Re: W: Possible missing firmware /lib/firmware/brand/yada*

2023-06-21 Thread Felix Miata
bw composed on 2023-06-20 00:25 (UTC): > in-reply-to=<11580298-c877-35c1-cf54-99e56af75...@earthlink.net> >>> Is there something that can be done to avoid this screen and log >>> litter? > It's your machine, you could hack it out? possibly just #comment out and put > a /bin/true under it? Don

Re: Raspberry Pi Debian after upgrade Bullseye => Bookworm -- problem Setting up ca-certificates-java

2023-06-21 Thread Jeffrey Walton
On Thu, Jun 22, 2023 at 12:15 AM Rick Thomas wrote: > > I have a Raspberry Pi that is running Debian (*not* Raspbian) that I just > upgraded from Bullseye => Bookworm. > > Following the upgrade whenever I try to install the latest upgrades, I get > errors (see attached transcript). > > Can anybo

Raspberry Pi Debian after upgrade Bullseye => Bookworm -- problem Setting up ca-certificates-java

2023-06-21 Thread Rick Thomas
I have a Raspberry Pi that is running Debian (*not* Raspbian) that I just upgraded from Bullseye => Bookworm. Following the upgrade whenever I try to install the latest upgrades, I get errors (see attached transcript). Can anybody see what I've done wrong? Or what I can do to fix it? I'm not

Re: Code of conduct reminder.

2023-06-21 Thread paulf
On Wed, 21 Jun 2023 20:43:46 + Andy Smith wrote: > Hello, > > On Wed, Jun 21, 2023 at 05:52:20PM +0200, to...@tuxteam.de wrote: > > On Wed, Jun 21, 2023 at 10:18:18AM -0400, David Peacock wrote: > > > I'm seeing a shocking and disappointing amount of disrespect and > > > vulgarity of late fr

Re: package managers problem

2023-06-21 Thread Felix Miata
Andy Smith composed on 2023-06-21 21:07 (UTC): > You were using XFCE4 on Wayland under bullseye right? 2 for 3. https://www.linux.org/threads/xfce-wayland.43792/ says it could not have been on Wayland. The "wayland" that kept getting stuffed in his face was an entirely misleading error message

Re: package managers problem

2023-06-21 Thread gene heskett
On 6/21/23 17:08, Andy Smith wrote: Hello, On Wed, Jun 21, 2023 at 03:50:31PM -0400, gene heskett wrote: On 6/20/23 18:23, Andy Smith wrote: I think it's already been demonstrated in this thread that the desktop launcher for Synaptic calls policykit to start it, so if as you claim you do a sta

Re: Re: Debian freezes when power cable plugged

2023-06-21 Thread Zakaria Farhati
I forget some informations, I use laptop DELL LATITUDE E7450

Re: package managers problem

2023-06-21 Thread David Wright
On Wed 21 Jun 2023 at 16:14:07 (-0400), gene heskett wrote some words. In reply: Eh? Can I remind you that the Escape key is not a shift key; you just have to press the Escape key and /then/ the Zero key. Cheers, David.

Re: Qemu Numeric Lock problem

2023-06-21 Thread Alain D D Williams
On Wed, Jun 21, 2023 at 05:42:30PM +0100, Alain Williams wrote: > I have an issue with virtual machines under qemu. Caps Lock is also affected the same way. > Sequence as follows: > > I press Numeric Lock (or Num Lock) so that the keyboard indicator lights up. > > I then switch to the workspace

Desktop environments stealing app key shortcuts (Was Re: package managers problem)

2023-06-21 Thread Andy Smith
Hello, On Wed, Jun 21, 2023 at 04:14:07PM -0400, gene heskett wrote: > On 6/21/23 13:51, Roy J. Tellason, Sr. wrote: > > On Wednesday 21 June 2023 08:54:46 am Maurice Heskett wrote: > > > it pisses me off that F10 has been stolen by the window > > > managers to bring up a useless menu, making me f

Re: package managers problem

2023-06-21 Thread Andy Smith
Hi David, On Wed, Jun 21, 2023 at 04:53:06PM +0100, David Wright wrote: > On Wed 21 Jun 2023 at 12:31:20 (+), Andy Smith wrote: > > feature rich editors like vim and emacs can easily write to files > > through sudo or sftp, thus enabling seamless editing of files as > > different users and eve

Re: package managers problem

2023-06-21 Thread Andy Smith
Hello, On Wed, Jun 21, 2023 at 03:50:31PM -0400, gene heskett wrote: > On 6/20/23 18:23, Andy Smith wrote: > > I think it's already been demonstrated in this thread that the > > desktop launcher for Synaptic calls policykit to start it, so if as > > you claim you do a standard Debian install and t

Re: Code of conduct reminder.

2023-06-21 Thread Jeffrey Walton
On Wed, Jun 21, 2023 at 4:51 PM Andy Smith wrote: > > On Wed, Jun 21, 2023 at 06:52:57PM +, Andrew M.A. Cater wrote: > > Could we please finish the package managers thread at this point? > > Do you include in that the sub-thread of that where the OP is > (still) attempting to get Synaptic to w

Re: package managers problem

2023-06-21 Thread Andy Smith
Hello, On Wed, Jun 21, 2023 at 01:53:28PM -0400, gene heskett wrote: > Oh, and synaptic asks for a pw, I give it mine, and it runs just fine. Great, so hopefully you are now prepared to accept that all the things about Synaptic not working under Wayland were a huge blind alley. We still don't kn

Re: Code of conduct reminder.

2023-06-21 Thread Andy Smith
Hello, On Wed, Jun 21, 2023 at 06:52:57PM +, Andrew M.A. Cater wrote: > Could we please finish the package managers thread at this point? Do you include in that the sub-thread of that where the OP is (still) attempting to get Synaptic to work, and also the sub-threads this generates as the OP

Re: Code of conduct reminder.

2023-06-21 Thread Andy Smith
Hello, On Wed, Jun 21, 2023 at 05:52:20PM +0200, to...@tuxteam.de wrote: > On Wed, Jun 21, 2023 at 10:18:18AM -0400, David Peacock wrote: > > I'm seeing a shocking and disappointing amount of disrespect and vulgarity > > of late from several parties. If there is no active moderation possible, > >

Re: Debian freezes when power cable plugged

2023-06-21 Thread debian-user
Zakaria Farhati wrote: > Hello, > I have installed Debian 12 for a couple of weeks, 2 days ago, I > noticed that when I plug the power cable, the system/desktop does not > respond and freezes for 1 min. What should I do to solve this issue? I don't understand what you mean. What is 'plug' a power

Re: package managers problem

2023-06-21 Thread gene heskett
On 6/21/23 13:51, Roy J. Tellason, Sr. wrote: On Wednesday 21 June 2023 08:54:46 am Maurice Heskett wrote: mc for a file manager since my original install from floppies of redhat 5.0 in the late '90's. I am well aware of what it CAN do. There is no gui file manager that can touch it for utility,

Re: package managers problem

2023-06-21 Thread gene heskett
On 6/20/23 21:25, pa...@quillandmouse.com wrote: On Tue, 20 Jun 2023 17:56:36 -0400 gene heskett wrote: Like firefox, its big and complex, but unlike gedit has never trashed a file for me, gedit has ruined so many I finally banned it from my machines, all of them. Vim for the win! (kidding)

Re: package managers problem

2023-06-21 Thread gene heskett
On 6/20/23 18:23, Andy Smith wrote: Hello Gene, On Tue, Jun 20, 2023 at 06:01:00PM -0400, gene heskett wrote: Alright then the question is, is policykit the solution, or do we install it, then spend two weeks and wreck 7 installs configuring it to work? In other words, get to the specifics or f

Re: package managers problem

2023-06-21 Thread gene heskett
On 6/20/23 18:13, Andy Smith wrote: Hi Gene, On Tue, Jun 20, 2023 at 05:44:10PM -0400, gene heskett wrote: Please do not encourage Gene's fetish of running GUI apps as root. […] Andy, if you aren't behind dd-wrt for your home network, don't pretend to tell me what I can't do I think your

Re: Code of conduct reminder.

2023-06-21 Thread Andrew M.A. Cater
On Wed, Jun 21, 2023 at 10:18:18AM -0400, David Peacock wrote: > Hi folks, > > Just a friendly reminder of the code of conduct that we agree to be bound > by when we participate in this list, pasted below for convenience, but > originally from here [0]. > As a semi-moderator of the list and the

Re: package managers problem

2023-06-21 Thread gene heskett
On 6/21/23 11:56, David Wright wrote: On Wed 21 Jun 2023 at 08:29:55 (-0400), Maurice Heskett wrote: I have a gent on the Sheldon list at groups.io who would like to see how I solved a broke into pieces compound on my bigger lathe, linuxcnc can do all that and then some w/o a compound, so mine

Re: package managers problem

2023-06-21 Thread didier gaumet
Le 21/06/2023 à 19:53, gene heskett a écrit : welp, I just did a net install of at least half of bookworm, [...] Oh, and synaptic asks for a pw, I give it mine, and it runs just fine. Cheers, Gene Heskett. Glad to hear it, Gene :-)

Re: package managers problem

2023-06-21 Thread gene heskett
On 6/20/23 18:53, Stefan Monnier wrote: Probably you're running Synaptic on Wayland with root permission. Please restart your session without Wayland, or run Synaptic without root permission Thank you. That's the error I saw Correction: the above is not an error message. It's a guess of the

Re: package managers problem

2023-06-21 Thread Roy J. Tellason, Sr.
On Wednesday 21 June 2023 08:54:46 am Maurice Heskett wrote: > mc for a file manager since my original > install from floppies of redhat 5.0 in the late '90's. I am well aware > of what it CAN do. There is no gui file manager that can touch it for > utility, and it pisses me off that F10 has bee

Qemu Numeric Lock problem

2023-06-21 Thread Alain D D Williams
I have an issue with virtual machines under qemu. Sequence as follows: I press Numeric Lock (or Num Lock) so that the keyboard indicator lights up. I then switch to the workspace that contains a running virtual machine. The virtualised OS does not seem to be important, this happens with Debian a

Re: package managers problem

2023-06-21 Thread Felix Miata
Gene Heskett composed on 2023-06-21 08:54 (UTC-0400): > I KNOW what mc can do, do you? Hopefully you are aware of how simple it can be to find and fix broken permissions in a corrupted homedir using https://paste.opensuse.org/bf6c16e7e2e6 (full window width pane). -- Evolution as taught in pub

Re: package managers problem

2023-06-21 Thread David Wright
On Wed 21 Jun 2023 at 21:49:54 (+0700), Max Nikulin wrote: > The ~/.Xauthority file contains *secrets*, see Xsecurity(7), so I > would not encourage people to post its content. It's a cookie. You can just remove the file and let startx recreate it (or whatever DEs require as the equivalent). They

Re: Debian freezes when power cable plugged

2023-06-21 Thread zithro
On 21 Jun 2023 17:48, Zakaria Farhati wrote: Hello, I have installed Debian 12 for a couple of weeks, 2 days ago, I noticed that when I plug the power cable, the system/desktop does not respond and freezes for 1 min. What should I do to solve this issue? The first thing is to check logs for rel

Re: Code of conduct reminder.

2023-06-21 Thread zithro
On 21 Jun 2023 17:52, to...@tuxteam.de wrote: Since "shocking", "disrespect" and "vulgarity" are pretty subjective measures (they are still very legitimate, though), it would be nice and constructive if you gave people the chance to understand what you are taking issue with. Otherwise, we have n

Debian freezes when power cable plugged

2023-06-21 Thread Zakaria Farhati
Hello, I have installed Debian 12 for a couple of weeks, 2 days ago, I noticed that when I plug the power cable, the system/desktop does not respond and freezes for 1 min. What should I do to solve this issue? Regards, Zakaria

Re: OT: Upgrade Bullseye to Bookworm, and getting of rid of systemd?

2023-06-21 Thread tomas
On Wed, Jun 21, 2023 at 02:07:30PM +, Ottavio Caruso wrote: > Hi, > > I posted this to the debian-init-diversity, but it's a low traffic list and > I am posting here just in case, apologising for the possible off topic. (we don't appreciate top posting around here) > Weitergeleitete

Re: package managers problem

2023-06-21 Thread David Wright
On Wed 21 Jun 2023 at 08:29:55 (-0400), Maurice Heskett wrote: > I have a gent on the Sheldon list at groups.io who would like to see > how I solved a broke into pieces compound on my bigger lathe, linuxcnc > can do all that and then some w/o a compound, so mine is now a block > of a cast iron, ma

Re: package managers problem

2023-06-21 Thread David Wright
On Wed 21 Jun 2023 at 12:31:20 (+), Andy Smith wrote: > On Wed, Jun 21, 2023 at 12:57:41PM +0100, Joe wrote: > > On Tue, 20 Jun 2023 17:34:45 -0400 > > gene heskett wrote: > > > My fav editor, geany is also > > > dead for roots use for exactly he same reason, but runs just fine as > > > me. S

Re: Code of conduct reminder.

2023-06-21 Thread tomas
On Wed, Jun 21, 2023 at 10:18:18AM -0400, David Peacock wrote: > Hi folks, > > Just a friendly reminder of the code of conduct that we agree to be bound > by when we participate in this list, pasted below for convenience, but > originally from here [0]. No need to quote the thing in full. It gets

Re: package managers problem

2023-06-21 Thread tomas
On Wed, Jun 21, 2023 at 09:49:54PM +0700, Max Nikulin wrote: > On 21/06/2023 01:41, to...@tuxteam.de wrote: > > X clients these days need that to talk to the X server. On my box, > > for example: > > > > tomas@trotzki:~$ hexdump -C .Xauthority > > 01 00 00 07 74 72 6f 74 7a 6b

smplayer always crashes in Debian 12, bookworm

2023-06-21 Thread EDWARD JONES
I have a PC. I installed Debian 12, amd64, on my machine. Smplayer always crashes. The log file contains many X11 error messages. I have attached the log file. log.bin Description: Binary data

Re: package managers problem

2023-06-21 Thread Max Nikulin
On 21/06/2023 01:15, gene heskett wrote: gene@coyote:/usr/local/bin$ pkexec /usr/sbin/synaptic Invalid MIT-MAGIC-COOKIE-1 keyUnable to init server: Could not connect: Connection refused Failed to initialize GTK. Probably you're running Synaptic on Wayland with root permission. Please restart y

Re: package managers problem

2023-06-21 Thread Max Nikulin
On 21/06/2023 01:41, to...@tuxteam.de wrote: X clients these days need that to talk to the X server. On my box, for example: tomas@trotzki:~$ hexdump -C .Xauthority 01 00 00 07 74 72 6f 74 7a 6b 69 00 01 30 00 12 |trotzki..0..| 0010 4d 49 54 2d 4d 41 47 49 4

Re: qt.network.ssl problems (OT?)

2023-06-21 Thread Patrick Wiseman
On Tue, Jun 20, 2023 at 5:30 PM gene heskett wrote: > > I have no idea about the creality clone, but klipper runs perfectly fine > on a bananapi-m5 w/4gigs of dram in front of the printer. klipper > itself is a 2 part thing, one part replacing the usually crippled marlin > in the printers contro

Code of conduct reminder.

2023-06-21 Thread David Peacock
Hi folks, Just a friendly reminder of the code of conduct that we agree to be bound by when we participate in this list, pasted below for convenience, but originally from here [0]. I'm seeing a shocking and disappointing amount of disrespect and vulgarity of late from several parties. If there i

Re: package managers problem

2023-06-21 Thread Maurice Heskett
On 6/21/23 09:33, Andy Smith wrote: Hello, On Wed, Jun 21, 2023 at 09:23:41AM -0400, Maurice Heskett wrote: On 6/21/23 08:33, Andy Smith wrote: I'm sure there are other advanced editors that can do the same. Maybe geany can; I'm not familiar with it. You are missing out on one of linux's be

Re: package managers problem

2023-06-21 Thread Reco
Hi. On Wed, Jun 21, 2023 at 12:57:41PM +0100, Joe wrote: > On Tue, 20 Jun 2023 17:34:45 -0400 > gene heskett wrote: > > > > My fav editor, geany is also > > dead for roots use for exactly he same reason, but runs just fine as > > me. So there is a common problem. > > Well, you could d

Re: fetchamil / procmail as non root : unable to call script

2023-06-21 Thread BASSAGET Cédric
Hi Joel, thanks for your response, you solved my problem. But I still don't understand why ! :) with : $ cat ~/.procmailrc LOGFILE=procmail.log VERBOSE=yes :0 * ^Message-ID: \/.* | ./curl_molene.sh $MATCH $ cat ~/curl_molene.sh #!/bin/bash /usr/bin/curl "http://url/alerte.php?messageid=$1"; it w

Re: package managers problem

2023-06-21 Thread Andy Smith
Hello, On Wed, Jun 21, 2023 at 09:23:41AM -0400, Maurice Heskett wrote: > On 6/21/23 08:33, Andy Smith wrote: > > I'm sure there are other advanced editors that can do the same. > > Maybe geany can; I'm not familiar with it. > You are missing out on one of linux's better coding efforts Andy. I hav

Re: package managers problem

2023-06-21 Thread Maurice Heskett
On 6/21/23 08:33, Andy Smith wrote: Hello, On Wed, Jun 21, 2023 at 12:57:41PM +0100, Joe wrote: On Tue, 20 Jun 2023 17:34:45 -0400 gene heskett wrote: My fav editor, geany is also dead for roots use for exactly he same reason, but runs just fine as me. So there is a common problem. Well,

Re: package managers problem

2023-06-21 Thread Maurice Heskett
On 6/21/23 07:58, Joe wrote: On Tue, 20 Jun 2023 17:34:45 -0400 gene heskett wrote: My fav editor, geany is also dead for roots use for exactly he same reason, but runs just fine as me. So there is a common problem. Well, you could do it the right way: edit as you with geany in a work di

Re: package managers problem

2023-06-21 Thread Andy Smith
Hello, On Wed, Jun 21, 2023 at 12:57:41PM +0100, Joe wrote: > On Tue, 20 Jun 2023 17:34:45 -0400 > gene heskett wrote: > > My fav editor, geany is also > > dead for roots use for exactly he same reason, but runs just fine as > > me. So there is a common problem. > > Well, you could do it the ri

Re: package managers problem

2023-06-21 Thread Maurice Heskett
On 6/21/23 03:01, Jeffrey Walton wrote: On Wed, Jun 21, 2023 at 2:24 AM Maurice Heskett wrote: On 6/20/23 22:17, pa...@quillandmouse.com wrote: On Tue, 20 Jun 2023 17:03:24 -0400 Greg Wooledge wrote: [...] In a sensible design, the GUI part would run as you, and it would send requests to a

Re: package managers problem

2023-06-21 Thread Joe
On Tue, 20 Jun 2023 17:34:45 -0400 gene heskett wrote: > My fav editor, geany is also > dead for roots use for exactly he same reason, but runs just fine as > me. So there is a common problem. Well, you could do it the right way: edit as you with geany in a work directory, copy to/from the rea

Re: fetchamil / procmail as non root : unable to call script

2023-06-21 Thread Joel Roth
On Tue, Jun 20, 2023 at 07:52:24AM +0200, BASSAGET Cédric wrote: > Hello > I'm using fetchamil / procmail to fetch mails from an POP server and parse > it then launch a script or system call : > > > # cat .fetchmailrc > set logfile fetchmail.log > poll imaps.dom.tld proto POP3 > user "u...@dom.tl

Re: fetchamil / procmail as non root : unable to call script

2023-06-21 Thread Nicolas George
BASSAGET Cédric (12023-06-21): > Same result : log seems fine, but /tmp/test.txt still does not exist : > > procmail: Executing " echo "whoami" > /tmp/test.txt" > procmail: Assigning "LASTFOLDER= echo "whoami" > /tmp/test.txt" > Subject: test > Folder: echo "whoami" > /tmp/test.txt > 1825 The

Re: fetchamil / procmail as non root : unable to call script

2023-06-21 Thread BASSAGET Cédric
Hello Tomas, Same result : log seems fine, but /tmp/test.txt still does not exist : procmail: Executing " echo "whoami" > /tmp/test.txt" procmail: Assigning "LASTFOLDER= echo "whoami" > /tmp/test.txt" Subject: test Folder: echo "whoami" > /tmp/test.txt 1825 Regards Le mar. 20 juin 2023 à 08:

Re: PGP-Schluessel auf keys.openpgp.org?

2023-06-21 Thread Thomas Schmitt
Hi, sorry for this german mail which i sent to debian-user by mistake. (I was asked by the xorriso maintainer of another distro to upload my public PGP key to the keyserver which the distro uses. Hopefully i was able to fulfill that wish and did not publish any secrets of mine.) Have a nice day

Re: How to stop systemd or whatever does,to always tries to check and fix disk errors

2023-06-21 Thread Nicolas George
Mario Marietto (12023-06-21): > A rude behavior like yours The rude person here is you and only you. -- Nicolas George

Re: How to stop systemd or whatever does,to always tries to check and fix disk errors

2023-06-21 Thread Mario Marietto
@Nicolas George : what about if I don't understand what ? I presume that between us before all there are some relevant cultural differences. A rude behavior like yours is not tolerable,since I haven't offended you personally. I have only expressed opinions based on the cultural view of the place wh

Re: package managers problem

2023-06-21 Thread Felix Miata
Jeffrey Walton composed on 2023-06-21 03:00 (UTC-0400): > Maurice Heskett wrote: ... >> the only damned way I can >> login is as root! ... > Who are you? I thought a person named Gene was having trouble. Why are > you logging in as gene? Because

Re: PGP-Schluessel auf keys.openpgp.org?

2023-06-21 Thread Thomas Schmitt
Hi, > siehst Du eine Möglichkeit Deinen PGP-Schlüssel auf keys.openpgp.org zu > verwalten und die E-Mail-Adresse freizugeben? Ich habe die Ausgabe von gpg --export scdbac...@gmx.net hochgeladen. (Ich haette ja gerne inspiziert, was in dem Ausgabefile steht, aber soweit bringt mich "man gpg" nic

Re: How to stop systemd or whatever does,to always tries to check and fix disk errors

2023-06-21 Thread Nicolas George
Mario Marietto (12023-06-20): > Or am I missing something ? Yes, a lot. -- Nicolas George

Re: package managers problem

2023-06-21 Thread Nicolas George
to...@tuxteam.de (12023-06-21): > In my view, the user should have the last say. For > me, that is non-negociable :-) Plonk is not restricting anybody's freedom to have the last say. And plonk is clearly the only sane way of dealing with threads like this and the people who feed them

Re: package managers problem

2023-06-21 Thread Jeffrey Walton
On Wed, Jun 21, 2023 at 2:24 AM Maurice Heskett wrote: > On 6/20/23 22:17, pa...@quillandmouse.com wrote: > > On Tue, 20 Jun 2023 17:03:24 -0400 > > Greg Wooledge wrote: > > [...] > >> In a sensible design, the GUI part would run as you, and it would send > >> requests to a daemon that runs as ro