Re: file born 30 seconds after its creation on ext4 - bug?

2022-04-26 Thread Vincent Lefevre
On 2022-04-26 14:18:58 -0400, Stefan Monnier wrote: > > On an ext4 filesystem, I got a file born 30 seconds after its > > actual creation. Is this a bug? > > I doubt it. > Note that a file's atime/mtime/ctime is a property of the file itself, > whereas "appearing" is defined by when the name you'r

Re: file born 30 seconds after its creation on ext4 - bug?

2022-04-26 Thread Vincent Lefevre
On 2022-04-26 12:47:53 -0500, Nicholas Geovanis wrote: > On Tue, Apr 26, 2022 at 12:37 PM Nicholas Geovanis > wrote: > > > On Tue, Apr 26, 2022 at 8:45 AM Vincent Lefevre > > wrote: > > > >> On an ext4 filesystem, I got a file born 30 seconds after its > >> actual creation. Is this a bug? > >> >

Re: file born 30 seconds after its creation on ext4 - bug?

2022-04-26 Thread Vincent Lefevre
On 2022-04-26 19:01:26 +0200, Thomas Schmitt wrote: > It looks as if the file indeed does not exist when you inquire it. > So if it got created by the script, maybe it was deleted or renamed > shortly afterwards and created again 30 seconds later ? The script doesn't do that. The file is created w

Re: Do I need a new hard drive?

2022-04-26 Thread David Christensen
On 4/26/22 15:04, Charles Curley wrote: On Mon, 25 Apr 2022 14:56:50 -0700 David Christensen wrote: On 4/25/22 07:18, Charles Curley wrote: On Sun, 24 Apr 2022 22:52:15 -0700 David Christensen wrote: Rather than a Live Linux distribution for troubleshooting, I install Debian onto a US

Re: email lacks sender address

2022-04-26 Thread Byung-Hee HWANG
> Both Gmail and yw-1204 > does not break about this matter (verify certificate). Correction: Exactly, i did't see any problems. Because i have been using always self-signed certficate with sSMTP. Sorry for confusing statement. Sincerely, Linux fan Byung-Hee -- ^고맙습니다 _布德天下_ 감사합니다_^))//

Re: email lacks sender address

2022-04-26 Thread Byung-Hee HWANG
Dear Celejar, Celejar writes: > On Tue, 26 Apr 2022 09:42:38 +0900 > 황병희 wrote: > >> Dear Greg, >> >> Greg Wooledge writes: >> >> > (... thanks ...) >> > unicorn:~$ apt-cache show ssmtp >> > [...] >> > Description-en: extremely simple MTA to get mail off the system to >> > a mail hub >> > A

Re: Wifi randomly stops after upgrade

2022-04-26 Thread Marcelo Laia
I found this: https://bugzilla.kernel.org/show_bug.cgi?id=215698 Linux marcelo 5.16.0-6-amd64 #1 SMP PREEMPT Debian 5.16.18-1 (2022-03-29) x86_64 GNU/Linux Network controller: Qualcomm Atheros QCA9565 / AR9565 Wireless Network Adapter (rev 01) Subsystem: Dell Vostro 3470 Kernel driver in use:

Re: Do I need a new hard drive?

2022-04-26 Thread Charles Curley
Update. I had a friend with a power supply checker check the power supply. The +12 volt line is running at 11.5v, barely within spec. Fishy, but livable for the nonce. I had been running Finnix as Debian wouldn't boot. I pulled all the external USB lines except for a 3.5" external floppy disk driv

Re: email lacks sender address

2022-04-26 Thread David Wright
On Tue 26 Apr 2022 at 09:25:48 (-0400), Haines Brown wrote: > On Tue, Apr 26, 2022 at 10:10:48AM +0100, Jonathan Dowland wrote: > > On Mon, Apr 25, 2022 at 11:39:01AM -0400, Haines Brown wrote: > > > I infer that exim is not being given the envelop address of the > > > sender. > > > > Quoting /etc

Re: AW: AW: AW: Here Newbie---Amateur in Linux...Problem: Debian LXDE cannot boot.. Is it destroyed?//Second try Hotmail bug Sorry

2022-04-26 Thread Andrew M.A. Cater
On Tue, Apr 26, 2022 at 01:31:02PM +, Schwibinger Michael wrote: > > Good afternoon. > Thank You > > We dont use WIFI. > > Desktops > > We do > connect with cable to the WWW. > Also mouse and keyboard is with cable. > OK: in many ways that makes it easier. I would still suggest the firmwa

Re: file born 30 seconds after its creation on ext4 - bug?

2022-04-26 Thread Nicholas Geovanis
On Tue, Apr 26, 2022 at 12:37 PM Nicholas Geovanis wrote: > On Tue, Apr 26, 2022 at 8:45 AM Vincent Lefevre > wrote: > >> On an ext4 filesystem, I got a file born 30 seconds after its >> actual creation. Is this a bug? >> > > Only experimentation can really back me up on this, but consider the >

Re: file born 30 seconds after its creation on ext4 - bug?

2022-04-26 Thread Nicholas Geovanis
On Tue, Apr 26, 2022 at 8:45 AM Vincent Lefevre wrote: > On an ext4 filesystem, I got a file born 30 seconds after its > actual creation. Is this a bug? > Only experimentation can really back me up on this, but consider the following: Every time you use the "|" operator or the ";" separator on

Re: file born 30 seconds after its creation on ext4 - bug?

2022-04-26 Thread Thomas Schmitt
Hi, Vincent Lefevre wrote: > This script creates a file mpfrtests.cventin.lip.ens-lyon.fr.out > very early. But the first attempts to look at this file failed: It looks as if the file indeed does not exist when you inquire it. So if it got created by the script, maybe it was deleted or renamed sh

Re: email lacks sender address

2022-04-26 Thread Celejar
On Tue, 26 Apr 2022 09:42:38 +0900 황병희 wrote: > Dear Greg, > > Greg Wooledge writes: > > > (... thanks ...) > > unicorn:~$ apt-cache show ssmtp > > [...] > > Description-en: extremely simple MTA to get mail off the system to a mail > > hub > > A secure, effective and simple way of getting ma

Re: exim4 and oAuth

2022-04-26 Thread Celejar
On Mon, 25 Apr 2022 19:41:29 + (UTC) mike.junk...@att.net wrote: > I recently switch ISPs to Frontier.com and find that my emails aren't > going out due to Frontier's insistence on using oAuth which as far as > I can tell is beyond Exim4's capabilities. > Feel free to contradict me if

Re: email lacks sender address

2022-04-26 Thread Curt
On 2022-04-26, Vincent Lefevre wrote: > On 2022-04-24 23:30:34 -0400, Haines Brown wrote: >> I placed these two lines in ~./muttrc/muttrc >> >> set envelope_from_address=hai...@histomat.net >> set use_envelope_from=hai...@histomat.net >> >> but still get 521 5.5.1 Protocol error om outgoing

Re: Fixed Mate desktop spamming xorg logs - now video jagged

2022-04-26 Thread Johann Klammer
On 04/22/2022 01:50 AM, Jeremy Ardley wrote: > I'm using Mate 1.20. I noticed a continual flood in my /var/log/Xorg.0.log > > modeset(0): Failed to get GBM bo for flip to new front. > > I tracked down the error at > > https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1645553 > > I used more or less t

Re: email lacks sender address

2022-04-26 Thread Vincent Lefevre
On 2022-04-24 23:30:34 -0400, Haines Brown wrote: > I placed these two lines in ~./muttrc/muttrc > > set envelope_from_address=hai...@histomat.net > set use_envelope_from=hai...@histomat.net > > but still get 521 5.5.1 Protocol error om outgoing messages. Note that use_envelope_from is a boo

Re: email lacks sender address

2022-04-26 Thread Vincent Lefevre
On 2022-04-26 09:25:48 -0400, Haines Brown wrote: > What I get out of this is that my MUA (mutt) might generate a message > that lacks a local account name (I assume it is defined by the content > of /etc/mailname, whicn in my case happens to be lenin.histomat.net). No, /etc/mailname is just th

Re: AW: AW: AW: Here Newbie---Amateur in Linux...Problem: Debian LXDE cannot boot.. Is it destroyed?//Second try Hotmail bug Sorry

2022-04-26 Thread Celejar
On Tue, 26 Apr 2022 09:32:23 -0400 Greg Wooledge wrote: ... > Firmware is executable code that runs inside of a device (such as a > network interface) rather than in your CPU. > > Many modern devices require some non-free firmware in order to perform > their duties correctly. This is *especial

Re: AW: AW: AW: Here Newbie---Amateur in Linux...Problem: Debian LXDE cannot boot.. Is it destroyed?//Second try Hotmail bug Sorry

2022-04-26 Thread Greg Wooledge
On Tue, Apr 26, 2022 at 01:41:07PM +, Schwibinger Michael wrote: > What does mean > > firmware is free > firmware is not free? Firmware can be free OR non-free. Firmware for wireless interfaces is ALMOST ALWAYS non-free, because of proprietary secrets that the wireless chip manufacturer is f

Re: Recommendations for a home server running Debian Bullseye (11)?

2022-04-26 Thread Christian Britz
On 2022-04-26 15:28 UTC+0200, Stefan Monnier wrote: > As a Debian user who considers current computer hardware should have a life > expectancy of at least 10 years, my main question w.r.t to those beasts > is what part of the hardware is supported by the vanilla Linux kernel > (since that's gen

AW: AW: AW: AW: Here Newbie---Amateur in Linux...Problem: Debian LXDE cannot boot.. Is it destroyed?//Second try Hotmail bug Sorry

2022-04-26 Thread Schwibinger Michael
Good afternoon. Thank You We dont use WIFI. Desktops We do connect with cable to the WWW. Also mouse and keyboard is with cable. Regards Sophie Von: Andrew M.A. Cater Gesendet: Montag, 25. April 2022 18:26 An: debian-user@lists.debian.org Betreff: Re: AW: A

AW: AW: AW: AW: Here Newbie---Amateur in Linux...Problem: Debian LXDE cannot boot.. Is it destroyed?//Second try Hotmail bug Sorry

2022-04-26 Thread Schwibinger Michael
Good afternoon Thank You. We did the check. 64 is possible. Its a single desktop without connectiions to other PCs. Regards Sophie Von: Hans Gesendet: Montag, 25. April 2022 11:18 An: debian-user@lists.debian.org Betreff: Re: AW: AW: AW: Here Newbie---Amateu

file born 30 seconds after its creation on ext4 - bug?

2022-04-26 Thread Vincent Lefevre
On an ext4 filesystem, I got a file born 30 seconds after its actual creation. Is this a bug? I know that such issues can be observed with NFS, but here this is just a local ext4 filesystem. Here are the details. I started a shell script: cventin:~> ps -p 667828 -o lstart,cmd S

AW: AW: AW: AW: Here Newbie---Amateur in Linux...Problem: Debian LXDE cannot boot.. Is it destroyed?//Second try Hotmail bug Sorry

2022-04-26 Thread Schwibinger Michael
Good afternoon Thank You. What does mean firmware is free firmware is not free? Regards Sophie Von: Greg Wooledge Gesendet: Dienstag, 26. April 2022 13:32 An: debian-user@lists.debian.org Betreff: Re: AW: AW: AW: Here Newbie---Amateur in Linux...Problem: De

AW: AW: AW: AW: Here Newbie---Amateur in Linux...Problem: Debian LXDE cannot boot.. Is it destroyed?//Second try Hotmail bug Sorry

2022-04-26 Thread Schwibinger Michael
Good afternoon Thank You 64 bit is possible. What do we do BURN DVDs with pics GIMP LEAFPAD Claws Firefox Single Desktop. Regards Sophie Von: Andrew M.A. Cater Gesendet: Montag, 25. April 2022 16:59 An: debian-user@lists.debian.org Betreff: Re: AW: AW: AW:

Re: AW: AW: AW: Here Newbie---Amateur in Linux...Problem: Debian LXDE cannot boot.. Is it destroyed?//Second try Hotmail bug Sorry

2022-04-26 Thread Greg Wooledge
On Tue, Apr 26, 2022 at 01:27:39PM +, Schwibinger Michael wrote: > What is firmware? > Do I need it? > Is it dangerous? Firmware is executable code that runs inside of a device (such as a network interface) rather than in your CPU. Many modern devices require some non-free firmware in order t

AW: AW: AW: AW: Here Newbie---Amateur in Linux...Problem: Debian LXDE cannot boot.. Is it destroyed?//Second try Hotmail bug Sorry

2022-04-26 Thread Schwibinger Michael
Good afternoon Thank You. What is firmware? Do I need it? Is it dangerous? Regards Sophie Von: Andrew M.A. Cater Gesendet: Montag, 25. April 2022 17:24 An: debian-user@lists.debian.org Betreff: Re: AW: AW: AW: Here Newbie---Amateur in Linux...Problem: Debian L

Re: email lacks sender address

2022-04-26 Thread Haines Brown
On Tue, Apr 26, 2022 at 10:10:48AM +0100, Jonathan Dowland wrote: > On Mon, Apr 25, 2022 at 11:39:01AM -0400, Haines Brown wrote: > > I infer that exim is not being given the envelop address of the > > sender. > > Quoting /etc/exim4/exim4.conf.template: > > # By default, exim forces a Sender: hea

Re: Recommendations for a home server running Debian Bullseye (11)?

2022-04-26 Thread Christian Britz
On 2022-04-26 10:49 UTC+0200, Jeremy Ardley wrote: > I also use a fanless home server, but it's definitely no slouch. > > My one is a NanoPi M4V2 usingRockchip RK3399 64-bit Dual Core Cortex-A72 + > Quad Core Cortex-A53 It [...] > snappy. It gets 12.47 seconds in the hardinfo n-queens test w

Re: email lacks sender address

2022-04-26 Thread Jonathan Dowland
On Mon, Apr 25, 2022 at 11:39:01AM -0400, Haines Brown wrote: I infer that exim is not being given the envelop address of the sender. Quoting /etc/exim4/exim4.conf.template: # By default, exim forces a Sender: header containing the local # account name at the local host name in all locally sub

Re: Recommendations for a home server running Debian Bullseye (11)?

2022-04-26 Thread Jonathan Dowland
On Mon, Apr 25, 2022 at 10:25:46AM -0500, Tom Browder wrote: I am looking for a commercial grade server (for home use) to replace my remote ones. I am looking at Dell's site and an almost-empty chassis with a low-end Intel, 1 TB SATA, and 8 Gb ECC RAM is in the $800 ball park. It looks very upgr

Re: Recommendations for a home server running Debian Bullseye (11)?

2022-04-26 Thread Jeremy Ardley
On 26/4/22 2:56 pm, Christian Britz wrote: On 2022-04-25 23:58 UTC+0200, Stefan Monnier wrote: That's quite vague. I myself use a BananaPi as home server with good results (for my use case anyway), but I'm pretty sure that it wouldn't cover half the needs of some other people's notion of "ho

"Disabling IRQ #9" - how to check for impact

2022-04-26 Thread Christian Britz
Hello Debianists, some days ago I updated the BIOS of my Lenovo IdeaPad S145-15IIL (had to boot a certain proprietary OS for this). I think since then there is a new error in the kernel log. I never noticed it before. [9.967601] irq 9: nobody cared (try booting with the "irqpoll" option) [

Re: Debian 11 bullseye - will it work on 12th gen core i3-12100?

2022-04-26 Thread Christian Britz
On 2022-04-25 19:16 UTC+0200, Georgi Naplatanov wrote: > Debian 11 was released almost 1 year ago. For new hardware you will need > Debian testing. For Debian 11 (current stable) you'll need second hand > hardware. Or a kernel from backports. There was a discussion on this list recently about