Re: Alpine was: UNUBSCRIBE

2023-08-12 Thread fjd
On Sat, 12 Aug 2023, Bret Busby wrote: On 12/8/23 10:13, fjd wrote: On Sat, 12 Aug 2023, Bret Busby wrote: I am an alpine user (and pine before alpine), and I did not know of this functionality. me too; me neither. Do you or anyone else know of a list or online forum where one can discuss

Re: Alpine was: UNUBSCRIBE

2023-08-12 Thread fjd
On Sat, 12 Aug 2023, Bret Busby wrote: On 12/8/23 10:13, fjd wrote: On Sat, 12 Aug 2023, Bret Busby wrote: I am an alpine user (and pine before alpine), and I did not know of this functionality. me too; me neither. Do you or anyone else know of a list or online forum where one can discuss

Re: List administrators - request for intervention - was - Re: Mailing list unsubscription requests and identificatio

2023-08-12 Thread Andy Smith
Hello, On Sun, Aug 13, 2023 at 12:12:49AM +, davidson wrote: > The foregoing demonstration is meant to show how, using alpine's > threaded mode, I minimise my irritation with threads that I find > irrelevant to my interests Unfortunately no matter how advanced your MUA is, it doesn't help aga

Sorting messages by threads - was - Re: List administrators - request for intervention

2023-08-12 Thread Bret Busby
On 13/8/23 08:12, davidson wrote: On Sat, 12 Aug 2023 Bret Busby wrote: [snip] Hello. Could the List administrators please shut down both this thread and the "unubscribe" thread? In alpine, I have a filter rule that moves all debian-user messages from my inbox to a dedicated folder. Here is

Re: List administrators - request for intervention - was - Re: Mailing list unsubscription requests and identificatio

2023-08-12 Thread Jeffrey Walton
On Sat, Aug 12, 2023 at 10:18 AM Andrew M.A. Cater wrote: > [...] > No one of us is perfect: the temptation to just add a bit more when you > are irritated or something is wrong on the internet can be very strong. > > Obligatory xkcd cartoon: https://xkcd.com/386 Yeah, some threads refuse to die.

Re: List administrators - request for intervention - was - Re: Mailing list unsubscription requests and identificatio

2023-08-12 Thread davidson
On Sun, 13 Aug 2023 davidson wrote: > On Sat, 12 Aug 2023 Bret Busby wrote: > [snip] >> Hello. >> >> Could the List administrators please shut down both this thread and the >> "unubscribe" thread? > > In alpine, I have a filter rule that moves all debian-user messages > from my inbox to a dedicat

Re: List administrators - request for intervention - was - Re: Mailing list unsubscription requests and identificatio

2023-08-12 Thread davidson
On Sat, 12 Aug 2023 Bret Busby wrote: [snip] Hello. Could the List administrators please shut down both this thread and the "unubscribe" thread? In alpine, I have a filter rule that moves all debian-user messages from my inbox to a dedicated folder. Here is a sample of what I see in alpine,

Re: Alpine was: UNUBSCRIBE

2023-08-12 Thread David Wright
On Sun 13 Aug 2023 at 02:41:30 (+0800), Bret Busby wrote: > My apology - I failed to see the reference to alpine linux, and, due > to scurrilous actions, the first result in searching, using > duckduckgo, on the combination of > alpine email application mailing list > is the URL for the disreputab

Re: Mailing list unsubscription requests and identificatio

2023-08-12 Thread Jeffrey Walton
On Fri, Aug 11, 2023 at 11:17 PM David Wright wrote: > > On Fri 11 Aug 2023 at 17:39:28 (-0400), gene heskett wrote: > > On 8/11/23 14:25, to...@tuxteam.de wrote: > > > On Fri, Aug 11, 2023 at 10:59:14AM -0400, gene heskett wrote: > > > > > > [...] > > > > > > > The recommended procedure usually w

Re: Was: setting up network q, now no x

2023-08-12 Thread Greg Wooledge
On Sat, Aug 12, 2023 at 06:37:30PM -0400, gene heskett wrote: > I need X running so I can use firefox to go get and build the rest of the > software I am building this thing to run. Then why on earth are you installing a full Desktop Environment? If you need to use Firefox to obtain files and the

Re (2): Time stamps on sessions on a DVD backup.

2023-08-12 Thread peter
From: "Thomas Schmitt" Date: Sun, 13 Aug 2023 00:08:23 +0200 > You would have to load each session and inquire it: OK, thanks. > Having an id for the backup script makes it possible to ensure that the > script is not applied to the medium of a different backup script. Good, thanks,

Was: setting up network q, now no x

2023-08-12 Thread gene heskett
On 8/12/23 17:32, Greg Wooledge wrote: On Sat, Aug 12, 2023 at 04:01:49PM -0400, gene heskett wrote: Step one: determine the NAME of your ethernet interface. eth0 Step two: edit /etc/network/interfaces to bring up this interface with your desired IP address, netmask, and gateway. If there'

Re: Cannot install Debian 12.1 on VirtualBox

2023-08-12 Thread Piscium
On Sat, 12 Aug 2023 at 17:40, wrote: > I see there that he has two possible solutions: > > - Install 11, then upgrade to 12, which option you don't care for. > > - Install in legacy-boot mode, rather than in UEFI mode. > > Is the second option viable for you? That was it, EFI! Normally when I

Re: Time stamps on sessions on a DVD backup.

2023-08-12 Thread Thomas Schmitt
Hi, pe...@easthope.ca wrote: > Session time stamps would help when recovering from a > storage failure. Eg. > > DateTOC layout : Idx , sbsector , Size , Volume Id > 2023-07-23 ISO session : 1 , 0 ,678303s , ISOIMAGE > 2023-07-29 ISO session : 2 ,716368 ,

Re: setting up network with a hosts file, but your way

2023-08-12 Thread Greg Wooledge
On Sat, Aug 12, 2023 at 04:01:49PM -0400, gene heskett wrote: > > Step one: determine the NAME of your ethernet interface. > > eth0 > > > > Step two: edit /etc/network/interfaces to bring up this interface with > > your desired IP address, netmask, and gateway. If there's a running > > DHCP cli

Time stamps on sessions on a DVD backup.

2023-08-12 Thread peter
Hello again, Here a session of a backup archive is written to a DVD. xorriso -for_backup -dev /dev/sr0 \ -update_r . / \ -commit \ -toc -check_md5 failure -- \ -eject all This command gives the contents of a DVD. xorriso -dev /dev/sr0 -toc TOC layout : Idx , sbsector , Size

Re: setting up network with a hosts file, but your way

2023-08-12 Thread gene heskett
On 8/12/23 15:27, Greg Wooledge wrote: On Sat, Aug 12, 2023 at 02:49:25PM -0400, gene heskett wrote: I am bringing up a new bananapi-m5, an arm64 device. You don't like my way, and have made that boringly plain. Gene. Please stop saying things like this. The use of traditional static address

Re: setting up network with a hosts file, but your way

2023-08-12 Thread gene heskett
On 8/12/23 15:27, Greg Wooledge wrote: On Sat, Aug 12, 2023 at 02:49:25PM -0400, gene heskett wrote: I am bringing up a new bananapi-m5, an arm64 device. You don't like my way, and have made that boringly plain. Gene. Please stop saying things like this. The use of traditional static address

Re: setting up network with a hosts file, but your way

2023-08-12 Thread Greg Wooledge
On Sat, Aug 12, 2023 at 02:49:25PM -0400, gene heskett wrote: > I am bringing up a new bananapi-m5, an arm64 device. You don't like my way, > and have made that boringly plain. Gene. Please stop saying things like this. The use of traditional static addressing without DNS is a common and well-su

Re: Mailing list unsubscription requests and identificatio

2023-08-12 Thread gene heskett
On 8/12/23 12:18, Curt wrote: On 2023-08-12, Larry Martell wrote: Larry didn't write the next quote, he was echoing the OP which I snipped. Who is a random person to you? You're new to this list, so you have no clue who is who here. Larry did write this: Gene may be many things, bu

Re: Sound loses my analog speakers after suspend, and power settings don't affect monitor poweroff

2023-08-12 Thread Carl Fink
On 8/12/23 01:05, Marco wrote: sudo dmesg | grep snd So I did that, and whether or not my analog audio was recognized, the output was: [    4.199233] snd_pci_acp6x :66:00.5: enabling device ( -> 0002) [    4.241643] snd_hda_intel :66:00.1: enabling device ( -> 0002) [    4.2

setting up network with a hosts file, but your way

2023-08-12 Thread gene heskett
I am bringing up a new bananapi-m5, an arm64 device. You don't like my way, and have made that boringly plain. It is booted to a text screen as root, first boot. Already edited the /etc/hostname, and /etc/hosts files. The next thing from what I see, is a total lack of a route address which s/

Re: Alpine was: UNUBSCRIBE

2023-08-12 Thread Bret Busby
On 12/8/23 23:06, Greg Wooledge wrote: On Sat, Aug 12, 2023 at 10:49:19AM -0400, Jeffrey Walton wrote: On Fri, Aug 11, 2023 at 11:08 PM fjd wrote: On Sat, 12 Aug 2023, Bret Busby wrote: I am an alpine user (and pine before alpine), and I did not know of this functionality. me too; me neit

Re: Cannot install Debian 12.1 on VirtualBox

2023-08-12 Thread westk
On Sat, 2023-08-12 at 14:02 +0100, Piscium wrote: > On Sat, 12 Aug 2023 at 13:35, wrote: > > > I notice on the video you provided a reference to not finding a > > virtual > > core keyboard, in addition to the xf86SetGamma message. Maybe > > there's > > something in the keyboard and/or USB setting

Re: Mailing list unsubscription requests and identificatio

2023-08-12 Thread Greg Wooledge
On Sat, Aug 12, 2023 at 04:17:33PM -, Curt wrote: > But what I want to know is: if you misspell "unsubscribe" in your > subscription cancellation email to the appropriate Debian user list > address, what happens? Just tried it. The misspelled request is not processed, and you get a generic "h

Re: Mailing list unsubscription requests and identificatio

2023-08-12 Thread Curt
On 2023-08-12, Larry Martell wrote: > > > Who is a random person to you? You're new to this list, so you have > no clue > who is who here. > Gene may be many things, but he's not random. He's *old*, though, so I think certain breaks are to be given on that account. But what I want to know is:

Re: Alpine was: UNUBSCRIBE

2023-08-12 Thread Greg Wooledge
On Sat, Aug 12, 2023 at 10:49:19AM -0400, Jeffrey Walton wrote: > On Fri, Aug 11, 2023 at 11:08 PM fjd wrote: > > > > On Sat, 12 Aug 2023, Bret Busby wrote: > > > > > I am an alpine user (and pine before alpine), and I did not know of this > > > functionality. > > > > me too; me neither. > > > > D

Re: Alpine was: UNUBSCRIBE

2023-08-12 Thread Jeffrey Walton
On Fri, Aug 11, 2023 at 11:08 PM fjd wrote: > > On Sat, 12 Aug 2023, Bret Busby wrote: > > > I am an alpine user (and pine before alpine), and I did not know of this > > functionality. > > me too; me neither. > > Do you or anyone else know of a list or online forum where one can > discuss Alpine?

Re: Swap size in debain 12

2023-08-12 Thread Andrew M.A. Cater
On Sat, Aug 12, 2023 at 04:32:34PM +0200, Erwan David wrote: > Le 12/08/2023 à 16:24, David Wright a écrit : > > On Sat 12 Aug 2023 at 15:45:52 (+0200), Erwan David wrote: > > > Installing a new debian 12 I see that the installer setups a 1G swap > > > on a 24G RAM laptop. > > > > > > Is the hiber

Re: Swap size in debain 12

2023-08-12 Thread Erwan David
Le 12/08/2023 à 16:24, David Wright a écrit : On Sat 12 Aug 2023 at 15:45:52 (+0200), Erwan David wrote: Installing a new debian 12 I see that the installer setups a 1G swap on a 24G RAM laptop. Is the hibernation out of swap now ? (I chose to have a biigger swap, but I find it strange) The ar

Re: Swap size in debain 12

2023-08-12 Thread David Wright
On Sat 12 Aug 2023 at 15:45:52 (+0200), Erwan David wrote: > Installing a new debian 12 I see that the installer setups a 1G swap > on a 24G RAM laptop. > > Is the hibernation out of swap now ? (I chose to have a biigger swap, > but I find it strange) The arguments are rehearsed in: https://wi

Re: Crosshairs in gimp 2.10.22 in Debian 11.7.

2023-08-12 Thread peter
From: Dan Ritter Date: Sat, 12 Aug 2023 06:44:05 -0400 > Not by default. If someone finds an add-on providing lines intersecting at the hotpoint, a link will help. Thanks. > What you do get is an indicator triangle on the left and top rulers > that follows the cursor. OK, thanks. Wi

Swap size in debain 12

2023-08-12 Thread Erwan David
Installing a new debian 12 I see that the installer setups a 1G swap on a 24G RAM laptop. Is the hibernation out of swap now ? (I chose to have a biigger swap, but I find it strange) -- Erwan David

Re: List administrators - request for intervention - was - Re: Mailing list unsubscription requests and identificatio

2023-08-12 Thread Andrew M.A. Cater
On Sat, Aug 12, 2023 at 08:53:43AM +0800, Bret Busby wrote: > Hello. > > Could the List administrators please shut down both this thread and the > "unubscribe" thread? > Sadly, this list isn't fully moderated: the only way to stop any particular thread is not to contribute to it. I spend some t

Re: Cannot install Debian 12.1 on VirtualBox

2023-08-12 Thread Piscium
On Sat, 12 Aug 2023 at 13:35, wrote: > I notice on the video you provided a reference to not finding a virtual > core keyboard, in addition to the xf86SetGamma message. Maybe there's > something in the keyboard and/or USB settings for the VM? There are USB settings in the VB VM configuration, how

Re: Cannot install Debian 12.1 on VirtualBox

2023-08-12 Thread westk
On Sat, 2023-08-12 at 13:28 +0100, Piscium wrote: > On Sat, 12 Aug 2023 at 13:16, wrote: > > > How about selecting the non-graphical install (one downarrow-press > > away, I believe)? > > I had tried that too. In that case the screen becomes gray and > nothing > visible happens. Clearly somethin

Re: Cannot install Debian 12.1 on VirtualBox

2023-08-12 Thread Piscium
On Sat, 12 Aug 2023 at 13:16, wrote: > How about selecting the non-graphical install (one downarrow-press > away, I believe)? I had tried that too. In that case the screen becomes gray and nothing visible happens. Clearly something changed in Debian itself, because in these tests I use the same

Re: Cannot install Debian 12.1 on VirtualBox

2023-08-12 Thread westk
On Sat, 2023-08-12 at 11:44 +0100, Piscium wrote: > Installation of Debian 11.7 on VirtualBox works fine. This video > shows > the beginning of the process, I press Return on the default first > option, Graphics Install: > https://drive.google.com/file/d/1tSRFAPvcO6YTkxPPinO0EQjnBMJWAegg/view?usp=s

Re: Crosshairs in gimp 2.10.22 in Debian 11.7.

2023-08-12 Thread Dan Ritter
pe...@easthope.ca wrote: > I've retrieved 'Gregs Crosshairs.scm.zip' and unzipped to > /home/me/.config/GIMP/2.10/scripts/GregsCrosshairs.scm. > > If an image is open, Image > Guides gives a menu with four options. > New guide (by Percent)... > New guide... > New Guides from Selection > Remove al

Cannot install Debian 12.1 on VirtualBox

2023-08-12 Thread Piscium
Installation of Debian 11.7 on VirtualBox works fine. This video shows the beginning of the process, I press Return on the default first option, Graphics Install: https://drive.google.com/file/d/1tSRFAPvcO6YTkxPPinO0EQjnBMJWAegg/view?usp=sharing Installation of Debian 12.1 on VirtualBox fails at t

Re: UNUBSCRIBE

2023-08-12 Thread Bret Busby
On 12/8/23 16:06, Ottavio Caruso wrote: Am 11/08/2023 um 18:03 schrieb Bret Busby: On 11/8/23 23:46, Ottavio Caruso wrote: Am 11/08/2023 um 14:26 schrieb Greg Wooledge: On Fri, Aug 11, 2023 at 01:52:53PM +, davidson wrote: I guess this means that any of us could have bounced^[1] the OP's

Re: Alpine was: UNUBSCRIBE

2023-08-12 Thread Bret Busby
On 12/8/23 10:13, fjd wrote: On Sat, 12 Aug 2023, Bret Busby wrote: I am an alpine user (and pine before alpine), and I did not know of this functionality. me too; me neither. Do you or anyone else know of a list or online forum where one can discuss Alpine? Felmon http://mailman12.u.

Re: libkscreenlocker5: The file "/usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libexec/kcheckpass" is NOT existent in the stable package.

2023-08-12 Thread Hans
Hi Patrick, > > The "kcheckpass"-binary was removed from kscreenlocker over a year ago, > because it was obsolete. > Hence, distributions cannot ship the binary as it is not built anymore. This is not quite correct. Kcheckpass was in the package of bullseye! And bullseye was active (aka stable)