* 2023-06-13 01:37:36-0400, Timothy M. Butterworth wrote:
> Thanks for the info. I successfully installed Debian 12 on the MacBook
> Pro.
> The only thing I do not like is the bright white screen that shows up
> with the chime. It stays on for a long time with no status display
> before it eventu
On Fri, Jun 9, 2023 at 2:47 AM Teemu Likonen wrote:
> * 2023-06-08 19:32:13-0400, Timothy M. Butterworth wrote:
>
> > I have a 2012 MacBook Pro that I am going to install Debian Bookworm on.
> I
> > will not be keeping OSX on the Mac as it is no longer supported for
> > updates. Does anyone have
On 2023-06-12, pa...@quillandmouse.com wrote:
> Typically, when Debian installs a GUI environment (GNOME, XFCE4, etc.),
> it also installs lightdm or some other X session manager. This takes up
> memory, and isn't something I really need (as far as I know). Instead,
> I'm perfectly happy to have D
Le 12-06-2023, à 21:25:40 +0200, Michel Verdier a écrit :
On 2023-06-11, steve wrote:
After a few days with this configuration, same errors are still present.
I guess I'll have either to reinstall or go the postfix way.
Just to be sure before you reinstall can you provide
exim -bP | grep sy
David Wright wrote:
...
> That's just plain wrong. What was added to bookworm,
> the current stable release, on Release Day was a an
> official number (12 in this instance). Please stop
> trying to sow confusion about codenames.
ok.
songbird
David Wright wrote:
> songbird wrote:
...
> I can't understand that paragraph. Too many "this", "that"
> and "it"s to know what refers to what.
haha, that's ok, just let it go.
>> release notes may not be written and some cases may
>> even be forgotten about.
>
> Which release doesn't have a
On Mon, Jun 12, 2023 at 03:59:40PM -0400, pa...@quillandmouse.com wrote:
> Folks:
>
> Typically, when Debian installs a GUI environment (GNOME, XFCE4, etc.),
> it also installs lightdm or some other X session manager.
Nitpick: xdm is the X display manager. The X session is something completely
di
On Mon, Jun 12, 2023 at 09:53:03PM +0200, Smits Katze wrote:
> >What would be the difference to simply saying
> >
> > sudo -i
>
> The effect should be the same (and the command is more concise).
>
> Thanks for pointing it out.
Thank you for confirmation & sorry for the nitpick :)
Cheers
--
t
> Using "stable" in your sources.list is idiotic, and you should not do
> it. Ever.
I guess I'm an idiot, then.
I find it quite convenient because it says exactly what I want: I want
those machines to run Debian stable, whichever version that "stable"
happens to be at any particular time.
AFAIK
On 2023-06-12 at 18:55, David Wright wrote:
> On Sun 11 Jun 2023 at 19:18:15 (-0400), The Wanderer wrote:
>
>> On 2023-06-11 at 17:36, David Wright wrote:
>>> There are several sources:
>
> [ snipped the back and forth ]
>
> I'm sorry, but I just can't take seriously your not being acquainted
On Sun 11 Jun 2023 at 19:23:02 (-0400), songbird wrote:
> David Wright wrote:
> > songbird wrote:
> ...
> >> except that is a misconception for those who are running
> >> testing. we're not upgrading to a new release.
> >
> > I don't understand. Suite testing was codenamed bookworm until today,
On Sun 11 Jun 2023 at 09:46:49 (-0400), The Wanderer wrote:
> On 2023-06-11 at 09:34, Greg Wooledge wrote:
> > On Sun, Jun 11, 2023 at 09:20:41AM -0400, The Wanderer wrote:
> >> On 2023-06-11 at 09:02, Greg Wooledge wrote:
>
> >>> Using "stable" in your sources.list is idiotic, and you should
> >>
On Sun 11 Jun 2023 at 19:18:15 (-0400), The Wanderer wrote:
> On 2023-06-11 at 17:36, David Wright wrote:
> > On Sun 11 Jun 2023 at 09:32:04 (-0400), The Wanderer wrote:
> >> On 2023-06-11 at 09:05, David Wright wrote:
>
> >>> It would seem very simple, the first time this happens, to
> >>> config
On Sun 11 Jun 2023 at 19:06:02 (-0400), songbird wrote:
> Greg Wooledge wrote:
> ...
> > The overwhelming majority of people who track testing think that it's
> > a rolling release. It's not. It's actually a series of evolving
> > release candidates, with periods of great disruption interspersed
On Mon, Jun 12, 2023 at 09:35:13PM +, bw wrote:
> Right now I'm studying and trying to come up with a way to identify duplicate
> filenames and/or symlinks between /bin /sbin /lib, and /usr/bin /usr/sbin
> /usr/lib. I bet someone on the list could do it in a one line command.
Well, it's not *
On 2023-06-12 at 17:47, Bret Busby wrote:
> On 13/6/23 04:52, The Wanderer wrote:
>> I have to apologize; I completely misremembered the name of the program
>> that I was referencing, probably because of the filenames I store its
>> output under. hwinfo is absolutely not it. I would not consider
On 13/6/23 04:52, The Wanderer wrote:
On 2023-06-12 at 16:45, Bret Busby wrote:
On 13/6/23 04:30, The Wanderer wrote:
On 2023-06-12 at 16:06, Mick Ab wrote:
I wish to obtain information about the RAM installed on my PC using the
command line. The information needed is :-
Total RAM stored
N
for "mouse" read "trackpad" except when referring to external mouse
in-reply-to=
>> On Mon, Jun 12, 2023 at 11:24:00AM +0200, Bastien Durel wrote:
> During bookworm upgrade, I ran into some usrmerge failures, which led
> to an hard-to-fix situation
...
>>Well, that's somewhat terrifying. I looked at bugs.debian.org/usrmerge
>>and didn't see any bugs like this alr
On 2023-06-11 18:43, Peter Ehlert wrote:
On 6/11/23 10:23, mick.crane wrote:
On 2023-06-11 17:53, Peter Ehlert wrote:
On June 11, 2023 9:05:13 AM "mick.crane"
wrote:
Somebody gave me a Toshiba satellite laptop with the identifying
number
C50-A-19T
I think this is what is called a Dynabook.
Brad McDonald wrote:
> IS there any way to make multiple selections of a file,it's dependencies
> and dependant packages rather than one by one as that is very slow.For
> example 3 nights ago I installed all the "electrical" by first the named
> folder then the dependencies then the dependant pack
On 6/12/23 20:44, Brad McDonald wrote:
IS there any way to make multiple selections of a file,it's dependencies and dependant
packages rather than one by one as that is very slow.For example 3 nights ago I installed
all the "electrical" by first the named folder then the dependencies then the
Mick Ab wrote:
> I have seen the dmidecode command being used, but the reliability of the
> information returned is not reliable.
You keep saying that, but have you got any evidence of it? And
if so, it is the unreliability of omission or making things up,
or being random in the returned data?
-
IS there any way to make multiple selections of a file,it's dependencies
and dependant packages rather than one by one as that is very slow.For
example 3 nights ago I installed all the "electrical" by first the named
folder then the dependencies then the dependant packages.The following 2
nights I
On 2023-06-12 at 16:45, Bret Busby wrote:
> On 13/6/23 04:30, The Wanderer wrote:
>
>> On 2023-06-12 at 16:06, Mick Ab wrote:
>>
>>> I wish to obtain information about the RAM installed on my PC using the
>>> command line. The information needed is :-
>>>
>>> Total RAM stored
>>> Number of sticks
On 13/6/23 04:30, The Wanderer wrote:
On 2023-06-12 at 16:06, Mick Ab wrote:
I wish to obtain information about the RAM installed on my PC using the
command line. The information needed is :-
Total RAM stored
Number of sticks used and amount of RAM on each stick
Type of RAM e.g. DDR4
Speed of
Roger Price composed on 2023-06-12 22:25 (UTC+0200):
> According to man inxi the command "inxi -mxx" tries to improve on dmidecode.
h2 on irc://irc.oftc.net/smxi (IRC) is inxi's creator. 3.3.27-00 is the current
version, released on 2023-05-07. The devel version is named pinxi, currently at
3.3.2
On 2023-06-12 at 16:06, Mick Ab wrote:
> I wish to obtain information about the RAM installed on my PC using the
> command line. The information needed is :-
>
> Total RAM stored
> Number of sticks used and amount of RAM on each stick
> Type of RAM e.g. DDR4
> Speed of RAM e.g. 3200 MHz
> Manufac
On Mon, 12 Jun 2023, Mick Ab wrote:
I have seen the dmidecode command being used, but the reliability of the
information returned is not reliable.
Is there any command that will reliably give the required RAM information ?
According to man inxi the command "inxi -mxx" tries to improve on dmid
On Mon, 12 Jun 2023 21:06:06 +0100
Mick Ab wrote:
> I have seen the dmidecode command being used, but the reliability of
> the information returned is not reliable.
>
> Is there any command that will reliably give the required RAM
> information ?
Any tool, dmidecode included, is no better than
On Mon, Jun 12, 2023 at 03:59:40PM -0400, pa...@quillandmouse.com wrote:
> I'm perfectly happy to have Debian give me a console login prompt, and
> then I issue startx.
That's what I use too. As well as several other people who post regularly
on this mailing list.
Folks:
Typically, when Debian installs a GUI environment (GNOME, XFCE4, etc.),
it also installs lightdm or some other X session manager. This takes up
memory, and isn't something I really need (as far as I know). Instead,
I'm perfectly happy to have Debian give me a console login prompt, and
then
>What would be the difference to simply saying
>
> sudo -i
The effect should be the same (and the command is more concise).
Thanks for pointing it out.
--
PGP: FF815935D964B268656B43DCB8037830D522909E
I wish to obtain information about the RAM installed on my PC using the
command line. The information needed is :-
Total RAM stored
Number of sticks used and amount of RAM on each stick
Type of RAM e.g. DDR4
Speed of RAM e.g. 3200 MHz
Manufacturer and model number of RAM
I have seen the dmidecode
On 2023-06-11, steve wrote:
>>> After a few days with this configuration, same errors are still present.
>>>
>>> I guess I'll have either to reinstall or go the postfix way.
>>
>>Just to be sure before you reinstall can you provide
>>exim -bP | grep syslog
>
> syslog_duplication
Docs indicate it
On Mon, Jun 12, 2023 at 06:54:40PM +0200, Smits Katze wrote:
> Debian wiki describes how to configure a read-only rootfs and how to
> run apt and unattended-upgrades in such a filesystem:
> https://wiki.debian.org/ReadonlyRoot
>
> I would like to report that I am having considerable success with t
On Mon, Jun 12, 2023 at 5:48 AM Bastien Durel
wrote:
>
> Hello,
>
> During bookworm upgrade, I ran into some usrmerge failures, which led
> to an hard-to-fix situation
>
> Paramétrage de usrmerge (35) ...
>
> FATAL ERROR:
> Both /lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libidn.so.11 and
> /usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/l
On Sun, 11 Jun 2023 21:05:32 +0200
CL wrote:
...
> Only topic was the restart of the Nextcloud. They don't wanted the
> standard PHP 8.2.
> Solution was a downgrade to PHP8.0
That's unusual - Debian Stable having too *recent* software :|
FWIW, I upgraded my Debian Stable Nextcloud (26.02 via
On Mon, 12 Jun 2023 18:02:13 +0100
Brian wrote:
> On Mon 12 Jun 2023 at 08:50:54 -0400, Celejar wrote:
>
> > On Sun, 11 Jun 2023 12:31:31 -0400
> > Dan Ritter wrote:
> >
> > >
> > > The machine I am typing on has been upgraded from bullseye to
> > > bookworm. TL;DR: boring, which is good.
> >
Debian wiki describes how to configure a read-only rootfs and how to
run apt and unattended-upgrades in such a filesystem:
https://wiki.debian.org/ReadonlyRoot
I would like to report that I am having considerable success with the
following simple command sequence:
sudo su -l
unshare -m
# in the n
On 2023-06-12 06:32 +0200, to...@tuxteam.de wrote:
> On Sun, Jun 11, 2023 at 09:27:11PM -0400, pa...@quillandmouse.com wrote:
>
> [...]
>
>> Nice try. However, this isn't allowed, as it would apparently remove
>> libcrypt1:i386, which is apparently a "system-critical" package. I'm
>> not sure how
On Mon 12 Jun 2023 at 08:50:54 -0400, Celejar wrote:
> On Sun, 11 Jun 2023 12:31:31 -0400
> Dan Ritter wrote:
>
> >
> > The machine I am typing on has been upgraded from bullseye to
> > bookworm. TL;DR: boring, which is good.
>
> ...
>
> > I read the release notes.
> >
> > Changed sources.li
On Mon, 12 Jun 2023 08:50:54 -0400
Celejar wrote:
> On Sun, 11 Jun 2023 12:31:31 -0400
> Dan Ritter wrote:
>
> >
> > The machine I am typing on has been upgraded from bullseye to
> > bookworm. TL;DR: boring, which is good.
>
> ...
>
> > I read the release notes.
> >
> > Changed sources.li
On 2023-06-12 10:24 -0400, Greg Wooledge wrote:
> On Mon, Jun 12, 2023 at 09:45:15AM -0400, Greg Wooledge wrote:
>> I think I might try grabbing an older-than-buster version of debootstrap
>> out of snapshot.debian.org and see if I can manage to reproduce something.
>> But don't count on my succes
On Mon, Jun 12, 2023 at 12:26:35PM +0200, the2nd wrote:
> i am developing an open source OTP authentication server and currently
> searching for someone to test it. I hope its okay to ask for this on this
> list.
>
> There is no documentation yet but i can write a step by step guide if
> someone i
On Mon, Jun 12, 2023 at 09:45:15AM -0400, Greg Wooledge wrote:
> I think I might try grabbing an older-than-buster version of debootstrap
> out of snapshot.debian.org and see if I can manage to reproduce something.
> But don't count on my success.
I've succeeded in *partially* reproducing this err
On Mon, Jun 12, 2023 at 11:24:00AM +0200, Bastien Durel wrote:
>
> During bookworm upgrade, I ran into some usrmerge failures, which led
> to an hard-to-fix situation
>
> Paramétrage de usrmerge (35) ...
>
> FATAL ERROR:
> Both /lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libidn.so.11 and
> /usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/
On Mon, 12 Jun 2023 08:50:54 -0400
Celejar wrote:
> This is the part that always stresses me out; I often have changes in
> the default config files that I don't want to lose, but I'm also
> worried about not getting the latest versions of the config files. I
> usually try to accept the new files
On Sun, 11 Jun 2023 12:31:31 -0400
Dan Ritter wrote:
>
> The machine I am typing on has been upgraded from bullseye to
> bookworm. TL;DR: boring, which is good.
...
> I read the release notes.
>
> Changed sources.list entries.
>
> Ran apt update.
>
> I ran apt upgrade --without-new-pkgs bef
Hi,
i am developing an open source OTP authentication server and currently
searching for someone to test it. I hope its okay to ask for this on
this list.
There is no documentation yet but i can write a step by step guide if
someone is interested in testing my project.
Installation instruc
Hello,
During bookworm upgrade, I ran into some usrmerge failures, which led
to an hard-to-fix situation
Paramétrage de usrmerge (35) ...
FATAL ERROR:
Both /lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libidn.so.11 and
/usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libidn.so.11 exist.
You can try correcting the errors reported and runnin
Anyone with an encrypted root partition should probably follow the
advice in the NEWS for cryptsetup from the last release (buster) which
at the time said.
On systems which do rely on the initramfs integration, one can mark
'cryptsetup-initramfs' as being manually installed (so APT never
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