Re: no sound on Debian 12

2023-07-25 Thread Andreas Rönnquist
On Tue, 25 Jul 2023 14:54:26 -0700, Bruce Byfield wrote: >Last week, I installed Debian 12. Since then I've had no sound. I've consulted >various pages on the Debian wiki, and found no solution, either with >pulseaudio or pipewire. Built-in speakers, and external features (including >bluetooth

no sound on Debian 12

2023-07-25 Thread Bruce Byfield
Last week, I installed Debian 12. Since then I've had no sound. I've consulted various pages on the Debian wiki, and found no solution, either with pulseaudio or pipewire. Built-in speakers, and external features (including bluetooth ones, which are definitely connected) don't work. Any suggest

Re: After upgrade 11 -> 12.1, "unknown keysym 'dead_abovering'" during early boot, console keymap remains US

2023-07-25 Thread Michael Kjörling
On 23 Jul 2023 20:32 +, from 2695bd53d...@ewoof.net (Michael Kjörling): > I upgraded from current Debian 11 to 12.1 today. Almost everything > worked great, but during early boot I'm now getting the following > message: > > unknown keysym 'dead_abovering' > /etc/console-setup/cached_UTF-8_del.

Re: After upgrade 11 -> 12.1, "unknown keysym 'dead_abovering'" during early boot, console keymap remains US

2023-07-25 Thread Michael Kjörling
On 25 Jul 2023 17:09 +0100, from robbied...@gmail.com (Robbie Dinn): > I used dpkg-query to check what package the file > /etc/console-setup/cached_UTF-8_del.kmap might belong to. > > freon@debian:~$ dpkg-query -S > /etc/console-setup/cached_UTF-8_del.kmap.gz > dpkg-query: no path fo

Re: After upgrade 11 -> 12.1, "unknown keysym 'dead_abovering'" during early boot, console keymap remains US

2023-07-25 Thread Robbie Dinn
Hello Michael On 25/07/2023 16:17, Michael Kjörling wrote: > On 25 Jul 2023 09:17 -0500, from deb...@lionunicorn.co.uk (David Wright): >>> unknown keysym 'dead_abovering' >>> /etc/console-setup/cached_UTF-8_del.kmap:27: syntax error >>> syntax error in map file >>> key bindings not changed >> >> A

Re: General Questions

2023-07-25 Thread Andrew M.A. Cater
On Tue, Jul 25, 2023 at 08:51:59PM +0600, Source Code wrote: > People, how to solve problem with rfkill without install rfkill? > > Вт, 25 июля 2023 г. в 20:31, Michel Verdier : > > > On 2023-07-25, Greg Wooledge wrote: > > > > >> And about third question, I mean: dwm and awesome wm. They will be

Re: General Questions

2023-07-25 Thread tomas
On Tue, Jul 25, 2023 at 09:18:10PM +0600, Source Code wrote: > I'm sorry, Nicolas George, if I offended you. I didn't want it. I'm new > here and don't know how to post my questions without disturbing anyone. So > sorry everyone if my questions have distracted you in any way. I will try > to figure

Re: Overzealous polkit

2023-07-25 Thread Charles Curley
On Tue, 25 Jul 2023 11:42:51 + Michael Kjörling <2695bd53d...@ewoof.net> wrote: > It doesn't look like you can in any current version. Some web > searching brought me to [1] which appears to indicate that the > authentication timeout is currently hardcoded to five minutes for > temporary autho

Re: General Questions

2023-07-25 Thread John Hasler
Source Code writes: > So sorry everyone if my questions have distracted you in any way. Apology accepted. > I will try to figure with my problems out myself in future. It's ok to ask for help again. Just respond politely when people try to answer your questions. -- John Hasler j...@sugarbit.c

Re: General Questions

2023-07-25 Thread Andy Smith
Hi, On Tue, Jul 25, 2023 at 09:18:10PM +0600, Source Code wrote: > I'm sorry, Nicolas George, if I offended you. I didn't want it. I'm new > here and don't know how to post my questions without disturbing anyone.i If there is a language barrier here. maybe posting questions on debian-russian will

Re: General Questions

2023-07-25 Thread Source Code
I'm sorry, Nicolas George, if I offended you. I didn't want it. I'm new here and don't know how to post my questions without disturbing anyone. So sorry everyone if my questions have distracted you in any way. I will try to figure with my problems out myself in future. Thanks everyone! Вт, 25 июля

Re: After upgrade 11 -> 12.1, "unknown keysym 'dead_abovering'" during early boot, console keymap remains US

2023-07-25 Thread Michael Kjörling
On 25 Jul 2023 09:17 -0500, from deb...@lionunicorn.co.uk (David Wright): >> unknown keysym 'dead_abovering' >> /etc/console-setup/cached_UTF-8_del.kmap:27: syntax error >> syntax error in map file >> key bindings not changed > > Anyway, my MO, probably including a bit of cargo-cult, would be to >

Re: General Questions

2023-07-25 Thread tomas
On Tue, Jul 25, 2023 at 09:02:36PM +0600, Source Code wrote: > I have thought I have right to ask any question, for get answers which I > need :( Yes, you have. But the answers have the right to not be liked by you, at least not always :-) Cheers -- t signature.asc Description: PGP signature

Re: General Questions

2023-07-25 Thread Nicolas George
Source Code (12023-07-25): > I have thought I have right to ask any question Oh, you have the right all right. And I have a right of not helping you. Which is exactly what I will do from now on, since you just spat in my face when I tried to. -- Nicolas George signature.asc Description: PGP

Re: General Questions

2023-07-25 Thread tomas
On Tue, Jul 25, 2023 at 05:02:09PM +0200, to...@tuxteam.de wrote: [...] Oh, forgot the ref: > Or have a read at the rfkill source [1] [...] Cheers [1] https://sources.debian.org/src/rfkill/0.5-1/rfkill.c/ -- t signature.asc Description: PGP signature

Re: General Questions

2023-07-25 Thread Source Code
I have thought I have right to ask any question, for get answers which I need :( I have another one question: can I use terminal in Debian Installer without any problem in the future? What hot keys I need to use? And what’s step in installer where I can use terminal? I know about shell in the end

Re: General Questions

2023-07-25 Thread tomas
On Tue, Jul 25, 2023 at 04:54:54PM +0200, Nicolas George wrote: > Source Code (12023-07-25): > > People, how to solve problem with rfkill without install rfkill? > > Step 1: get rid of stupid constraints. > > Step 2: install rfkill. Or have a read at the rfkill source [1] and see what you have t

Re: General Questions

2023-07-25 Thread Nicolas George
Source Code (12023-07-25): > People, how to solve problem with rfkill without install rfkill? Step 1: get rid of stupid constraints. Step 2: install rfkill. Step 3: solve problem. Step 4: learn what top-posting means. Step 5: stop doing it. Regards, -- Nicolas George signature.asc Descr

Re: General Questions

2023-07-25 Thread Source Code
People, how to solve problem with rfkill without install rfkill? Вт, 25 июля 2023 г. в 20:31, Michel Verdier : > On 2023-07-25, Greg Wooledge wrote: > > >> And about third question, I mean: dwm and awesome wm. They will be > >> supported in future too? > > > > If people use them, and if the upstr

Re: General Questions

2023-07-25 Thread Michel Verdier
On 2023-07-25, Greg Wooledge wrote: >> And about third question, I mean: dwm and awesome wm. They will be >> supported in future too? > > If people use them, and if the upstream developers of these projects > remain active and responsive, they will likely remain in Debian. And about dwm I would a

Re: After upgrade 11 -> 12.1, "unknown keysym 'dead_abovering'" during early boot, console keymap remains US

2023-07-25 Thread David Wright
On Sun 23 Jul 2023 at 20:32:28 (+), Michael Kjörling wrote: > I upgraded from current Debian 11 to 12.1 today. Almost everything > worked great, but during early boot I'm now getting the following > message: > > unknown keysym 'dead_abovering' > /etc/console-setup/cached_UTF-8_del.kmap:27: syn

Re: General Questions

2023-07-25 Thread Andrew M.A. Cater
On Tue, Jul 25, 2023 at 06:26:20PM +0600, Source Code wrote: > I use Debian on my PC not as a server. > > Using Debian for PC OS is not good? Is it recommended only for servers? > I've only been using it on a PC for 26 years - it is too early to be certain whether it is good or not. > And abou

Re: Debian as daily driver; WiFi networking and firmware (was: General Questions)

2023-07-25 Thread Michael Kjörling
On 25 Jul 2023 18:26 +0600, from rifesourcec...@gmail.com (Source Code): > Using Debian for PC OS is not good? Is it recommended only for servers? Debian is entirely usable as a daily driver workstation OS. I've been using it as such for around a decade, possibly longer; I have old notes and Debia

Re: General Questions

2023-07-25 Thread Greg Wooledge
On Tue, Jul 25, 2023 at 06:26:20PM +0600, Source Code wrote: > I use Debian on my PC not as a server. > > Using Debian for PC OS is not good? Is it recommended only for servers? Both are common. Debian aims to be good for any purpose. > And about third question, I mean: dwm and awesome wm. They

Re: Low-memory Debian (was: General Questions)

2023-07-25 Thread Michael Kjörling
On 25 Jul 2023 08:18 -0400, from g...@wooledge.org (Greg Wooledge): >>> 3. Is it possible to reduce RAM consumption? And minimize it? Let's say up >>> to 100-200 mb? >> >> That depends on what you choose to run, and how. I would not >> recommend trying to do anything interesting on a machine with

Re: General Questions

2023-07-25 Thread Source Code
I use Debian on my PC not as a server. Using Debian for PC OS is not good? Is it recommended only for servers? And about third question, I mean: dwm and awesome wm. They will be supported in future too? It turns out you need free firmware to use wifi? But I can use wifi, but only with some DE. I

Re: General Questions

2023-07-25 Thread Joe
On Tue, 25 Jul 2023 08:18:21 -0400 Greg Wooledge wrote: > On Tue, Jul 25, 2023 at 07:53:52AM -0400, Dan Ritter wrote: > > Source Code wrote: > > > 3. Is it possible to reduce RAM consumption? And minimize it? > > > Let's say up to 100-200 mb? > > > > That depends on what you choose to run,

Re: General Questions

2023-07-25 Thread Greg Wooledge
On Tue, Jul 25, 2023 at 07:53:52AM -0400, Dan Ritter wrote: > Source Code wrote: > > 3. Is it possible to reduce RAM consumption? And minimize it? Let's say up > > to 100-200 mb? > > That depends on what you choose to run, and how. I would not > recommend trying to do anything interesting on a ma

Re: General Questions

2023-07-25 Thread Dan Ritter
Source Code wrote: > Hello dear Debian team! I really like this distribution. I use it with > great pleasure! But I would like to know more about this distribution. I > wanted to ask you: debian-users is composed of users of Debian, not a "team". > 1. After installing Debian without a single des

Re: Overzealous polkit

2023-07-25 Thread didier gaumet
Le 24/07/2023 à 23:55, Charles Curley a écrit : A fresh install of Debian 12.1 on a Lenovo Yoga 13. I have firewalld installed, and firewall-config 1.3.0-1 to manage it. Polkit insists on authentication, which is fine. It then has extremely short timeouts (or something), so I have to keep re-auth

Re: After upgrade 11 -> 12.1, "unknown keysym 'dead_abovering'" during early boot, console keymap remains US

2023-07-25 Thread Michael Kjörling
On 23 Jul 2023 20:32 +, from 2695bd53d...@ewoof.net (Michael Kjörling): > unknown keysym 'dead_abovering' > /etc/console-setup/cached_UTF-8_del.kmap:27: syntax error > syntax error in map file > key bindings not changed No suggestions from anyone for anything to check, let alone a solution? I'

Re: Overzealous polkit

2023-07-25 Thread Michael Kjörling
On 24 Jul 2023 15:55 -0600, from charlescur...@charlescurley.com (Charles Curley): > A fresh install of Debian 12.1 on a Lenovo Yoga 13. I have firewalld > installed, and firewall-config 1.3.0-1 to manage it. Polkit insists on > authentication, which is fine. It then has extremely short timeouts (

Re: Overzealous polkit

2023-07-25 Thread Michael Kjörling
On 25 Jul 2023 12:49 +0200, from to...@tuxteam.de: >> I misread the subject line of this thread as “overzealous polecat” — and >> thought “What’s this, a new release of Ubuntu or something?” :) > > That would be Overzealous Ocelot, no? Or Pedantic Polecat. :-) -- Michael Kjörling

General Questions

2023-07-25 Thread Source Code
Hello dear Debian team! I really like this distribution. I use it with great pleasure! But I would like to know more about this distribution. I wanted to ask you: 1. After installing Debian without a single desktop environment, there is only a web server, ssh server and standard utilities. Is it p

Re: Overzealous polkit

2023-07-25 Thread tomas
On Tue, Jul 25, 2023 at 11:37:29AM +0100, Mark Fletcher wrote: > On Mon, Jul 24, 2023 at 22:55 Charles Curley < > charlescur...@charlescurley.com> wrote: > > > A fresh install of Debian 12.1 on a Lenovo Yoga 13. I have firewalld > > installed, and firewall-config 1.3.0-1 to manage it. Polkit insis

Re: Overzealous polkit

2023-07-25 Thread Mark Fletcher
On Mon, Jul 24, 2023 at 22:55 Charles Curley < charlescur...@charlescurley.com> wrote: > A fresh install of Debian 12.1 on a Lenovo Yoga 13. I have firewalld > installed, and firewall-config 1.3.0-1 to manage it. Polkit insists on > authentication, which is fine. It then has extremely short timeou