Re: ps and AIX field descriptors

Hi. On Fri, Feb 17, 2023 at 07:46:23AM +0100, Andreas Leha wrote: > Now my question: How can I restore the previous behaviour that allowed > other than whitespace separators between fields? diff -purw procps-3.3.17/ps/sortformat.c procps-4.0.2/src/ps/sortformat.c shows me that: @@ -128,2

ps and AIX field descriptors

Hi all, I am facing a strange issue. This command used to work ps -eo '%p|%C' Now, on a debian testing machine only ps -eo '%p %C' works. Running ps -eo '%p|%C' results in this error: error: improper AIX field descriptor ps --version says 'ps from procps-ng 4.0.2' Now my questio

Re: re-compiling package twice errors out

Roberto C. Sánchez writes: > On Thu, Feb 16, 2023 at 10:37:00AM +0100, Andreas Leha wrote: >> >> Dear Tomas, >> >> Thanks for the swift reply! >> >> OK, then I should do `quilt pop -a` before the second compilation, >> right? >> >> But that leads to another error message: >> > > This can be

Re: hard disk installation method fails

On Thu, 16 Feb 2023 23:57:31 -0500 lsg wrote: > https://www.debian.org/releases/stable/amd64/ch04s04.en.html > > to reproduce my problem, you need 3 files: vmlinuz, initrd.gz and > corresponding iso file > > add entry to grub menu, boot it to see if it can locate iso file, > there is no need t

Re: hard disk installation method fails

On 2/16/23 22:10, Charles Curley wrote: You shouldn't need separate vmlinuz and initrd.gz files. You should be able to boot directly to the iso image. Depending on how talented your computer's firmware is, you may have to copy the iso image to sdb, not sdb1. E.g.: dd if=.iso of=/dev/sdX What in

Re: lpr hangs on emojis

On Thu, 16 Feb 2023 21:46:40 -0600 Greg Marks wrote: > Does anyone have a good way of printing text that contains emojis? I took your test.txt file, html-ized it, and looked at it in a browser. I then "printed" it to a PDF file. Both showed the 😊 emoji. I didn't actually print it, but that shoul

lpr hangs on emojis

When trying to print a file that contains emojis with the lpr command, not only do the emojis not print, nothing following the first non-printing emoji prints. (This makes it a hassle to print certain e-mails piped to lpr using mutt.) As a small example, after entering the command: echo -e "H

Re: hard disk installation method fails

On Fri, 17 Feb 2023 05:13:34 +0800 lsg wrote: > this is quite unbelievable, it's most widely-used platform: amd64 > > installer says "No kernel modules found", probably due to kernel > mismatch > > debian-11.6.0-amd64-netinst.iso is at sdb1, vfat partition, i've > checked it with sha256sum > >

Re: snapd vs apt

Stefan writes: > Typically, these are services/applications written in things like > node.js or Go, where it's common practice to use "vendoring" and to > have dependencies that require "the one and only compatible version" > of libraries. Good reasons not to use such applications. -- John Hasler

Re: Flatpak memory usage

On Thu, 16 Feb 2023 17:12:12 -0500 Jeffrey Walton wrote: > On Wed, Feb 15, 2023 at 1:11 AM wrote: > > > > On Tue, Feb 14, 2023 at 10:36:12PM -0500, pa...@quillandmouse.com > > wrote: > > > > [...] > > > > > I find the trend disturbing. If you have a lot of apps running, > > > and they're all the

Re: snapd vs apt

> When both snapd and apt sources are available, which one should I choose > for package installation? Though I found the package versions in snapd are > a bit newer than apt. Snap and friends are technologies which make it easy to package an application without having to pay attention to how it i

Re: snapd vs apt

On Thu, Feb 16, 2023 at 4:56 PM Charles Curley wrote: > > On Fri, 17 Feb 2023 01:48:15 +0800 > winnie hw wrote: > > > When both snapd and apt sources are available, which one should I > > choose for package installation? Though I found the package versions > > in snapd are a bit newer than apt. >

Re: CUPS - how to match autodetected printers to physical ones

On Thu, Feb 16, 2023 at 03:51:47PM -0500, gene heskett wrote: > I hate to ask the obvious, but is the net cable plugged into that printer? See below. On Thu, Feb 16, 2023 at 10:41:33AM -0500, Greg Wooledge wrote: > 4) Also mentioned: port 9100. >For grins, I did "telnet 10.76.172.100 9100" an

Re: Flatpak memory usage

On Wed, Feb 15, 2023 at 1:11 AM wrote: > > On Tue, Feb 14, 2023 at 10:36:12PM -0500, pa...@quillandmouse.com wrote: > > [...] > > > I find the trend disturbing. If you have a lot of apps running, and > > they're all these types of packages, you're going to be using > > considerably more memory [..

Re: snapd vs apt

On Fri, 17 Feb 2023 01:48:15 +0800 winnie hw wrote: > When both snapd and apt sources are available, which one should I > choose for package installation? Though I found the package versions > in snapd are a bit newer than apt. Newer isn't necessarily better. Recall the definition of upgrading:

Re: snapd vs apt

Most versions in snapd are newer than apt. such as ruby, snap install ruby # version 3.2.1, or apt install ruby # version 1:3.0~exp1 Thanks On Fri, Feb 17, 2023 at 4:45 AM Brian wrote: > On Fri 17 Feb 2023 at 01:48:15 +0800, winnie hw wrote: > > > Hi, > > > > When both snapd and apt sources

Re: CUPS - how to match autodetected printers to physical ones

On 2/16/23 16:09, Bob McGowan wrote: On 2/16/23 12:01 PM, Brian wrote: On Thu 16 Feb 2023 at 11:27:25 -0800, Bob McGowan wrote: On 2/16/23 11:14 AM, Brian wrote: On Thu 16 Feb 2023 at 11:52:21 -0500, Stefan Monnier wrote: [1]to...@tuxteam.de [2023-02-16 16:53:02] wrote: Just for kicks

Re: snapd vs apt

On 2/16/23 15:45, Brian wrote: On Fri 17 Feb 2023 at 01:48:15 +0800, winnie hw wrote: Hi, When both snapd and apt sources are available, which one should I choose for package installation? Though I found the package versions in snapd are a bit newer than apt. Newer package versions? You woul

hard disk installation method fails

this is quite unbelievable, it's most widely-used platform: amd64 installer says "No kernel modules found", probably due to kernel mismatch debian-11.6.0-amd64-netinst.iso is at sdb1, vfat partition, i've checked it with sha256sum vmlinuz and initrd.gz are copied from: http://ftp.sunet.se/de

Re: CUPS - how to match autodetected printers to physical ones

On 2/16/23 12:01 PM, Brian wrote: On Thu 16 Feb 2023 at 11:27:25 -0800, Bob McGowan wrote: On 2/16/23 11:14 AM, Brian wrote: On Thu 16 Feb 2023 at 11:52:21 -0500, Stefan Monnier wrote: [1]to...@tuxteam.de [2023-02-16 16:53:02] wrote: Just for kicks: have you tried sending a PS (or *gas

Re: CUPS - how to match autodetected printers to physical ones

On 2/16/23 15:33, Greg Wooledge wrote: On Thu, Feb 16, 2023 at 06:57:46PM +0200, Teemu Likonen wrote: Here is my version which I suggest turning into a shell alias, function or script: avahi-browse -atrp 2>/dev/null | awk -F\; \ '$1 == "=" { printf "%-23s %-26s %5s %s\n",$7,$8,$9,

Re: CUPS - how to match autodetected printers to physical ones

On Thu, Feb 16, 2023 at 06:57:46PM +0200, Teemu Likonen wrote: > Here is my version which I suggest turning into a shell alias, function > or script: > > avahi-browse -atrp 2>/dev/null | awk -F\; \ > '$1 == "=" { printf "%-23s %-26s %5s %s\n",$7,$8,$9,$5 }' > > It should print lines l

Re: CUPS - how to match autodetected printers to physical ones

On Thu 16 Feb 2023 at 11:27:25 -0800, Bob McGowan wrote: >On 2/16/23 11:14 AM, Brian wrote: > > On Thu 16 Feb 2023 at 11:52:21 -0500, Stefan Monnier wrote: > > > [1]to...@tuxteam.de [2023-02-16 16:53:02] wrote: > > Just for kicks: have you tried sending a PS (or *gasp* PDF) file > down tha

Re: CUPS - how to match autodetected printers to physical ones

On 2/16/23 11:14 AM, Brian wrote: On Thu 16 Feb 2023 at 11:52:21 -0500, Stefan Monnier wrote: to...@tuxteam.de [2023-02-16 16:53:02] wrote: Just for kicks: have you tried sending a PS (or *gasp* PDF) file down that alley (e.g. with soc

Re: CUPS - how to match autodetected printers to physical ones

On Thu 16 Feb 2023 at 11:52:21 -0500, Stefan Monnier wrote: > to...@tuxteam.de [2023-02-16 16:53:02] wrote: > > Just for kicks: have you tried sending a PS (or *gasp* PDF) file > > down that alley (e.g. with socat)? > > > > For That One Form in the Year this might be just sufficient... > > > > Hin

Re: snapd vs apt

On Thu, Feb 16, 2023 at 06:57:17PM +0100, Nicolas George wrote: > winnie hw (12023-02-17): > > When both snapd and apt sources are available, which one should I choose > > for package installation? Though I found the package versions in snapd are > > a bit newer than apt. > > See this recent discu

Re: CUPS - how to match autodetected printers to physical ones

On Thu 16 Feb 2023 at 10:41:33 -0500, Greg Wooledge wrote: [...] > 3) Also suggested: driverless >Here's what I get this year: > >wooledg:~$ driverless >ipp://Canon%20LBP712Cdn%20(db%3Ac0%3Ad3)._ipp._tcp.local/ > >That's all. And no, that's not the right printer. That's the on

Re: CUPS - how to match autodetected printers to physical ones

On Thu, Feb 16, 2023 at 11:52:21AM -0500, Stefan Monnier wrote: > to...@tuxteam.de [2023-02-16 16:53:02] wrote: > > Just for kicks: have you tried sending a PS (or *gasp* PDF) file > > down that alley (e.g. with socat)? > > > > For That One Form in the Year this might be just sufficient... > > > >

Re: Flatpak memory usage

On Wed, Feb 15, 2023 at 09:13:06AM +0100, Nicolas George wrote: [...] > > In a distro, applications have to get along with each other, agree > > on a common set of libraries, file system layout, etc. I think this > > is a Good Thing. Every app carrying its own little distro is like > > neoliberal

Re: Flatpak memory usage

On Wed, Feb 15, 2023 at 01:34:11AM -0500, pa...@quillandmouse.com wrote: [...] > I trust Debian to audit and ensure my packages are secure and > interoperable. I don't necessarily trust Canonical or Flathub. That's a very good condensate. That's my take, too. Cheers -- t signature.asc Descri

Re: Flatpak memory usage

On Wed, Feb 15, 2023 at 12:18:45PM -0500, Stefan Monnier wrote: > > I'm not a friend of flatpaks and similar concepts, either. For me, > > it's not memory use, but the shifting of power from a distrubution > > model to single applications. I find that makes software less "free". > > Indeed. These

Re: snapd vs apt

winnie hw (12023-02-17): > When both snapd and apt sources are available, which one should I choose > for package installation? Though I found the package versions in snapd are > a bit newer than apt. See this recent discussion: https://lists.debian.org/debian-user/2023/02/msg00373.html Regards,

snapd vs apt

Hi, When both snapd and apt sources are available, which one should I choose for package installation? Though I found the package versions in snapd are a bit newer than apt. Thanks.

Re: CUPS - how to match autodetected printers to physical ones

* 2023-02-16 10:41:33-0500, Greg Wooledge wrote: > 1) Someone suggested: avahi-discover -r _print-caps._tcp >When I tried it last year, it simply hung with no visible output >until Ctrl-C'ed. Here is my version which I suggest turning into a shell alias, function or script: avahi-bro

Re: CUPS - how to match autodetected printers to physical ones

to...@tuxteam.de [2023-02-16 16:53:02] wrote: > Just for kicks: have you tried sending a PS (or *gasp* PDF) file > down that alley (e.g. with socat)? > > For That One Form in the Year this might be just sufficient... > > Hint: start with a small one :) I don't think "a small one" can be small enou

Re: CUPS - how to match autodetected printers to physical ones

On 2/16/23 08:41, Greg Wooledge wrote: It's tax season again, so once again I am putting myself through the utter hell that is attempting to print my city's Income Tax Forms. (Yes, this is mandatory. No, they do not accept electronic submissions. You must use paper and ink. Yes, they require y

Re: CUPS - how to match autodetected printers to physical ones

On Thu, Feb 16, 2023 at 10:41:33AM -0500, Greg Wooledge wrote: [...] > 4) Also mentioned: port 9100. >For grins, I did "telnet 10.76.172.100 9100" and after that connected >I typed "HELLO WORLD", then pressed Enter, then Ctrl-] q Enter to >close the telnet session. > >That actual

Re: CUPS - how to match autodetected printers to physical ones

It's tax season again, so once again I am putting myself through the utter hell that is attempting to print my city's Income Tax Forms. (Yes, this is mandatory. No, they do not accept electronic submissions. You must use paper and ink. Yes, they require you to print your own forms. No, they wil

Re: Partitioning an SSD?

On Thu, 16 Feb 2023 08:59:58 +0100 Nicolas George wrote: > pa...@quillandmouse.com (12023-02-15): > > Here's why you would partition a drive. Reinstalling (which I end up > > having to do every time Debian comes out with a new version > > Debian is not Ubuntu, major upgrade do not break the sy

Re: Partitioning an SSD?

> Therefore, except for the narrow case of writing into a block which has > never before been written, every write on a SSD *is* an erase+write > operation. No, that would lead to terribly poor performance (both in terms of speed and in terms of wear). >> So: you read the whole block, blank it, t

Re: try to cleanup

On Thu, 16 Feb 2023 09:57:49 +0100 "Maurizio Caloro" wrote: > Hello > > > > i try to cleanup little me Debian 10.13, i thinking that have a zoo > from > > diffrent version from PHP running and in me opinion are same component > > future running, in diffrent version, or ist this normal, you

Re: re-compiling package twice errors out

On Thu, Feb 16, 2023 at 10:37:00AM +0100, Andreas Leha wrote: > > Dear Tomas, > > Thanks for the swift reply! > > OK, then I should do `quilt pop -a` before the second compilation, > right? > > But that leads to another error message: > This can be considered a bug in the package. The idea i

Re: Partitioning an SSD?

The Wanderer (12023-02-16): > That is exactly what I've always been told *does* happen, ever since > first reading about how SSDs et cetera work, more than a decade ago. > This is the first time I've seen a suggestion to the contrary. This is surprising to me, since I have had the exact opposite i

Re: ipv6 maybe has arrived.

Am Tue, Feb 14, 2023 at 01:41:41PM -0500 schrieb gene heskett: Hello Gene and Dave,, > On 2/14/23 10:49, David Wright wrote: > > Wisely done: we don't need it twice … and logs can be lengthy. [...] > Alright guys, I may have an existing system here that shows a 169, but not > as default. Runnin

Re: A newer kernel for my genesi smartbook

Hi, it's been a while. Am 14.06.2018 um 21:52 schrieb Sven Joachim: On 2018-06-13 21:25 +0200, Robert Pommrich wrote: I don't know how to find out, if the hardware is really supported, nor how to build a mainline kernel and integrate it with Uboot. Install the linux-image-mx5 kernel and the

Re: Partitioning an SSD?

On 2023-02-16 at 08:10, Nicolas George wrote: > The Wanderer (12023-02-16): > >> filesystems et cetera aligned to physical blocks, because physical block >> size defines the minimum size that can be erased (and, therefore, >> overwritten) in any given operation, > > This is true. Note: erased, no

Re: Partitioning an SSD?

The Wanderer (12023-02-16): > filesystems et cetera aligned to physical blocks, because physical block > size defines the minimum size that can be erased (and, therefore, > overwritten) in any given operation, This is true. Note: erased, not written. > and th

Re: Partitioning an SSD?

On Thu, Feb 16, 2023 at 02:22:56AM -0500, Felix Miata wrote: What physical boundaries do SSDs have to report? All I know about that are exposed are sector size and sector count. I have yet to find one where logical/physical were not 512B/512B. Don't worry about it; modern partition tools align

Re: Partitioning an SSD?

Am 16.02.2023 um 13:30 schrieb DdB: > Unfortunately, the > data set related to this, i could gather personally is not large > enough to be telling. https://www.servethehome.com/ssd-alignment-quickly-benchmark-ssd/

Re: Partitioning an SSD?

-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA256 Am 16.02.2023 um 13:00 schrieb The Wanderer: > This being the very first time I can remember having encountered > even the suggestion that there's no need to be concerned about > erase-block sizes when dealing with SSDs et cetera, I hope it's > under

Re: Backport Request: Backport openssh-server-9.2p1-2 to bullseye

On Thu, Feb 16, 2023 at 01:56:05PM +0530, jadhav vishwanath wrote: > The ssh timeout functionality was removed in the OpenSSH-server-8.4, Now > this functionality has been fixed(restored) in OpenSSH-server-9.2 (refer > ) released in Debian > boo

Why users uninstall avahi

On 14/02/2023 22:48, David Wright wrote: On Mon 13 Feb 2023 at 11:39:31 (+0100), Christoph Brinkhaus wrote: Today I have deleted almost everything of avahi and xfce4. After a reboot the 169.254.xxx.yyy is no more configured. Yes, and that's a problem for anyone trying to replicate the configu

Re: Partitioning an SSD?

On 2023-02-16 at 05:45, Nicolas George wrote: > DdB (12023-02-16): > >> Am 16.02.2023 um 09:31 schrieb Felix Miata: >> > None of the 25 or so SSDs/NVMEs I have have 4k sectors. e.g. >> >> Wow, they must be rather old, then. ;-) >> >> I know, i am not the only one ... >> https://serverfault.com/q

Re: try to cleanup

On 2023-02-16 at 03:57, Maurizio Caloro wrote: > Hello > > i try to cleanup little me Debian 10.13, i thinking that have a zoo from > diffrent version from PHP running and in me opinion are same component > future running, in diffrent version, or ist this normal, you have this also > on your mac

Upgrades of Debian and Ubuntu

On 16/02/2023 14:59, Nicolas George wrote: Debian is not Ubuntu, major upgrade do not break the system. Perhaps the issue is not Ubuntu per se, but e.g. number of 3rd-party repositories. Ubuntu users may be more frequently affected by suggestions to add a ppa repository. I have heard opinion

Re: Partitioning an SSD?

DdB (12023-02-16): > Am 16.02.2023 um 09:31 schrieb Felix Miata: > > None of the 25 or so SSDs/NVMEs I have have 4k sectors. e.g. > > Wow, they must be rather old, then. ;-) > > I know, i am not the only one ... > https://serverfault.com/questions/1113068/how-to-find-page-size-of-my-ssd Of cours

Re: Partitioning an SSD?

Am 16.02.2023 um 09:31 schrieb Felix Miata: > None of the 25 or so SSDs/NVMEs I have have 4k sectors. e.g. Wow, they must be rather old, then. ;-) I know, i am not the only one ... https://serverfault.com/questions/1113068/how-to-find-page-size-of-my-ssd

Re: re-compiling package twice errors out

writes: > On Thu, Feb 16, 2023 at 10:05:54AM +0100, Andreas Leha wrote: >> Dear all, >> >> I am re-compiling xscreensaver. >> >> Re-compiling once works fine: >> >> apt-get source xscreensaver >> cd xscreensaver-6.0.6+dfsg1 >> LANG=C debuild -us -uc >> >> >> Re-compiling a second

Re: re-compiling package twice errors out

On Thu, Feb 16, 2023 at 10:05:54AM +0100, Andreas Leha wrote: > Dear all, > > I am re-compiling xscreensaver. > > Re-compiling once works fine: > > apt-get source xscreensaver > cd xscreensaver-6.0.6+dfsg1 > LANG=C debuild -us -uc > > > Re-compiling a second time errors out, though

re-compiling package twice errors out

Dear all, I am re-compiling xscreensaver. Re-compiling once works fine: apt-get source xscreensaver cd xscreensaver-6.0.6+dfsg1 LANG=C debuild -us -uc Re-compiling a second time errors out, though: > LANG=C debuild -us -uc (skipped lines) dpkg-source: info: using

try to cleanup

Hello i try to cleanup little me Debian 10.13, i thinking that have a zoo from diffrent version from PHP running and in me opinion are same component future running, in diffrent version, or ist this normal, you have this also on your machine? ->like: common, xml, readline, bcmath, mysql, cl

Backport Request: Backport openssh-server-9.2p1-2 to bullseye

Hi All, The ssh timeout functionality was removed in the OpenSSH-server-8.4, Now this functionality has been fixed(restored) in OpenSSH-server-9.2 (refer ) released in Debian bookworm. The functionality was working properly in Buster and as per

Re: Partitioning an SSD?

DdB composed on 2023-02-16 09:15 (UTC+0100): > Felix Miata wrote: >> What physical boundaries do SSDs have to report? All I know about that are >> exposed >> are sector size and sector count. I have yet to find one where >> logical/physical >> were not 512B/512B. > That is what i meant: nowad

Re: Partitioning an SSD?

Am 16.02.2023 um 08:22 schrieb Felix Miata: > What physical boundaries do SSDs have to report? All I know about that are > exposed > are sector size and sector count. I have yet to find one where > logical/physical > were not 512B/512B. That is what i meant: nowadays SSD's at least are AF Advanc

Re: Partitioning an SSD?

pa...@quillandmouse.com (12023-02-15): > Here's why you would partition a drive. Reinstalling (which I end up > having to do every time Debian comes out with a new version Debian is not Ubuntu, major upgrade do not break the system. -- Nicolas George