Re: multiple messages

2022-12-11 Thread John Conover
Charles Curley writes: > On Sun, 11 Dec 2022 10:59:02 -0800 > David Christensen wrote: > > > Thunderbird message duplication bugs have existed for several years. > > My work-around is to periodically delete older messages and/or delete > > duplicates in Junk, Trash, etc.. > > This is one place

Re: multiple messages

2022-12-11 Thread Charles Curley
On Sun, 11 Dec 2022 10:59:02 -0800 David Christensen wrote: > Thunderbird message duplication bugs have existed for several years. > My work-around is to periodically delete older messages and/or delete > duplicates in Junk, Trash, etc.. This is one place claws-mail would come in handy. It has

Re: multiple messages

2022-12-11 Thread David Wright
On Sun 11 Dec 2022 at 17:52:56 (+), Martin Smith wrote: > I am getting multiple messages, all with the same time and date, has > my thunderbird gone belly up or is anyone else seeing it > > this one I have about 50: Re: e-mail with line in body beginning with "From" > > and this one: 10/12/2

Re: e-mail with line in body beginning with "From"

2022-12-11 Thread David Wright
Threaded to the OP, rather than a private message. On Sun 11 Dec 2022 at 18:56:24 (-0600), Greg Marks wrote: > Dear David, Thanks, but please keep replies on list so others can see solutions or join in with suggestions. Rather than appending a piece of free-standing text to the rest of the email

Re: Bookworm won't route ipv6 requests

2022-12-11 Thread Jason Bigelow
On 2022-12-12 06:26, Georgi Naplatanov wrote: Try to comment or delete the following line: ip6-privacy=2 Kind regards Georgi Unfortunately that hasn't helped: $ host -6 localhost ;; communications error to 2620:0:ccc::2#53: timed out ;; communications error to 2620:0:ccc::2#53: timed out

Re: t-bird vs filters to sort msgs

2022-12-11 Thread Tom Dial
On 12/11/22 10:39, gene heskett wrote: On 12/11/22 10:00, Andrew M.A. Cater wrote: On Sun, Dec 11, 2022 at 09:51:05AM -0500, gene heskett wrote: Greetings all; (Skipping) So as a LinuxCNC supporter, I'm stuck with debian. And debian has made it virtually impossible to install anything

Re: t-bird vs filters to sort msgs

2022-12-11 Thread gene heskett
On 12/11/22 13:28, Andrew M.A. Cater wrote: On Sun, Dec 11, 2022 at 12:39:31PM -0500, gene heskett wrote: On 12/11/22 10:00, Andrew M.A. Cater wrote: On Sun, Dec 11, 2022 at 09:51:05AM -0500, gene heskett wrote: Greetings all; LinuxCNC has gotten much better over the years, but their instal

Re: LF (was Re: CR/LF)

2022-12-11 Thread Jim Popovitch
On Sun, 2022-12-11 at 22:29 +, debian-u...@howorth.org.uk wrote: > > > The important bit of my email was actually the bit you've omitted :) Apologies, I believe it's proper netiquette to trim email posts to the most relevant of parts. It makes it much better for the archive. Here is what t

Re: t-bird vs filters to sort msgs

2022-12-11 Thread gene heskett
On 12/11/22 13:01, Joe wrote: On Sun, 11 Dec 2022 12:39:31 -0500 gene heskett wrote: So I need a WORKING email agent, with or without fetchmail & procmail. And it looks like after 20 years, I am going to have to learn how to use a brand new to me emailer. Neither mutt, nor alpine, has docs f

Re: LF (was Re: CR/LF)

2022-12-11 Thread debian-user
> On Sun, 2022-12-11 at 21:22 +, debian-u...@howorth.org.uk wrote: > > > > You're misunderstanding what Greg's saying, again. He's not saying > > you were given working solutions three times, he's saying you were > > told at least three times that echo without -n will always produce > > a newl

Re: t-bird vs filters to sort msgs

2022-12-11 Thread gene heskett
On 12/11/22 10:10, Gökşin Akdeniz wrote: 11.12.2022 17:51 tarihinde gene heskett yazdı: Greetings all; Nov 22 is the last time that about half my filters stopped working. I have recreated 3 or 4, putting them at the top of filter list displayed, but they don't work either. Probably, filte

Re: LF (was Re: CR/LF)

2022-12-11 Thread Jim Popovitch
On Sun, 2022-12-11 at 21:22 +, debian-u...@howorth.org.uk wrote: > > > You're misunderstanding what Greg's saying, again. He's not saying you > were given working solutions three times, he's saying you were told at > least three times that echo without -n will always produce a newline. I bel

Re: LF (was Re: CR/LF)

2022-12-11 Thread debian-user
> On Sun, 2022-12-11 at 12:48 -0500, Greg Wooledge wrote: > > On Sun, Dec 11, 2022 at 11:48:23AM -0500, Jim Popovitch wrote: > > > On Sun, 2022-12-11 at 08:54 -0500, Greg Wooledge wrote: > > > > On Sun, Dec 11, 2022 at 08:16:35AM +0100, to...@tuxteam.de > > > > wrote: > > > > > That said. Gre

Re: Bookworm won't route ipv6 requests

2022-12-11 Thread Georgi Naplatanov
On 12/11/22 20:12, Jason Bigelow wrote: On 2022-12-12 04:32, Georgi Naplatanov wrote: Hi Jason, how did you configure your Ethernet card - with Network Manager or? Please provide configuration. The above errors means that your system is configured to use DNS server on localhost (IPv6 - ::1)

Re: CR/LF

2022-12-11 Thread tomas
On Sun, Dec 11, 2022 at 02:03:59PM -0500, Jim Popovitch wrote: > > > On Sun, 2022-12-11 at 18:53 +0100, to...@tuxteam.de wrote: > > On Sun, Dec 11, 2022 at 11:48:36AM -0500, Jim Popovitch wrote: > > > Ahh, sorry for using a descriptive acronym that I have used for decades > > > to define an end-

Re: CR/LF

2022-12-11 Thread Jim Popovitch
On Sun, 2022-12-11 at 11:46 -0700, Charles Curley wrote: > On Sun, 11 Dec 2022 11:48:36 -0500 > Jim Popovitch wrote: > > > Ahh, sorry for using a descriptive acronym that I have used for > > decades to define an end-of-line. Whether it's in-fact a CR/LF, or > > just a LF, doesn't really change th

Re: CR/LF

2022-12-11 Thread Jim Popovitch
On Sun, 2022-12-11 at 18:53 +0100, to...@tuxteam.de wrote: > On Sun, Dec 11, 2022 at 11:48:36AM -0500, Jim Popovitch wrote: > > [...] > > > Ahh, sorry for using a descriptive acronym that I have used for decades > > to define an end-of-line. Whether it's in-fact a CR/LF, or just a LF, > > does

Re: LF (was Re: CR/LF)

2022-12-11 Thread Jim Popovitch
On Sun, 2022-12-11 at 12:48 -0500, Greg Wooledge wrote: > On Sun, Dec 11, 2022 at 11:48:23AM -0500, Jim Popovitch wrote: > > On Sun, 2022-12-11 at 08:54 -0500, Greg Wooledge wrote: > > > On Sun, Dec 11, 2022 at 08:16:35AM +0100, to...@tuxteam.de wrote: > > > > That said. Greg, I was also shaken by

Re: t-bird vs filters to sort msgs

2022-12-11 Thread Charles Curley
On Sun, 11 Dec 2022 18:00:31 + Joe wrote: > You might look at Claws-mail. Second the nomination. There is some documentation on the web site. https://www.claws-mail.org -- Does anybody read signatures any more? https://charlescurley.com https://charlescurley.com/blog/

Re: multiple messages

2022-12-11 Thread David Christensen
On 12/11/22 09:52, Martin Smith wrote: I am getting multiple messages, all with the same time and date, has my thunderbird gone belly up or is anyone else seeing it this one I have about 50: Re: e-mail with line in body beginning with "From" and this one:  10/12/2022, 14:49 Re: Monitor traff

Re: CR/LF

2022-12-11 Thread Charles Curley
On Sun, 11 Dec 2022 11:48:36 -0500 Jim Popovitch wrote: > Ahh, sorry for using a descriptive acronym that I have used for > decades to define an end-of-line. Whether it's in-fact a CR/LF, or > just a LF, doesn't really change the original question about the > addition of a end- of-line being inse

Re: t-bird vs filters to sort msgs

2022-12-11 Thread Andrew M.A. Cater
On Sun, Dec 11, 2022 at 12:39:31PM -0500, gene heskett wrote: > On 12/11/22 10:00, Andrew M.A. Cater wrote: > > On Sun, Dec 11, 2022 at 09:51:05AM -0500, gene heskett wrote: > > > Greetings all; > > > > > LinuxCNC has gotten much better over the years, but their installer is still > based on debi

multiple messages

2022-12-11 Thread Martin Smith
I am getting multiple messages, all with the same time and date, has my thunderbird gone belly up or is anyone else seeing it this one I have about 50: Re: e-mail with line in body beginning with "From" and this one: 10/12/2022, 14:49 Re: Monitor traffic on a port -- Martin

Re: Bookworm won't route ipv6 requests

2022-12-11 Thread Jason Bigelow
On 2022-12-12 04:32, Georgi Naplatanov wrote: Hi Jason, how did you configure your Ethernet card - with Network Manager or? Please provide configuration. The above errors means that your system is configured to use DNS server on localhost (IPv6 - ::1) and connection was refused. So this is

Re: t-bird vs filters to sort msgs

2022-12-11 Thread Joe
On Sun, 11 Dec 2022 12:39:31 -0500 gene heskett wrote: > > So I need a WORKING email agent, with or without fetchmail & procmail. > And it looks like after 20 years, I am going to have to learn how to > use a brand new to me emailer. Neither mutt, nor alpine, has docs for > a beginner that aren

Re: CR/LF

2022-12-11 Thread tomas
On Sun, Dec 11, 2022 at 12:53:50PM -0500, Greg Wooledge wrote: [...] > When echo is operating in SysV mode, the \c escape sequence suppresses > the generation of a newline. Woah. I didn't know about that one. Did I say I learn from your postings every time? Thanks -- t signature.asc Descript

Re: CR/LF

2022-12-11 Thread Greg Wooledge
On Sun, Dec 11, 2022 at 06:46:05PM +0100, to...@tuxteam.de wrote: > On Sun, Dec 11, 2022 at 08:54:27AM -0500, Greg Wooledge wrote: > > 3) echo usually, but not always, adds an additional newline character to > >the output. In most cases, this is acceptable, even preferable. But > >when th

Re: CR/LF

2022-12-11 Thread tomas
On Sun, Dec 11, 2022 at 11:48:36AM -0500, Jim Popovitch wrote: [...] > Ahh, sorry for using a descriptive acronym that I have used for decades > to define an end-of-line. Whether it's in-fact a CR/LF, or just a LF, > doesn't really change the original question [...] No, but it confuses the hell

Re: LF (was Re: CR/LF)

2022-12-11 Thread Greg Wooledge
On Sun, Dec 11, 2022 at 11:48:23AM -0500, Jim Popovitch wrote: > On Sun, 2022-12-11 at 08:54 -0500, Greg Wooledge wrote: > > On Sun, Dec 11, 2022 at 08:16:35AM +0100, to...@tuxteam.de wrote: > > > That said. Greg, I was also shaken by your roaring tone. > > > > Yeah, well, he was told the same thi

Re: CR/LF

2022-12-11 Thread tomas
On Sun, Dec 11, 2022 at 08:54:27AM -0500, Greg Wooledge wrote: > On Sun, Dec 11, 2022 at 08:16:35AM +0100, to...@tuxteam.de wrote: > > That said. Greg, I was also shaken by your roaring tone. > > Yeah, well, he was told the same thing, repeatedly, by multiple people, > and somehow he managed to ig

Re: t-bird vs filters to sort msgs

2022-12-11 Thread gene heskett
On 12/11/22 10:00, Andrew M.A. Cater wrote: On Sun, Dec 11, 2022 at 09:51:05AM -0500, gene heskett wrote: Greetings all; Nov 22 is the last time that about half my filters stopped working. I have recreated 3 or 4, putting them at the top of filter list displayed, but they don't work either. Is

Re: Bookworm won't route ipv6 requests

2022-12-11 Thread Georgi Naplatanov
On 12/11/22 14:59, Jason Bigelow wrote: Hello, I've recently started having network issues on Bookworm. I re-installed Debian and re-upgraded to Bookworm while preserving my /home and /boot partitions which solved the issue of being totally unable to connect, but I have since noticed that I a

Re: CR/LF

2022-12-11 Thread Kamil Jońca
Jim Popovitch writes: > Ahh, sorry for using a descriptive acronym that I have used for decades > to define an end-of-line. Whether it's in-fact a CR/LF, or just a LF, > doesn't really change the original question about the addition of a end- For me - changes. I was confused why linux machine ca

Re: Bookworm won't route ipv6 requests

2022-12-11 Thread Jason Bigelow
$ ip route default via 10.0.0.138 dev enp6s0 proto dhcp src 10.0.0.96 metric 100 10.0.0.0/24 dev enp6s0 proto kernel scope link src 10.0.0.96 metric 100 $ ip -6 route ::1 dev lo proto kernel metric 256 pref medium 2001:8003:234d:a600::/64 via fe80::dad7:75ff:fe4d:2452 dev enp6s0 proto ra metric 1

Re: Bookworm won't route ipv6 requests

2022-12-11 Thread Tom Furie
On Sun, Dec 11, 2022 at 11:59:55PM +1100, Jason Bigelow wrote: > $ host 04:92:26:d1:fa:77 That isn't an IP address, it's a MAC address. > $ ip addr > 2: enp6s0: mtu 1500 qdisc fq_codel state > UP group default qlen 1000 >     link/ether 04:92:26:d1:fa:77 brd ff:ff:ff:ff:ff:ff ^

Re: CR/LF

2022-12-11 Thread Jim Popovitch
On Sun, 2022-12-11 at 07:04 -0700, Charles Curley wrote: > On Sat, 10 Dec 2022 23:16:12 -0500 > Jim Popovitch wrote: > > > > There is still no CR. At all. Ever. This is not Microsoft > > > Windows. > > > > Why would you assume Windows is involved? This is about running cmds > > from Deb

Re: LF (was Re: CR/LF)

2022-12-11 Thread Jim Popovitch
On Sun, 2022-12-11 at 08:54 -0500, Greg Wooledge wrote: > On Sun, Dec 11, 2022 at 08:16:35AM +0100, to...@tuxteam.de wrote: > > That said. Greg, I was also shaken by your roaring tone. > > Yeah, well, he was told the same thing, repeatedly, by multiple people, > and somehow he managed to ignore ev

Re: installation partition recommendations

2022-12-11 Thread Max Nikulin
On 11/12/2022 22:01, Semih Ozlem wrote: Basically the menu that offers choices for where to boot the machine appears. If Debian or USB drive is chosen the menu comes back with no progress at all. Directory structure for UEFI boot (sdd4 in your case) depends on whether it is internal disk or

Re: installation partition recommendations

2022-12-11 Thread Andrew M.A. Cater
On Sun, Dec 11, 2022 at 03:01:24PM +, Semih Ozlem wrote: > Hi > > Basically the menu that offers choices for where to boot the machine > appears. If Debian or USB drive is chosen the menu comes back with no > progress at all. > Within the bios secure boot is disabled. > Hi Semih, 1. Check wh

Re: nftables default rules package

2022-12-11 Thread Michel Verdier
Le 11 décembre 2022 Andre Rodier a écrit : > Howerver, IMHO, it would be better to create an empty directory, for instance > /etc/nftables or /etc/mftables/rules, > and to include this directory from /etc/nftables.conf. > > That way, we could place any rules in a directory, which is the way nftab

Re: t-bird vs filters to sort msgs

2022-12-11 Thread gene heskett
On 12/11/22 10:00, Andrew M.A. Cater wrote: On Sun, Dec 11, 2022 at 09:51:05AM -0500, gene heskett wrote: Greetings all; Nov 22 is the last time that about half my filters stopped working. I have recreated 3 or 4, putting them at the top of filter list displayed, but they don't work either. Is

Re: t-bird vs filters to sort msgs

2022-12-11 Thread Gökşin Akdeniz
11.12.2022 17:51 tarihinde gene heskett yazdı: Greetings all; Nov 22 is the last time that about half my filters stopped working. I have recreated 3 or 4, putting them at the top of filter list displayed, but they don't work either. Probably, filters fail due to filter rules does not match

nftables default rules package

2022-12-11 Thread Andre Rodier
Hi, When installing nftables from scratch on debian, it creates an empty (almost) file /etc/nftables.conf. Of course, I had to modify the file to my needs, and I know it is not overwritten by a package update. Howerver, IMHO, it would be better to create an empty directory, for instance /etc

Re: installation partition recommendations

2022-12-11 Thread Semih Ozlem
Hi Basically the menu that offers choices for where to boot the machine appears. If Debian or USB drive is chosen the menu comes back with no progress at all. Within the bios secure boot is disabled. Charles Curley , 11 Ara 2022 Paz, 14:29 tarihinde şunu yazdı: > On Sun, 11 Dec 2022 09:38:42 +00

Re: t-bird vs filters to sort msgs

2022-12-11 Thread Andrew M.A. Cater
On Sun, Dec 11, 2022 at 09:51:05AM -0500, gene heskett wrote: > Greetings all; > > Nov 22 is the last time that about half my filters stopped working. I have > recreated 3 or 4, putting them at the top of filter list displayed, but they > don't work either. > > Is it time to learn a new to me but

t-bird vs filters to sort msgs

2022-12-11 Thread gene heskett
Greetings all; Nov 22 is the last time that about half my filters stopped working. I have recreated 3 or 4, putting them at the top of filter list displayed, but they don't work either. Is it time to learn a new to me but more stable emailer, like alpine or such? The error log claims the mes

Re: installation partition recommendations

2022-12-11 Thread Charles Curley
On Sun, 11 Dec 2022 09:38:42 + Semih Ozlem wrote: > sdd1 is for swap > sdd2 is for boot > sdd4 is for /boot/efi > > sdd1 and sdd4 are fat32 > sdd3 is ext4 One problem I see is that sdd1 should be Linux swap, not fat32. But I doubt that that is your problem. -- Does anybody read signatures

Re: CR/LF

2022-12-11 Thread Greg Wooledge
On Sun, Dec 11, 2022 at 07:04:37AM -0700, Charles Curley wrote: > > Because you originally asked about a CR/LF (carriage return, and line > feed) sequence. That is a Windows end-of-line indicator. Linux indicates > end of line with LF only. Macs, I believe, use CR only. Mac OS 9 and earlier used

Re: CR/LF

2022-12-11 Thread Charles Curley
On Sat, 10 Dec 2022 23:16:12 -0500 Jim Popovitch wrote: > > There is still no CR. At all. Ever. This is not Microsoft > > Windows. > > Why would you assume Windows is involved? This is about running cmds > from Debian 11 to Debian 11. Because you originally asked about a CR/LF (carriage r

Re: CR/LF

2022-12-11 Thread Greg Wooledge
On Sun, Dec 11, 2022 at 08:16:35AM +0100, to...@tuxteam.de wrote: > That said. Greg, I was also shaken by your roaring tone. Yeah, well, he was told the same thing, repeatedly, by multiple people, and somehow he managed to ignore every single instance of it. It's rather frustrating. As a formal

Re: installation partition recommendations

2022-12-11 Thread Andrew M.A. Cater
On Sun, Dec 11, 2022 at 09:38:42AM +, Semih Ozlem wrote: > Hi everyone I am trying to install debian 11 on a 32 gb usb. > I created the following partition table > > sdd 8:48 1 28.7G 0 disk > ├─sdd1 8:49 1 1G 0 part > ├─sdd2 8:50 1 849M 0 part /media/user/NO_LABEL > ├─

Re: installation partition recommendations

2022-12-11 Thread Thomas Schmitt
Hi, Semih Ozlem wrote: > Hi everyone I am trying to install debian 11 on a 32 gb usb. > [...] > the installation finished giving no errors but the system wont boot from > this usb How far does booting get ? - Does EFI offer the USB stick for booting ? - Does GRUB show up but fail to find the inst

Bookworm won't route ipv6 requests

2022-12-11 Thread Jason Bigelow
Hello, I've recently started having network issues on Bookworm. I re-installed Debian and re-upgraded to Bookworm while preserving my /home and /boot partitions which solved the issue of being totally unable to connect, but I have since noticed that I am unable to connected to anything across

Re: Debian failed

2022-12-11 Thread hede
On Sun, 11 Dec 2022 04:51:10 +0100 hw wrote: > And it works like 97% perfectly fine ... That's an oxymoron. > > > Radeon RX 6000 series was released last year. I doubt it was possible to > > use one of these with Red Hat Enterprise Linux ootb in the beginning of > > this year before RHEL 9

Re: nftables transparent proxy for outbound connections on a server

2022-12-11 Thread Christoph Brinkhaus
Am Sun, Dec 11, 2022 at 06:27:53AM + schrieb Andre Rodier: > Good morning, all. Good Morning Andre, > > Is there anyone around to help me to setup a transparent proxy on Debian, > please ? > > I have tinyproxy running on my server, and I would like, with nftables, > to intercept any outboun

installation partition recommendations

2022-12-11 Thread Semih Ozlem
Hi everyone I am trying to install debian 11 on a 32 gb usb. I created the following partition table sdd 8:48 1 28.7G 0 disk ├─sdd1 8:49 1 1G 0 part ├─sdd2 8:50 1 849M 0 part /media/user/NO_LABEL ├─sdd3 8:51 1 26.3G 0 part /media/user/2f83ff73-3bde-4021-99db-d6b61863