On Wed Apr 12 21:44:23 2023 Charles Curley
wrote:
> On Wed, 12 Apr 2023 10:59:43 -0700
> Charlie Gibbs wrote:
>
>> $ cat /etc/debian_version
>> 11.5
>
> Hmm, the current version is 11.6. Maybe there's a fix in the upgrades
> you haven't yet installed???
Dunno. But the display has always been
Charlie Gibbs composed on 2023-04-12 10:59 (UTC-0700):
> My tower (running Bullseye) has been suffering the black screen
> of... well, not quite death (I can ssh in from another machine and
> look at things), but it's certainly unusable for normal purposes.
> I have an old nVidia video card; I've
>> If I'm not wrong, RFC compliance may even be required in some areas (via
>> contracts).
> That might happen, but it wouldn't be a great idea from a legal
> standpoint: RFCs are often ambiguous in surprising ways.
Most contracts are ambiguous in surprising ways anyway :-)
Stefan
On Wed, 12 Apr 2023 10:59:43 -0700
Charlie Gibbs wrote:
> $ cat /etc/debian_version
> 11.5
Hmm, the current version is 11.6. Maybe there's a fix in the upgrades
you haven't yet installed???
> [ 1406.213319] NVRM: GPU at PCI::01:00:
> GPU-d7903bd4-9549-9f07-5796-886c12d2031c
> [ 1406.213322
Le 12 avril 2023 David Wright a écrit :
> the menu/ is moot. I would maintain that this failure mode is rare
> enough for a reasonable penalty of having to type a few characters
> editing the Grub menu.
>
> The last time I booted a kernel that was on a different partition
> from my installed Grub,
On Thu, Apr 13, 2023 at 12:12:23AM +, David wrote:
> $ echo [^0-9]*
> 11 22 <-- new behaviour by dash
The [^chars] syntax is a negation in Basic and Extended Regular
Expressions, and in bash's globs (it's a bash extension), but NOT in
POSIX globs.
The correct negation syntax in
zithro wrote:
> On 13 Apr 2023 01:15, Dan Ritter wrote:
> > zithro wrote:
> > > On 12 Apr 2023 22:15, Greg Wooledge wrote:
> > >
> > > RFCs are there for having a common ground, right ?
> >
> > Sort of.
> >
> > At various meetings, a grad student was "volunteered" to take
> > notes. Not quite c
Something else I've noticed with bash.
Those work when run in mate-terminal but not in console for some strange
reason.
-- Jude "There are four boxes to be used in
defense of liberty: soap, ballot, jury, and ammo. Please use in that
order." Ed Howdershelt 1940.
On Wed, 12 Apr 2023, Jude DaShiel
When I write bash scripts and I've done this for several debian versions I
use:
#!/usr/bin/env bash
That has worked in the past.
-- Jude "There are four boxes to be used in
defense of liberty: soap, ballot, jury, and ammo. Please use in that
order." Ed Howdershelt 1940.
On Thu, 13 Apr 2023, Dav
In Debian, shell scripts that have
#!/usr/bin/sh
as the first line are executed by the 'dash' shell.
If you write such scripts, you might be interested
to know that 'dash' currently has a behaviour
change in Debian version 12 Bookworm compared to
Debian version 11 Bullseye.
This is being discusse
On 13 Apr 2023 01:15, Dan Ritter wrote:
zithro wrote:
On 12 Apr 2023 22:15, Greg Wooledge wrote:
RFCs are there for having a common ground, right ?
Sort of.
At various meetings, a grad student was "volunteered" to take
notes. Not quite certain of how accurately he had transcribed
things, he
zithro wrote:
> On 12 Apr 2023 22:15, Greg Wooledge wrote:
>
> RFCs are there for having a common ground, right ?
Sort of.
At various meetings, a grad student was "volunteered" to take
notes. Not quite certain of how accurately he had transcribed
things, he typed up "Request For Comments" at th
On 4/12/23, debian-u...@howorth.org.uk wrote:
> I was playing with the addresses listed by Albretch ...
On 4/12/23, David Wright wrote:
> After googling them, I gave Moxee a call. They answer to a subtly
> different name, but it's the same business: a Canadian/US company
> that's been family-own
On 12 Apr 2023 22:15, Greg Wooledge wrote:
On Wed, Apr 12, 2023 at 10:04:42PM +0200, zithro wrote:
So it seems that, despite (incomplete?) standards, each provider
(in the whole mail chain, MUA, MTA, etc) "does what he wants" ?
Why do you sound surprised? This is how everything works. Everyt
On Wed 12 Apr 2023 at 20:18:19 (+0100), debian-u...@howorth.org.uk wrote:
> I was playing with the addresses listed by Albretch and found that
> 199.254.252.1 is interesting. whois says it belongs to "Alexandria Sash
> & Door (ASD-1)" and
> https://opencorporates.com/companies/us_wa/601161047 (via
On Wed 12 Apr 2023 at 07:50:33 (-0400), The Wanderer wrote:
> On 2023-04-12 at 07:44, Michel Verdier wrote:
> > Le 12 avril 2023 The Wanderer a écrit :
> >
> >> Without anything more, wouldn't that just result in an extra
> >> GRUB-menu entry pointing to the same copy of the kernel/etc.?
> >
> >
On 12 Apr 2023 19:51, Albretch Mueller wrote:
I always use a Debian live DVD while exposed.
The thing is that in order to squeeze every minute of attention I
possibly can I tend to:
a) just close the lid of my laptop
b) while keeping the DVD player attached to the laptop
c) then, reopen
On 12 Apr 2023 19:20, John Hasler wrote:
zithro writes:
To not have to handle issues with security or availability of an own
mail server.
I use pobox.com's paid service. Email is their business. I run Postfix
locally using the Pobox server as a smarthost and use Fetchmail to
download my mail
On Wed, Apr 12, 2023 at 10:04:42PM +0200, zithro wrote:
> So it seems that, despite (incomplete?) standards, each provider
> (in the whole mail chain, MUA, MTA, etc) "does what he wants" ?
Why do you sound surprised? This is how everything works. Everything.
[Note: I snipped everything for easier read, and
replied to the most recent email]
Thank you all for your constructive answers !
This was a really interesting read.
So it seems that, despite (incomplete?) standards, each provider
(in the whole mail chain, MUA, MTA, etc) "does what he wants" ?
On 12 Apr 2023 19:56, to...@tuxteam.de wrote:
On Wed, Apr 12, 2023 at 06:40:45PM +0200, zithro wrote:
[...]
But they don't work for you.
Well, in a sense, yes, and freely ^^
You don't want to be convinced
No, that's not how life works. How pretentious is that sentence ...
Nonetheless, I
On 13.04.2023 00:00, Albretch Mueller wrote:
Yes, but should it happen on every hop? In my case it happens while I
am trying to reach every site and from wherever I have the chance to
get some relatively decent Internet access?
There is a chance your trace packets were filtered (rate-limited),
Greg Wooledge wrote:
> On Wed, Apr 12, 2023 at 05:37:32PM +, Albretch Mueller wrote:
> > It is not with every site and it is mostly with one hop.
>
> > $ traceroute google.com
> > traceroute to google.com (172.217.0.174), 30 hops max, 60 byte
> > packets 1 _gateway (199.83.128.1) 6.687 m
On 4/12/23, Greg Wooledge wrote:
> unicorn:~$ traceroute www.google.com
> traceroute to www.google.com (142.250.190.4), 30 hops max, 60 byte packets
> 1 routerlogin.net (10.0.0.1) 0.413 ms 0.355 ms 0.415 ms
> 2 65-131-222-254.mnfd.centurylink.net (65.131.222.254) 38.070 ms 39.776
> ms 36
On Wed, Apr 12, 2023 at 02:16:08PM -0400, Jeffrey Walton wrote:
> On Wed, Apr 12, 2023 at 2:06 PM wrote:
> >
> > On Wed, Apr 12, 2023 at 02:02:39PM -0400, Jeffrey Walton wrote:
> >
> > [...]
> >
> > > If you wish to wander from the convention, then don't be surprised
> > > when unexpected things h
On Wed 12 Apr 2023 at 14:02:39 (-0400), Jeffrey Walton wrote:
> On Wed, Apr 12, 2023 at 1:52 PM wrote:
> > On Wed, Apr 12, 2023 at 12:38:37PM -0400, Jeffrey Walton wrote:
> > > On Tue, Apr 11, 2023 at 10:12 PM The Wanderer
> > > wrote:
> > > > ...
> > > > Some mail services apparently treat this
to...@tuxteam.de writes:
> On Wed, Apr 12, 2023 at 12:38:37PM -0400, Jeffrey Walton wrote:
> > On Tue, Apr 11, 2023 at 10:12â¯PM The Wanderer
> > wrote:
> > >
> > > ...
> > > Some mail services apparently treat this "discard incoming messages that
> > > look like duplicates of ones you already h
On Wed, Apr 12, 2023 at 2:06 PM wrote:
>
> On Wed, Apr 12, 2023 at 02:02:39PM -0400, Jeffrey Walton wrote:
>
> [...]
>
> > If you wish to wander from the convention, then don't be surprised
> > when unexpected things happen.
>
> Unexpected things happen to me all the time -- the least of them are
My tower (running Bullseye) has been suffering the black screen
of... well, not quite death (I can ssh in from another machine and
look at things), but it's certainly unusable for normal purposes.
I have an old nVidia video card; I've always had a bit of trouble
with it, but things got better when
On Wed, Apr 12, 2023 at 05:37:32PM +, Albretch Mueller wrote:
> It is not with every site and it is mostly with one hop.
> $ traceroute google.com
> traceroute to google.com (172.217.0.174), 30 hops max, 60 byte packets
> 1 _gateway (199.83.128.1) 6.687 ms 6.660 ms 6.683 ms
> 2 199.83.
On Wed, 12 Apr 2023 12:38:37 -0400
Jeffrey Walton wrote:
Hello Jeffrey,
>I don't think I would blame GMail for that. Maybe it's the sender's MUA?
It's well known that google discard what they see as 'duplicate'
messages. It is nothing to do with the sender's MUA.
Always remember google's 'ema
On Wed, Apr 12, 2023 at 02:02:39PM -0400, Jeffrey Walton wrote:
[...]
> If you wish to wander from the convention, then don't be surprised
> when unexpected things happen.
Unexpected things happen to me all the time -- the least of them are
related to Message-IDs. My Message-IDs are fine, thanky
On Wed, Apr 12, 2023 at 05:37:32PM +, Albretch Mueller wrote:
> I have found a few examples and "explanations" but in the cases of
> the examples I have seen by other people, like:
Quoth the man page:
This program attempts to trace the route an IP packet would
follow to some internet hos
On Wed, Apr 12, 2023 at 1:52 PM wrote:
>
> On Wed, Apr 12, 2023 at 12:38:37PM -0400, Jeffrey Walton wrote:
> > On Tue, Apr 11, 2023 at 10:12 PM The Wanderer wrote:
> > >
> > > ...
> > > Some mail services apparently treat this "discard incoming messages that
> > > look like duplicates of ones you
Le 12 avril 2023 Albretch Mueller a écrit :
> It is not with every site and it is mostly with one hop. I my case it
> is with all sites and once the packets reach the web (from hop 5 to
> 30), from wherever I connect to the Internet. Why would that happen
> and why would that -consistently- "happ
On Wed, Apr 12, 2023 at 06:40:45PM +0200, zithro wrote:
[...]
> > But they don't work for you.
>
> Well, in a sense, yes, and freely ^^
You don't want to be convinced, I don't want to be convinced,
so let's be nice to the rest of humankind and shut up now.
[...]
> Ah ah, this answer ... "I kn
On Wed, Apr 12, 2023 at 12:38:37PM -0400, Jeffrey Walton wrote:
> On Tue, Apr 11, 2023 at 10:12 PM The Wanderer wrote:
> >
> > ...
> > Some mail services apparently treat this "discard incoming messages that
> > look like duplicates of ones you already have a copy of" behavior as a
> > feature; Gm
I always use a Debian live DVD while exposed.
The thing is that in order to squeeze every minute of attention I
possibly can I tend to:
a) just close the lid of my laptop
b) while keeping the DVD player attached to the laptop
c) then, reopen it and continue.
That way I avoid like 5 minutes of
On Wed, Apr 12, 2023 at 06:33:49PM +0200, Thomas Schmitt wrote:
> Hi,
>
> i wrote:
> > > But why does it [pulseaudio] stay modest until i go to
> > > https://salsa.debian.org/groups/optical-media-team/-/activity
> > > and why does it stay busy after i left that page ?
>
> Henning Follmann wrote
I have found a few examples and "explanations" but in the cases of
the examples I have seen by other people, like:
https://serverfault.com/questions/733005/what-does-having-mean-in-the-command-traceroute-and-how-can-you-cope-wit
It is not with every site and it is mostly with one hop. I my ca
zithro writes:
> To not have to handle issues with security or availability of an own
> mail server.
I use pobox.com's paid service. Email is their business. I run Postfix
locally using the Pobox server as a smarthost and use Fetchmail to
download my mail every five minutes. Best of both worlds,
On Tue, Apr 11, 2023 at 10:12 PM The Wanderer wrote:
>
> ...
> Some mail services apparently treat this "discard incoming messages that
> look like duplicates of ones you already have a copy of" behavior as a
> feature; Gmail is the best-known example. That has problems when (as
> with this mailin
On 12 Apr 2023 18:12, to...@tuxteam.de wrote:
On Wed, Apr 12, 2023 at 06:00:25PM +0200, zithro wrote:
On 12 Apr 2023 11:21, to...@tuxteam.de wrote:
On Wed, Apr 12, 2023 at 08:23:23AM +0100, Brad Rogers wrote:
On Tue, 11 Apr 2023 21:08:51 +
"Andrew M.A. Cater" wrote:
Hello Andrew,
If yo
Hi,
i wrote:
> > But why does it [pulseaudio] stay modest until i go to
> > https://salsa.debian.org/groups/optical-media-team/-/activity
> > and why does it stay busy after i left that page ?
Henning Follmann wrote:
> I am pretty sure this is just coincidence.
I tried at least three times whi
On Wed, Apr 12, 2023 at 06:00:25PM +0200, zithro wrote:
> On 12 Apr 2023 11:21, to...@tuxteam.de wrote:
> > On Wed, Apr 12, 2023 at 08:23:23AM +0100, Brad Rogers wrote:
> > > On Tue, 11 Apr 2023 21:08:51 +
> > > "Andrew M.A. Cater" wrote:
> > >
> > > Hello Andrew,
> > >
> > > > If you are su
On 12 Apr 2023 11:21, to...@tuxteam.de wrote:
On Wed, Apr 12, 2023 at 08:23:23AM +0100, Brad Rogers wrote:
On Tue, 11 Apr 2023 21:08:51 +
"Andrew M.A. Cater" wrote:
Hello Andrew,
If you are subscribed to the mailing list and you post, you should see
a copy turn up in your mailing list ma
On 12 Apr 2023 13:54, Byung-Hee HWANG wrote:
If you are subscribed to the mailing list and you post, you should see
a copy turn up in your mailing list mails
Unless your email provider is google, or somebody covertly using google.
Now why would you want to do that?
I have experience. Gmail
On 12 Apr 2023 04:12, The Wanderer wrote:
Some mail services apparently treat this "discard incoming messages that
look like duplicates of ones you already have a copy of" behavior as a
feature; Gmail is the best-known example. That has problems when (as
with this mailing list) the incoming copy
On 11 Apr 2023 22:28, gene heskett wrote:
On 4/11/23 13:36, Andrew M.A. Cater wrote:
There are a bunch of cups manpages: there are lots of documents online.
The people recommending you avahi/bonjour/zeroconf are recommending it
because it works - for them and for 99.9% of people.
And its both
On Wed, Apr 12, 2023 at 06:49:52AM -0400, Henning Follmann wrote:
> On Wed, Apr 12, 2023 at 12:34:55PM +0200, Thomas Schmitt wrote:
> > Hi,
> >
> > David Wright wrote:
> > > googling pulseaudio cpu usage produces a lot of hits.
> >
> > Yes. But why does it stay modest until i go to
> > https://
>> >If you are subscribed to the mailing list and you post, you should see
>> >a copy turn up in your mailing list mails
>>
>> Unless your email provider is google, or somebody covertly using google.
>
> Now why would you want to do that?
I have experience. Gmail eat one message if that is dupli
On 2023-04-12 at 07:44, Michel Verdier wrote:
> Le 12 avril 2023 The Wanderer a écrit :
>
>> Without anything more, wouldn't that just result in an extra
>> GRUB-menu entry pointing to the same copy of the kernel/etc.?
>
> Of course he can change menuentry to point to another kernel/initram
Fro
Le 12 avril 2023 The Wanderer a écrit :
> Without anything more, wouldn't that just result in an extra GRUB-menu
> entry pointing to the same copy of the kernel/etc.?
Of course he can change menuentry to point to another kernel/initram
> As I think I understand matters, the goal is to have a dup
On 2023-04-11 at 22:30, Michel Verdier wrote:
> Le 11 avril 2023 davidson a écrit :
>> I believe the OP just wants an extra entry in his grub menu that
>> will boot a redundant copy of his latest working kernel. (But that
>> is only my understanding, which might be wrong. OP can speak for
>> hims
On Wed, 12 Apr 2023 davidson wrote:
On Tue, 11 Apr 2023 davidson wrote:
I haven't tried booting yet with my "5.10.0-21-amd63-kg" initrd,
though. I'll leave that to you, if you want to try.
Boot went fine, but it is worth mentioning that grub-update
*update-grub
decided that the "5.10.0-21-
On Tue, 11 Apr 2023 davidson wrote:
On Tue, 11 Apr 2023 Marc Auslander wrote:
On 4/10/2023 11:00 PM, David Wright wrote:
On Mon 10 Apr 2023 at 20:17:11 (-0400), Marc Auslander wrote:
I'm on Buster.
In /boot I keep a copy of the current working linux named by appending
-knowngood to the four f
On Wed, Apr 12, 2023 at 12:34:55PM +0200, Thomas Schmitt wrote:
> Hi,
>
> David Wright wrote:
> > googling pulseaudio cpu usage produces a lot of hits.
>
> Yes. But why does it stay modest until i go to
> https://salsa.debian.org/groups/optical-media-team/-/activity
> and why does it stay busy
Anssi Saari wrote:
> If "public IPv4 address" is not understood by you it can also be
> formulated as "the OP has an RFC1918 IPv4 address which is not routable
> on the public internet and hence a 6to4 tunnel can't work for him."
Oh, it's hidden behind CGNAT. No, that won't work. My mistake.
-ds
Hi,
David Wright wrote:
> googling pulseaudio cpu usage produces a lot of hits.
Yes. But why does it stay modest until i go to
https://salsa.debian.org/groups/optical-media-team/-/activity
and why does it stay busy after i left that page ?
I wrote:
> > Next riddle is how i could keep pulseaud
On Wed, Apr 12, 2023 at 08:23:23AM +0100, Brad Rogers wrote:
> On Tue, 11 Apr 2023 21:08:51 +
> "Andrew M.A. Cater" wrote:
>
> Hello Andrew,
>
> >If you are subscribed to the mailing list and you post, you should see
> >a copy turn up in your mailing list mails
>
> Unless your email provid
On Tue, 11 Apr 2023 21:08:51 +
"Andrew M.A. Cater" wrote:
Hello Andrew,
>If you are subscribed to the mailing list and you post, you should see
>a copy turn up in your mailing list mails
Unless your email provider is google, or somebody covertly using google.
--
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