Re: Paying Debian contributors (Was Re: Advantages/Disadvantages of Open Source Software)

2022-09-15 Thread Maude Summerside
On 2022-09-15 17:56, Chuck Zmudzinski wrote: > On 9/15/2022 11:46 AM, Andy Smith wrote: >> Hello, >> >> On Wed, Sep 14, 2022 at 10:04:48PM -0400, Chuck Zmudzinski wrote: >>> I am not against giving maintainers like Steve just compensation for the >>> work they do fixing bugs, and by compensation

Re: Paying Debian contributors (Was Re: Advantages/Disadvantages of Open Source Software)

2022-09-15 Thread Chuck Zmudzinski
On 9/15/22 6:29 PM, Lee wrote: > On 9/15/22, Chuck Zmudzinski wrote: > > > > So I have to pay someone lots of money to fix a problem I already know how > > to fix? > > I don't think you really understand my use case very well. > > I surely don't. If you know how to fix whatever why haven't you fi

Re: Advantages/Disadvantages of Open Source Software (Was Re: Package grub-xen-host breaks PV domains with 11.5 point release)

2022-09-15 Thread Chuck Zmudzinski
On 9/15/22 11:45 AM, Maude Summerside wrote: > > On 2022-09-14 23:23, Chuck Zmudzinski wrote: > > On 9/14/2022 11:01 PM, Maude Summerside wrote: > >> > >> On 2022-09-14 21:45, Michael Stone wrote: > >>> On Wed, Sep 14, 2022 at 11:16:00PM +0100, Steve McIntyre wrote: > I'll be brutally honest:

Re: Paying Debian contributors (Was Re: Advantages/Disadvantages of Open Source Software)

2022-09-15 Thread Lee
On 9/15/22, Chuck Zmudzinski wrote: > > So I have to pay someone lots of money to fix a problem I already know how > to fix? > I don't think you really understand my use case very well. I surely don't. If you know how to fix whatever why haven't you fixed it already? Lee

Re: Paying Debian contributors (Was Re: Advantages/Disadvantages of Open Source Software)

2022-09-15 Thread Chuck Zmudzinski
On 9/15/2022 11:46 AM, Andy Smith wrote: > Hello, > > On Wed, Sep 14, 2022 at 10:04:48PM -0400, Chuck Zmudzinski wrote: > > I am not against giving maintainers like Steve just compensation for the > > work they do fixing bugs, and by compensation I mean money. > > It's a very tricky subject to prop

Re: drive controller Q?

2022-09-15 Thread David Christensen
On 9/15/22 10:55, gene heskett wrote: On 9/15/22 12:43, David Christensen wrote: On 9/15/22 05:18, gene heskett wrote: On 9/15/22 03:04, David Christensen wrote: On 9/14/22 20:06, gene heskett wrote: On 9/14/22 19:50, David Christensen wrote: On 9/14/22 11:40, gene heskett wrote: I now hav

Re: systemd: udev coldplug all devices question

2022-09-15 Thread Michael Stone
On Thu, Sep 15, 2022 at 01:30:11AM -0400, Chuck Zmudzinski wrote: bug report to try to fix it, except for the suggestion that a Debian kernel developer made to increase the uevent buffer size in the kernel over a year ago and another suggestion from another Debian maintainer or developer who gave

Re: linux headers and upgrading nvidia driver

2022-09-15 Thread Andrew M.A. Cater
On Thu, Sep 15, 2022 at 10:22:09PM +0800, Bret Busby wrote: > On 15/9/22 21:01, Thomas Anderson wrote: > > First off, I am running Debian 9, Stretch. I know it is old and I should > > upgrade and that is something I want to do. > > > > The primary problem is that I have a lot of important systems

Re: linux headers and upgrading nvidia driver

2022-09-15 Thread Greg Wooledge
On Thu, Sep 15, 2022 at 08:34:05PM +0200, Thomas Anderson wrote: > I tried: sudo apt install linux-headers-$(uname -r) > > says there is some c compiler requirement that is not fulfilled. And, there > are broken packages that are being held back. You probably need build-essential then. > Where i

Re: linux headers and upgrading nvidia driver

2022-09-15 Thread Thomas Anderson
I tried the suggestions mentioned in this thread. I forgot to mention the hardware in question. It is a rather modern GTX 1030 low profile Nvidia card. it is nothing fancy at all, and would not expect to game from it, but that is not what I bought it for. Just wanted more than null graphics. Ov

Re: drive controller Q?

2022-09-15 Thread gene heskett
On 9/15/22 12:43, David Christensen wrote: On 9/15/22 05:18, gene heskett wrote: On 9/15/22 03:04, David Christensen wrote: On 9/14/22 20:06, gene heskett wrote: On 9/14/22 19:50, David Christensen wrote: On 9/14/22 11:40, gene heskett wrote: ... existing software raid10's 4 Samsung 1T's .

Re: drive controller Q?

2022-09-15 Thread David Christensen
On 9/15/22 05:18, gene heskett wrote: On 9/15/22 03:04, David Christensen wrote: On 9/14/22 20:06, gene heskett wrote: On 9/14/22 19:50, David Christensen wrote: On 9/14/22 11:40, gene heskett wrote: ... existing software raid10's 4 Samsung 1T's ... 228G currently used. I currently have

Re: linux headers and upgrading nvidia driver

2022-09-15 Thread Paul Johnson
On Thu, Sep 15, 2022, 09:46 Bret Busby wrote: > My understanding is that, to run Linux, or, any non-MS operating system, > with nvidia graphics, especially, if you have nvidia Optimus, you need > to run Ubuntu Linux. > Have you looked at the Debian wiki? Because the Nvidia pages do correctly sh

Re: linux headers and upgrading nvidia driver

2022-09-15 Thread Anssi Saari
Bret Busby writes: > My understanding is that, to run Linux, or, any non-MS operating > system, with nvidia graphics, especially, if you have nvidia Optimus, > you need to run Ubuntu Linux. Maybe in 2012 that was the case? I have 2016 vintage HP zbook gen3 which worked without issue when I put D

Re: Advantages/Disadvantages of Open Source Software (Was Re: Package grub-xen-host breaks PV domains with 11.5 point release)

2022-09-15 Thread Dan Ritter
Maude Summerside wrote: > > > On 2022-09-14 21:45, Michael Stone wrote: > > On Wed, Sep 14, 2022 at 11:16:00PM +0100, Steve McIntyre wrote: > >> I'll be brutally honest: being accused of "possibly malicious" > >> unwilligness is *not* a great way to convince overstretched volunteers > >> to spen

Re: drive controller Q?

2022-09-15 Thread Andy Smith
Hello, On Thu, Sep 15, 2022 at 11:50:35AM +0100, debian-u...@howorth.org.uk wrote: > > > On 9/14/22 14:55, Dan Ritter wrote: > > (This is definitely the case for mdadm and ZFS, probably less so > > for btrfs, and possibly not at all true for LVM.) > > As long as LVM is over mdadm it doesn't mat

Re: drive controller Q?

2022-09-15 Thread Andy Smith
Hello, On Wed, Sep 14, 2022 at 04:38:35PM -0400, gene heskett wrote: > On 9/14/22 16:03, Dan Ritter wrote: > > The glory of software RAID over SATA3 is that they don't have to > > be on the same controller at all. All the clever systems put > > identifiers on each of the participating drives and y

Re: Should a serious bug have made in into bullseye 11.5?

2022-09-15 Thread songbird
Steve McIntyre wrote: ... > I'm building a new unstable package (2.06-4) right now with Valentin's > patch applied, and once I've uploaded that I'll do a new bullseye > package too. that's great! thank you! :) songbird

Paying Debian contributors (Was Re: Advantages/Disadvantages of Open Source Software)

2022-09-15 Thread Andy Smith
Hello, On Wed, Sep 14, 2022 at 10:04:48PM -0400, Chuck Zmudzinski wrote: > I am not against giving maintainers like Steve just compensation for the > work they do fixing bugs, and by compensation I mean money. It's a very tricky subject to propose to start paying (some?) people in what was always

Re: Advantages/Disadvantages of Open Source Software (Was Re: Package grub-xen-host breaks PV domains with 11.5 point release)

2022-09-15 Thread Maude Summerside
On 2022-09-14 23:23, Chuck Zmudzinski wrote: > On 9/14/2022 11:01 PM, Maude Summerside wrote: >> >> On 2022-09-14 21:45, Michael Stone wrote: >>> On Wed, Sep 14, 2022 at 11:16:00PM +0100, Steve McIntyre wrote: I'll be brutally honest: being accused of "possibly malicious" unwilligness

Re: linux headers and upgrading nvidia driver

2022-09-15 Thread Charles Curley
On Thu, 15 Sep 2022 15:01:24 +0200 Thomas Anderson wrote: > I have tried a couple of > times to upgrade, but all attempts have failed. Thus, why I am still > stick on 9. I don't like it, and still want to upgrade. The only way to upgrade is one major version at a time. In your case, 9 -> 10, t

Re: linux headers and upgrading nvidia driver

2022-09-15 Thread Bret Busby
On 15/9/22 21:01, Thomas Anderson wrote: First off, I am running Debian 9, Stretch. I know it is old and I should upgrade and that is something I want to do. The primary problem is that I have a lot of important systems (email, cloud), and other less important (web host). Simple dist-upgrades

Re: linux headers and upgrading nvidia driver

2022-09-15 Thread Dan Ritter
Thomas Anderson wrote: > The primary problem is that I have a lot of important systems (email, > cloud), and other less important (web host). Simple dist-upgrades have > always broken my mail server, that I was not immediately able to recover > (fortunately, I had made a backup before). I have tri

Re: linux headers and upgrading nvidia driver

2022-09-15 Thread Greg Wooledge
On Thu, Sep 15, 2022 at 03:01:24PM +0200, Thomas Anderson wrote: > How can i find the linux header, to point my driver to? apt-get install linux-headers-$(uname -r)

Re: drive controller Q?

2022-09-15 Thread gene heskett
On 9/15/22 06:53, debian-u...@howorth.org.uk wrote: gene heskett wrote: On 9/14/22 14:55, Dan Ritter wrote: gene heskett wrote: Greetings all; Does anyone have experience with this controller card? https://www.newegg.com/p/14G-04YB-3?Item=9SIB2XHHUE3880 Specifically, whats my chances of

linux headers and upgrading nvidia driver

2022-09-15 Thread Thomas Anderson
First off, I am running Debian 9, Stretch. I know it is old and I should upgrade and that is something I want to do. The primary problem is that I have a lot of important systems (email, cloud), and other less important (web host). Simple dist-upgrades have always broken my mail server, that I

Re: drive controller Q?

2022-09-15 Thread gene heskett
On 9/15/22 03:04, David Christensen wrote: On 9/14/22 20:06, gene heskett wrote: On 9/14/22 19:50, David Christensen wrote: On 9/14/22 11:40, gene heskett wrote: Greetings all; Does anyone have experience with this controller card? https://www.newegg.com/p/14G-04YB-3?Item=9SIB2XHHUE3880

Re: sshd package systemd misconfiguration?

2022-09-15 Thread Greg Wooledge
On Thu, Sep 15, 2022 at 12:02:21PM +0200, Michael wrote: > i recently had problems to reach some of my host with ssh. as it turned out, > it was b/c sshd refused the connection due to a missing /run/sshd directory. > > the logfile entry: > Aug 28 00:10:08 mail sshd[151893]: fatal: Missing privileg

Re: drive controller Q?

2022-09-15 Thread debian-user
> gene heskett wrote: > > On 9/14/22 14:55, Dan Ritter wrote: > > > gene heskett wrote: > > > > Greetings all; > > > > > > > > Does anyone have experience with this controller card? > > > > > > > > https://www.newegg.com/p/14G-04YB-3?Item=9SIB2XHHUE3880 > > > > > > > > Specifically, wha

sshd package systemd misconfiguration?

2022-09-15 Thread Michael
hey, i recently had problems to reach some of my host with ssh. as it turned out, it was b/c sshd refused the connection due to a missing /run/sshd directory. the logfile entry: Aug 28 00:10:08 mail sshd[151893]: fatal: Missing privilege separation directory: /run/sshd so i started digging

Re: Success stories - Number one

2022-09-15 Thread DdB
Am 14.09.2022 um 18:43 schrieb Dan Ritter: > The system you have constructed is a kind of configuration > management tool. Existing tools like this include salt, ansible, > puppet, chef, bcfg, cfengine, and more specialized things like > vagrant Hi Dan! A very kind, even somewhat flattering com

Re: drive controller Q?

2022-09-15 Thread David Christensen
On 9/14/22 20:06, gene heskett wrote: On 9/14/22 19:50, David Christensen wrote: On 9/14/22 11:40, gene heskett wrote: Greetings all; Does anyone have experience with this controller card? https://www.newegg.com/p/14G-04YB-3?Item=9SIB2XHHUE3880 Specifically, whats my chances of moving an