Re: Re: Consultation on license documents

2023-03-17 Thread 刘涛
Oh my god, I'm so sorry. I originally wanted to say that every software package in Debian will have a "copyright" document, but the input method was mistakenly typed as copyleft. Because I found that every package in Debian will have a "copyright" document, but not every package has a "license.t

Re: RAID1 + iSCSI as backup (was Re: More RAID weirdness: external RAID over network)

2023-03-17 Thread Gregory Seidman
On Fri, Mar 17, 2023 at 06:05:27PM -0700, David Christensen wrote: > On 3/17/23 12:36, Gregory Seidman wrote: [...] > > This thread has piqued my interest, because I have been lax in doing proper > > backups. I currently run a RAID1 mirroring across three disks (plus a hot > > spare). On top of tha

Re: RAID1 + iSCSI as backup (was Re: More RAID weirdness: external RAID over network)

2023-03-17 Thread David Christensen
On 3/17/23 12:36, Gregory Seidman wrote: On Fri, Mar 17, 2023 at 06:00:46PM +0300, Reco wrote: [...] PS There's that old saying, "RAID is not a substitute for a backup". What you're trying to do sounds suspiciously similar to an old "RAID split-mirror" backup technique. Just saying. This threa

FirewallD Masquerading and route forwarding

2023-03-17 Thread Timothy M Butterworth
All, I have two network interfaces on my PC and I want to route the stub interface to the internet facing interface and perform Masquerading. My Internet facing NIC is set to use zone drop and my inside facing zone is set to use zone trusted. # enable routing echo 1 > /proc/sys/net/ipv4/ip_forwar

Re: More RAID weirdness: external RAID over network

2023-03-17 Thread Tim Woodall
On Fri, 17 Mar 2023, Nicolas George wrote: Nicolas George (12023-03-17): It is not vagueness, it is genericness: /dev/something is anything and contains anything, and I want a solution that works for anything. Just to be clear: I KNOW that what I am asking, the ability to synchronize an exist

Re: RAID1 + iSCSI as backup (was Re: More RAID weirdness: external RAID over network)

2023-03-17 Thread Dan Ritter
Gregory Seidman wrote: > On Fri, Mar 17, 2023 at 06:00:46PM +0300, Reco wrote: > [...] > > PS There's that old saying, "RAID is not a substitute for a backup". > > What you're trying to do sounds suspiciously similar to an old "RAID > > split-mirror" backup technique. Just saying. ... > It soun

Re: More RAID weirdness: external RAID over network

2023-03-17 Thread Nicolas George
Nicolas George (12023-03-17): > It is not vagueness, it is genericness: /dev/something is anything and > contains anything, and I want a solution that works for anything. Just to be clear: I KNOW that what I am asking, the ability to synchronize an existing block device onto another over the netwo

Re: More RAID weirdness: external RAID over network

2023-03-17 Thread Nicolas George
Greg Wooledge (12023-03-17): > > I have a block device on the local host /dev/something with data on it. ^^^ There. I have data, therefore, any solution that assumes the data is not there can only be proposed by somebody who di

RAID1 + iSCSI as backup (was Re: More RAID weirdness: external RAID over network)

2023-03-17 Thread Gregory Seidman
On Fri, Mar 17, 2023 at 06:00:46PM +0300, Reco wrote: [...] > PS There's that old saying, "RAID is not a substitute for a backup". > What you're trying to do sounds suspiciously similar to an old "RAID > split-mirror" backup technique. Just saying. This thread has piqued my interest, because I hav

Re: More RAID weirdness: external RAID over network

2023-03-17 Thread Greg Wooledge
On Fri, Mar 17, 2023 at 05:01:57PM +0100, Nicolas George wrote: > Dan Ritter (12023-03-17): > > If Reco didn't understand your question, it's because you are > > very light on details. > > No. Reco's answers contradict the very first sentence of my first > e-mail. The first sentence of your first

Re: Consultation on license documents

2023-03-17 Thread Theodore Ts'o
On Fri, Mar 17, 2023 at 09:09:22PM +0800, 刘涛 wrote: > Hello, I have the following questions to consult and look forward to your > authoritative answers. > > 1. Must various software packages in the Debian community contain a > license file "license.txt"? Without this file, how does the users > kn

Re: Consultation on license documents

2023-03-17 Thread Gunnar Wolf
Greg Wooledge dijo [Fri, Mar 17, 2023 at 09:36:26AM -0400]: > > 2. I found that each software package has a "Copyleft" document, > > and a lot of license information is also listed in this > > document. Therefore, I would like to ask, when the two documents > > "license.txt" and "Copyleft" exist in

Re: More RAID weirdness: external RAID over network

2023-03-17 Thread Tim Woodall
On Fri, 17 Mar 2023, Nicolas George wrote: Dan Ritter (12023-03-17): If Reco didn't understand your question, it's because you are very light on details. No. Reco's answers contradict the very first sentence of my first e-mail. Is this possible? How can Reco's answers contradict that. Re

Re: Consultation on license documents

2023-03-17 Thread davidson
On Fri, 17 Mar 2023 刘涛 wrote: Hello, I have the following questions to consult and look forward to your authoritative answers. [OP's legal questions elided] Legal issues https://www.debian.org/legal/ The mailing list for Debian legal matters is debian-le...@lists.debian.org To s

Re: More RAID weirdness: external RAID over network

2023-03-17 Thread Nicolas George
Dan Ritter (12023-03-17): > If Reco didn't understand your question, it's because you are > very light on details. No. Reco's answers contradict the very first sentence of my first e-mail. -- Nicolas George

Re: bookworm sha256sum may be defective

2023-03-17 Thread Dan Ritter
Jude DaShiell wrote: > Another contact has done repeated testing on both local and remote > instances of these files and has no failures. I'm suspecting the solid > state drive is going south. Fortunately this computer came with two > internal so I'll start using the other drive from now on and

Re: bookworm sha256sum may be defective

2023-03-17 Thread Jude DaShiell
Thanks for checking this for me, apparently I've got hardware problems. Jude "There are four boxes to be used in defense of liberty: soap, ballot, jury, and ammo. Please use in that order." -Ed Howdershelt (Author, 1940) . On Fri, 17 Mar 2023, Thomas Schmitt wrote: > Hi, > > Jude DaShiell w

Re: More RAID weirdness: external RAID over network

2023-03-17 Thread Dan Ritter
Nicolas George wrote: > Reco (12023-03-17): > > Well, theoretically you can use Btrfs instead. > > No, I cannot. Obviously. > > > What you're trying to do sounds suspiciously similar to an old "RAID > > split-mirror" backup technique. > > Absolutely not. > > If you do not understand the questi

Re: bookworm sha256sum may be defective

2023-03-17 Thread Thomas Schmitt
Hi, Jude DaShiell wrote: > https://slackware.uk/slint/x86_64/slint-15.0/iso/slint64-15.0-2.iso.sha256 > https://slackware.uk/slint/x86_64/slint-15.0/iso/slint64-15.0-2.iso Let's see what an older Debian perceives (... downloading 3.7 GiB lasts a while ...): $ sha256sum -c slint64-15.0-2.iso.sh

Re: More RAID weirdness: external RAID over network

2023-03-17 Thread Nicolas George
Reco (12023-03-17): > Well, theoretically you can use Btrfs instead. No, I cannot. Obviously. > What you're trying to do sounds suspiciously similar to an old "RAID > split-mirror" backup technique. Absolutely not. If you do not understand the question, it is okay to not answer. -- Nicolas

Re: More RAID weirdness: external RAID over network

2023-03-17 Thread Reco
On Fri, Mar 17, 2023 at 03:46:54PM +0100, Nicolas George wrote: > Reco (12023-03-17): > > Yes, it will destroy the contents of the device, so backup > > No. If I accepted to have to rely on an extra copy of the data, I would > not be trying to do something complicated like that. Well, theoretical

Re: bookworm sha256sum may be defective

2023-03-17 Thread Jude DaShiell
Another contact has done repeated testing on both local and remote instances of these files and has no failures. I'm suspecting the solid state drive is going south. Fortunately this computer came with two internal so I'll start using the other drive from now on and hope I can duplicate my contac

Re: bookworm sha256sum may be defective

2023-03-17 Thread davidson
On Fri, 17 Mar 2023 davidson wrote: On Fri, 17 Mar 2023 Jude DaShiell wrote: I have had multiple verification failures checking an iso with a sha256sum verification file and am wondering if that program and the rest of the shaxxxsum programs have one or more bugs that could account for these fai

Re: More RAID weirdness: external RAID over network

2023-03-17 Thread Nicolas George
Reco (12023-03-17): > Yes, it will destroy the contents of the device, so backup No. If I accepted to have to rely on an extra copy of the data, I would not be trying to do something complicated like that. -- Nicolas George

Re: bookworm sha256sum may be defective

2023-03-17 Thread davidson
On Fri, 17 Mar 2023 Jude DaShiell wrote: I have had multiple verification failures checking an iso with a sha256sum verification file and am wondering if that program and the rest of the shaxxxsum programs have one or more bugs that could account for these failures. Let the sha256sum program be

Re: More RAID weirdness: external RAID over network

2023-03-17 Thread Reco
Hi. On Fri, Mar 17, 2023 at 01:52:34PM +0100, Nicolas George wrote: > Reco (12023-03-17): > > - DRBD > > That looks interesting, with “meta-disk device”. > > > - MDADM + iSCSI > > Maybe possible, but not the way you suggest, see below. > > > - zpool attach/detach > > I do not think th

Re: bookworm sha256sum may be defective

2023-03-17 Thread Jude DaShiell
Yes they're available and no no other checksum files are available. https://slackware.uk/slint/x86_64/slint-15.0/iso/slint64-15.0-2.iso.sha256 https://slackware.uk/slint/x86_64/slint-15.0/iso/slint64-15.0-2.iso Jude "There are four boxes to be used in defense of liberty: soap, ballot, jury, and

Re: bookworm sha256sum may be defective

2023-03-17 Thread Jude DaShiell
If by sd card you mean solid state drive, thanks for letting me know. Fortunately I had two of these drives installed in this computer so can use the other one and replace the bad one. Jude "There are four boxes to be used in defense of liberty: soap, ballot, jury, and ammo. Please use in that

Re: bookworm sha256sum may be defective

2023-03-17 Thread Jeffrey Walton
On Fri, Mar 17, 2023 at 9:36 AM Jude DaShiell wrote: > > I have had multiple verification failures checking an iso with a sha256sum > verification file and am wondering if that program and the rest of the > shaxxxsum programs have one or more bugs that could account for these > failures. That usu

Re: bookworm sha256sum may be defective

2023-03-17 Thread Thomas Schmitt
Hi, Jude DaShiell wrote: > I have had multiple verification failures checking an iso with a sha256sum > verification file and am wondering if that program and the rest of the > shaxxxsum programs have one or more bugs that could account for these > failures. That would be quite surprising, given

Re: bookworm sha256sum may be defective

2023-03-17 Thread Tom Furie
On Fri, Mar 17, 2023 at 09:36:07AM -0400, Jude DaShiell wrote: > I have had multiple verification failures checking an iso with a sha256sum > verification file and am wondering if that program and the rest of the > shaxxxsum programs have one or more bugs that could account for these > failures. W

Re: Consultation on license documents

2023-03-17 Thread Greg Wooledge
On Fri, Mar 17, 2023 at 09:05:21PM +0800, 刘涛 wrote: > 1. Must various software packages in the Debian community contain a license > file "license.txt"? Without this file, how does the users know about the > license usage of the package? Each package must contain a file named "copyright" which co

bookworm sha256sum may be defective

2023-03-17 Thread Jude DaShiell
I have had multiple verification failures checking an iso with a sha256sum verification file and am wondering if that program and the rest of the shaxxxsum programs have one or more bugs that could account for these failures. Jude "There are four boxes to be used in defense of liberty: soap, b

Consultation on license documents

2023-03-17 Thread 刘涛
Hello, I have the following questions to consult and look forward to your authoritative answers. 1. Must various software packages in the Debian community contain a license file "license.txt"? Without this file, how does the users know about the license usage of the package? 2. I found that each

Consultation on license documents

2023-03-17 Thread 刘涛
Hello, I have the following questions to consult and look forward to your authoritative answers. 1. Must various software packages in the Debian community contain a license file "license.txt"? Without this file, how does the users know about the license usage of the package? 2. I found that each

Re: More RAID weirdness: external RAID over network

2023-03-17 Thread Nicolas George
Reco (12023-03-17): > - DRBD That looks interesting, with “meta-disk device”. > - MDADM + iSCSI Maybe possible, but not the way you suggest, see below. > - zpool attach/detach I do not think that is an option. Can you explain how you think it can work? > mdadm --create /dev/md0 --level=mirror

Re: auto restarting in crontab

2023-03-17 Thread debian-user
"p...@ymail.ne.jp" wrote: > debian-u...@howorth.org.uk wrote: > > But it sounds like what...@ymail.ne.jp is doing isn't best practice > > either, although I don't fully understand what they mean by "I often > > change default ruby in interactive shell". If they mean 'global' > > then I suspect th

Re: auto restarting in crontab

2023-03-17 Thread Nicolas George
debian-u...@howorth.org.uk (12023-03-17): > Please don't send me an individual copy of emails; I am subscribed. Nobody can remember who is subscribed and who is not: do not write this in your mail, write it in the headers, just like I did. -- Nicolas George

Re: auto restarting in crontab

2023-03-17 Thread debian-user
Please don't send me an individual copy of emails; I am subscribed. Dan Ritter wrote: > debian-u...@howorth.org.uk wrote: > > Dan Ritter wrote: > > > p...@ymail.ne.jp wrote: > > > > For dev stuff, for example, I have many versions of ruby > > > > installed in the system by rbenv. > > > >

Re: More RAID weirdness: external RAID over network

2023-03-17 Thread Reco
Hi. On Fri, Mar 17, 2023 at 11:09:09AM +0100, Nicolas George wrote: > Is this possible: ? Actually, there are at least three ways of doing it: - DRBD - MDADM + iSCSI - zpool attach/detach But DRBD was designed with continuous replication in mind, and ZFS has severe processor architectur

More RAID weirdness: external RAID over network

2023-03-17 Thread Nicolas George
Hi. Is this possible: ? I have a block device on the local host /dev/something with data on it. I have a block device on the remote host remote:/dev/something with the exact same size but no relevant data on it. I have room on the local host in /data or an extra block device (could be loop). W