On Sat, Aug 05, 2023 at 02:00:42PM -0700, Steve Sobol wrote:
> On 2023-08-05 13:23, Michael Kjörling wrote:
> > On 5 Aug 2023 22:13 +0200, from johndoe65...@mail.com (john doe):
> > > > But cron isn't installed.
> > >
> > > I just install a new Bookworm VM and 'cron' is present! :)
> >
> > Ditto.
There's two approaches I would consider here:
If you know exactly which packages you want downloaded, I think you can use
"apt-get download" to just download the packages you tell it to, and it will
ignore all dependency requirements, and not download any other packages. This
would be a partia
On Sat, Aug 05, 2023 at 10:52:35PM -0500, Nicholas Geovanis wrote:
> On Sat, Aug 5, 2023, 10:27 PM Greg Wooledge wrote:
>
> > On Sat, Aug 05, 2023 at 10:05:31PM -0500, Nicholas Geovanis wrote:
> > > On Sat, Aug 5, 2023, 9:13 PM Greg Wooledge wrote:
> > >
> > > > On Sun, Aug 06, 2023 at 09:28:55A
On Sat, Aug 5, 2023, 10:27 PM Greg Wooledge wrote:
> On Sat, Aug 05, 2023 at 10:05:31PM -0500, Nicholas Geovanis wrote:
> > On Sat, Aug 5, 2023, 9:13 PM Greg Wooledge wrote:
> >
> > > On Sun, Aug 06, 2023 at 09:28:55AM +0800, Jon Smart wrote:
> > > > How to stop the auto-changes to /etc/resolv.c
On Sat, Aug 05, 2023 at 10:05:31PM -0500, Nicholas Geovanis wrote:
> On Sat, Aug 5, 2023, 9:13 PM Greg Wooledge wrote:
>
> > On Sun, Aug 06, 2023 at 09:28:55AM +0800, Jon Smart wrote:
> > > How to stop the auto-changes to /etc/resolv.conf after rebooting?
> >
> > https://wiki.debian.org/resolv.co
David Christensen wrote:
> On 8/5/23 12:03, gene heskett wrote:
> > What doc should I follow to bring these 2 drives into one volume managed
> > partition for amanda's use as a vtape device? I'd assume the volume
> > management works by now, but it was a data losing disaster 15+ years ago
> > when
On Sat, Aug 5, 2023, 9:13 PM Greg Wooledge wrote:
> On Sun, Aug 06, 2023 at 09:28:55AM +0800, Jon Smart wrote:
> > How to stop the auto-changes to /etc/resolv.conf after rebooting?
>
> https://wiki.debian.org/resolv.conf
>
Contrary to what that page states, auto changes to resolv.conf are never
On Sun, Aug 06, 2023 at 09:28:55AM +0800, Jon Smart wrote:
> How to stop the auto-changes to /etc/resolv.conf after rebooting?
https://wiki.debian.org/resolv.conf
On 6/8/23 09:28, Jon Smart wrote:
Hello
I have removed the default systemd-resolved local dns service following
the link below,
https://askubuntu.com/questions/907246/how-to-disable-systemd-resolved-in-ubuntu
And I have unbound installed and enabled as local DNS server.
But every time I reb
Hello
I have removed the default systemd-resolved local dns service following
the link below,
https://askubuntu.com/questions/907246/how-to-disable-systemd-resolved-in-ubuntu
And I have unbound installed and enabled as local DNS server.
But every time I reboot the server, the configuration file
On 8/5/23 12:03, gene heskett wrote:
I've an asus mobo with 6 sata ports, 5 are busy.
I also have another 6 port with 4 ports tied up serving a raid 10 for
/home. That leaves 2 ports empty on that controller.
I have a handful of 2T SSD's. If I can find another 4 pin empty pigtail
on the psu
Hello,
On Sat, Aug 05, 2023 at 03:03:54PM -0400, gene heskett wrote:
> What doc should I follow to bring these 2 drives into one volume managed
> partition for amanda's use as a vtape device? I'd assume the volume
> management works by now, but it was a data losing disaster 15+ years ago
> when I
On Sat, 5 Aug 2023 15:03:54 -0400
gene heskett wrote:
> I've an asus mobo with 6 sata ports, 5 are busy.
>
> I also have another 6 port with 4 ports tied up serving a raid 10 for
> /home. That leaves 2 ports empty on that controller.
>
> I have a handful of 2T SSD's. If I can find another 4 p
Hello,
On Sat, Aug 05, 2023 at 02:01:40PM -0700, Steve Sobol wrote:
> On 2023-08-05 13:16, Andy Smith wrote:
> > On Sat, Aug 05, 2023 at 12:53:08PM -0700, Steve Sobol wrote:
> > > Part of my standard procedure for setting up new VMs involves
> > > editing root's
> > > crontab.
> > >
> > > But cro
On 2023-08-05 13:16, Andy Smith wrote:
Hello,
On Sat, Aug 05, 2023 at 12:53:08PM -0700, Steve Sobol wrote:
Part of my standard procedure for setting up new VMs involves editing
root's
crontab.
But cron isn't installed.
Seems unlikely. There are system cron jobs that are not yet
converted to
On 2023-08-05 13:23, Michael Kjörling wrote:
On 5 Aug 2023 22:13 +0200, from johndoe65...@mail.com (john doe):
But cron isn't installed.
I just install a new Bookworm VM and 'cron' is present! :)
Ditto. That must be some customization your VPS provider has made, if
the installation didn't so
I'm trying to crossgrade a bullseye system (from i386 to amd64). The
machine is headless (with no graphical display and it's also difficult
to access a console), so I'm doing it over ssh.
In preparation I've switched from systemd to sysvinit (due to the
warning on the crossgrade page), and als
gene heskett wrote:
> I've an asus mobo with 6 sata ports, 5 are busy.
>
> I also have another 6 port with 4 ports tied up serving a raid 10 for /home.
> That leaves 2 ports empty on that controller.
>
> I have a handful of 2T SSD's. If I can find another 4 pin empty pigtail on
> the psu, I'll p
On Sat, Aug 05, 2023 at 08:16:57PM +, Andy Smith wrote:
> Hello,
>
> On Sat, Aug 05, 2023 at 12:53:08PM -0700, Steve Sobol wrote:
> > But cron isn't installed.
>
> Seems unlikely. There are system cron jobs that are not yet
> converted to systemd timers. A bookworm install I did just yesterda
On Sat, Aug 05, 2023 at 08:31:13PM +, Andy Smith wrote:
> On Sat, Aug 05, 2023 at 08:23:19PM +, Michael Kjörling wrote:
> > Ditto. That must be some customization your VPS provider has made, if
> > the installation didn't somehow fail.
>
> I don't know why a hosting company would put in th
Hello,
On Sat, Aug 05, 2023 at 08:23:19PM +, Michael Kjörling wrote:
> On 5 Aug 2023 22:13 +0200, from johndoe65...@mail.com (john doe):
> >> But cron isn't installed.
> >
> > I just install a new Bookworm VM and 'cron' is present! :)
>
> Ditto. That must be some customization your VPS provi
On Sat, Aug 05, 2023 at 12:53:08PM -0700, Steve Sobol wrote:
> My VPS provider [...]
> But cron isn't installed.
>
> What am I expected to use instead? (I assume that I *could* install cron,
> but there must be a reason it's not installed by default anymore, right?)
Just install it. Do not wast
On 5 Aug 2023 22:13 +0200, from johndoe65...@mail.com (john doe):
>> But cron isn't installed.
>
> I just install a new Bookworm VM and 'cron' is present! :)
Ditto. That must be some customization your VPS provider has made, if
the installation didn't somehow fail.
I did an installation based on
On 2023-08-05 12:12, Anders Andersson wrote:
Impossible, fake news. It's Java. When I still coded C and assembly in
the nineties everyone told me that Java would solve the issue of
portability forever. Write once, run anywhere! Just run it, no
worries!
Ahhh... I don't know what com.gradle.ent
On 2023-08-05 09:50, Roberto C. Sánchez wrote:
However, it seems like there are rather serious blocking issues that
have halted progress.
When I need Gradle (whether on Mac, Linux or Windows), I just download
the latest version, put it somewhere and use it. I do the same thing
with Java VMs.
Hello,
On Sat, Aug 05, 2023 at 12:53:08PM -0700, Steve Sobol wrote:
> Part of my standard procedure for setting up new VMs involves editing root's
> crontab.
>
> But cron isn't installed.
Seems unlikely. There are system cron jobs that are not yet
converted to systemd timers. A bookworm install
On 8/5/23 21:53, Steve Sobol wrote:
Crazy question:
My VPS provider just started offering bookworm images. So when I set up
a new server yesterday, I installed bookworm.
Part of my standard procedure for setting up new VMs involves editing
root's crontab.
But cron isn't installed.
What am I e
Crazy question:
My VPS provider just started offering bookworm images. So when I set up
a new server yesterday, I installed bookworm.
Part of my standard procedure for setting up new VMs involves editing
root's crontab.
But cron isn't installed.
What am I expected to use instead? (I assume
Hello,
On Sat, Aug 05, 2023 at 08:03:27PM +0100, Joe wrote:
> On Sat, 5 Aug 2023 15:09:41 +
> Andy Smith wrote:
> > For those of us who do care, installing rsyslog takes seconds.
> > Disabling the systemd journal (if you want to)_ takes another few
> > seconds. This email took longer.
>
> Bu
On Sat, Aug 5, 2023 at 6:51 PM Roberto C. Sánchez wrote:
>
> On Sat, Aug 05, 2023 at 05:21:55PM +0100, Mark Fletcher wrote:
> > Gradle is not some minority, hardly-used tool, so there is presumably
> > a reason why the package hasn't been updated in Debian. Anyone know
> > what it is?
> >
> Becuas
On Sat, Aug 05, 2023 at 08:03:27PM +0100, Joe wrote:
> On Sat, 5 Aug 2023 15:09:41 +
> Andy Smith wrote:
> > The release notes in particular are essential reading since
> > otherwise a person won't know about major components that have
> > changed, been replaced etc.
>
> Indeed, but they just
I've an asus mobo with 6 sata ports, 5 are busy.
I also have another 6 port with 4 ports tied up serving a raid 10 for
/home. That leaves 2 ports empty on that controller.
I have a handful of 2T SSD's. If I can find another 4 pin empty pigtail
on the psu, I'll plug 2 of these 2T's into that
On Sat, 5 Aug 2023 15:09:41 +
Andy Smith wrote:
> Hello,
>
> On Sat, Aug 05, 2023 at 09:23:25AM -0400, Greg Wooledge wrote:
> > In any case, this is not a popular change.
>
> I don't think that's clear. I think that amongst a population of
> people who care deeply about logging it's gener
On Sat, Aug 05, 2023 at 05:21:55PM +0100, Mark Fletcher wrote:
> Apologies if this is a dumb and/or frequently-answered question,
> but... does anyone know why the version of the "gradle" build tool in
> bookworm is version 4?
>
> The version in bookworm, 4.4.1-18, was migrated to testing in Janua
Apologies if this is a dumb and/or frequently-answered question,
but... does anyone know why the version of the "gradle" build tool in
bookworm is version 4?
The version in bookworm, 4.4.1-18, was migrated to testing in January
of this year -- an upgrade from version 4.4.1-13 -- at which time the
Hello,
On Sat, Aug 05, 2023 at 09:23:25AM -0400, Greg Wooledge wrote:
> In any case, this is not a popular change.
I don't think that's clear. I think that amongst a population of
people who care deeply about logging it's generally unfavourable,
and I myself don't particularly enjoy using journal
Hello,
On Sat, Aug 05, 2023 at 08:56:36AM -0400, Carl Fink wrote:
> It is highly probable that I'm being grumpy because Debian changed
> something that I was used to for decades, without my realizing it.
…because you didn't read the release notes that are absolutely
required reading to understand
* 2023-08-05 09:23:25-0400, Greg Wooledge wrote:
> In any case, this [systemd journal] is not a popular change. I don't
> remember ever hearing a single person say "Wow, I'm so glad they did
> this!" I've seen many complaints. Most often, people just (re)install
> rsyslog and move on with their li
Hi,
I installed bookworm on a HP Laptop 17-cp2xxx, everything works perfectly,
except the microphone does not show up in alsamixer, KDE plasma and Chromium.
pactl lists two cards, in card #1 I see a analog-input-mic:
rd@laptop:~$ pactl list cards
Card #0
Name: alsa_card.pci-_03_00.1
On 8/5/23 14:56, Carl Fink wrote:
On 8/5/23 02:54, Michel Verdier wrote:
On 2023-08-04, Carl Fink wrote:
Today, on my Bullseye system, X crashed and restarted. Naturally, I thought
I'd check my logs to see if I could find out why.
Well, no ... because syslog does not exist.
If you don't have
On Sat, Aug 05, 2023 at 02:12:31PM +0100, Brian wrote:
> Does this clarify?
>
> https://wiki.debian.org/Rsyslog#Deprecation_in_Bookworm
Ah, I didn't know about that page. It links to bug #1018788 which
says, among other things,
The main reason here is, that I want to avoid that log data i
On Sat, Aug 05, 2023 at 08:56:36AM -0400, Carl Fink wrote:
> It is highly probable that I'm being grumpy because Debian changed something
> that
> I was used to for decades, without my realizing it. I'm more interested in
> *using* my
> computer than learning whole new paradigms about, say, logging
On Sat 05 Aug 2023 at 08:56:36 -0400, Carl Fink wrote:
> On 8/5/23 02:54, Michel Verdier wrote:
> > On 2023-08-04, Carl Fink wrote:
> >
> > > Today, on my Bullseye system, X crashed and restarted. Naturally, I
> > > thought
> > > I'd check my logs to see if I could find out why.
> > >
> > > Wel
On 8/5/23 02:54, Michel Verdier wrote:
On 2023-08-04, Carl Fink wrote:
Today, on my Bullseye system, X crashed and restarted. Naturally, I thought
I'd check my logs to see if I could find out why.
Well, no ... because syslog does not exist.
If you don't have syslog your logs will be on journa
On 8/4/23 19:26, David Wright wrote:
On Thu 03 Aug 2023 at 15:56:07 (-0700), David Christensen wrote:
On 8/2/23 19:05, Greg Wooledge wrote:
On Wed, Aug 02, 2023 at 07:01:22PM -0700, David Christensen wrote:
Interesting. Is there a Debian specification that explains the 127.0.1.1
entry?
http
David Wright writes:
> On Fri 04 Aug 2023 at 15:36:35 (+0200), Kamil Jońca wrote:
>> Kamil Jońca writes:
>>
>> [...]
>> Ugh. This laptop has keyboard where Fn keys have dual function (quite
>> common nowadays) and under F1 was kind of 'Sleep'. So when I press
>> Ctrl-Alt-F1 it goes to sleep, a
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