Re: google account say it will no longer deliver email

2022-05-12 Thread DdB
I am suffering from Googles changes too. Thunderbird, which i am using a very old version of that is still able to run enigmail for PGP encryption, does not yet support OAuth2. And the more recent release has nothing comparable to enigmail, its support for encryption lacks about everything, i need,

Re: google account say it will no longer deliver email

2022-05-12 Thread tomas
On Thu, May 12, 2022 at 07:23:31PM -0500, Nicholas Geovanis wrote: > On Thu, May 12, 2022 at 6:06 PM Ash Joubert wrote: > ...trimmed... > > > > Two-factor authentication is when you need to confirm your login with an > > SMS message or one-time pad or other second way of authenticating that > >

Re: preseed d-i disable security update

2022-05-12 Thread Tim Ye
On 2022-05-12 20:07+0200, john doe wrote: On 5/11/2022 1:51 PM, Tim Ye wrote: I would ask this question on the 'debian-boot' mailing list. Thank you I'll mail 'debian-boot'.

Re: google account say it will no longer deliver email

2022-05-12 Thread Nicholas Geovanis
On Thu, May 12, 2022 at 6:06 PM Ash Joubert wrote: ...trimmed... > Two-factor authentication is when you need to confirm your login with an > SMS message or one-time pad or other second way of authenticating that > you are who you claim to be. 2FA is popular because users choose weak > passwords

Re: google account say it will no longer deliver email

2022-05-12 Thread tv.debian
Le 13/05/2022 à 01:06, Ash Joubert a écrit : On 13/05/2022 01:23, Fero Dali wrote: BTW as far as I understand OAUTH2 and two factor authentication are the same thing. I might be wrong though. They are not. OAuth2 is a delegated access framework: with OAuth2 for Gmail, you use your Google pass

Re: Debian 9 Xfce intermittent keyboard and mouse erratic behavior or lockup

2022-05-12 Thread David Christensen
On 4/20/22 00:43, David Christensen wrote: I have been experiencing intermittent storms of random keyboard and mouse GUI events over the past year or more: I found my spare mouse last week and swapped out the mouse I have been using for the past few years. The problems went away. The bad mo

Re: Editing the DNS with Network Manager Non Root

2022-05-12 Thread David Christensen
On 5/12/22 07:17, Richmond wrote: David Christensen writes: On 5/11/22 06:55, Richmond wrote: I have a network manager applet on my xfce4 desktop. I am logged in as a non root user, and I can select edit connections and change the IPv4 settings to DHCP address only and then put in a DNS, then

Re: google account say it will no longer deliver email

2022-05-12 Thread Ash Joubert
On 13/05/2022 01:23, Fero Dali wrote: BTW as far as I understand OAUTH2 and two factor authentication are the same thing. I might be wrong though. They are not. OAuth2 is a delegated access framework: with OAuth2 for Gmail, you use your Google password once to authorise Google to give your em

Re: google account say it will no longer deliver email

2022-05-12 Thread Fero Dali
On Thu, May 12, 2022 at 8:08 PM Virgo Pärna wrote: > > Tried rechecking all mails, but did not find that mail. TOTP > based twofactor can be used even without phone app. I made a mistake and replied privately to mick crane and he was very kind and repost that mail to the list: https://lis

Re: preseed d-i disable security update

2022-05-12 Thread john doe
On 5/11/2022 1:51 PM, Tim Ye wrote: Hi, I'm trying to disable security update in a preseed based install, in the preseed file I put:     base-config apt-setup/security-updates boolean false on the 2nd line.  But it doesn't seem to work, security update is still performed during installation.

Re: (suspend && lock screen) vs (lock screen && suspend)

2022-05-12 Thread David Wright
On Thu 12 May 2022 at 17:34:55 (+0100), Ottavio Caruso wrote: > On 12/05/2022 14:31, Greg Wooledge wrote: > > On Thu, May 12, 2022 at 02:06:24PM +0100, Ottavio Caruso wrote: > > > #!/bin/sh > > > systemctl suspend && mate-screensaver-command -l > > > This one seems to work, however I would have th

Re: [SOLVED] Re: One-user system.

2022-05-12 Thread David Wright
On Wed 11 May 2022 at 23:31:41 (-0700), Marc Shapiro wrote: > > On 5/6/22 19:16, John Hasler wrote: > > James H. H. Lampert writes: > > > I started with a TRS-80 Model I myself (and with high school > > > programming classes on an IBM 370/135 at the District Office, with > > > terminals connected

Re: ca-certificates: DST_Root_CA_X3.crt expired, so why is it still included in Bullseye?

2022-05-12 Thread tomas
On Thu, May 12, 2022 at 06:06:41PM +0300, IL Ka wrote: > Hi. > > OSes usually include all CA certificates (even expired). Windows also does > it (I have CA expired in 1999 in win10). > > User should have the ability to distinguish between invalid signatures and > old/expired signatures. > While t

Re: ca-certificates: DST_Root_CA_X3.crt expired, so why is it still included in Bullseye?

2022-05-12 Thread IL Ka
Hi. OSes usually include all CA certificates (even expired). Windows also does it (I have CA expired in 1999 in win10). User should have the ability to distinguish between invalid signatures and old/expired signatures. While the latter is an expected situation, the former is definitely fraud.

ca-certificates: DST_Root_CA_X3.crt expired, so why is it still included in Bullseye?

2022-05-12 Thread Harald Dunkel
Hi folks, apparently /usr/share/ca-certificates/mozilla/DST_Root_CA_X3.crt expired last year: % openssl x509 -in /usr/share/ca-certificates/mozilla/DST_Root_CA_X3.crt -noout -dates notBefore=Sep 30 21:12:19 2000 GMT notAfter=Sep 30 14:01:15 2021 GMT I wonder why it is still included in ca-cer

Re: Installation fails to recognize SSD

2022-05-12 Thread Felmon Davis
On Wed, 11 May 2022, Bruno Schneider wrote: On Tue, May 10, 2022 at 11:18 PM David Christensen wrote: I have Dell Latitude 5400 laptop that I have been experimenting with: 1. Changing CMOS "Settings" -> "System Configuration" -> "SATA Operation" from "RAID On" to "AHCI" allows Debian to see t

Re: Editing the DNS with Network Manager Non Root

2022-05-12 Thread Richmond
David Christensen writes: > On 5/11/22 06:55, Richmond wrote: >> I have a network manager applet on my xfce4 desktop. I am logged in as a >> non root user, and I can select edit connections and change the IPv4 >> settings to DHCP address only and then put in a DNS, then save. If I >> look at /etc

Re: mngtmpaddr IP

2022-05-12 Thread tomas
On Thu, May 12, 2022 at 06:38:53PM +0530, Jevin Gala wrote: > Any help would be appreciated. (Please, don't top post: it confuses the hell of all of us) > On Wed, Mar 30, 2022 at 7:38 PM Jevin Gala wrote: > > > It's already disabled for all and eth0 as well. > > > > On Tue, Mar 29, 2022 at 12:5

DM crashes in Sid

2022-05-12 Thread Mark Allums
Ihave Mate, Gnome Flashback, and XFCE installed.  Today, when starting up, all three will start, then exit with extreme prejudice.  Mate was doing that before, so, being lazy, I switched to XFCE, and didn't try to diagnose and solve and fix. But now all are doing it.  Also, the virtual terminal

Re: google account say it will no longer deliver email

2022-05-12 Thread Greg Wooledge
On Thu, May 12, 2022 at 03:23:25PM +0200, Fero Dali wrote: > BTW as far as I understand OAUTH2 and two factor authentication > are the same thing. I might be wrong though. A quick google search and a skim of one web site tells me that they are not. It also tells me that I'm going to need more tha

Re: (suspend && lock screen) vs (lock screen && suspend)

2022-05-12 Thread Greg Wooledge
On Thu, May 12, 2022 at 02:06:24PM +0100, Ottavio Caruso wrote: > #!/bin/sh > systemctl suspend && mate-screensaver-command -l > This one seems to work, however I would have thought that the logical > sequence would be: > > mate-screensaver-command -l && systemctl suspend > > that is, a) lock

Re: google account say it will no longer deliver email

2022-05-12 Thread Curt
On 2022-05-12, Virgo Pärna wrote: > On Wed, 11 May 2022 20:09:14 +0200, Fero Dali wrote: >> Sorry for misunderstanding: it seems that my account will continue to work >> but >> ability to download mail with POP3 without OAUTH2 will be unavailable. >> > > Actually, even without OAUTH2 it sh

Re: mngtmpaddr IP

2022-05-12 Thread Jevin Gala
Any help would be appreciated. On Wed, Mar 30, 2022 at 7:38 PM Jevin Gala wrote: > It's already disabled for all and eth0 as well. > > On Tue, Mar 29, 2022 at 12:53 PM Jevin Gala wrote: > >> Hi, >> >> I am un-able to find how to disable mngtmpaddr IPv6 IP in Debian 11 in a >> KVM VPS. >> >> /pr

Re: google account say it will no longer deliver email

2022-05-12 Thread Fero Dali
On Thu, May 12, 2022 at 12:08 PM Virgo Pärna wrote: > > Actually, even without OAUTH2 it should be still possible. With > two factor authentication enabled it is possible to generate app > password for use with standard authentication. In my second email in this thread I described why I c

Re: which program can show X/Y position of mouse pointer

2022-05-12 Thread Michael Lange
Hi, On Wed, 11 May 2022 22:34:00 -0400 lou wrote: > > Thank Michael Lange! > > it's what i need, and it works fine in twm I am glad if I could help. Btw, I noticed there is a small bug in the script, there should be an additional line towards the script's end, so that the end of the script l