Re: Debian Installer: Specifying the preseed file device?

2023-03-12 Thread Luna Jernberg
*forwards to debian-boot * On 3/13/23, john doe wrote: > On 3/12/23 23:08, Charles Curley wrote: >> I can specify the path to the preseed file when booting Debian Installer >> (d-i). Is there any way to tell it that the preseed file is on device >> X, say /dev/sdb1? >> >> > > This is not an answe

Re: Debian Installer: Specifying the preseed file device?

2023-03-12 Thread john doe
On 3/12/23 23:08, Charles Curley wrote: I can specify the path to the preseed file when booting Debian Installer (d-i). Is there any way to tell it that the preseed file is on device X, say /dev/sdb1? This is not an answer to your question and this is more appropreate for debian-boot. I'll

Re: [bullseye] r-cran-ggplot2 depends on missing libpq5 v13.8

2023-03-12 Thread Loris Bennett
David Wright writes: > On Fri 10 Mar 2023 at 10:10:48 (+0100), Loris Bennett wrote: >> >> I am on bullseye and am trying to install the package r-cran-ggplot2. >> This fails with >> >> E: Failed to fetch >> >> http://deb.debian.org/debian/pool/main/p/postgresql-13/libpq5_13.8-0%2bdeb11u1_

Re: BIND: managed-keys-zone: Unable to fetch DNSKEY set '.': timed out

2023-03-12 Thread local10
Mar 13, 2023, 06:19 by jer...@ardley.org: > The contents of /etc/resolv.conf are always of interest. > There's really not much there: # cat /etc/resolv.conf nameserver 127.0.0.1 > That and /etc/nsswitch.conf a/etc/hosts > # cat /etc/nsswitch.conf # /etc/nsswitch.conf # # Example configurati

Re: BIND: managed-keys-zone: Unable to fetch DNSKEY set '.': timed out

2023-03-12 Thread Jeremy Ardley
On 13/3/23 14:08, local10 wrote: Hi, I have  a local caching DNS server that was working fine for a long time but today, all of a sudden, it stopped resolving queries. More info: https://pastebin.com/iW5YeXgS Any ideas? Thanks The contents of /etc/resolv.conf are always of interest. That

BIND: managed-keys-zone: Unable to fetch DNSKEY set '.': timed out

2023-03-12 Thread local10
Hi, I have  a local caching DNS server that was working fine for a long time but today, all of a sudden, it stopped resolving queries. More info: https://pastebin.com/iW5YeXgS Any ideas? Thanks

Re: real debian or true debian?

2023-03-12 Thread Stefan Monnier
> No. I meant, some people pre-installed some packages on debian and release > it, which is declared as xxx-debian. What does "it" refers to? "some packages" meaning "some Debian packages" or "some non-Debian packages"? > I am just not sure about the two words "true" and "real". which is suitabl

Re: home server for email box

2023-03-12 Thread Vincent Lefevre
On 2023-03-12 22:30:50 -0400, Jeffrey Walton wrote: > Security on a channel (like HTTPS) usually makes it tougher to inspect > traffic. Or at least it makes it tougher in HTTPS. In fact, spam > filters are mostly useless for messages encrypted with a tool like GPG > or GnuPG. Are there spammers wh

Re: home server for email box

2023-03-12 Thread Jeffrey Walton
On Sun, Mar 12, 2023 at 9:05 PM Jeremy Ardley wrote: > > On 13/3/23 06:39, Vincent Lefevre wrote: > > O > >> Each of those options has been chosen by the mail list administrator. > >> > >> As a general principal it's a good thing to know the system sending you > >> mail > >> is genuine. Given th

Re: home server for email box

2023-03-12 Thread Vincent Lefevre
On 2023-03-13 09:05:28 +0800, Jeremy Ardley wrote: > I'm not assuming DNS attacks rather I was wondering if a valid certificate > could give better 'customer service' i.e. quicker delivery of mail. Spammers can present valid certificates (or spam through existing mail services with a valid certifi

Re: real debian or true debian?

2023-03-12 Thread coreyh
On 13/03/2023 10:12, Jeffrey Walton wrote: On Sun, Mar 12, 2023 at 9:02 PM wrote: When such a debian (the digital product) is authentic, should we say it "real debian" or "true debian"? I am not sure about this statement. I am having trouble parsing what you are asking... What is the cont

Re: real debian or true debian?

2023-03-12 Thread Jeffrey Walton
On Sun, Mar 12, 2023 at 9:02 PM wrote: > > When such a debian (the digital product) is authentic, should we say it > "real debian" or "true debian"? > > I am not sure about this statement. I am having trouble parsing what you are asking... What is the context? Debian provides distribution media,

Re: home server for email box

2023-03-12 Thread Jeremy Ardley
On 13/3/23 06:39, Vincent Lefevre wrote: O Each of those options has  been chosen by the mail list administrator. As a general principal it's a good thing to know the system sending you mail is genuine. Given the variety, there is no point in rejecting the email if there is no certificate, bu

real debian or true debian?

2023-03-12 Thread coreyh
Hello, When such a debian (the digital product) is authentic, should we say it "real debian" or "true debian"? I am not sure about this statement. Thanks Corey H

Bookworm system randomly not responding (was Re: Bookworm system not responding on high memory usage)

2023-03-12 Thread Xiyue Deng
So after some more tries it looks like this issue is not directly memory usage related. I've tried the following: * Using older kernel version when I was on Bullseye. * Have a cronjob to drop memory caches every minutes. * Using Gnome on Wayland by default or Xorg. And this can still happen when

Re: home server for email box

2023-03-12 Thread p...@ymail.ne.jp
Jeremy Ardley wrote:  * TLS connection with certificate that can't be verified postfix can work with this way. MTA to MTA doesn't require a valid certificate (Said by postfix's author on the list). But HTTPs does require. Yong

Re: PDF on debian

2023-03-12 Thread Jeremy Ardley
On 13/3/23 08:13, Brian wrote: The processing chain in cups generated a raster bitmap image for me to format and deliver to the printer. I didn't dig deep but I suspect the previous stages involved postscript before raster conversion rather than directly from a pdf stage. Suspicions don't qu

Re: PDF on debian

2023-03-12 Thread Brian
On Mon 13 Mar 2023 at 04:25:12 +0800, Jeremy Ardley wrote: > > On 13/3/23 03:38, Stefan Monnier wrote: > > > > Nowadays PDF is what matters: it's the standard format for driverless > > printing (along with a mix of JPEG, PWG raster, or PCLm depending on > > which driverless printing standard you

Re: home server for email box

2023-03-12 Thread Vincent Lefevre
On 2023-03-13 06:06:11 +0800, Jeremy Ardley wrote: > On 13/3/23 05:52, Vincent Lefevre wrote: > > Yes, but here, that's optional. So I'm wondering whether you really > > miss anything. Note also that a client certificate may be sent only > > if it is requested by the server, and if client certifica

Re: home server for email box

2023-03-12 Thread Greg Wooledge
On Mon, Mar 13, 2023 at 06:06:11AM +0800, Jeremy Ardley wrote: > That document refers to troublesome netscape clients (I didn't know Netscape > did email?). Back in the day, Netscape (the company) had two main software products: Netscape Communicator (a full suite of web browser, email client, and

Debian Installer: Specifying the preseed file device?

2023-03-12 Thread Charles Curley
I can specify the path to the preseed file when booting Debian Installer (d-i). Is there any way to tell it that the preseed file is on device X, say /dev/sdb1? Once d-i is booted and in the installation menu, I can activate a console, manually umount the incorrect partition, and manually mount th

Re: home server for email box

2023-03-12 Thread Jeremy Ardley
On 13/3/23 05:52, Vincent Lefevre wrote: Yes, but here, that's optional. So I'm wondering whether you really miss anything. Note also that a client certificate may be sent only if it is requested by the server, and if client certificates are requested, then there are issues with some clients:

Re: home server for email box

2023-03-12 Thread Vincent Lefevre
On 2023-03-12 07:21:55 +0100, to...@tuxteam.de wrote: > On Sat, Mar 11, 2023 at 11:43:35PM +0100, Vincent Lefevre wrote: > > But what's the point of a certificate in this particular case > > (the server bendel.debian.org does not need to authenticate > > the client)? > > It is just part of the TLS

Re: Graphics card switching request

2023-03-12 Thread Felix Miata
Marcin Tchórznicki composed on 2023-03-12 18:44 (UTC+0100): > I have installed Debian 11 on my laptop. The computer has an intel > integrated graphics card and an Nvidia graphics card on board. Debian > has the nouveau driver. After installing the dedicated Nvidia driver, X > server shows an error

Re: Graphics card switching request

2023-03-12 Thread Felix Miata
Marcin Tchórznicki composed on 2023-03-12 13:44 (UTC-0400): > I have installed Debian 11 on my laptop. The computer has an intel > integrated graphics card and an Nvidia graphics card on board. Debian > has the nouveau driver. After installing the dedicated Nvidia driver, X > server shows an e

Re: PDF on debian

2023-03-12 Thread Jeremy Ardley
On 13/3/23 03:38, Stefan Monnier wrote: Nowadays PDF is what matters: it's the standard format for driverless printing (along with a mix of JPEG, PWG raster, or PCLm depending on which driverless printing standard you're talking about). Admittedly, standards like IPP Everywhere require suppor

Re: PDF on debian

2023-03-12 Thread Stefan Monnier
>> However, the cost of implementation was high; computers output raw >> PS code that would be interpreted by the printer into a raster image >> at the printer's natural resolution. This required high performance >> microprocessors and ample memory. The LaserWriter used a 12 MHz >> Motorola 68

Re: PDF on debian

2023-03-12 Thread Brian
On Sun 12 Mar 2023 at 16:52:37 -, Curt wrote: > On 2023-03-12, Dan Ritter wrote: > >> > > >> > Many (most?) printers do not understand PostScript. The > >> > printing system itself is based on processing PDFs. > >> > > >> > >> Oh. > >> Times have changed! > >> I thought it was the other wa

Re: Graphics card switching request

2023-03-12 Thread Charles Curley
On Sun, 12 Mar 2023 18:44:19 +0100 Marcin Tchórznicki wrote: > Is there any way under Debian 11 to > be able to switch between integrated graphics card and Nvidia card ? > Some games do not work under Linux on the integrated card. Several. Your desktop may have something built in. On XFCE, e.g

Re: PDF on debian

2023-03-12 Thread Brian
On Sun 12 Mar 2023 at 11:50:15 -0400, Dan Ritter wrote: > Yassine Chaouche wrote: > > Le 3/12/23 à 14:18, Brian a écrit : > > > On Sun 12 Mar 2023 at 10:45:02 +0100, Yassine Chaouche wrote: > > > > > > > Le 3/9/23 à 15:33, Vincent Lefevre a écrit : > > > > > it is strange that the choice was to

Graphics card switching request

2023-03-12 Thread Marcin Tchórznicki
Hi ! I have installed Debian 11 on my laptop. The computer has an intel integrated graphics card and an Nvidia graphics card on board. Debian has the nouveau driver. After installing the dedicated Nvidia driver, X server shows an error, no xorg.conf. Is there any way under Debian 11 to be abl

Re: PDF on debian

2023-03-12 Thread Dan Ritter
Curt wrote: > On 2023-03-12, Dan Ritter wrote: > >> > > >> > Many (most?) printers do not understand PostScript. The > >> > printing system itself is based on processing PDFs. > >> > > >> > >> Oh. > >> Times have changed! > >> I thought it was the other way around. > > > > You are correct, Yas

Re: PDF on debian

2023-03-12 Thread Curt
On 2023-03-12, Dan Ritter wrote: >> > >> > Many (most?) printers do not understand PostScript. The >> > printing system itself is based on processing PDFs. >> > >> >> Oh. >> Times have changed! >> I thought it was the other way around. > > You are correct, Yassine. > > PostScript is an interpre

Re: PDF on debian

2023-03-12 Thread Dan Ritter
Yassine Chaouche wrote: > Le 3/12/23 à 14:18, Brian a écrit : > > On Sun 12 Mar 2023 at 10:45:02 +0100, Yassine Chaouche wrote: > > > > > Le 3/9/23 à 15:33, Vincent Lefevre a écrit : > > > > it is strange that the choice was to generate > > > > PostScript and not PDF. > > > > > > Isn't postscrip

Re: home server for email box

2023-03-12 Thread Yassine Chaouche
Le 3/12/23 à 14:50, Greg Wooledge a écrit : On Sun, Mar 12, 2023 at 12:13:54PM +0100, Yassine Chaouche wrote: function net.ip.reputation(){ revip=$(net.ip.reverse "$1") results=$(dig +short $revip.zen.spamhaus.org) [[ -z $results ]] && (echo "clean"; return 0) You're caling retu

HDD vs SDD reliability

2023-03-12 Thread Charles Curley
There has been some discussion about the reliability of hard drives vs. solid state drives on this list. Here is an interesting data point. Backblaze: SSDs fail slightly less than HDDs https://blocksandfiles.com/2023/03/10/backblaze-ssd-vs-hdd/ -- Does anybody read signatures any more? https:/

Re: debian 12 installers

2023-03-12 Thread Thomas Schmitt
Hi, Greg Wooledge wrote: > Debian used to include xv, with patches and PNG support. I wonder how the xv license permitted this. The only trace i found is a dead link at "XV Jumbo Patches" http://www.gregroelofs.com/greg_xv.html "fully patched XV source code (but Debian has permission)" > un

Re: debian 12 installers

2023-03-12 Thread Greg Wooledge
On Sun, Mar 12, 2023 at 02:09:09PM +0100, Thomas Schmitt wrote: > So just for curiosity i tried what happens if i build xv on Debian 11. > > wget ftp://ftp.trilon.com/pub/xv/xv-3.10a.tar.gz > tar xzf xv-3.10a.tar.gz > cd xv-3.10a > view INSTALL Debian used to include xv, with patches and

Re: home server for email box

2023-03-12 Thread Greg Wooledge
On Sun, Mar 12, 2023 at 12:13:54PM +0100, Yassine Chaouche wrote: > function net.ip.reputation(){ > revip=$(net.ip.reverse "$1") > results=$(dig +short $revip.zen.spamhaus.org) > [[ -z $results ]] && (echo "clean"; return 0) You're caling return inside a subshell. This doesn't actuall

Re: PDF on debian

2023-03-12 Thread Yassine Chaouche
Le 3/12/23 à 14:18, Brian a écrit : On Sun 12 Mar 2023 at 10:45:02 +0100, Yassine Chaouche wrote: Le 3/9/23 à 15:33, Vincent Lefevre a écrit : it is strange that the choice was to generate PostScript and not PDF. Isn't postscript what printers read? Many (most?) printers do not understand

Re: missing wireless tools

2023-03-12 Thread Andrew M.A. Cater
On Sun, Mar 12, 2023 at 04:04:22PM +0800, Rino Mardo wrote: > i'm trying to install a minimal debian + kde plasma. started with debian > standard iso then move to the firmware iso that includes non-free (my > laptop's wifi is there). > > during install, i was able to configure apt with mirrors and

Re: debian 12 installers

2023-03-12 Thread Thomas Schmitt
Hi, Van Snyder wrote: > > I use some old stuff such as xv Andrew M.A. Cater wrote: > I can't see XV in modern Debian That's most probably because of its license terms as "shareware". I love it much and it turns out that my Debian 11 uses a binary which i made on a SuSE machine about 10 years ag

Re: debian 12 installers

2023-03-12 Thread Andrew M.A. Cater
On Sat, Mar 11, 2023 at 05:41:23PM -0800, Van Snyder wrote: > On Sat, 2023-03-11 at 18:32 -0500, Greg Wooledge wrote: > > The installation *process* > > doesn't change. After the base system has been installed, you're given a > > menu from which you can select additional software to install -- SSH

Re: home server for email box

2023-03-12 Thread Yassine Chaouche
Le 3/10/23 à 12:44, to...@tuxteam.de a écrit : On Fri, Mar 10, 2023 at 12:01:57PM +0100, Nicolas George wrote: p...@ymail.ne.jp (12023-03-10): Can I setup a mail server (postfix, dovecot, dkim, rspamd etc) on this box to receive/send email normally? Probably not: ISP declare IP blocks attrib

Re: debian 12 broken login when switching virtual console

2023-03-12 Thread digitalwop
Am Sonntag, 12. März 2023, 11:47:23 CET schrieb davidson: > On Sat, 11 Mar 2023 digital...@gmx.de wrote: > > Hello, > > i have installed (alpha 2 release) Debian 12 (with KDE) on two machines > > and on both the sddm session crashes when i switch the virtual console. > > If i am logged in an active

Re: home server for email box

2023-03-12 Thread Yassine Chaouche
Le 3/10/23 à 22:04, Jeremy Ardley a écrit : On 10/3/23 23:52, Henning Follmann wrote: Well "could" is the best way to describe the chances of this working. I think the best way too find out: Check if the ISP will allow you to set the reverse DNS record matching your chose A record. If they

Re: debian 12 broken login when switching virtual console

2023-03-12 Thread davidson
On Sat, 11 Mar 2023 digital...@gmx.de wrote: Hello, i have installed (alpha 2 release) Debian 12 (with KDE) on two machines and on both the sddm session crashes when i switch the virtual console. If i am logged in an active KDE session and i switch to the virtual console with: strg alt f2 and s

Re: home server for email box

2023-03-12 Thread Yassine Chaouche
Le 3/10/23 à 12:44, to...@tuxteam.de a écrit : On Fri, Mar 10, 2023 at 12:01:57PM +0100, Nicolas George wrote: p...@ymail.ne.jp (12023-03-10): Can I setup a mail server (postfix, dovecot, dkim, rspamd etc) on this box to receive/send email normally? Probably not: ISP declare IP blocks attrib

Re: bendel.debian.org untrusted certificate

2023-03-12 Thread Alexander V. Makartsev
On 12.03.2023 09:55, jeremy ardley wrote: Back on topic I have solved getting letsencrypt certificates accepted by postfix , but not certificates generated by Debian SMTP CA Received: from edge.bronzemail.com (2403-5800-c000-1b7-f3d4-d970-ca28-bf4f.ip6.aussiebb.net [IPv6:2403:5800:c000:1b7:

Re: debian 12 broken login when switching virtual console

2023-03-12 Thread davidson
On Sat, 11 Mar 2023 digital...@gmx.de wrote: Hello, i have installed (alpha 2 release) Debian 12 (with KDE) on two machines So you decided stable was too boring, and chose to install testing. and on both the sddm session crashes when i switch the virtual console. If i am logged in an active

Re: PDF on debian

2023-03-12 Thread Yassine Chaouche
Le 3/9/23 à 15:33, Vincent Lefevre a écrit : it is strange that the choice was to generate PostScript and not PDF. Isn't postscript what printers read? Best, -- yassine -- sysadm +213-779 06 06 23 http://about.me/ychaouche Looking for side gigs.

missing wireless tools

2023-03-12 Thread Rino Mardo
i'm trying to install a minimal debian + kde plasma. started with debian standard iso then move to the firmware iso that includes non-free (my laptop's wifi is there). during install, i was able to configure apt with mirrors and updated the apt cache. however, upon reboot after the install, the wi