Re: tbird AND javamail both broken

2022-11-19 Thread Tom Dial
On 11/19/22 10:09, gene heskett wrote: On 11/19/22 11:45, gene heskett wrote: On 11/19/22 06:45, Gareth Evans wrote: On 19 Nov 2022, at 10:17, Gareth Evans wrote:  On 19 Nov 2022, at 04:08, gene heskett wrote: On 11/18/22 19:05, Gareth Evans wrote: [...] iirc, headers (that is, the

Re: tbird broken

2022-11-19 Thread Max Nikulin
On 19/11/2022 18:59, Kamil Jońca wrote: On 18/11/2022 14:42, Kamil Jońca wrote: user_pref("mailnews.nntp.jsmodule", false); ... But old implementation works, at least for me, while new not. I would say that both implementations have issues and I faced more painful bugs in the older one.

Re: Intel X540-AT2 and Debian: intermittent connection

2022-11-19 Thread David Christensen
On 11/19/22 15:51, hw wrote: On Sat, 2022-11-19 at 13:35 -0800, David Christensen wrote: On 11/19/22 06:50, hw wrote: On Fri, 2022-11-18 at 17:02 -0800, David Christensen wrote: ... I suggest trying a Category 6A factory patch cable at least 2 meters long. I tried it with a 10m cat6 cable

Re: Intel X540-AT2 and Debian: intermittent connection

2022-11-19 Thread hw
On Sat, 2022-11-19 at 13:35 -0800, David Christensen wrote: > On 11/19/22 06:50, hw wrote: > > On Fri, 2022-11-18 at 17:02 -0800, David Christensen wrote: > > > > ... I suggest trying a Category 6A factory patch cable at least 2 meters > > > long. > > > > I tried it with a 10m cat6 cable and the

Re: Intel X540-AT2 and Debian: intermittent connection

2022-11-19 Thread David Christensen
On 11/19/22 13:35, David Christensen wrote: The "Intel ® Ethernet Controller Products 27.7 Release Notes" indicate the "ix" driver is supported and tested on FreeBSD 13 and FreeBSD 12.3 ("Fedora" and "Debian" appear nowhere in that document): https://www.intel.com/content/www/us/en/download/

Re: Intel X540-AT2 and Debian: intermittent connection

2022-11-19 Thread David Christensen
On 11/19/22 06:50, hw wrote: On Fri, 2022-11-18 at 17:02 -0800, David Christensen wrote: ... I suggest trying a Category 6A factory patch cable at least 2 meters long. I tried it with a 10m cat6 cable and the connection was intermittent. It's the same (as in "identical to") cable that works

Re: tbird AND javamail both broken

2022-11-19 Thread Gareth Evans
On Sat 19 Nov 2022, at 20:15, Gareth Evans wrote: [...] > I'm not sure this is a Tb bug, just perhaps a "purist" way of doing > things ... I had assumed no blank line preceding a boundary was required as Tb still processes the boundary without one, but https://www.rfc-editor.org/rfc/rfc2049.ht

Re: tbird broken

2022-11-19 Thread Anssi Saari
gene heskett writes: > And I'll repeat one more time, then I'm done, there is NO html content > in the messages, not even a mimetype boundary for it. Except for this: --=_Part_88_360748977.1668870493425 Content-Type: text/html;charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: base64 > Here is a ver

Re: tbird broken

2022-11-19 Thread gene heskett
On 11/19/22 12:57, Greg Wooledge wrote: On Sat, Nov 19, 2022 at 11:44:49AM -0500, gene heskett wrote: And I'll repeat one more time, then I'm done, there is NO html content in the messages, not even a mimetype boundary for it. How do you reach this conclusion? --=_Part_88_360748977.16688

Re: tbird AND javamail both broken

2022-11-19 Thread Gareth Evans
On Sat 19 Nov 2022, at 17:09, gene heskett [...] >> received from this online seller: [...] Hi Gene, If I copy the message source you posted above, starting from "Return Path:..." and ending at the end of "--=_Part_88_360748977.1668870493425--" then - paste that into a into a text

Re: Intel X540-AT2 and Debian: intermittent connection

2022-11-19 Thread hw
On Fri, 2022-11-18 at 21:27 -0500, Porter Smith wrote: > Userslly it is considered best practice to use nics from a known comparable > vendor for example Intel dual port nics can be found on sites like Amazon or > neerhg for a reasonable amount of $. What do you think I'm using?

Re: tbird broken

2022-11-19 Thread Greg Wooledge
On Sat, Nov 19, 2022 at 11:44:49AM -0500, gene heskett wrote: > And I'll repeat one more time, then I'm done, there is NO html content in > the messages, not even a mimetype boundary for it. How do you reach this conclusion? > --=_Part_88_360748977.1668870493425 > Content-Type: text/plain;cha

Re: general squawk about unattended-upgrade

2022-11-19 Thread gene heskett
On 11/19/22 09:11, Andy Smith wrote: Hello, On Wed, Nov 16, 2022 at 03:55:37PM -0500, gene heskett wrote: At one point long ago WE were masters of our machines, now Leonard thinks he is master of all & WE don't count or care. I am distressed to hear that Lennart Poettering made you install un

Re: tbird AND javamail both broken

2022-11-19 Thread gene heskett
On 11/19/22 11:45, gene heskett wrote: On 11/19/22 06:45, Gareth Evans wrote: On 19 Nov 2022, at 10:17, Gareth Evans wrote:  On 19 Nov 2022, at 04:08, gene heskett wrote: On 11/18/22 19:05, Gareth Evans wrote: [...] iirc, headers (that is, the lot of them) are supposed to be terminate

Re: tbird broken

2022-11-19 Thread gene heskett
On 11/19/22 06:45, Gareth Evans wrote: On 19 Nov 2022, at 10:17, Gareth Evans wrote:  On 19 Nov 2022, at 04:08, gene heskett wrote: On 11/18/22 19:05, Gareth Evans wrote: [...] iirc, headers (that is, the lot of them) are supposed to be terminated by a blank line (double line break) b

Re: FIREFOX is killing the whole PC

2022-11-19 Thread DdB
Am 19.11.2022 um 15:04 schrieb Schwibinger Michael: > Hello > Thank You. > I tried > also with CPU Limit > bute it did catch the whole CPU: > > Where can I delete by terminal the whole cache? > > Regards > Sophie Hello Sophie! I suggest you to relax a bit, otherwise your aggressive attempts to

Re: FIREFOX is killing the whole PC

2022-11-19 Thread Gareth Evans
> On 19 Nov 2022, at 15:44, Gareth Evans wrote: > >  > >>> On 19 Nov 2022, at 15:25, Andrew M.A. Cater wrote: >>> >>> On Sat, Nov 19, 2022 at 09:34:40AM +, Schwibinger Michael wrote: >>> Hello >>> >>> Any idea? >>> >>> What did happen? >>> FF did open a page with bad PC, >>> so it

Re: FIREFOX is killing the whole PC

2022-11-19 Thread Gareth Evans
> On 19 Nov 2022, at 15:25, Andrew M.A. Cater wrote: > > On Sat, Nov 19, 2022 at 09:34:40AM +, Schwibinger Michael wrote: >> Hello >> >> Any idea? >> >> What did happen? >> FF did open a page with bad PC, >> so it needs 5 minutes to open it. >> We killed the tab. >> When we now try to o

btrfs: snapshots of directories?

2022-11-19 Thread hw
Hi, I want to make a snapshot of a directory which resides on a btrfs file system. So I was reading this guide: https://www.linux.com/training-tutorials/how-create-and-manage-btrfs-snapshots-and-rollbacks-linux-part-2/ IIUC it requires that what you want to make a snapshot of must be a subvolu

Re: FIREFOX is killing the whole PC

2022-11-19 Thread Andrew M.A. Cater
On Sat, Nov 19, 2022 at 09:34:40AM +, Schwibinger Michael wrote: > Hello > > Any idea? > > What did happen? > FF did open a page with bad PC, > so it needs 5 minutes to open it. > We killed the tab. > When we now try to open FF > whole PC is blocked. > How can we clean FF > because bad page i

Re: Intel X540-AT2 and Debian: intermittent connection

2022-11-19 Thread hw
On Fri, 2022-11-18 at 17:02 -0800, David Christensen wrote: > On 11/18/22 05:23, hw wrote: > > On Tue, 2022-11-15 at 16:42 -0800, David Christensen wrote: > > > On 11/15/22 07:15, hw wrote: > > > > On Tue, 2022-11-15 at 12:38 +0100, hw wrote: > > > > > On Mon, 2022-11-14 at 13:21 +0100, hw wrote: >

Re: FIREFOX is killing the whole PC

2022-11-19 Thread Curt
On 2022-11-19, Bret Busby wrote: > On 19/11/2022 17:34, Schwibinger Michael wrote: >> Hello >> >> Any idea? >> >> What did happen? >> FF did open a page with bad PC, >> so it needs 5 minutes to open it. >> We killed the tab. >> When we now try to open FF >> whole PC is blocked. >> How can we cle

Re: FIREFOX is killing the whole PC

2022-11-19 Thread Bret Busby
On 19/11/2022 17:34, Schwibinger Michael wrote: Hello Any idea? What did happen? FF did open a page with bad PC, so it needs 5 minutes to open it. We killed the tab. When we now try to open FF whole PC is blocked. How can we clean FF because bad page is in it. Regards Sophie Why is the perso

Re: FIREFOX is killing the whole PC

2022-11-19 Thread Gareth Evans
On Sat 19 Nov 2022, at 13:14, DdB wrote: > Am 19.11.2022 um 10:34 schrieb Schwibinger Michael: >> Hello >> >> Any idea? >> >> What did happen? >> FF did open a page with bad PC, >> so it needs 5 minutes to open it. >> We killed the tab. >> When we now try to open FF >> whole PC is blocked. >> H

networking is getting weirder (Re: Intel X540-AT2 and Debian: intermittent connection)

2022-11-19 Thread hw
On Fri, 2022-11-18 at 16:00 +0100, hw wrote: > On Fri, 2022-11-18 at 09:35 -0500, Jeffrey Walton wrote: > > On Mon, Nov 14, 2022 at 6:25 AM hw wrote: > > > > > > I have an X540-AT2 network card in my backup server and it worked when I > > > was > > > running Fedora on the server. > > > > > > I i

Re: general squawk about unattended-upgrade

2022-11-19 Thread Andy Smith
On Thu, Nov 17, 2022 at 06:45:02AM -0700, Fred wrote: > On 11/16/22 13:55, gene heskett wrote: > > At one point long ago WE were masters of our machines, now Leonard > > thinks he is master of all & WE don't count or care. > > You could change over to Devuan which is Debian without systemd. Agree

Re: general squawk about unattended-upgrade

2022-11-19 Thread Andy Smith
Hello, On Wed, Nov 16, 2022 at 03:55:37PM -0500, gene heskett wrote: > At one point long ago WE were masters of our machines, now Leonard > thinks he is master of all & WE don't count or care. I am distressed to hear that Lennart Poettering made you install unattended-upgrades and configure it in

Re: FIREFOX is killing the whole PC

2022-11-19 Thread DdB
Am 19.11.2022 um 10:34 schrieb Schwibinger Michael: > Hello > > Any idea? > > What did happen? > FF did open a page with bad PC, > so it needs 5 minutes to open it. > We killed the tab. > When we now try to open FF > whole PC is blocked. > How can we clean FF > because bad page is in it. > > Reg

Re: tbird broken

2022-11-19 Thread Gareth Evans
On Sat 19 Nov 2022, at 11:23, gene heskett wrote: [...] > Looks like that is part of the problem. viewing src, the only thing > wrong is: > > --=_Part_191_372484550.1668746343067 > Content-Type: text/plain;charset=UTF-8 > Content-Transfer-Encoding: base64 > > > --=_Part_191_372484550.1668

Re: tbird broken

2022-11-19 Thread Kamil Jońca
Max Nikulin writes: > On 18/11/2022 14:42, Kamil Jońca wrote: >> user_pref("mailnews.nntp.jsmodule", false); >> might help > > Notice that Thunderbird developers are closing bugs related to the old > NNTP implementation marking them WONTFIX. > But old implementation works, at least for me, while

FIREFOX is killing the whole PC

2022-11-19 Thread Schwibinger Michael
Hello Any idea? What did happen? FF did open a page with bad PC, so it needs 5 minutes to open it. We killed the tab. When we now try to open FF whole PC is blocked. How can we clean FF because bad page is in it. Regards Sophie

Re: tbird broken

2022-11-19 Thread Gareth Evans
> On 19 Nov 2022, at 10:17, Gareth Evans wrote: >  > >> On 19 Nov 2022, at 04:08, gene heskett wrote: >> >> On 11/18/22 19:05, Gareth Evans wrote: > [...] >>> iirc, headers (that is, the lot of them) are supposed to be terminated by a >>> blank line (double line break) before message c

Re: tbird broken

2022-11-19 Thread gene heskett
On 11/19/22 05:17, Gareth Evans wrote: On 19 Nov 2022, at 04:08, gene heskett wrote: On 11/18/22 19:05, Gareth Evans wrote: [...] iirc, headers (that is, the lot of them) are supposed to be terminated by a blank line (double line break) before message content/multipart boundaries/blocks

Re: tbird broken

2022-11-19 Thread Max Nikulin
On 18/11/2022 14:42, Kamil Jońca wrote: user_pref("mailnews.nntp.jsmodule", false); might help Notice that Thunderbird developers are closing bugs related to the old NNTP implementation marking them WONTFIX.

Re: tbird broken

2022-11-19 Thread Gareth Evans
> On 19 Nov 2022, at 04:08, gene heskett wrote: > > On 11/18/22 19:05, Gareth Evans wrote: [...] >> iirc, headers (that is, the lot of them) are supposed to be terminated by a >> blank line (double line break) before message content/multipart >> boundaries/blocks begin [...] > You're