 (source and headers) packages on Debian buster.

2023-09-01 Thread Greg Wooledge
On Fri, Sep 01, 2023 at 11:15:38PM +0200, Mario Marietto wrote: > I've got a crazy idea : I see that Ubuntu has a 5.4 kernel source and > header package. Is there a method or tool to convert these packages to > debian packages so that I can use them on Debian ? That's because I prefer > Debian over

Re: bookworm and network connections

2023-09-01 Thread Greg Wooledge
On Fri, Sep 01, 2023 at 03:18:47PM -0600, D. R. Evans wrote: > [[ I speculate wildly that systemd or something doesn't complete configuring > the network until after rc.local has finished processing (I know that > rc.local executes late in the boot process, but I don't think that that > means that

Re: I uninstalled OpenMediaVault (because totally overkill for me) and replaced it with borgbackup and rsyncq

2023-09-01 Thread Linux-Fan
Michel Verdier writes: On 2023-09-01, Default User wrote: > Yes, it does require considerable space (no data de-duplication), and > the rsync of the backup drives does take considerable time. But to me, > it is worth it, to avoid the methodological equivalent of "vendor lock- > in". You must

Re: bookworm and network connections

2023-09-01 Thread D. R. Evans
Thank you for your thoughts... As people are addressing the rc.local issue (I now realise that I shouldn't have mentioned it :-) )... I just checked, and: 1. rc.local is being executed; 2. it is executing the nmcli commands; 3. the commands are successful. But it remains true that when the bo

Re: How to install the kernel 5.4.14 (source and headers) packages on Debian buster.

2023-09-01 Thread Mario Marietto
Hello. I've got a crazy idea : I see that Ubuntu has a 5.4 kernel source and header package. Is there a method or tool to convert these packages to debian packages so that I can use them on Debian ? That's because I prefer Debian over Ubuntu. Thanks. On Fri, Sep 1, 2023 at 10:25 PM Andrew M.A. C

Re: I uninstalled OpenMediaVault (because totally overkill for me) and replaced it with borgbackup and rsyncq

2023-09-01 Thread Linux-Fan
Default User writes: On Fri, 2023-09-01 at 07:25 -0500, John Hasler wrote: > Jason writes: > > Or how does your backup look like? See https://lists.debian.org/debian-user/2019/11/msg00073.html and https://lists.debian.org/debian-user/2019/11/msg00420.html > Just rsync. Sorry, I just couldn

Re: bookworm and network connections

2023-09-01 Thread Michel Verdier
On 2023-09-01, D. R. Evans wrote: > The machine has two ethernet ports, which used to be eth0 and eth1 in the old > days, but are now magically called "Wired connection enp11s0(eth0)" and "Wired > connection enp12s0(eth1)". If you want old names put in /etc/default/grub GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX="net.i

Re: bookworm and network connections

2023-09-01 Thread The Wanderer
On 2023-09-01 at 16:50, Greg Wooledge wrote: > On Fri, Sep 01, 2023 at 08:32:40PM +, Michael Kjörling wrote: > >> I don't think /etc/rc.local is executed by default on modern Debian >> systems. Have you checked to make sure that rc-local.service is >> enabled and actually gets started during b

Re: bookworm and network connections

2023-09-01 Thread Greg Wooledge
On Fri, Sep 01, 2023 at 08:32:40PM +, Michael Kjörling wrote: > I don't think /etc/rc.local is executed by default on modern Debian > systems. Have you checked to make sure that rc-local.service is > enabled and actually gets started during boot? Is there anything > relevant in the logs for tha

Re: bookworm and network connections

2023-09-01 Thread Michael Kjörling
On 1 Sep 2023 14:02 -0600, from doc.ev...@gmail.com (D. R. Evans): > Well, great, sort-of, except that every time I reboot I have to manually > issue the two above nmcli commands to take down and bring back up enp11s. > > I tried putting them in my rc.local file, but that had no effect (for > reas

Re: bookworm and network connections

2023-09-01 Thread Brad Rogers
On Fri, 1 Sep 2023 14:02:31 -0600 "D. R. Evans" wrote: Hello D., >So how do I fix this so that the networking is configured to work >correctly during the boot sequence, as it has always done before? I had changing ethernet port issues and found that creating /etc/systemd/network/99-default.link

bookworm and network connections

2023-09-01 Thread D. R. Evans
I just upgraded my main server to bookworm, having successfully, over the course of the past couple of months, methodically upgraded my other machines with only minor issues. Unfortunately, the upgrade of the server, the most important of my machines, has not been smooth at all, even though no

Re: I uninstalled OpenMediaVault (because totally overkill for me) and replaced it with borgbackup and rsyncq

2023-09-01 Thread Default User
On Fri, 2023-09-01 at 07:25 -0500, John Hasler wrote: > Jason writes: > > Or how does your backup look like? > > Just rsync. Sorry, I just couldn't resist chiming in here. I have never used OpenMediaVault. I HAVE used a number of other backup methodologies, including Borgbackup, for which I

Re: How to install the kernel 5.4.14 (source and headers) packages on Debian buster.

2023-09-01 Thread Andrew M.A. Cater
On Fri, Sep 01, 2023 at 01:16:31PM +0200, Mario Marietto wrote: > Hello to everyone. > > I've just installed Debian Buster on my ARM Chromebook,using this image : > > https://github.com/hexdump0815/imagebuilder/releases?page=12 > > He says that the image is based on the kernel 5.4 and it is. Inf

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2023-09-01 Thread Andrew M.A. Cater
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Re: Problem with libreoffice and localisation - LO hangs

2023-09-01 Thread Brad Rogers
On Fri, 01 Sep 2023 14:57:29 +0200 Hans wrote: Hello Hans, >thanks for the fast response. Yes, you are correct, my information was >not much. No probs. >This issue appeared suddenly from one day to another and he swore, he >had nothing done except shutting down and starting. When someone swea

Re: Problem with libreoffice and localisation - LO hangs

2023-09-01 Thread Christoph Brinkhaus
Am Fri, Sep 01, 2023 at 02:57:29PM +0200 schrieb Hans: Hello Hans, [...] > It might be, that I installed the localisation from 7.5 on LO-7.4, as both > are > in the repo. At the moment, I can not recheck it. Just as reference: I run Bookworm and I have installed the metapackage. I have no iss

Re: Problem with libreoffice and localisation - LO hangs

2023-09-01 Thread Hans
Hi Brad, thanks for the fast response. Yes, you are correct, my information was not much. The computer is one of my customers, so I have no access to it at the moment. However, it is running debian/stable, amd64. This issue appeared suddenly from one day to another and he swore, he had noth

Re: Problem with libreoffice and localisation - LO hangs

2023-09-01 Thread Brad Rogers
On Fri, 01 Sep 2023 13:51:35 +0200 Hans wrote: Hello Hans, >I also discovered, that the installation of libreoffice-l10n-de will >deinstall several lib With little in the way of information from you, we can only guess, but the first thing to check is that the localisation package is the same v

Re: I uninstalled OpenMediaVault (because totally overkill for me) and replaced it with borgbackup and rsyncq

2023-09-01 Thread John Hasler
Jason writes: > Or how does your backup look like? Just rsync. -- John Hasler j...@sugarbit.com Elmwood, WI USA

Re: Sleep: out of control

2023-09-01 Thread Tom Browder
On Fri, Sep 1, 2023 at 06:08 Tom Browder wrote: My conclusion: I need to find out which sleep modes turn off power to the > external input devices. > I forgot to mention that my problem child is all SSD, no moving parts (from SilentPC). -Tom

Problem with libreoffice and localisation - LO hangs

2023-09-01 Thread Hans
Dear list, I discovered a strange problem with libreofffice. When I install libreoffice (apt install libreoffice) everything works fine. But as soon as I have installed the localisation file (apt install libreoffice- l10n-de) Libreofffice hangs at start for several minutes. I purged all LO-ins

How to install the kernel 5.4.14 (source and headers) packages on Debian buster.

2023-09-01 Thread Mario Marietto
Hello to everyone. I've just installed Debian Buster on my ARM Chromebook,using this image : https://github.com/hexdump0815/imagebuilder/releases?page=12 He says that the image is based on the kernel 5.4 and it is. Infact the default running kernel is 5.4.14. But for the project that I'm working

Re: Sleep: out of control

2023-09-01 Thread Tom Browder
On Fri, Sep 1, 2023 at 01:15 The Wanderer wrote: > On 2023-08-31 at 13:03, zithro wrote: ... Tom, does your version of that file not include a comment with that same > information? Yes, and they are uncommented and set to 'no'. So far all seems to be working. Now I need to study and understa

Re: I uninstalled OpenMediaVault (because totally overkill for me) and replaced it with borgbackup and rsync

2023-09-01 Thread Manphiz
Jason writes: > Hi > > I was a user of OpenMediaVault for several years. I even donated money to the > developer. > > But very provocatively OpenMediaVault is bloatware, way too big. The only > thing > I need is a reliable backup. > > I had pure Debian (minimal installation, very few packages) i

Re: Emacsclient bug in sid

2023-09-01 Thread Michel Verdier
On 2023-08-31, Charles Curley wrote: > You need an emacs process running in order to use emacsclient. It need > not be a daemon. -a="" will launch a daemon process if there isn't a > process already running, daemon or otherwise. emacs is enough if you put start-server in init file. Else it don't

Fix for bug in r8168-dkms with kernel 6.4.0.2-amd64

2023-09-01 Thread Sam Varghese
I am posting this to the list in the hope that it will help someone who has encountered the same issue I did. I am running the testing stream and a few days back, during a regular update, I encountered a kernel panic. The error appeared to be in the r8168-dkms package. I searched around for a