Re: Please help with not booting from USB so to install Debian

2023-06-08 Thread Thomas Schmitt
Hi, i wrote: > > I understand from the link that it has a 64 bit Celeron J4105 CPU. > > So its EFI would want an "amd64" ISO. Charles Curley wrote: > A Celeron should be able to run i386 Debian. But the amd64 might be a > better use of its capabilities. Other than with legacy BIOS, EFI looks for

Re: 60-serial.rules, broken

2023-06-08 Thread tomas
On Thu, Jun 08, 2023 at 09:08:59PM -0400, gene heskett wrote: [...] > Perhaps I've ben mistaken, but the files in /etc/udev/rules.d are not the > same as /lib/udev/rules.d, so which one actually rules? The one in /etc, as David said. Unless it doesn't exist. This is actually the classical patte

Re: Running Debian without initramfs?

2023-06-08 Thread tomas
On Thu, Jun 08, 2023 at 09:57:31PM +0100, James Addison wrote: [...] > Naturally a block device isn't a game cartridge - the former could > contain many different operating systems, with the potential for > dynamic resizing. But it feels like we haven't landed on the simplest > way to approximat

Re: fancontrol

2023-06-08 Thread Aleix Piulachs
El El vie, 9 jun 2023 a las 3:02, Aleix Piulachs escribió: > i’ m with a hp 6830s computer bullseye i386 > and the fan services are not working.i write system to enable fancontrol > and systemctl lm-sensors enable but worse when i write systemctl status > fancontrol, i see Active failed Result ex

Re: 2012 MacBook Pro Debian Bookworm Install

2023-06-08 Thread Timothy M Butterworth
On Thu, Jun 8, 2023 at 9:27 PM Dan Ritter wrote: > Timothy M Butterworth wrote: > > All, > > > > I have a 2012 MacBook Pro that I am going to install Debian Bookworm on. > I > > will not be keeping OSX on the Mac as it is no longer supported for > > updates. Does anyone have any tips or tricks fo

Re: fancontrol

2023-06-08 Thread Dan Ritter
Aleix Piulachs wrote: > i’ m with a hp 6830s computer bullseye i386 > and the fan services are not working.i write system to enable fancontrol > and systemctl lm-sensors enable but worse when i write systemctl status > fancontrol, i see Active failed Result exit-code and i write > /usr/sbin/fancon

Re: 2012 MacBook Pro Debian Bookworm Install

2023-06-08 Thread Dan Ritter
Timothy M Butterworth wrote: > All, > > I have a 2012 MacBook Pro that I am going to install Debian Bookworm on. I > will not be keeping OSX on the Mac as it is no longer supported for > updates. Does anyone have any tips or tricks for installing Debian on a > MacBook Pro? There's a page in the

fancontrol

2023-06-08 Thread Aleix Piulachs
When i start my computer fails fan speed regulator

Re: 60-serial.rules, broken

2023-06-08 Thread gene heskett
On 6/8/23 18:35, David Wright wrote: On Thu 08 Jun 2023 at 11:47:25 (-0400), gene heskett wrote: On 6/7/23 14:04, Darac Marjal wrote: On 07/06/2023 15:37, gene heskett wrote: /dev/serial/by-id has not been created for quite some time. The arm folks have had a patch script for quite a while bu

fancontrol

2023-06-08 Thread Aleix Piulachs
i’ m with a hp 6830s computer bullseye i386 and the fan services are not working.i write system to enable fancontrol and systemctl lm-sensors enable but worse when i write systemctl status fancontrol, i see Active failed Result exit-code and i write /usr/sbin/fancontrol —check and i see some mandat

Re: how to change boot screen image?

2023-06-08 Thread DdB
Am 09.06.2023 um 01:45 schrieb hlyg: > i've installed deb11 for i386 from live lxde CD > > i want to change boot screen image > > i browse /boot/grub, can't get clue > > lxde has many menus to change appearance, but i can't find menu to > change boot screen > > btw is it possible to show kernel

how to change boot screen image?

2023-06-08 Thread hlyg
i've installed deb11 for i386 from live lxde CD i want to change boot screen image i browse /boot/grub, can't get clue lxde has many menus to change appearance, but i can't find menu to change boot screen btw is it possible to show kernel msg during boot?

Re: Please help with not booting from USB so to install Debian

2023-06-08 Thread Joseph Loo
You might want to read the manual with the computer. My Lenovo would boot automatically to Windows. In the manual, it had a hold on the side, trusty paperwork clip press the hole, boots into bios. Install Linux On Thu, Jun 8, 2023, 2:51 PM Bret Busby wrote: > On 9/6/23 05:18, Bret Busby wrote: >

2012 MacBook Pro Debian Bookworm Install

2023-06-08 Thread Timothy M Butterworth
All, I have a 2012 MacBook Pro that I am going to install Debian Bookworm on. I will not be keeping OSX on the Mac as it is no longer supported for updates. Does anyone have any tips or tricks for installing Debian on a MacBook Pro? Thanks Tim -- ⢀⣴⠾⠻⢶⣦⠀ ⣾⠁⢠⠒⠀⣿⡁ Debian - The universal operatin

Re: Please help with not booting from USB so to install Debian

2023-06-08 Thread David Christensen
On 6/8/23 11:36, Rodolfo Medina wrote: I want to install Debian on a new machine but don't manage to boot from USB stick. (I can do so regularly with another machine, so the USB stick is ok and so is the Debian netinst I burned onto it.) At the boot I press F9 and a menu appears where I can cho

Re: Please help with not booting from USB so to install Debian

2023-06-08 Thread David Wright
On Thu 08 Jun 2023 at 15:36:27 (-0600), Charles Curley wrote: > On Thu, 08 Jun 2023 23:15:36 +0200 "Thomas Schmitt" wrote: > > > I understand from the link that it has a 64 bit Celeron J4105 CPU. > > So its EFI would want an "amd64" ISO. > > A Celeron should be able to run i386 Debian. But the am

Re: 60-serial.rules, broken

2023-06-08 Thread David Wright
On Thu 08 Jun 2023 at 11:47:25 (-0400), gene heskett wrote: > On 6/7/23 14:04, Darac Marjal wrote: > > On 07/06/2023 15:37, gene heskett wrote: > > > > > > /dev/serial/by-id has not been created for quite some time. > > > The arm folks have had a patch script for quite a while but it > > > has not

Re: Running Debian without initramfs?

2023-06-08 Thread Michel Verdier
On 2023-06-08, James Addison wrote: > Basically what I'm wondering about is whether there's some kind of > future utopia where operating system filesystem images -- and the > process of managing and booting from them -- could be made > significantly simpler. You can already do that. Compile a ker

Re: BIOS version

2023-06-08 Thread Geert Stappers
On Thu, Jun 08, 2023 at 10:09:47PM +0100, Mick Ab wrote: > Is there a command that can be used to determine the BIOS version being > used on the motherboard. > > I have used dmidecode, OKay > but at the bottom of the man page for dmidecode there is :- > > "More often than not, information conta

Re: BIOS version

2023-06-08 Thread Dan Ritter
Mick Ab wrote: > Is there a command that can be used to determine the BIOS version being > used on the motherboard. > > I have used dmidecode, but at the bottom of the man page for dmidecode > there is :- > > "More often than not, information contained in the DMI tables is > inaccurate, incomple

Re: Please help with not booting from USB so to install Debian

2023-06-08 Thread Bret Busby
On 9/6/23 05:18, Bret Busby wrote: On 9/6/23 05:02, Bret Busby wrote: On 9/6/23 04:52, Rodolfo Medina wrote: Bret Busby writes: My understanding is that Windows 11 computers have malware that is designed to prevent booting into anything other than the malicious Windows 11. A procedure to g

Re: Please help with not booting from USB so to install Debian

2023-06-08 Thread Bret Busby
On 9/6/23 05:26, Bret Busby wrote: On 9/6/23 05:18, Bret Busby wrote: On 9/6/23 05:02, Bret Busby wrote: On 9/6/23 04:52, Rodolfo Medina wrote: Bret Busby writes: My understanding is that Windows 11 computers have malware that is designed to prevent booting into anything other than the mal

Re: Please help with not booting from USB so to install Debian

2023-06-08 Thread Charles Curley
On Thu, 08 Jun 2023 23:15:36 +0200 "Thomas Schmitt" wrote: > I understand from the link that it has a 64 bit Celeron J4105 CPU. > So its EFI would want an "amd64" ISO. A Celeron should be able to run i386 Debian. But the amd64 might be a better use of its capabilities. -- Does anybody read sig

Re: Please help with not booting from USB so to install Debian

2023-06-08 Thread Charles Curley
On Thu, 08 Jun 2023 20:01:20 + Rodolfo Medina wrote: > Here it is: > > > https://www.amazon.it/KUU-Notebook-Prozessor-Bluetooth-portatile/dp/B0C4TGXKBC/ref=sr_1_2_sspa?crid=3PK1MW55MAOA Hmm, never heard of that vendor. You might do better with one of the Debian Italian language lists. htt

Re: Please help with not booting from USB so to install Debian

2023-06-08 Thread Bret Busby
On 9/6/23 05:02, Bret Busby wrote: On 9/6/23 04:52, Rodolfo Medina wrote: Bret Busby writes: My understanding is that Windows 11 computers have malware that is designed to prevent booting into anything other than the malicious Windows 11. A procedure to get around the Windows 11 malware, an

Re: Please help with not booting from USB so to install Debian

2023-06-08 Thread Thomas Schmitt
Hi, Rodolfo Medina wrote: > https://www.amazon.it/KUU-Notebook-Prozessor-Bluetooth-portatile/dp/B0C4TGX KBC/ref=sr_1_2_sspa?crid=3PK1MW55MAOA > $ dd if=debian-11.7.0-i386-netinst.iso of=/dev/sdd bs=4M; sync I understand from the link that it has a 64 bit Celeron J4105 CPU. So its EFI would want

Re: Running Debian without initramfs?

2023-06-08 Thread James Addison
On Thu, 08 Jun 2023 17:13:30 +0200, Sven wrote: > On 2023-06-08 15:41 +0100, James Addison wrote: > > > Does anyone have experience running Debian systems without using an > > initramfs? > > I did this in the distance past, some 15 years ago or so. Have long > abandoned that idea, though. > > > I

BIOS version

2023-06-08 Thread Mick Ab
Is there a command that can be used to determine the BIOS version being used on the motherboard. I have used dmidecode, but at the bottom of the man page for dmidecode there is :- "More often than not, information contained in the DMI tables is inaccurate, incomplete or simply wrong."

Re: Please help with not booting from USB so to install Debian

2023-06-08 Thread Bret Busby
On 9/6/23 04:52, Rodolfo Medina wrote: Bret Busby writes: My understanding is that Windows 11 computers have malware that is designed to prevent booting into anything other than the malicious Windows 11. A procedure to get around the Windows 11 malware, and to be able to boot into Linux, has,

Re: Please help with not booting from USB so to install Debian

2023-06-08 Thread Rodolfo Medina
Bret Busby writes: > My understanding is that Windows 11 computers have malware that is designed > to prevent booting into anything other than the malicious Windows 11. > > A procedure to get around the Windows 11 malware, and to be able to boot into > Linux, has, I believe, been described on the

Re: Please help with not booting from USB so to install Debian

2023-06-08 Thread Bret Busby
On 9/6/23 02:36, Rodolfo Medina wrote: I want to install Debian on a new machine but don't manage to boot from USB stick. (I can do so regularly with another machine, so the USB stick is ok and so is the Debian netinst I burned onto it.) At the boot I press F9 and a menu appears where I can cho

Re: Please help with not booting from USB so to install Debian

2023-06-08 Thread Rodolfo Medina
Thank you Andrew and Charles. "Andrew M.A. Cater" writes: > What model of machine is this - and how new? Here it is: https://www.amazon.it/KUU-Notebook-Prozessor-Bluetooth-portatile/dp/B0C4TGXKBC/ref=sr_1_2_sspa?crid=3PK1MW55MAOA > How did you write the image to the USB stick? This way:

Re: Please help with not booting from USB so to install Debian

2023-06-08 Thread Charles Curley
On Thu, 8 Jun 2023 18:36:27 + Rodolfo Medina wrote: > I want to install Debian on a new machine but don't manage to boot > from USB stick. It might help if you identified the new machine. You might also check web sites related to Linux on that manufacturer's products. E.g. thinkwiki (https:

Re: Please help with not booting from USB so to install Debian

2023-06-08 Thread Andrew M.A. Cater
On Thu, Jun 08, 2023 at 06:36:27PM +, Rodolfo Medina wrote: > I want to install Debian on a new machine but don't manage to boot from USB > stick. (I can do so regularly with another machine, so the USB stick is ok > and > so is the Debian netinst I burned onto it.) At the boot I press F9 an

Re: Why wouldn't "stringing" of an input parameter using an array work? ...

2023-06-08 Thread Albretch Mueller
On 6/8/23, Greg Wooledge wrote: > Yes. Use an array. ... ;-), it "magically" worked: _FL1="file1_ps_-aux.txt"; sudo ps -aux > "${_FL1}" _FL2="file2_dmesg.txt"; sudo dmesg > "${_FL2}" _FL3="file3_printenv.txt"; sudo printenv > "${_FL3}" ls -l "file"*".txt"; wc -l "file"*".txt" _KSX_AR=( "${_FL

Please help with not booting from USB so to install Debian

2023-06-08 Thread Rodolfo Medina
I want to install Debian on a new machine but don't manage to boot from USB stick. (I can do so regularly with another machine, so the USB stick is ok and so is the Debian netinst I burned onto it.) At the boot I press F9 and a menu appears where I can choose to boot from USB stick; but then it d

Re: Why wouldn't "stringing" of an input parameter using an array work? ...

2023-06-08 Thread Dan Ritter
Albretch Mueller wrote: > Why would: > > kate "file1_ps_-aux.txt" "file2_dmesg.txt" "file3_printenv.txt" & > > kate "${_FL1}" "${_FL2}" "${_FL3}" & > > work?, but stringing the file names using a loop wouldn't? > > I need to keep somehow declaratively the files read in by kate at > start up

Re: Why wouldn't "stringing" of an input parameter using an array work? ...

2023-06-08 Thread Greg Wooledge
On Thu, Jun 08, 2023 at 06:07:28PM +, Albretch Mueller wrote: > Why would: > > kate "file1_ps_-aux.txt" "file2_dmesg.txt" "file3_printenv.txt" & > > kate "${_FL1}" "${_FL2}" "${_FL3}" & > > work?, but stringing the file names using a loop wouldn't? Not sure what "stringing" means here. >

Re: Running Debian without initramfs?

2023-06-08 Thread Mike Castle
On Thu, Jun 8, 2023 at 10:50 AM Greg Wooledge wrote: > Merged-usr is officially mandated for bookworm, and upgrades to bookworm > will do the merge, if it hasn't already happened. End of an era. My first Linux system (predating the existence of Debian), mounted /usr over NFS over PLIP. I couldn

Why wouldn't "stringing" of an input parameter using an array work? ...

2023-06-08 Thread Albretch Mueller
Why would: kate "file1_ps_-aux.txt" "file2_dmesg.txt" "file3_printenv.txt" & kate "${_FL1}" "${_FL2}" "${_FL3}" & work?, but stringing the file names using a loop wouldn't? I need to keep somehow declaratively the files read in by kate at start up, so I thought of using an array: # _FL1="fil

Re: Running Debian without initramfs?

2023-06-08 Thread Greg Wooledge
On Thu, Jun 08, 2023 at 06:34:36PM +0100, Tim Woodall wrote: > IIUC trixy will enforce merged-usr, it's optional until then. (bicbw, it > might be bookworm that will enforce it - all my systems are already > merged and I don't run testing) Merged-usr is officially mandated for bookworm, and upgrad

Re: Running Debian without initramfs?

2023-06-08 Thread Tim Woodall
On Thu, 8 Jun 2023, James Addison wrote: Hi folks, Does anyone have experience running Debian systems without using an initramfs? I'd be particularly keen to hear about laptop/desktop/server systems, because I think that a large motivating factor to use initramfs -- across many distributions -

Re: Running Debian without initramfs?

2023-06-08 Thread Michel Verdier
On 2023-06-08, James Addison wrote: > Does anyone have experience running Debian systems without using an initramfs? > > I'd be particularly keen to hear about laptop/desktop/server systems, > because I think that a large motivating factor to use initramfs -- > across many distributions -- was to

Re: 60-serial.rules, broken

2023-06-08 Thread gene heskett
On 6/7/23 14:44, Sascha Silbe wrote: Hello Gene, gene heskett writes: Greetings all; /dev/serial/by-id has not been created for quite some time. [...] That's Debian#1035094 [1]. A fix was uploaded three weeks ago and is available in bullseye-proposed-updates [2] but not the regular Bullsey

Re: 60-serial.rules, broken

2023-06-08 Thread gene heskett
On 6/7/23 14:37, Sascha Silbe wrote: Hello Gene, gene heskett writes: Greetings all; /dev/serial/by-id has not been created for quite some time. [...] That's Debian#1035094 [1]. A fix was uploaded three weeks ago and is available in bullseye-proposed-updates [2] but not the regular Bullsey

Re: 60-serial.rules, broken

2023-06-08 Thread gene heskett
On 6/7/23 14:04, Darac Marjal wrote: On 07/06/2023 15:37, gene heskett wrote: Greetings all; /dev/serial/by-id has not been created for quite some time. The arm folks have had a patch script for quite a while but it has not been fixed in debian that we know of. I have 4 identical banana pi's

Re: Link to import-im6.q16 not allowed by security policy ?

2023-06-08 Thread Greg Wooledge
On Thu, Jun 08, 2023 at 04:51:44PM +0200, Roger Price wrote: > I used to type "import foo.jpg" but got into the habit of typing "import > /tmp/foo" which produces the error message. > > So this afternoon I went back to typing "import foo.jpg" and this works > correctly, exactly as expected. Thank

Re: 60-serial.rules, broken

2023-06-08 Thread gene heskett
On 6/7/23 14:04, Darac Marjal wrote: On 07/06/2023 15:37, gene heskett wrote: Greetings all; /dev/serial/by-id has not been created for quite some time. The arm folks have had a patch script for quite a while but it has not been fixed in debian that we know of. I have 4 identical banana pi's

Re: Running Debian without initramfs?

2023-06-08 Thread Sven Joachim
On 2023-06-08 15:41 +0100, James Addison wrote: > Does anyone have experience running Debian systems without using an initramfs? I did this in the distance past, some 15 years ago or so. Have long abandoned that idea, though. > I'd be particularly keen to hear about laptop/desktop/server system

Re: Link to import-im6.q16 not allowed by security policy ?

2023-06-08 Thread Roger Price
On Thu, 8 Jun 2023, Greg Wooledge wrote: Roger, what is the full command that you used? When I tested with "import foo.png" it worked as expected. Previously I used to type "import foo.jpg" but got into the habit of typing "import /tmp/foo" which I now understand produces the error message.

Re: Link to import-im6.q16 not allowed by security policy ?

2023-06-08 Thread Roger Price
On Thu, 8 Jun 2023, Greg Wooledge wrote: Roger, what is the full command that you used? When I tested with "import foo.png" it worked as expected. I used to type "import foo.jpg" but got into the habit of typing "import /tmp/foo" which produces the error message. So this afternoon I went b

Re: Firefox resource utilization (was Re: A case for supporting antiquated hardware, was Re: A hypervisor for a headless server?)

2023-06-08 Thread Nicolas George
ce (12023-06-08): > What about ads for car insurance? Yes, what about them? What do you think they have special? (Hint: an ad for a car insurance is not to convince you to subscribe to any insurance rather than none, it is to convince you to subscribe to this insurance rather than any other.) --

Running Debian without initramfs?

2023-06-08 Thread James Addison
Hi folks, Does anyone have experience running Debian systems without using an initramfs? I'd be particularly keen to hear about laptop/desktop/server systems, because I think that a large motivating factor to use initramfs -- across many distributions -- was to provide a mechanism outside-the-com

Re: Firefox resource utilization (was Re: A case for supporting antiquated hardware, was Re: A hypervisor for a headless server?)

2023-06-08 Thread ce
On 6/8/23 01:34, to...@tuxteam.de wrote: Ad industry /is/ about convincing people to do things which potentially damage them. So it is deceptive by design. Read up on Big Tobacco for a good example. What about ads for car insurance?

Re: Link to import-im6.q16 not allowed by security policy ?

2023-06-08 Thread Thomas Schmitt
Hi, Greg Wooledge wrote: > You must have got a completely different set of Google results than I did. That's a known effect from Google watching people digging in the web. But maybe this time it's only the search string. I entered attempt to perform an operation not allowed by the security po

Testing webkitgtk update for buster

2023-06-08 Thread Emilio Pozuelo Monfort
Hi, I'm preparing an update of WebKitGTK+ 2.40 for buster. The current series, 2.38, is now end-of-life upstream, and won't receive any more security updates. Since this is a library used by many packages, I'd appreciate any help testing it. If you are using Debian 10 buster and webkit2gtk, I'

Re: Link to import-im6.q16 not allowed by security policy ?

2023-06-08 Thread Greg Wooledge
On Thu, Jun 08, 2023 at 02:39:11PM +0200, Thomas Schmitt wrote: > Hi, > > Roger Price wrote: > > > import-im6.q16: attempt to perform an operation not allowed by the > > > security > > > policy `PS' @ error/constitute.c/IsCoderAuthorized/421. > > Greg Wooledge wrote: > > I tried googling the e

Re: Link to import-im6.q16 not allowed by security policy ?

2023-06-08 Thread Thomas Schmitt
Hi, Roger Price wrote: > > import-im6.q16: attempt to perform an operation not allowed by the security > > policy `PS' @ error/constitute.c/IsCoderAuthorized/421. Greg Wooledge wrote: > I tried googling the error message, and I get extremely confusing results, > but as near as I can tell, the f

Re: Link to import-im6.q16 not allowed by security policy ?

2023-06-08 Thread Greg Wooledge
On Thu, Jun 08, 2023 at 02:06:12PM +0200, Roger Price wrote: > I use the import program provided by Debian 11 (bullseye) to grab parts of > the screen. This worked well but I was having difficulty remembering that > "import" means "screen-grab". So as root I set up the soft link > > ln -s /usr/

Link to import-im6.q16 not allowed by security policy ?

2023-06-08 Thread Roger Price
I use the import program provided by Debian 11 (bullseye) to grab parts of the screen. This worked well but I was having difficulty remembering that "import" means "screen-grab". So as root I set up the soft link ln -s /usr/bin/import /usr/bin/screen-grab Now, whenever I try to run screen-g