On Fri, Jun 09, 2023 at 05:52:48PM +0100, mick.crane wrote:
> On 2023-06-08 19:08, Mike Castle wrote:
>
> > I couldn't afford a large enough harddrive for the second system, nor
> > ethernet cards (and a local shop was going to charge me $50 to make a
> > crossover cable if I went that route!).
>
On Fri, Jun 09, 2023 at 08:00:51PM -0400, Greg Wooledge wrote:
> On Fri, Jun 09, 2023 at 05:45:04PM -0500, S M wrote:
> > Regarding a workaround, I ended up creating a symlink /usr/local/bin/sh
> > pointing to bash and chsh to that.
>
> Why? Why not simply chsh to /bin/bash if that's what you wan
On Fri, Jun 09, 2023 at 05:45:04PM -0500, S M wrote:
> Regarding a workaround, I ended up creating a symlink /usr/local/bin/sh
> pointing to bash and chsh to that.
Why? Why not simply chsh to /bin/bash if that's what you want as your
interactive shell?
Are you somehow relying on bash's disabling
On 2023-06-09 13:00, gene heskett wrote:
>> Did you log out and back in, or did you simply start
>> a new XFCE4 terminal within an existing session?
>>
>> The .xsessionrc file is only read
>> during X session startup, not when running
>> various applications like terminal emulators.
>>
>>
>>> (
On Fri, Jun 09, 2023 at 04:07:03PM -0400, Greg Wooledge wrote:
> Nothing you wrote here is incorrect, but none of it explains the policy
> change that has occurred. I won't even say it's a bad policy change.
> It makes at least a little bit of sense...
Yeah, I'd also like to know what was the re
Greg Wooledge wrote:
...
> Huh. Well, that's rather important, isn't it?
>
> The package maintainers seem to have forgotten to TELL us this, at least
> in the NEWS.Debian.gz file, which still says only:
>
> unicorn:/usr/share/doc/dash$ zless NEWS.Debian.gz
> dash (0.5.5.1-2.1) unstable; urgency=l
On Fri, Jun 09, 2023 at 08:20:52PM +0200, didier gaumet wrote:
> Le 09/06/2023 à 15:38, S M a écrit :
> > I noticed on a newly installed system with Debian 12 that dpkg-reconfigure
> > no longer allows to switch the /bin/sh symlink from dash to bash. This is
> > apparently intentional as per the
On Fri 09 Jun 2023 at 09:41:23 (-0400), gene heskett wrote:
> On 6/9/23 06:51, David Wright wrote:
> > On Fri 09 Jun 2023 at 06:20:07 (-0400), gene heskett wrote:
> > > On 6/9/23 00:46, to...@tuxteam.de wrote:
> > > > On Thu, Jun 08, 2023 at 09:08:59PM -0400, gene heskett wrote:
> > > >
> > > > [.
On Fri 09 Jun 2023 at 13:12:36 (+0100), James Addison wrote:
> On Fri, 9 Jun 2023 11:52:28 +0100, wrote:
> > On Fri 09 Jun 2023 at 10:44:23 (+0100), James Addison wrote:
> > > (in terms of practicalities: I realize that if there were no
> > > initrd/initramfs, then the kernel would need to know o
On 6/9/23 11:40, Greg Wooledge wrote:
On Fri, Jun 09, 2023 at 09:47:56AM -0400, gene heskett wrote:
On 6/9/23 09:33, Greg Wooledge wrote:
Start with .xsessionrc (the Debian hack) and see if that works. Put a
PATH modification in there, and also put something like
export GENETEST=hello
in a
/etc/grub.d/05_debian_theme 6059/6260
96%
# First check whether the user has specified a background image explicitly.
# If so, try to use it. Don't try the other possibilities in that case
# (#608263).
if [ -n "${GRUB_BACKGROUND+x}" ]; then
set_background
Le 09/06/2023 à 15:38, S M a écrit :
Good day.
I noticed on a newly installed system with Debian 12 that dpkg-reconfigure no
longer allows to switch the /bin/sh symlink from dash to bash. This is
apparently intentional as per the following:
https://launchpad.net/debian/+source/dash/0.5.11+git
Am Freitag, 9. Juni 2023, 18:37:14 CEST schrieb Stefan Monnier:
Hi Stefan,
this might e a problem of your BIOS. However, if your BIOS does not support
booting from USB,
here is a trick:
You can download a bootable CD-Rom from this site:
https://www.plop.at[1]
Look for the Bootmgr. It is a liv
On 2023-06-08 19:08, Mike Castle wrote:
I couldn't afford a large enough harddrive for the second system, nor
ethernet cards (and a local shop was going to charge me $50 to make a
crossover cable if I went that route!).
swapping around the red and red-white with the green and green-white
wire
On 6/8/23 11:36, Rodolfo Medina wrote:
I want to install Debian on a new machine but don't manage to boot from USB
stick. (I can do so regularly with another machine, so the USB stick is ok and
so is the Debian netinst I burned onto it.) At the boot I press F9 and a menu
appears where I can c
> I want to install Debian on a new machine but don't manage to boot
> from USB stick. (I can do so regularly with another machine, so the
> USB stick is ok and so is the Debian netinst I burned onto it.) At
> the boot I press F9 and a menu appears where I can choose to boot from
> USB stick; but
> What you should consider is that this initramfs setup allows you to
> pull the disk from your (possibly dead) computer and stuff it into
> some other (with hopefully similar architecture) and you have at
> least a fair chance that the thing will boot, because at initramfs
> time some modules are
On 9/6/23 23:34, Bret Busby wrote:
On 9/6/23 18:43, Rodolfo Medina wrote:
Rodolfo Medina writes:
I want to install Debian on a new machine but don't manage to boot
from USB
stick. (I can do so regularly with another machine, so the USB stick
is ok
and so is the Debian netinst I burned onto
On 10/6/23 00:05, Bret Busby wrote:
On 9/6/23 23:34, Bret Busby wrote:
On 9/6/23 18:43, Rodolfo Medina wrote:
Rodolfo Medina writes:
I want to install Debian on a new machine but don't manage to boot
from USB
stick. (I can do so regularly with another machine, so the USB
stick is ok
and so
On 2023-06-09 at 12:00, Charles Curley wrote:
> On Fri, 9 Jun 2023 13:38:25 +
> S M wrote:
>
>> I noticed on a newly installed system with Debian 12 that
>> dpkg-reconfigure no longer allows to switch the /bin/sh symlink from
>> dash to bash.
>
> You can still change it manually (rm ; ln -s
On Fri, 9 Jun 2023 13:38:25 +
S M wrote:
> I noticed on a newly installed system with Debian 12 that
> dpkg-reconfigure no longer allows to switch the /bin/sh symlink from
> dash to bash.
You can still change it manually (rm ; ln -s).
--
Does anybody read signatures any more?
https://char
On 9/6/23 18:43, Rodolfo Medina wrote:
Rodolfo Medina writes:
I want to install Debian on a new machine but don't manage to boot from USB
stick. (I can do so regularly with another machine, so the USB stick is ok
and so is the Debian netinst I burned onto it.) At the boot I press F9 and a
me
On Fri, Jun 09, 2023 at 09:47:56AM -0400, gene heskett wrote:
> On 6/9/23 09:33, Greg Wooledge wrote:
> > Start with .xsessionrc (the Debian hack) and see if that works. Put a
> > PATH modification in there, and also put something like
> >
> > export GENETEST=hello
> >
> in a $HOME/.xsessionrc h
On Fri, Jun 09, 2023 at 07:20:29AM -0700, Kushal Kumaran wrote:
> >From the comments on
> https://salsa.debian.org/debian/dash/-/commit/c322a1c9fc6be11d7eb4439407c0a398aba8bbb7,
> this is intentional and permanent. /bin/sh pointing to bash is no
> longer supported.
Huh. Well, that's rather impor
On 6/9/23 10:23, to...@tuxteam.de wrote:
On Fri, Jun 09, 2023 at 09:47:56AM -0400, gene heskett wrote:
On 6/9/23 09:33, Greg Wooledge wrote:
On Fri, Jun 09, 2023 at 09:25:25AM -0400, gene heskett wrote:
On 6/9/23 07:33, Greg Wooledge wrote:
Finally, remember that .xsession is run by /bin/sh,
On 6/9/23 10:22, to...@tuxteam.de wrote:
On Fri, Jun 09, 2023 at 09:47:56AM -0400, gene heskett wrote:
On 6/9/23 09:33, Greg Wooledge wrote:
On Fri, Jun 09, 2023 at 09:25:25AM -0400, gene heskett wrote:
On 6/9/23 07:33, Greg Wooledge wrote:
Finally, remember that .xsession is run by /bin/sh,
On Fri, Jun 09, 2023 at 09:47:56AM -0400, gene heskett wrote:
> On 6/9/23 09:33, Greg Wooledge wrote:
> > On Fri, Jun 09, 2023 at 09:25:25AM -0400, gene heskett wrote:
> > > On 6/9/23 07:33, Greg Wooledge wrote:
> > > > Finally, remember that .xsession is run by /bin/sh, not by your login
> > > > s
On Fri, Jun 09 2023 at 01:38:25 PM, S M wrote:
> Good day.
>
> I noticed on a newly installed system with Debian 12 that
> dpkg-reconfigure no longer allows to switch the /bin/sh symlink from
> dash to bash. This is apparently intentional as per the following:
>
> https://launchpad.net/debian/+sou
Good day.
I noticed on a newly installed system with Debian 12 that dpkg-reconfigure no
longer allows to switch the /bin/sh symlink from dash to bash. This is
apparently intentional as per the following:
https://launchpad.net/debian/+source/dash/0.5.11+git20210903+057cd650a4ed-4
I couldn't fin
On 6/9/23 09:33, Greg Wooledge wrote:
On Fri, Jun 09, 2023 at 09:25:25AM -0400, gene heskett wrote:
On 6/9/23 07:33, Greg Wooledge wrote:
Finally, remember that .xsession is run by /bin/sh, not by your login
shell. So, if you've got bash syntax in .profile (or anything it dots
in, such as .bas
On 6/9/23 06:51, David Wright wrote:
On Fri 09 Jun 2023 at 06:20:07 (-0400), gene heskett wrote:
On 6/9/23 00:46, to...@tuxteam.de wrote:
On Thu, Jun 08, 2023 at 09:08:59PM -0400, gene heskett wrote:
[...]
Perhaps I've ben mistaken, but the files in /etc/udev/rules.d are not the
same as /lib
On Fri, Jun 09, 2023 at 09:25:25AM -0400, gene heskett wrote:
> On 6/9/23 07:33, Greg Wooledge wrote:
> > Finally, remember that .xsession is run by /bin/sh, not by your login
> > shell. So, if you've got bash syntax in .profile (or anything it dots
> > in, such as .bashrc), then you cannot safely
On 6/9/23 07:33, Greg Wooledge wrote:
On Fri, Jun 09, 2023 at 11:51:15AM +0100, David Wright wrote:
On Fri 09 Jun 2023 at 06:20:07 (-0400), gene heskett wrote:
Change of subject:
I have a mod I make to the $PATH which I've put in .profile, but I've
failed to find a place to make it autoexec wh
wrote:
...
> Perhaps you have a ~/.bash_profile, which then would take precedence over
> your ~/.profile (people who want to have both usually source ~/.profile
> from ~/.bash_profile. Writing shell-independent code is left as an exercise
> to the reader, though). Perhaps your PATH is not exported
Greg Wooledge wrote:
...
> I must have said this a hundred times, but... it depends on HOW you login.
yes! login vs. non-login.
the rest left in because it is useful and notable.
> The only times .profile is read are when you have a login shell (from a
> pure text console login, or an ssh
On 09/06/2023 17:54, Rodolfo Medina wrote:
...And now I tried even with an MS Windows 10 installation CDROM but the
problem remains!
Check what devices are enabled in boot settings in system setup (BIOS or
firmware setting).
When you switching off a computer with windows, perhaps actually it
On 6/9/23 07:25, to...@tuxteam.de wrote:
[...]
I quote in full from the bash man page, section "INVOCATION" (I assume your
shell is bash):
bash it is, and I've even an older printout. I'll pursue this as I was
not aware of it. Thank you Tomas.
INVOCATION
A login shell is one whose
On Fri, 9 Jun 2023 11:52:28 +0100, wrote:
> On Fri 09 Jun 2023 at 10:44:23 (+0100), James Addison wrote:
> > On Fri, 9 Jun 2023 at 05:38, wrote:
> > > On Thu, Jun 08, 2023 at 09:57:31PM +0100, James Addison wrote:
> > >
> > > [...]
> > >
> > > > Naturally a block device isn't a game cartridge - t
On Fri, Jun 09, 2023 at 07:36:42AM -0400, Greg Wooledge wrote:
> On Fri, Jun 09, 2023 at 06:20:07AM -0400, gene heskett wrote:
> > On 6/9/23 00:46, to...@tuxteam.de wrote:
> > > This is actually the classical pattern of "layered configuration", which
> > > is widespread in the UNIX world. You see t
On Fri, Jun 09, 2023 at 06:20:07AM -0400, gene heskett wrote:
> On 6/9/23 00:46, to...@tuxteam.de wrote:
> > This is actually the classical pattern of "layered configuration", which
> > is widespread in the UNIX world. You see that often with a system config
> > which can be overridden by a user co
On Fri, Jun 09, 2023 at 11:51:15AM +0100, David Wright wrote:
> On Fri 09 Jun 2023 at 06:20:07 (-0400), gene heskett wrote:
> > Change of subject:
> >
> > I have a mod I make to the $PATH which I've put in .profile, but I've
> > failed to find a place to make it autoexec when I login. And I'm tire
On Fri, Jun 09, 2023 at 06:20:07AM -0400, gene heskett wrote:
> On 6/9/23 00:46, to...@tuxteam.de wrote:
> > On Thu, Jun 08, 2023 at 09:08:59PM -0400, gene heskett wrote:
> >
> > [...]
> >
> > > Perhaps I've ben mistaken, but the files in /etc/udev/rules.d are not the
> > > same as /lib/udev/rule
On Fri, 9 Jun 2023, Rodolfo Medina wrote:
Rodolfo Medina writes:
Rodolfo Medina writes:
I want to install Debian on a new machine but don't manage to boot from USB
stick. (I can do so regularly with another machine, so the USB stick is ok
and so is the Debian netinst I burned onto it.) A
i’ m with a hp 6830s computer bullseye i386 intel pentium dual cpu t3400
and the fan services are not working.i write system to enable fancontrol
and systemctl lm-sensors enable but worse when i write systemctl status
fancontrol, i see Active failed Result exit-code and i write
/usr/sbin/fancontrol
On Fri 09 Jun 2023 at 10:44:23 (+0100), James Addison wrote:
> On Fri, 9 Jun 2023 at 05:38, wrote:
> > On Thu, Jun 08, 2023 at 09:57:31PM +0100, James Addison wrote:
> >
> > [...]
> >
> > > Naturally a block device isn't a game cartridge - the former could
> > > contain many different operating sy
Rodolfo Medina writes:
> Rodolfo Medina writes:
>
>> I want to install Debian on a new machine but don't manage to boot from USB
>> stick. (I can do so regularly with another machine, so the USB stick is ok
>> and so is the Debian netinst I burned onto it.) At the boot I press F9 and
>> a menu
On Fri 09 Jun 2023 at 06:20:07 (-0400), gene heskett wrote:
> On 6/9/23 00:46, to...@tuxteam.de wrote:
> > On Thu, Jun 08, 2023 at 09:08:59PM -0400, gene heskett wrote:
> >
> > [...]
> >
> > > Perhaps I've ben mistaken, but the files in /etc/udev/rules.d are not the
> > > same as /lib/udev/rules.
On 6/9/23 03:46, Michael Biebl wrote:
Not sure if it's fixed in Bookworm already. The upstream fix went in at
v253. Bookworm is at 252.6 which doesn't exist as a tag in the upstream
repo so I cannot check if the fix was backported.
stable/point releases can be found in the systemd-stable reposi
Rodolfo Medina writes:
> I want to install Debian on a new machine but don't manage to boot from USB
> stick. (I can do so regularly with another machine, so the USB stick is ok
> and so is the Debian netinst I burned onto it.) At the boot I press F9 and a
> menu appears where I can choose to b
On 6/9/23 00:46, to...@tuxteam.de wrote:
On Thu, Jun 08, 2023 at 09:08:59PM -0400, gene heskett wrote:
[...]
Perhaps I've ben mistaken, but the files in /etc/udev/rules.d are not the
same as /lib/udev/rules.d, so which one actually rules?
The one in /etc, as David said. Unless it doesn't exi
On Fri, 9 Jun 2023 at 05:38, wrote:
>
> On Thu, Jun 08, 2023 at 09:57:31PM +0100, James Addison wrote:
>
> [...]
>
> > Naturally a block device isn't a game cartridge - the former could
> > contain many different operating systems, with the potential for
> > dynamic resizing. But it feels like we
Am 08.06.2023 um 20:36 schrieb Rodolfo Medina:
> I want to install Debian on a new machine but don't manage to boot from USB
> stick. (I can do so regularly with another machine, so the USB stick is ok
> and
> so is the Debian netinst I burned onto it.) At the boot I press F9 and a menu
> appear
On 6/9/23 00:59, Rodolfo Medina wrote:
David Christensen writes:
On 6/8/23 11:36, Rodolfo Medina wrote:
I want to install Debian on a new machine but don't manage to boot from USB
stick. (I can do so regularly with another machine, so the USB stick is ok
and
so is the Debian netinst I burned o
Bret Busby writes:
> If you go to
>
> https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-users/2022-July/thread.html
>
> and scroll down to the thread starting with the subject "Questions about
> Linux Mint and this list", read that message, and, work your way through the
> responses, especially, the ones
On 6/9/23 15:40, DdB wrote:
Thank DdB! i have some success
/usr/share/desktop-base/homeworld-theme/grub/
boot screen can be changed by replacing file in location above
i haven't been able to change login background
Very strange: if i use my favorite search engine, i find dozens of
place
"Thomas Schmitt" writes:
> I understand from the link that it has a 64 bit Celeron J4105 CPU.
> So its EFI would want an "amd64" ISO.
>
> [...]
>
> You could try with
>
> https://cdimage.debian.org/debian-cd/current/amd64/iso-cd/debian-11.7.0-amd64-netinst.iso
> and CSM disabled.
Unfortunatel
David Christensen writes:
> On 6/8/23 11:36, Rodolfo Medina wrote:
>> I want to install Debian on a new machine but don't manage to boot from USB
>> stick. (I can do so regularly with another machine, so the USB stick is ok
>> and
>> so is the Debian netinst I burned onto it.) At the boot I pre
Not sure if it's fixed in Bookworm already. The upstream fix went in at
v253. Bookworm is at 252.6 which doesn't exist as a tag in the upstream
repo so I cannot check if the fix was backported.
stable/point releases can be found in the systemd-stable repository. See
https://github.com/systemd/sy
Am 09.06.2023 um 09:05 schrieb hlyg:
>
> On 6/9/23 09:01, DdB wrote:
>>
>> STFW: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xAi2UfUkp_A
>> +
>> https://unix.stackexchange.com/questions/349234/how-to-show-kernel-boot-messages-by-modifying-grub-config-files
>>
>>
>> .
>
> Thank DdB! i have some success
>
>
[3rd attempt; first two flagged as spam]
On Thu 08 Jun 2023 at 17:11:01 (+0200), Roger Price wrote:
> On Thu, 8 Jun 2023, Greg Wooledge wrote:
>
> > Roger, what is the full command that you used? When I tested with
> > "import foo.png" it worked as expected.
One might assume that that's because
On 6/9/23 09:01, DdB wrote:
STFW: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xAi2UfUkp_A
+
https://unix.stackexchange.com/questions/349234/how-to-show-kernel-boot-messages-by-modifying-grub-config-files
.
Thank DdB! i have some success
/usr/share/desktop-base/homeworld-theme/grub/
boot screen can
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