Re: google account say it will no longer deliver email

2022-06-02 Thread Brad Rogers
On Thu, 2 Jun 2022 20:33:54 +0200 (CEST) Felmon Davis wrote: Hello Felmon, >guess Google's still trying to figure out which 3rd-party clients they >dislike. All of them. Expect access from anything other than google's own web interface to go away at some point in the future. -- Regards _

Re: Bash and the PS1 environment variable [was: grep: show matching line from pattern file]

2022-06-02 Thread David Christensen
On 6/2/22 22:50, Will Mengarini wrote: * David Christensen [22-06/02=Th 19:18 -0700]: [...] Now I can almost match your prompt -- there is a dash before 'bash': 2022-06-02 19:05:10 dpchrist@laalaa ~ $ PS1="\\h/${TTY#/dev/} \\s$SHLVL \\w \\A \$?\\\$" laalaa/pts/8 -bash1 ~ 19:08 0$ The dash see

Re: Bash and the PS1 environment variable [was: grep: show matching line from pattern file]

2022-06-02 Thread Will Mengarini
* David Christensen [22-06/02=Th 19:18 -0700]: > [...] > Now I can almost match your prompt -- there is a dash before 'bash': > > 2022-06-02 19:05:10 dpchrist@laalaa ~ > $ PS1="\\h/${TTY#/dev/} \\s$SHLVL \\w \\A \$?\\\$" > laalaa/pts/8 -bash1 ~ 19:08 0$ > > The dash seems to be coming from the '\s

Re: Bash and the PS1 environment variable [was: grep: show matching line from pattern file]

2022-06-02 Thread David Christensen
On 6/2/22 19:25, Greg Wooledge wrote: On Thu, Jun 02, 2022 at 06:01:11PM -0700, David Christensen wrote: This is my PS1. '\u' does not work on all of Debian, FreeBSD, Cygwin, and macOS, so the expansion of ${USER} is inserted between two string literals when .profile runs and sets PS1: 2022-06

Re: (cmake) Could NOT find LibSoup: Found unsuitable version "" ...

2022-06-02 Thread tomas
On Thu, Jun 02, 2022 at 05:04:16PM -0500, Albretch Mueller wrote: > even though I have installed libsoup or probably I should install it > as part of some other package? I couldn't make sense of that problem: > > > https://packages.debian.org/search?suite=bullseye§ion=all&arch=any&searchon=all&

Re: Debian license issue

2022-06-02 Thread John Hasler
Emanuel Berg writes: > OKAY SO THE "DISTRIBUTION" DON'T HAVE A "LICENSE"? The distribution is a collection of pieces of software authored by a wide variety of individuals, groups, and organizations. These authors have published their works under terms which allow Debian or any one else to redistr

Re: Bash and the PS1 environment variable [was: grep: show matching line from pattern file]

2022-06-02 Thread Greg Wooledge
On Thu, Jun 02, 2022 at 06:01:11PM -0700, David Christensen wrote: > This is my PS1. '\u' does not work on all of Debian, FreeBSD, Cygwin, and > macOS, so the expansion of ${USER} is inserted between two string literals > when .profile runs and sets PS1: > > 2022-06-02 17:39:09 dpchrist@laalaa ~

Re: Bash and the PS1 environment variable [was: grep: show matching line from pattern file]

2022-06-02 Thread David Christensen
On 6/2/22 18:35, Will Mengarini wrote: * David Christensen [22-06/02=Th 18:01 -0700]: On 6/2/22 17:12, Will Mengarini wrote: * David Christensen [22-06/02=Th 15:50 -0700]: On 6/2/22 15:13, Will Mengarini wrote: In this transcript, the number before the prompt-ending '$' is $?:

Re: Debian license issue

2022-06-02 Thread David Wright
On Thu 02 Jun 2022 at 21:46:13 (-0400), Stefan Monnier wrote: > Emanuel Berg [2022-06-02 05:21:17] wrote: > > OKAY SO THE "DISTRIBUTION" DON'T HAVE A "LICENSE"? > > Have you tried to search the web for "debian license"? > DDG gives me as first link a document that seems highly relevant, I don't t

Re: Bash and the PS1 environment variable [was: grep: show matching line from pattern file]

2022-06-02 Thread Will Mengarini
* David Christensen [22-06/02=Th 18:01 -0700]: >On 6/2/22 17:12, Will Mengarini wrote: >> * David Christensen [22-06/02=Th 15:50 -0700]: >>> On 6/2/22 15:13, Will Mengarini wrote: > In this transcript, the number before the prompt-ending '$' is $?: d

Bash and the PS1 environment variable [was: grep: show matching line from pattern file]

2022-06-02 Thread David Christensen
On 6/2/22 17:12, Will Mengarini wrote: > * David Christensen [22-06/02=Thu 15:50 -0700]: >> On 6/2/22 15:13, Will Mengarini wrote: >>> In this transcript, the number before the prompt-ending '$' is $?: >>> >>> debian/pts/4 bash3 ~ 14:56 0$perl -e 'open "gweeblefle

Re: grep: show matching line from pattern file

2022-06-02 Thread Will Mengarini
* David Christensen [22-06/02=Thu 15:50 -0700]: > On 6/2/22 15:13, Will Mengarini wrote: >> * Greg Wooledge [22-05/28=Sa 17:11 -0400]: >>> [...] >>> #!/usr/bin/perl >>> use strict; use warnings; >>> [...] >>> open PATS, ">> [...] >> >> You need "or die", not "|| die", because of precedence: what

Re: grep: show matching line from pattern file

2022-06-02 Thread David Christensen
On 6/2/22 15:13, Will Mengarini wrote: * Greg Wooledge [22-05/28=Sa 17:11 -0400]: [...] #!/usr/bin/perl use strict; use warnings; [...] open PATS, " You need "or die", not "|| die", because of precedence: what you coded checks whether " +1 That is a good explanation of a Perl fine point/ go

Re: grep: show matching line from pattern file

2022-06-02 Thread Will Mengarini
* Greg Wooledge [22-05/28=Sa 17:11 -0400]: > [...] > #!/usr/bin/perl > use strict; use warnings; > [...] > open PATS, " [...] You need "or die", not "|| die", because of precedence: what you coded checks whether " perl -le"print unpack '%C*',MENGARINI"

(cmake) Could NOT find LibSoup: Found unsuitable version "" ...

2022-06-02 Thread Albretch Mueller
even though I have installed libsoup or probably I should install it as part of some other package? I couldn't make sense of that problem: https://packages.debian.org/search?suite=bullseye§ion=all&arch=any&searchon=all&keywords=LibSoup Why would that be happening at all? The error log is al

Re: grep: show matching line from pattern file

2022-06-02 Thread Greg Wooledge
On Thu, Jun 02, 2022 at 03:12:23PM -0400, duh wrote: > > > Jim Popovitch wrote on 28/05/2022 21:40: > > > > I have a file of regex patterns and I use grep like so: > > > > > > > > ~$ grep -f patterns.txt /var/log/syslog > > > > > > > > What I'd like to get is a listing of all lines, specifi

Re: grep: show matching line from pattern file

2022-06-02 Thread duh
On 5/29/22 9:44 AM, David Wright wrote: On Sun 29 May 2022 at 15:02:35 (+0200), Jörg-Volker Peetz wrote: Jim Popovitch wrote on 28/05/2022 21:40: Not exactly Debian specific, but hoping that someone here can help. I have a file of regex patterns and I use grep like so: ~$ grep -f patte

Re: google account say it will no longer deliver email

2022-06-02 Thread Felmon Davis
On Thu, 2 Jun 2022, pa...@quillandmouse.com wrote: On Thu, 2 Jun 2022 13:59:45 -0400 rhkra...@gmail.com wrote: My gmail (normally delivered by pop3 to my old version of kmail (on Wheezy) stopped working around 8:30 am this morning. I set up an application specific password this morning, and t

Re: google account say it will no longer deliver email

2022-06-02 Thread paulf
On Thu, 2 Jun 2022 13:59:45 -0400 rhkra...@gmail.com wrote: > On Thursday, June 02, 2022 11:13:14 AM nemo wrote: > > Me too except today it doesn't seem to be working. must test but I > > think I've been shut out, using Alpine with non-secure apps > > switched on. fjd > > My gmail (normally deliv

Re: google account say it will no longer deliver email

2022-06-02 Thread rhkramer
On Thursday, June 02, 2022 11:13:14 AM nemo wrote: > Me too except today it doesn't seem to be working. must test but I think > I've been shut out, using Alpine with non-secure apps switched on. > fjd My gmail (normally delivered by pop3 to my old version of kmail (on Wheezy) stopped working arou

Re: had another crash, reboot usb failed, powerdown reboot usb failed

2022-06-02 Thread gene heskett
On Thursday, 2 June 2022 11:02:10 EDT David Wright wrote: > On Wed 01 Jun 2022 at 19:30:37 (-0400), gene heskett wrote: > > On Wednesday, 1 June 2022 16:34:01 EDT David Wright wrote: > > > On Wed 01 Jun 2022 at 01:23:08 (-0400), gene heskett wrote: > > > > On Wednesday, 1 June 2022 00:58:32 EDT Dav

Re: declarative (config file) way idea of handling the OS by way of the old system

2022-06-02 Thread Andy Smith
Hello, On Thu, Jun 02, 2022 at 02:46:49AM +0200, Emanuel Berg wrote: > Except for people aging and dying I didn't understand any of > this post ... I'm happy to explain any part of it that you were not able to understand, but you'll have to be more specific. I must have been very unclear indeed

Re: SUCESSFUL INSTALL - was [Discovering DHCP hostname during original system installation]

2022-06-02 Thread Curt
On 2022-06-02, David Wright wrote: > >> I still owe David a response to his last post. > > No need. The above clears up the point made in the body of your OP, > and I have nothing more to add on the Subject line, as what I've > already posted pretty much exhausts my knowledge of DHCP. People do u

Re: had another crash, reboot usb failed, powerdown reboot usb failed

2022-06-02 Thread gene heskett
On Thursday, 2 June 2022 10:39:33 EDT gene heskett wrote: > On Thursday, 2 June 2022 04:08:45 EDT Anssi Saari wrote: > > gene heskett writes: > > > Do I have to reset those perms everytime I'm forced to reboot, > > > which > > > is usually in 5 to 10 days. Or is there someplace in > > > /lib/udev/

Re: had another crash, reboot usb failed, powerdown reboot usb failed

2022-06-02 Thread gene heskett
On Thursday, 2 June 2022 10:39:33 EDT gene heskett wrote: > On Thursday, 2 June 2022 04:08:45 EDT Anssi Saari wrote: > > gene heskett writes: > > > Do I have to reset those perms everytime I'm forced to reboot, > > > which > > > is usually in 5 to 10 days. Or is there someplace in > > > /lib/udev/

Re: google account say it will no longer deliver email

2022-06-02 Thread nemo
On Wed, Jun 1, 2022 at 10:24 PM mick crane wrote: > On 2022-06-01 18:04, Brian wrote: > > On Thu 12 May 2022 at 10:08:01 -, Virgo Pärna wrote: > > > >> On Wed, 11 May 2022 20:09:14 +0200, Fero Dali > >> wrote: > >> > Sorry for misunderstanding: it seems that my account will continue to > wor

Re: SUCESSFUL INSTALL - was [Discovering DHCP hostname during original system installation]

2022-06-02 Thread David Wright
On Thu 02 Jun 2022 at 08:53:12 (-0500), Richard Owlett wrote: > On 05/31/2022 08:13 AM, Richard Owlett wrote: > > I'm using firmware-11.3.0-amd64-netinst.iso to install Debian onto > > a Lenovo T510 [Thinkpad]. > > > > I know the netinstaller works on this laptop as I have done a > > successful in

Re: had another crash, reboot usb failed, powerdown reboot usb failed

2022-06-02 Thread David Wright
On Wed 01 Jun 2022 at 19:30:37 (-0400), gene heskett wrote: > On Wednesday, 1 June 2022 16:34:01 EDT David Wright wrote: > > On Wed 01 Jun 2022 at 01:23:08 (-0400), gene heskett wrote: > > > On Wednesday, 1 June 2022 00:58:32 EDT David Wright wrote: > > > > On Wed 01 Jun 2022 at 00:26:27 (-0400), g

Re: had another crash, reboot usb failed, powerdown reboot usb failed

2022-06-02 Thread gene heskett
On Thursday, 2 June 2022 04:08:45 EDT Anssi Saari wrote: > gene heskett writes: > > Do I have to reset those perms everytime I'm forced to reboot, which > > is usually in 5 to 10 days. Or is there someplace in > > /lib/udev/rules.d where I can fix this until the next udev update? > > It seems alm

SUCESSFUL INSTALL - was [Discovering DHCP hostname during original system installation]

2022-06-02 Thread Richard Owlett
On 05/31/2022 08:13 AM, Richard Owlett wrote: I'm using firmware-11.3.0-amd64-netinst.iso to install Debian onto a Lenovo T510 [Thinkpad]. I know the netinstaller works on this laptop as I have done a successful install when within range of of local library's wifi and the installer is success

Re: Debian license issue

2022-06-02 Thread Greg Wooledge
On Thu, Jun 02, 2022 at 05:26:39AM -0400, Dan Ritter wrote: > one might point to the debian installer as the package that > draws the others in, but the debian installer is not actually > required to have a functional, recognizable, and even 'orthodox' > debian system. According to

Re: Debian license issue

2022-06-02 Thread Dan Ritter
Emanuel Berg wrote: > OKAY SO THE "DISTRIBUTION" DON'T HAVE A "LICENSE"? there is no distribution. there are only packages which work together or don't. one might point to the debian installer as the package that draws the others in, but the debian installer is not actually required to have a fu

Re: declarative (config file) way idea of handling the OS by way of the old system

2022-06-02 Thread Dan Ritter
Andy Smith wrote: > On Mon, May 30, 2022 at 08:05:28AM -0400, Dan Ritter wrote: > > For a single user's machine, it's unlikely to be rewarding > > except intellectually. [good arguments snipped] > There have honestly been times in my life where I've had to look at > something set up by someone w

Re: had another crash, reboot usb failed, powerdown reboot usb failed

2022-06-02 Thread Anssi Saari
gene heskett writes: > Do I have to reset those perms everytime I'm forced to reboot, which is > usually in 5 to 10 days. Or is there someplace in /lib/udev/rules.d where > I can fix this until the next udev update? It seems almost certain the permissions for /dev/ttyUSB* won't stick, unless y