firewalld on Debian 12

2023-07-07 Thread David Mehler
Hello, I'm trying to get firewalld going on Debian 12. I'm getting a python error and I've seen it on google searches but not found a resolution. Any suggestions welcome. Here's the complete log. Thanks. Dave. root@hostname:/etc/ssh#cat /etc/debian_version 12.0 root@hostname:~#apt install firewal

Re: why bookworm isn't called deb12?

2023-07-07 Thread Brad Rogers
On Fri, 07 Jul 2023 16:08:44 -0500 John Hasler wrote: Hello John, >That processor was targeted at embedded systems and it made sense in >some applications. I don't understand why anyone would put it in a >desktop. Cost. -- Regards _ "Valid sig separator is {dash}{dash}{space}"

Re: Transport endpoint is not connected

2023-07-07 Thread hlyg
On 7/8/23 03:00, Andrew M.A. Cater wrote: If you don't have a floppy drive - don't set it up in the BIOS, If you're running off a disk that's connected via USB - it will be slower than the same disk directly attached to SATA. Debian 12 is (probably) no slower than Debian 11 - but it is more u

Re: why bookworm isn't called deb12?

2023-07-07 Thread Stefan Monnier
> Motorola's 68000 line had an internal 32 bit architecture, which made > the CPU both performant and expensive. Hmm... it had a (non-internal) 32bit instruction set architecture (i.e. programmers could directly manipulate 32bit entities), but internally it manipulated only 16bit at a time (e.g. a

Re: why bookworm isn't called deb12?

2023-07-07 Thread Charlie Gibbs
On Fri, 07 Jul 2023 23:10:01 +0200 John Hasler wrote: > Bret writes: > >> With bits and bytes, one strange thing that I remember, is that, in >> 1985, in Australia, a particular computer was introduced, that had a >> 32 bit processor with 8 bit buses. It was a Motorola 68008 CPU, and, >> I could

Re: why bookworm isn't called deb12?

2023-07-07 Thread gene heskett
On 7/7/23 17:24, Dan Ritter wrote: Bret Busby wrote: With bits and bytes, one strange thing that I remember, is that, in 1985, in Australia, a particular computer was introduced, that had a 32 bit processor with 8 bit buses. It was a Motorola 68008 CPU, and, I could not understand why a company

Re: why bookworm isn't called deb12?

2023-07-07 Thread David Wright
On Fri 07 Jul 2023 at 16:08:44 (-0500), John Hasler wrote: > Bret writes: > > With bits and bytes, one strange thing that I remember, is that, in > > 1985, in Australia, a particular computer was introduced, that had a > > 32 bit processor with 8 bit buses. It was a Motorola 68008 CPU, and, I > > c

Re: why bookworm isn't called deb12?

2023-07-07 Thread Nate Bargmann
* On 2023 07 Jul 12:59 -0500, to...@tuxteam.de wrote: > There is lots of cross-pollination, though. Before the advent of Clang > there weren't many credible alternatives to the GCC toolchain; I don't > think any BSD sysadmin worth their salt would renounce using rsync just > because it's GPL. Conve

Re: why bookworm isn't called deb12?

2023-07-07 Thread Dan Ritter
Bret Busby wrote: > > With bits and bytes, one strange thing that I remember, is that, in 1985, in > Australia, a particular computer was introduced, that had a 32 bit processor > with 8 bit buses. It was a Motorola 68008 CPU, and, I could not understand > why a company would produce a 32 bit CPU

Re: why bookworm isn't called deb12?

2023-07-07 Thread John Hasler
Bret writes: > With bits and bytes, one strange thing that I remember, is that, in > 1985, in Australia, a particular computer was introduced, that had a > 32 bit processor with 8 bit buses. It was a Motorola 68008 CPU, and, I > could not understand why a company would produce a 32 bit CPU wit 8 >

Re: Synaptic Problem

2023-07-07 Thread gene heskett
On 7/7/23 15:32, Felix Miata wrote: Stephen P. Molnar composed on 2023-07-07 15:17 (UTC-0400): I have just installed Bookworm without any problems. However, synaptic has developed a problem: 1920x1080 is working now??? Google has not found a solution that works. I would appreciate sug

Re: why bookworm isn't called deb12?

2023-07-07 Thread Bret Busby
On 8/7/23 03:30, mick.crane wrote: On 2023-07-07 19:19, to...@tuxteam.de wrote: Thr rest, is, as they say... .."A thirty-two bit extension and graphical shell to a sixteen bit patch to an eight bit operating system originally coded for a four bit microprocessor which was written by a two-bi

Re: why bookworm isn't called deb12?

2023-07-07 Thread gene heskett
On 7/7/23 13:33, Charlie Gibbs wrote: On Fri Jul  7 09:59:56 2023 fxkl4...@protonmail.com wrote: >> Microsoft for good or bad has made major advances in software Yup.  Like surveillance, flakiness, and an endless merry-go-round of forced upgrades into ever-increasing bloatware. >> and is res

Re: why bookworm isn't called deb12?

2023-07-07 Thread debian-user
jeremy ardley wrote: > On 7/7/23 19:28, debian-u...@howorth.org.uk wrote: > > > > That may be or not, but is irrelevant. Accurate attribution of > > quotes is important, IMHO, and not difficult to do. So doubling > > down on your mistake instead of a simple mea culpa means you move > > further dow

Re: camera problem seems to be solved

2023-07-07 Thread gene heskett
On 7/7/23 08:25, Max Nikulin wrote: On 06/07/2023 18:57, gene heskett wrote: gene@coyote:~$ findmnt --target /home/gene/Pictures/Saw4Bruce (didn't work) TARGET SOURCE FSTYPE OPTIONS /home  /dev/md0p1 ext4   rw,relatime,errors=remount-ro,stripe=256 gene@coyote:~$ findmnt --target /home/gene/

Re: Synaptic Problem

2023-07-07 Thread Cindy Sue Causey
On 7/7/23, Felix Miata wrote: > Stephen P. Molnar composed on 2023-07-07 15:17 (UTC-0400): > >> I have just installed Bookworm without any problems. > >> However, synaptic has developed a problem: > > 1920x1080 is working now??? > >> Google has not found a solution that works. > >> I would appreci

Re: Synaptic Problem

2023-07-07 Thread Felix Miata
Stephen P. Molnar composed on 2023-07-07 15:17 (UTC-0400): > I have just installed Bookworm without any problems. > However, synaptic has developed a problem: 1920x1080 is working now??? > Google has not found a solution that works. > I would appreciate suggstions. It's for a Brother printer,

Re: Synaptic Problem

2023-07-07 Thread Joe
On Fri, 7 Jul 2023 15:17:57 -0400 "Stephen P. Molnar" wrote: > I have just installed Bookworm without any problems. > > However, synaptic has developed a problem: > > Google has not found a solution that works. > > I would appreciate suggstions. > > Would you maybe consider telling us wha

Re: Synaptic Problem

2023-07-07 Thread Andy Smith
Hi Stephen, On Fri, Jul 07, 2023 at 03:17:57PM -0400, Stephen P. Molnar wrote: > I have just installed Bookworm without any problems. > > However, synaptic has developed a problem: > > Google has not found a solution that works. > > I would appreciate suggstions. My main suggestion is that you

Re: why bookworm isn't called deb12?

2023-07-07 Thread mick.crane
On 2023-07-07 19:19, to...@tuxteam.de wrote: Thr rest, is, as they say... .."A thirty-two bit extension and graphical shell to a sixteen bit patch to an eight bit operating system originally coded for a four bit microprocessor which was written by a two-bit company that can't stand one bit

Re: Corrupt root filesystem

2023-07-07 Thread Reco
On Fri, Jul 07, 2023 at 06:26:28PM +0100, Mick Ab wrote: > The error messages were of the form :- > > "/dev/mapper/vgpcname-root contains a file system with errors, check > forced. >Inodes that were a part of a corrupted orphan linked lost found. >/dev/mapper/vgpcname-root : UNEXPECTED I

Synaptic Problem

2023-07-07 Thread Stephen P. Molnar
I have just installed Bookworm without any problems. However, synaptic has developed a problem: Google has not found a solution that works. I would appreciate suggstions. Thanks in advance. -- Stephen P. Molnar, Ph.D. https://insilicochemistry.net (614)312-7528 (c) Skype: smolnar1

Re: Transport endpoint is not connected

2023-07-07 Thread Andrew M.A. Cater
On Fri, Jul 07, 2023 at 12:34:48AM -0400, hlyg wrote: > deb12 is slow, it complains floppy error. in bios floppy drive is set to > 1.44M though i have no floppy drive. this isn't problem for deb10/11. it's > easy to correct bios setting but i am afraid deb12 is still slow. > If you don't have a f

Re: Corrupt root filesystem

2023-07-07 Thread John Covici
You need to boot into a rescue disk like grml and then you can fix your file systems from there. On Fri, 07 Jul 2023 14:30:50 -0400, Andy Smith wrote: > > Hi Mick, > > On Fri, Jul 07, 2023 at 06:28:55PM +0100, Mick Ab wrote: > > Sorry, I should have said that fsck was manually run on the root > >

Re: Corrupt root filesystem

2023-07-07 Thread Andy Smith
Hi Mick, On Fri, Jul 07, 2023 at 06:28:55PM +0100, Mick Ab wrote: > Sorry, I should have said that fsck was manually run on the root > file system (as advised by the error message) each time that the > error occurred. On both occasions, the system was rebooted okay. If you're actually interested

Re: why bookworm isn't called deb12?

2023-07-07 Thread tomas
On Fri, Jul 07, 2023 at 08:43:04AM -0500, Nate Bargmann wrote: > * On 2023 07 Jul 08:13 -0500, jeremy ardley wrote: > > > > My error: > > > > I should have said > > > > "Linux is a clone of Unix so a derivative. MS is also a derivative but not > > much like Unix. " > > If you mean MS Windows NT

Re: why bookworm isn't called deb12?

2023-07-07 Thread tomas
On Fri, Jul 07, 2023 at 04:59:48PM +0800, Bret Busby wrote: > On 7/7/23 16:51, jeremy ardley wrote: > > > > On 7/7/23 16:30, Bret Busby wrote: > > > Microsoft didn't invent anything. > > > > > > I did not post that statement as the original poster of that statement. Oh, goody. No, that was me.

Re: why bookworm isn't called deb12?

2023-07-07 Thread tomas
On Fri, Jul 07, 2023 at 11:08:57AM -0500, Nate Bargmann wrote: > * On 2023 07 Jul 09:12 -0500, BRN wrote: > > I could be accused of nitpicking here, however; I'd suggest that GNU was > > inspired by the original UNIX rather than being a clone. A clone in > > the original biological context refers

Re: why bookworm isn't called deb12?

2023-07-07 Thread Charlie Gibbs
On Fri Jul 7 09:59:56 2023 fxkl4...@protonmail.com wrote: >> Microsoft for good or bad has made major advances in software Yup. Like surveillance, flakiness, and an endless merry-go-round of forced upgrades into ever-increasing bloatware. >> and is responsible for a fair fraction of what we e

Re: Corrupt root filesystem

2023-07-07 Thread Mick Ab
On 18:10, Fri, 7 Jul 2023 Mick Ab > On 16:22, Fri, 7 Jul 2023 Andy Smith > > > Hi Mick, > > > > On Fri, Jul 07, 2023 at 04:01:23PM +0100, Mick Ab wrote: > > > Twice, when trying to reboot my PC, I have had error messages which > > > indicate the root file system is corrupted and needs the manual

Re: Corrupt root filesystem

2023-07-07 Thread Mick Ab
On 16:39, Fri, 7 Jul 2023 Reco > On July 7, 2023 6:01:23 PM GMT+03:00, Mick Ab < recoverymail123...@gmail.com> wrote: > >Twice, when trying to reboot my PC, I have had error messages which > >indicate the root file system is corrupted and needs the manual use of fsck > >to fix the root file system

Re: why bookworm isn't called deb12?

2023-07-07 Thread Nate Bargmann
* On 2023 07 Jul 09:12 -0500, BRN wrote: > I could be accused of nitpicking here, however; I'd suggest that GNU was > inspired by the original UNIX rather than being a clone. A clone in > the original biological context refers to an exact genetic copy - "byte > for byte" if you like. That is prob

Re: Corrupt root filesystem

2023-07-07 Thread Reco
On July 7, 2023 6:01:23 PM GMT+03:00, Mick Ab wrote: >Twice, when trying to reboot my PC, I have had error messages which >indicate the root file system is corrupted and needs the manual use of fsck >to fix the root file system before a reboot can be done. > Typically, running fsck requires an

Re: Corrupt root filesystem

2023-07-07 Thread Andy Smith
Hi Mick, On Fri, Jul 07, 2023 at 04:01:23PM +0100, Mick Ab wrote: > Twice, when trying to reboot my PC, I have had error messages which > indicate the root file system is corrupted and needs the manual use of fsck > to fix the root file system before a reboot can be done. > > Any thoughts please

Corrupt root filesystem

2023-07-07 Thread Mick Ab
Twice, when trying to reboot my PC, I have had error messages which indicate the root file system is corrupted and needs the manual use of fsck to fix the root file system before a reboot can be done. Any thoughts please as to what might cause the above problem ?

Re: why bookworm isn't called deb12?

2023-07-07 Thread BRN
jeremy ardley writes: > On 7/7/23 21:05, jeremy ardley wrote: >> >> On 7/7/23 20:47, Nate Bargmann wrote: >>> What MS has done has never been relevant to the creation of GNU, X, or >>> the Linux kernel. >> >> >> Agreed, those technologies were mostly independent of anything >> Microsoft has done.

Re: why bookworm isn't called deb12?

2023-07-07 Thread Nate Bargmann
* On 2023 07 Jul 08:13 -0500, jeremy ardley wrote: > > My error: > > I should have said > > "Linux is a clone of Unix so a derivative. MS is also a derivative but not > much like Unix. " If you mean MS Windows NT and later, it apparently owes much to VMS and OS/2. Certainly, some POSIX support

Re: why bookworm isn't called deb12?

2023-07-07 Thread Arno Lehmann
While I found most of this discussion not very appealing... Am 07.07.2023 um 15:05 schrieb jeremy ardley: ... One option I've not seen yet is a MS kernel running with a GNU framework. It's entirely feasible, but unlikely to date. How about this:  07/07/2023   15:19.32   /home/mobaxterm

Re: why bookworm isn't called deb12?

2023-07-07 Thread jeremy ardley
On 7/7/23 21:05, jeremy ardley wrote: On 7/7/23 20:47, Nate Bargmann wrote: What MS has done has never been relevant to the creation of GNU, X, or the Linux kernel. Agreed, those technologies were mostly independent of anything Microsoft has done. GNU is a clone of Unix so a derivative.

Re: why bookworm isn't called deb12?

2023-07-07 Thread jeremy ardley
On 7/7/23 20:47, Nate Bargmann wrote: What MS has done has never been relevant to the creation of GNU, X, or the Linux kernel. Agreed, those technologies were mostly independent of anything Microsoft has done. GNU is a clone of Unix so a derivative. MS is also a derivative but not much l

Re: why bookworm isn't called deb12?

2023-07-07 Thread Kent West
On Fri, Jul 7, 2023 at 4:00 AM Bret Busby wrote: > On 7/7/23 16:51, jeremy ardley wrote: > > > > On 7/7/23 16:30, Bret Busby wrote: > >> Microsoft didn't invent anything. > > > > > > I did not post that statement as the original poster of that statement. > > In responding to messages, please prop

Re: why bookworm isn't called deb12?

2023-07-07 Thread Nate Bargmann
* On 2023 07 Jul 06:54 -0500, fxkl4...@protonmail.com wrote: > > Microsoft for good or bad has made major advances in > > software and is responsible for a fair fraction of what we experience in > > our Linux world. > > true > if microsoft had ever produced a decent product > linux may not have ev

Re: why bookworm isn't called deb12?

2023-07-07 Thread jeremy ardley
On 7/7/23 19:28, debian-u...@howorth.org.uk wrote: That may be or not, but is irrelevant. Accurate attribution of quotes is important, IMHO, and not difficult to do. So doubling down on your mistake instead of a simple mea culpa means you move further down in my hierarchy of respect. :( I s

Re: camera problem seems to be solved

2023-07-07 Thread Max Nikulin
On 06/07/2023 18:57, gene heskett wrote: gene@coyote:~$ findmnt --target /home/gene/Pictures/Saw4Bruce (didn't work) TARGET SOURCE FSTYPE OPTIONS /home  /dev/md0p1 ext4   rw,relatime,errors=remount-ro,stripe=256 gene@coyote:~$ findmnt --target /home/gene/Pictures/Newjuly5dlds (worked) TARGET

Re: why bookworm isn't called deb12?

2023-07-07 Thread fxkl47BF
> Microsoft for good or bad has made major advances in > software and is responsible for a fair fraction of what we experience in > our Linux world. true if microsoft had ever produced a decent product linux may not have ever become as popular as it is

Re: Where is zenmap?

2023-07-07 Thread Greg Wooledge
On Fri, Jul 07, 2023 at 01:30:27PM +0200, Hans wrote: > does someone know, why and when zenmap was put off the repository? It would help if you said whether this was a package name, or a filename inside of another package. > I did not find a hint in the changelog of nmap, nor an advice > at htt

[SOLVED] Re: Where is zenmap?

2023-07-07 Thread Hans
Am Freitag, 7. Juli 2023, 13:30:27 CEST schrieben Sie: Answer myself: looked int wrong changelog, the Debian-changelog told the drop of zenmap due to old python version. Sorry for the noise. Best Hans > Hi, > > does someone know, why and when zenmap was put off the repository? > > I did no

Where is zenmap?

2023-07-07 Thread Hans
Hi, does someone know, why and when zenmap was put off the repository? I did not find a hint in the changelog of nmap, nor an advice at https://tracker.debian.org/pkg/nmap[1] . Zenmap disapperead sme years ago, but I totally missed it (as I am using nmap in commandline). However, I would lik

Re: why bookworm isn't called deb12?

2023-07-07 Thread debian-user
jeremy ardley wrote: > On 7/7/23 16:59, Bret Busby wrote: > >> On 7/7/23 16:30, Bret Busby wrote: > >>> Microsoft didn't invent anything. > > > > I did not post that statement as the original poster of that > > statement. > > Your comment about  BSOD strongly suggests you agree with the >

Re: Deactivating and Reactivating the display of a NUC 13

2023-07-07 Thread Stefan Schumacher
Sorry, forgot to mention that: It did move with the USB-C-Cable. It's a standard Amazon Basic 0,9m USB-C-to-DP-Cable, bought quite recently. Am Do., 6. Juli 2023 um 18:18 Uhr schrieb : > > Stefan Schumacher wrote: > > I have exchanged the connections - one NUC from HDMI to USB-C and the > > othe

Re: why bookworm isn't called deb12?

2023-07-07 Thread jeremy ardley
On 7/7/23 16:59, Bret Busby wrote: On 7/7/23 16:30, Bret Busby wrote: Microsoft didn't invent anything. I did not post that statement as the original poster of that statement. Your comment about  BSOD strongly suggests you agree with the sentiment. I reiterate. Microsoft for good or

Re: why bookworm isn't called deb12?

2023-07-07 Thread hlyg
On 7/7/23 10:14, Charles Curley wrote: What, you couldn't figure that hlyg is not a master of the English language from his|her|its sentence structure and vocabulary? Furthermore, this is a world-wide list. We get all levels of English mastery here, and courtesy calls for not assuming mastery

Re: why bookworm isn't called deb12?

2023-07-07 Thread Bret Busby
On 7/7/23 16:51, jeremy ardley wrote: On 7/7/23 16:30, Bret Busby wrote: Microsoft didn't invent anything. I did not post that statement as the original poster of that statement. In responding to messages, please properly quote the message, or excerpt of the message, to which the respons

Re: why bookworm isn't called deb12?

2023-07-07 Thread jeremy ardley
On 7/7/23 16:30, Bret Busby wrote: Microsoft didn't invent anything. This is highly off topic, but Microsoft 'invented' a lot of stuff much in the say way that many GNU developers 'invented' stuff. This is a process of continual adaptation of existing software and methodology. In the Mic

Re: Compatibility with Dell PowerEdge R250

2023-07-07 Thread Andrew M.A. Cater
On Fri, Jul 07, 2023 at 09:40:33AM +0300, Hassen Ibrahim wrote: > Greetings, > > I just purchased a Dell PowerEdge R250 server and was wondering if debian > 10 is compatible with this server. The server has an Intel Xeon E-2334 > processor, 32GB RAM and 6TB storage. I'll be looking forward to hear

Re: why bookworm isn't called deb12?

2023-07-07 Thread Bret Busby
On 7/7/23 12:28, to...@tuxteam.de wrote: Microsoft didn't invent anything. Yes they did - the highest level of system security - the Blue Screen Of Death - if a computer is made completely inaccessible, then it cannot be breached. Hence, the Blue Screen of Death is the highest level of syste